Vid Clips of SFA3 V-ism Character VC's on Youtube

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  • Demon DashDemon Dash Hyper Viper Raccoon! Joined: Posts: 5,880
    Okay, I have a question about resets mid VC into CC... How is it possible to CC after they tech flip? What state does it put them in? I just don't get how it works... Is it an unblockable if they flip? I always assumend you could only CC an arial opponent after a counter hit...
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Thanks Kyokuji for the transcripts,I will try it at home.Happy to know that you also
    use Dhalsim.Me too,but I use the A-ism.Does Dhalsim can setup the CC?I think he
    jump is very slow,maybe too late to keep the combo.Can you give me some info to try?Actually I like Dhalsim very much.Because,nobody can beat him so easy,if always use s.sp.S.sp can block many air attack.And his throw is crazy.And I never
    try when I encounter the CC, can I escape with the "Yoga Escape"?

    Thank You
  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    When you flip, you're invincible, but there's about a millisecond where you're completely vunerable, but you can't block or do anything yet. That's when you need to hit them.
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  • Demon DashDemon Dash Hyper Viper Raccoon! Joined: Posts: 5,880
    Wouldn't that just flip them over though (obviously it doesn't)? How is it possible to CC?
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Really no idea abt it.For I know if want do CC to Dhalsim maybe not easy.For example the V-Ryu CC set up,after red fire ball,hopkick,then CC.But Dhalsim can use the "Yoga Escape" after the hopkick.So,Ryu cannot setup the CC with the J.MP.(Other characters also easy to escape with the hopkick)Is there use C.mp(shadow hit) to setup the Ryu CC is better?
  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    Because counter hits don't reset you immediately, they cause a falling state where the opponent is unable to do anything for a second or two and they bounce them back up.
    Remember that every hit during a VC counts as a counter hit. That's why you can CC FP someone across the screen without them getting reset or just falling right away.

    For Ryu, just cancel the hopkick into his hurricane kick then :uf::mp:.
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  • MiddlekickMiddlekick r.mika stalker Joined: Posts: 604
    Non-VC CC's are not exclusively set-up from counter hits. It is possible to use the knock-down state caused by a post-air recovery hit, for one set-up; or for a more specific, specialized set-up, you can have the opponent's knock-down state begin by catching them with a projectile in mid-air. So long as you're airborne by the time the projectile hits, the opponent will not be able to recover, netting you a CC opportunity. Not very practical, and so far, only seems possible with Charlie, Guile, non-PS2 Dee Jay, Rose (using a Reflect) and M.Bison.
  • Demon DashDemon Dash Hyper Viper Raccoon! Joined: Posts: 5,880
    Ahh, so by simply hitting them out of recovery puts them in the same state a counter hit does?
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  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    Non-VC CC's are not exclusively set-up from counter hits

    Yeah, I realized that like 5 seconds after I posted it, so I edited it. You must've read that shit fast :p
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Hey, I can't download Gen's V-ism video from YouTubeX. Can anyone help me?
  • I.M.X.I.M.X. Joined: Posts: 10
    Absolution 2004 Alpha3 Japan vs UK 5on5

    Players

    Japan
    Daigo Umehara: Beast (Ryu)
    D44Bas (Akuma)
    Kiyo: Best Guy player in Japan (Guy)
    Ino (Zangief)
    RF (Sakura)

    UK
    Richard:IMX (Dhalsim)
    Hollis:Heat wong (Zangief)
    GeeJay (Akuma)
    Damien (ChunLi)
    Chunkis (Akuma)

    Format
    Character change: No
    Ism change: yes
    player order: each player of the guest country play all their 5 matches in a row

    1. RF 1. Richard
    2. Daigo 2. Hollis
    3. Ino 3. GeeJay
    4. Kiyo 4. Damien
    5. D44Bas 5. Chunkis















    Result
    Japan 16 UK 9
  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    Wrong place to post those man.
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  • I.M.X.I.M.X. Joined: Posts: 10
    Wrong place to post those man.

    Sorry my bad. I dont use this site much

    Where is the best place to post these matches?
  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    There's a match video thread in Fighting Game Discussion and it would be fine in the Alpha 3 Q&A topic. Someone posted your vids in the match video topic already though.
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    I'm aware that Juli has a poor defense rating, and her being in X-ISM is also a contributor, but aside from that, could the - possibly maximum - damage settings be the reason why these are so damaging?
  • Xenozip.Xenozip. what a nincowpoop Joined: Posts: 3,942
    Well we see Juli in X-ism, and we see her getting hit out of a Cannon Spike. If it's not those three things combined then yeah I guess it's a damage setting.

    [Edit]: Scratch that, there's no damage bonus for getting hit out of a Cannon Spike, or for crouching. So if those combos are doing more than they should then it's probably a damage setting.

    [Edit1]: Actually I just tested the Ken one and there seems to be only a very small damage increase. Normal damage and 4 sweeps puts the life bar at the tip of the "D" in "Guard", but in their vid the 4th hit puts the life bar in between the A and the R in "Guard".

    I dunno what percentage that is, but whatever.
    Let's play.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Those combos are so damaging, because the executing player in this vid gets a damage boost from having zero life left. (not really zero of course, but not visible like zero life. Just like in this vid.)

