ST player interview with Chun-Li master, Otochun

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http://www.strevival.com/interviews/otochun

Special thanks to Philcito for conducting the interview and Toru for translation.
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  • delatroydelatroy My Blue Boat Joined: Posts: 293
    edited June 2013
    Thanks kuro!
    I play mostly online during the weekdays. I go to Nagase Autobahn on Saturdays.

    HDR I guess?
  • oldschool_BRoldschool_BR Projectile spammer Joined: Posts: 2,442
    Yes!!!
  • EmilEmil Joined: Posts: 4,389
    What i don't like about this interview is that there were some responses from Otochun that could have used more elaboration but the interviewer just moved on...for instance, I would have liked some elaboration on:
    Question: Which brings me to, what was your most heart-breaking loss?

    Otochun: There was a time when I felt a lot of pressure from another player, rather than from the match itself. I couldn’t play well and still regret it.

    Question: Do you feel it’s more effective to have one main character, or learn a few characters to handle various matchups?

    Otochun: I think it’s best to know and play with one character. I think it’s great to be able to master so many characters, but it’s not something to admire.

    Why not worth admiration?
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  • DNGR S PAPERCUTDNGR S PAPERCUT Joined: Posts: 1,608
    Japanese love character specialist that stick with their character through thick and thin. Kusumundo has been playing with Honda from SF2 all the way till Super Turbo. They love that kind of dedication.
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  • CUTWESTCUTWEST There is no rivalry. =( Joined: Posts: 1,778
    My IDOL!
  • EmilEmil Joined: Posts: 4,389
    Japanese love character specialist that stick with their character through thick and thin. Kusumundo has been playing with Honda from SF2 all the way till Super Turbo. They love that kind of dedication.

    Yes I understand this and in fact, I agree with it (it's my kind of mentality as well). However, if someone is a master of many characters, I don't see why that's something not worth admiring.
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  • oldschool_BRoldschool_BR Projectile spammer Joined: Posts: 2,442
    As for HDR, YuuVega stated Boxer was "still bullshit", and Otochun believes Dhalsim wasn't weakened - which is true in most senses. He does have shorter range on noggies and doesn't kill Guile for free, but the main issue is how boss-like his close normals are. As Dhalsim, you can just spam close crouching normals and most characters can't do much about it unless they have pixel-perfect positioning. Which, sometimes, is not even possible since walking does not move you a single pixel towards each frame.

    As I understand, mastering many characters demands dedication and can make it funnier to play, but when it comes down to tournament play, you are inevitably led to top-tier characters, since those have 1) more favorable match-ups and 2) the most favorable ones. For instance, the moment one picks Dhalsim, it's already expected that a certain character is about to come out and counter him.
  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,722
    I think for many Japanese players, it's a simple matter of sticking with your favored character through good matches and bad matches. I doubt very many players can say that they've mastered several characters to such a high degree as what we're seeing in upper echelon levels of play. Even the very best players, who have been playing the game since it first came out, might only master 1-3 characters max, and this is such an extreme minute percentage compared to the whole community who play the game. I think he's trying to relate the idea that it shows poor mental fortitude to run to one of your better characters in order to gain a favorable match for you. I believe Kusumondo shared a similar sentiment.

    Personally, I subscribe to the play to win mentality. If you feel that you can play another character and get a win over your opponent, do it. Think of it as testing your opponent's ability to win matchups they don't know as well.
  • blufangblufang Devour! Joined: Posts: 4,487
    I find it honorable to stick to one character, the one that fits you. Not picking top tiers just to win, or counterpicking cause you have a disadvantaged match up. It is very impressive when one sticks with a character through thick and thin, even from game to game and wins. It is probably much more satisfying as well.




