Super Smash Bros. General - Patience and Spacing....or Whine and Moan

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  • Syke1Syke1 Prettyboy Slugfest [Remix] Joined: Posts: 12,449 mod
    I remember seeing that character concept art for the new Smash, I have mixed feelings on Zero Suit Samus's possible return. She's not a clone by any stretch of the imagination, but... another Samus?

    It wouldn't be fair to remove Zero suit and keep sheik
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  • <Insert Name Here><Insert Name Here> No wonder with people like me SRK Marvel is dead Joined: Posts: 7,922
    Syke1 wrote: »
    I remember seeing that character concept art for the new Smash, I have mixed feelings on Zero Suit Samus's possible return. She's not a clone by any stretch of the imagination, but... another Samus?

    It wouldn't be fair to remove Zero suit and keep sheik
    If they do something with Samus and Zero Suit where you can freely switch between them like Zelda/Sheik then I'd like that. I'm not that big of a fan of Zero Suit essentially being her own separate character, though. I won't be upset if she comes back, though.
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    I laughed at "great first party lineup." Good joke.
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    I just realized, your avatar (the main guy from the wonderful 101) looks like Gerome from Fire Emblem: Awakening. Probably because of the mask. :P

    Speaking of which...perhaps he could be a newcomer? Not sure how he'd work though...
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  • specsspecs Excuse me, princess! Joined: Posts: 6,380 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    So apparently Sakurai confirms no tripping.

    The only source I see for this is Kotaku, though, and Kotaku is about as valid a source as Nintendo is a valid producer of a great first party lineup. Can anyone confirm with a much better, more reliable source?
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  • The MartianThe Martian A Terrible Fate. Joined: Posts: 11,867
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    If they do something with Samus and Zero Suit where you can freely switch between them like Zelda/Sheik then I'd like that. I'm not that big of a fan of Zero Suit essentially being her own separate character, though. I won't be upset if she comes back, though.

    I don't see any reason as to why they should remove Zero Suit Samus. Why exactly shouldn't she be in the game...?

    Also, you know you could switch from Samus to Zero Suit mid-battle in Brawl...right? It could even be argued that switching back and forth was a big part of her playstyle, and knowing how to play both of them well took some skill and made her a lot more dynamic.
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  • Combo_KnightCombo_Knight DashUppah, Muhfuqqah! Joined: Posts: 5,313
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    If they do something with Samus and Zero Suit where you can freely switch between them like Zelda/Sheik then I'd like that. I'm not that big of a fan of Zero Suit essentially being her own separate character, though. I won't be upset if she comes back, though.

    I don't see any reason as to why they should remove Zero Suit Samus. Why exactly shouldn't she be in the game...?

    Because Wii Fit stole dat backflip, lol just kidding.
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    If they do something with Samus and Zero Suit where you can freely switch between them like Zelda/Sheik then I'd like that. I'm not that big of a fan of Zero Suit essentially being her own separate character, though. I won't be upset if she comes back, though.

    Also, you know you could switch from Samus to Zero Suit mid-battle in Brawl...right? It could even be argued that switching back and forth was a big part of her playstyle, and knowing how to play both of them well took some skill and made her a lot more dynamic.

    Argued how? Samus is TERRIBLE in brawl compared to Zero suit, you're better off hitting up the zero suit from the start and racking up early damage with 25 percent a peice.
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    I personally think this thread should be in the FG section but I guess SRK still wants to ignore the smash fgc.

    Anyways I like the new additions but the speed looked awefully slow like brawl, not to mention the hit stun wasnt quite melee level. I hope nintendo can pull their act together this time cause id hate another terrible game like brawl.
  • UnSaxon51UnSaxon51 PUT ME IN YOUR DAMN CROSSOVER GAME OR ELSE Joined: Posts: 3,782
    specs wrote: »
    So apparently Sakurai confirms no tripping.

    The only source I see for this is Kotaku, though, and Kotaku is about as valid a source as Nintendo is a valid producer of a great first party lineup. Can anyone confirm with a much better, more reliable source?

    Jeez, why so bitter, man? Nintendo is THE company for first party games. You can complain about their third party support all you want but in-house games have always been their strongest area.
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    If they do something with Samus and Zero Suit where you can freely switch between them like Zelda/Sheik then I'd like that. I'm not that big of a fan of Zero Suit essentially being her own separate character, though. I won't be upset if she comes back, though.

    I don't see any reason as to why they should remove Zero Suit Samus. Why exactly shouldn't she be in the game...?

    Also, you know you could switch from Samus to Zero Suit mid-battle in Brawl...right? It could even be argued that switching back and forth was a big part of her playstyle, and knowing how to play both of them well took some skill and made her a lot more dynamic.