    If you have zero life left and perform a Shinkuu Tatsumaki with Ryu it will damage Ken befor the D of guard. If Ryu has zero life left then it will damage Ken between the U and R.

    So normal Shinkuu = 62 damage
    with damage boost= around 75-77 (something like that)

    PS: did not know before the vid, but recognized very quickly. (maybe you'll the damage boost even before having zero life left, but I think you will get the most boost with zero life. (infact 1 pixel left.)
  • SinJulSinJul Tiger Bazooka! Joined: Posts: 291
    Xeno you still got the script for the V-Ism combos you did in the Dan Combo Video?
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  • Xenozip.Xenozip. what a nincowpoop Joined: Posts: 3,942
    Xeno you still got the script for the V-Ism combos you did in the Dan Combo Video?
    His midscreen and corner ones are here

    His Gadou rave should be self explanatory. His CC setup is his corner VC in VC1, then whiff c.SP for the shadow hit. And his midscreen crossup is c.RH, VC1, crossup [j.FK c.FK, FP, c.SP, c.RH, whiff RH] repeat and/or crossup [j.FK, c.FK xx midscreen].

    The other thing I did in the vid was an instant-air activation and quickly canceled into air qcb+SK.
    Let's play.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Hello.
    How did you turn the annoying music off during the fight?
  • CBCB Joined: Posts: 2,840
    excellent v-karin section
  • OMEGA BATTLECATOMEGA BATTLECAT E.M.S. Assassin founder Joined: Posts: 65
    Can someone please help me crouch cancel. I don't really understand how ot do it so I fuck it up constantly. Can someone explain the rule to and then how to do it.
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  • EveryFlowerFlowEveryFlowerFlow You Want Pain? Aegis Reflector Joined: Posts: 3,781
    Can someone please help me crouch cancel. I don't really understand how ot do it so I fuck it up constantly. Can someone explain the rule to and then how to do it.

    http://www.shoryuken.com/features/s000229.shtml



    an easier way to practice it with ryu than the way they mention is close Red fireball, s.roundhouse, then crouch cancel j.MP's.

    just keep doing that till you get it
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  • OMEGA BATTLECATOMEGA BATTLECAT E.M.S. Assassin founder Joined: Posts: 65
    http://www.shoryuken.com/features/s000229.shtml



    an easier way to practice it with ryu than the way they mention is close Red fireball, s.roundhouse, then crouch cancel j.MP's.

    just keep doing that till you get it

    Thank you bro.
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  • CBCB Joined: Posts: 2,840
    will there be a v-ken video netime?, causei would really like to see the 2p crouch cancel combo. I hear it gives more than 50% bar back....why is Ken's j.feirce so beastly?
  • SnoweSnowe Joined: Posts: 45
    Does anyone know Ken's midscreen where he rolls with fireballs? I've only landed it once, twice max :(
  • AYGCSMDAYGCSMD Joined: Posts: 98
    Cammy, Juli, and Sakura transcripts, please.
    LOL "Professional" Gamers.
  • MiddlekickMiddlekick r.mika stalker Joined: Posts: 604
  • Atb_555Atb_555 www.neoempire.com Joined: Posts: 1,538
    Can I get V-Sagats transcripts please.
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  • xqoolexqoole Joined: Posts: 243
    I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but the last combo on the vid is the craziest thing I have ever seen in A3, or maybe any fighting game vid.



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  • Xenozip.Xenozip. what a nincowpoop Joined: Posts: 3,942
    I added some Tech Traps [/url] in response to [url=http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=138322 .
    Let's play.
  • Xenozip.Xenozip. what a nincowpoop Joined: Posts: 3,942
    I threw together another video. Here: .

    Read the description for the video here: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=4318693#post4318693
    Let's play.
  • bushin187bushin187 Joined: Posts: 237
    the rolento vc vid is missing the corner vc

    c.short s.strong s.fierce superjump mp

    this has got to be the hardest vc in a3. It constist entirely out of normals which have to be done very fast

    The only person who i've ever seen doing it is chikyuu.
    lp. mp. fp. fk.
  • thumbs_upthumbs_up Joined: Posts: 125
    Could I get some charlie transcript for those enders....seems like its just jab then jump short?
    also what would his best ender ? And that combo at 00:24 is that crouching fiercexx roundhouse flash kick??
  • MiddlekickMiddlekick r.mika stalker Joined: Posts: 604

    Version 2 is up:
  • NokatoNokato Joined: Posts: 1,662

    It's good to see combo vids (among Xenozip's) that are actually made with the intent to inform, not having horrible music and unnecessary edits that take away from what people want to know and see...how the combos work and what situations they are applicable in.
  • TSTS pbbbbbbt... Joined: Posts: 4,302 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Good stuff!
  • Xenozip.Xenozip. what a nincowpoop Joined: Posts: 3,942
    Nobody likes my midscreen DP loop (spike crossup xN), hehehe.

    Good work middlekick.
    Let's play.
  • MiddlekickMiddlekick r.mika stalker Joined: Posts: 604
    Thanks, guys.


    Xeno: I love the Multi-Cross... It's so bad!

    Actually, it's quite useful. I just suck at doing it well.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Nobody likes my midscreen DP loop (spike crossup xN), hehehe.

    Good work middlekick.

    spacing is hard :[
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