  • mrdhalsimmrdhalsim Joined: Posts: 378
    Awesome work guys- I know how long and laborious the process of doing that can be. Philcito and Toru, since you already have it, how about posting the Japanese version? I can help spread the word.
  • oldschool_BRoldschool_BR Projectile spammer Joined: Posts: 2,442
    mrdhalsim wrote: »
    Awesome work guys- I know how long and laborious the process of doing that can be. Philcito and Toru, since you already have it, how about posting the Japanese version? I can help spread the word.
    This seems an awesome idea. They probably have more active players than the rest of the world, so this could bring many more readers to the STR website. Several good things may come from this.
  • OilforthewinOilforthewin BETTER RED THAN DEAD. Joined: Posts: 1,847
    edited June 2013
    Great interview, I have to say and also thanks for including my question(the last one) and also thanks for marking it as silly,lol, but actually it was indeed silly.
    Post edited by Oilforthewin on
    "LAST WEEK ON MONDAY NIGHT NITRO, EVERYBODY SEE THE MOST HORRIFIC INJURY IN THE HISTORY OF DIS SPORTS, AND I GOT LISTEN TO YOU TWO IDIOTS SAYIN IT'S A FREAK ACCIDENT! WELL WHAT HAPPEN IS SID VICIOUS RAN INTO THE FREAK. SEE SID VICIOUS CAME OFF THE TOP ROPE, HE HIT DA MASSIVE CHEST OF THE GENETIC FREAK, AND HE FELT DA POWER, AND DAT POWER, SENT HIS LEG DOWN TO THE MAT, SHATTERED HIS LEG, AND HIS DREAMS, OF EVER BECOMIN' WORLD CHAMPYEN AGAIN! SO SID VICIOUS, I'M SEND YOU A PRESENT! I'M SEND YOU THESE TWO PRO- JABRONIES TO LAY NEXT TO YOU IN Y'ALL CAN TALK ABOUT THE SAME THING! YA CAN TALK ABOUT ME, DA MAN WHO SENT CHOO THERE! BUT SID VICIOUS, I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR YOU, BECAUSE I GAVE YOU FAIR WARNING, TO WALK AWAY! JUST LIKE I WARNED STING, JUST LIKE I WARNED BOOKER T, AND NOW, KEVIN NASH, I'M WARNIN' YOU, BEFORE YOU SSS- DECIDE TO SHOW UP AT SUPERBRAWL, YOU THINK ABOUT DIS! I'M BIG POPPA PUMP, I DON'T FRAKE IT, I BREAK IT!"
  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,838
    Mr Dhalsim, I'll have the original Japanese one up, soon.
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  • Negative-Zer0Negative-Zer0 Joined: Posts: 9,704
    Otochun already hates D3v, Mixah, and Sanford.

    “I was trying to take the easy way out by running away from everything. No matter the pain, I will keep living. So when I die, I'll feel I did the best I could.” - Koala
  • SirMixahLotSirMixahLot Proud Shoryuken.com member since 2003 Joined: Posts: 3,379
    Otochun already hates D3v, Mixah, and Sanford.
    He doesn't like people who use top tiers to win.
    I don't win.

    Doesn't apply to me.
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  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,838
    I sent the Japanese version to STR, so hopefully that goes up soon :)
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  • WTF-AKUMA-HAXWTF-AKUMA-HAX BLACK-GOKU-HAX Joined: Posts: 18,024
    edited June 2013
    When tournaments in Japan are 1 and out and might as well be character locked, when are you supposed to counterpick? The next tournament? Where you will be matched up against different characters anyway!
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  • CrystalCoreCrystalCore Joined: Posts: 474
    blufang wrote: »
    I find it honorable to stick to one character, the one that fits you. Not picking top tiers just to win, or counterpicking cause you have a disadvantaged match up. It is very impressive when one sticks with a character through thick and thin, even from game to game and wins. It is probably much more satisfying as well.

    It definitely is, especially if it's a joke character, like Dan, or in Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Doronjo.
  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,838
    Mastering a character in both good and bad match ups and winning with both puts you at a far higher level than being good with someone and masterful with a main, and using the secondary for bad match ups for the main. You'll never master your main character if you can't get through the thick and thin. It's not even about honorable play, it's about being a true master in the character you chose. That sets you apart from people who hit a plateau. Of course, some characters is extremely hard to win with, but look at Hawk and Honda players, like Kusumondo who was so good at Honda that he beat one of the best DJ players in the country, with a match up that goes 3 to 7 or 2 to 8 depending on who you ask. That's incredible.
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  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    20 years, it's a long ride. He's still in good shape. Sure at one point a few years back in some clips, he was wearing a full suit. Glad he dropped that look.
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  • YannickYannick Max Range Panta Rhei Joined: Posts: 4,467
    Regarding the issue of playing multiple characters not being admirable, I think we may be looking at it from a slightly incorrect angle. I feel that Otochun's statement has very little to do with honor or any really abstract aesthetics. It's probably a line of thinking along a mostly common phrase around the world:

    "If you have time to do X, you could be doing Y."