    It could be argued, but it would be a very tough sell. About the only things regular Samus does better than ZS are ranged combat and recovery, and that's only because tethers were so bad.
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  • The MartianThe Martian A Terrible Fate. Joined: Posts: 11,867
    Argued how? Samus is TERRIBLE in brawl compared to Zero suit, you're better off hitting up the zero suit from the start and racking up early damage with 25 percent a peice.

    Samus is a lot harder to K.O since she weighs a lot more than Zero Suit. Also has a lot more DI and her moveset completely changes, so you're therefore presented with different options.
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  • Combo_KnightCombo_Knight DashUppah, Muhfuqqah! Joined: Posts: 5,313
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    Argued how? Samus is TERRIBLE in brawl compared to Zero suit, you're better off hitting up the zero suit from the start and racking up early damage with 25 percent a peice.

    Samus is a lot harder to K.O since she weighs a lot more than Zero Suit. Also has a lot more DI and her moveset completely changes, so you're therefore presented with different options.

    Does it matter really when the MU's as you climb up the tiers just flail out of favor?

    I mean getting 0-to death by dedede aint the most gracefull way to go out. ZSS got better normals and much better air game and a better set of MU's if I recall correctly. Samus's moveset is hella weak and doesn't even do the big girl damage it should and air dodging has rendered charged shot nigh obsolete. both had pretty bad grabs. Samus has better recovery, but again there were plenty of players who could get back to that stage when the chips where on the table.


    IMO picking samus over zero samus was if you just had a point to prove.
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    Does it matter really when the MU's as you climb up the tiers just flail out of favor?

    I mean getting 0-to death by dedede aint the most gracefull way to go out. ZSS got better normals and much better air game and a better set of MU's if I recall correctly. Samus's moveset is hella weak and doesn't even do the big girl damage it should and air dodging has rendered charged shot nigh obsolete. both had pretty bad grabs. Samus has better recovery, but again there were plenty of players who could get back to that stage when the chips where on the table.


    IMO picking samus over zero samus was if you just had a point to prove.

    At least it seems Samus is a bit more buffed. Her forward smash seems a LOT faster now. I'm sure they'll tweak the rest of her moves as well.

    Link's spin attack seems a lot better too, around Melee levels if not better. It was a great kill move in Melee, but practically useless in Brawl.

    Granted, the knockback on the spin attack in the trailer may have just been done on a character with a high damage percentage for "hype" purposes, but I hope not.
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  • UnSaxon51UnSaxon51 PUT ME IN YOUR DAMN CROSSOVER GAME OR ELSE Joined: Posts: 3,782
    Rik000 wrote: »
    I personally think this thread should be in the FG section but I guess SRK still wants to ignore the smash fgc.

    Anyways I like the new additions but the speed looked awefully slow like brawl, not to mention the hit stun wasnt quite melee level. I hope nintendo can pull their act together this time cause id hate another terrible game like brawl.

    Regarding first part, see OP.

    As to the second part, I personally had way more fun in Brawl than Melee. So many characters and stages; new game mechanics like gliding and footstool; SMASH BALLS. It is a blast to play, and in that sense it is an amazing game.
    With that said, though, it's a miserable competitive fighter, inferior to Melee in pretty much every way. So I guess it depends on what you were looking for.
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    Darksakul wrote: »
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    And there already cosplay of the Wii Fit Trainer
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    you call THAT fit? I guess it's ok for a cosplay no one cared about or even did til tuesday.

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  • Amazing FunbagsAmazing Funbags The J-Cup Lover Joined: Posts: 17,712
    Jesus chirst! Her eyes! D:

    Also nobody is talking that Bowser got buffed but whatever.
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  • PterodactylPterodactyl Highly Erotic Joined: Posts: 7,149
    I Seriously hope the villager will be OP.
    spread'em
  • UnSaxon51UnSaxon51 PUT ME IN YOUR DAMN CROSSOVER GAME OR ELSE Joined: Posts: 3,782
    My first reaction to hearing about Bowser's changes:

    DON'T TELL GIMPYFISH.
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    Jesus chirst! Her eyes! D:

    Also nobody is talking that Bowser got buffed but whatever.

    buff...How?
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  • Amazing FunbagsAmazing Funbags The J-Cup Lover Joined: Posts: 17,712
    There was a video on eventhubs with Sakurai. He demo'd Villager and Megaman
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  • Combo_KnightCombo_Knight DashUppah, Muhfuqqah! Joined: Posts: 5,313
    There was a video on eventhubs with Sakurai. He demo'd Villager and Megaman

    Well, assuming that I'm in a car to virgina beach and my phone is a blackberry, with only 10 percent battery left, Would you or anyone mind breaking down changes on the surface level?
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    There was a video on eventhubs with Sakurai. He demo'd Villager and Megaman

    Well, assuming that I'm in a car to virgina beach and my phone is a blackberry, with only 10 percent battery left, Would you or anyone mind breaking down changes on the surface level?

    Just watch this:
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    Maybe Bowser has super armor? They really need to do something about the heavy characters like King DeeDee, Kong and Bowser. They just felt like big ass targets half the time.
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    There was a video on eventhubs with Sakurai. He demo'd Villager and Megaman

    Well, assuming that I'm in a car to virgina beach and my phone is a blackberry, with only 10 percent battery left, Would you or anyone mind breaking down changes on the surface level?

    -Isn't hunched over
    -Actually runs
    -Has a few new normals

    Found the vid:
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  • UnSaxon51UnSaxon51 PUT ME IN YOUR DAMN CROSSOVER GAME OR ELSE Joined: Posts: 3,782
    Confirmed changes to Bowser (@ 0:50 in the video above):
    ~ He stands more upright instead of hunched over.
    ~ He has an actual run now instead of the skid movement.
    ~ Seems much faster in general.
    ~ Has three new moves.
    > Dash attack is now a running kick
    > Air attack where he spins with his arms and legs outstretched (possible new Nair)
    > A drop kick attack (possible new f-tilt or d-tilt)
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    Villagers reflect seems too op.
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  • <Insert Name Here><Insert Name Here> No wonder with people like me SRK Marvel is dead Joined: Posts: 7,922
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    If they do something with Samus and Zero Suit where you can freely switch between them like Zelda/Sheik then I'd like that. I'm not that big of a fan of Zero Suit essentially being her own separate character, though. I won't be upset if she comes back, though.

    I don't see any reason as to why they should remove Zero Suit Samus. Why exactly shouldn't she be in the game...?
    I'm not hellbent on seeing her leave, I'd just prefer someone else.
    Also, you know you could switch from Samus to Zero Suit mid-battle in Brawl...right?
    I meant switching freely between the two. Having to catch the Smash Ball isn't what I had in mind.
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    I'm not really liking what i'm seeing for Bowser.

    The thing I loved about Bowser was that serious feeling of weight, like i'm fighting with a scaly sack of bricks or something.


    These buffs looks alright, I really just hope they buff that fire breath of his, it was too situational to be useful in previous games, at least in my opinion.
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    Seriously hope the campaign has a megaman 2 like stage for the hardness and anger
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    specs wrote: »
    So apparently Sakurai confirms no tripping.

    The only source I see for this is Kotaku, though, and Kotaku is about as valid a source as Nintendo is a valid producer of a great first party lineup. Can anyone confirm with a much better, more reliable source?

    Haha, I see what you did there.
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  • Amazing FunbagsAmazing Funbags The J-Cup Lover Joined: Posts: 17,712
    I'm not really liking what i'm seeing for Bowser.

    The thing I loved about Bowser was that serious feeling of weight, like i'm fighting with a scaly sack of bricks or something.


    These buffs looks alright, I really just hope they buff that fire breath of his, it was too situational to be useful in previous games, at least in my opinion.

    He probably is still the heaviest character in the game. He just won't look silly when he runs.
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    The wii fit trainer and villager are complete BS lol.

    Game companies spend millions hiring artist,character designers, voice actors and writers all in a effort to create the "next big character"and often time their efforts goto waste. Yet here we have 2 of the most generic looking characters that took less then a minute to develop and somehow they've blown up all over fan fics, tumblers, mems, blogs, community forums, gender discussion and even porn.....when did laziness suddenly become awarded?
  • JoshkazJoshkaz Princess Luna is my Waifu Joined: Posts: 15,009
    Companies actually pay millions for the generic buff bald guy?
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    I realized the wifit chick is a very neutral color and considering her color swaps. She might blend in most stages when the camera pans out.
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    Rik000 wrote: »
    The wii fit trainer and villager are complete BS lol.

    Game companies spend millions hiring artist,character designers, voice actors and writers all in a effort to create the "next big character"and often time their efforts goto waste. Yet here we have 2 of the most generic looking characters that took less then a minute to develop and somehow they've blown up all over fan fics, tumblers, mems, blogs, community forums, gender discussion and even porn.....when did laziness suddenly become awarded?

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  • UnSaxon51UnSaxon51 PUT ME IN YOUR DAMN CROSSOVER GAME OR ELSE Joined: Posts: 3,782
    dab00g wrote: »
    Seriously hope the campaign has a megaman 2 like stage for the hardness and anger

    I don't know about stages yet, but if the end of the Mega Man trailer suggests anything, we're looking at a Yellow Devil boss somewhere. YESSSSSSSSSSSS.
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    I also spotted a Fire Emblem Arena-like stage in the some of the pictures on the main site. Also, we need a Mt. Silver stage featuring Trainer Red tossing his Pokemon into the battle occasionally.
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