    In short, I think he feels that all the time you spend learning to play several characters at a top level could be put toward making a main character that much better, constantly trying to surpass that character's current limits. He may feel that learning several characters isn't admirable because, at the end of the day, it really is something anybody can do given enough time...there's no real sense of awe there, possibly. Playing one character and yeah, playing through their weaknesses and bad matchups sure, but mostly sticking with that one character on the principle of sticking to your guns probably shows more focus and dedication than otherwise.

    Could be wrong, though.
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  • blitzfublitzfu Cosmic Power Joined: Posts: 3,072
    Great interview! Many thanks to all those involved. Now I have a desire to visit Nagase Autobahn. LOL
  • UnessentialUnessential Joined: Posts: 1,171
    edited June 2013
    Nice! been looking forward to this. Thanks so much

    edit: just skimmed through it . I love the oldschool stories. I need to find time to read through the whole thing from beginning to end sometime soon
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  • philcitophilcito The Berserker Shoto Joined: Posts: 1,178
    edited June 2013
    Thank you for reading guys.

    More interviews with our favorite top japanese players soon!


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  • Born2SPDBorn2SPD SPD Fanatic Joined: Posts: 276
    Pony/Gunze interview plzz
    I keep reading stuff about ST revival, about bringing this game back to life...
    Its nice to see big tourneys happening and old top players giving this game a chance again...
    But what we really need is new players... And having a strong scene obviously helps...
    But in my opinion what will really bring new players to our community is good tutorials/character guides so they can learn easily and have something to start... So, actually good players, stop being selfish and write stuff about the chars you know! The wiki is lacking so much basic content... Stop being lazy and do something about it.
  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,722
    I got hoop dreams coach. I wish for an interview with either Kurashashi, Shooting D, Gian, or Hakase.
  • papasipapasi N Ken is the truth Joined: Posts: 1,568
    Yuuvega man, that dude is way too cool.
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  • DNGR S PAPERCUTDNGR S PAPERCUT Joined: Posts: 1,608
    Hiroyan, he's coolness points are through the roof as well.
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  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,722
    Oh we're not trying to rush you or anything. If anything, we appreciate the work you're putting into getting into contact with these guys, working with the translators back and forth, etc. Keep doing your thing phil.
  • philcitophilcito The Berserker Shoto Joined: Posts: 1,178
    thank you bro! :)
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  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,838
    It's also a lot of work for the translators who do this for free. I'm starting to think we'll need another one or two people who can translate.
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  • UnessentialUnessential Joined: Posts: 1,171
    Wow, after reading this in more detail There's a couple of things that stuck out
    Even if you are in a tight situation, it’s important to stick to your own fighting style and not change it.

    Obviously he doesn't mean not to adapt, but I tend to sometimes try something i'm not too comfortable with. I take it as you gotta MAKE what you do work with the other player... which is definitely a new way of thinking about it...
    Question: Are there any other activities outside of SF2 that you are fiercely competitive against Aniken?

    Otochun: Mahjong! And Jikkyo Powerful Pro Yakyu series (Konami) are other games we’re both play.


    wow wtf is jikko... whatever... *googles*

    ... baseball?! wow that's some cute and adorable artwork.
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  • jamiejame911jamiejame911 Ever learning Joined: Posts: 424
    I'd be great to follow up and ask if they can record their matches from the Saturday events. We see no footage from that area ...
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  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,838
    I'd be great to follow up and ask if they can record their matches from the Saturday events. We see no footage from that area ...

    You know, that's a great suggestion! I'll pass it along. The only problem is that they may not want footage of them online if they're worried about being researched by other players.
    Disclaimer: I work for Paradise Arcade Shop. My posts are probably biased. Take that into consideration. Bye!
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