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  • EmanuelbEmanuelb Joined: Posts: 3,281
    I played a lot against this deck since a friend of mine has it. I think it is a fine option, not great, but not bad either. I'm not sure if it worth playing over Eldrazi Tron, though. Protean Hulk is a deck I really like, but I don't think is consistent enough to play at a GP.

    My latest discovery in modern is Esper Gifts with Obzedat, Ghost council + goryo's vengeance. So far this deck performs remarkably well, and is super fun too. You are playing the usual Gifts package of rites + norn and Iona, but you also have a 2nd plan in Obzedat + goryo's vengeance. Obzedat is surprisingly powerful against a lot of decks. Lots of removal and hand disruption, oh and you are playing 4 jace, vryn's prodigy



  • PerthoPertho Capt of Team #Hellspawn Joined: Posts: 22,823 mod
    https://wpn.wizards.com/en/article/commitment-each-other-building-community-together
    Ever since I started playing Magic back in 1995, I have always loved the game's ability to bring people together, to bridge gaps, and build relationships that last a lifetime. It's a telling point that most people start playing Magic with a friend. Heck, I started with a buddy in my junior year of college after we discovered this strange, wonderful card game in a local comic book shop.

    Magic is inherently social, and our community is as diverse as it is large, uniting tens of millions of players around the world in what is effectively a network of friends. And one of the most important things friends do is support one another. The basis of community is respect.

    Everyone at Wizards of the Coast feels this way, and we take that sentiment to heart. So a while back we asked for your help shaping a commitment to one another to foster an open, engaging, inclusive community.

    With input from players, retailers, tournament organizers, fans, and staff, this Commitment to Each Other represents the kind of community we all want to be. Friends hold each other accountable. Friends watch each other's backs. Friends welcome and respect newcomers. The spirit of friendship and a commitment to each other is what sets the Magic community apart as one of the best in gaming.

    To that end, expect to see this hanging in play spaces soon.

    en_community_commitment.jpg

    This is our commitment to each other. Think of it as evoking the spirit of our Code of Conduct, but by the community and for the community.

    Here's how we hope this commitment will be used.

    On our end, we will be working with our partners and stores on how best to roll out, display, and utilize this community commitment. Don't be surprised to see this posted in your local store or on stream with your favorite content creator.

    On the community's end, this commitment can be a tool players can point to in order to help keep play spaces fun. This commitment only works if we all want to make a positive, awesome community and we use this as a guiding light.

    Should you spot an issue, contact the owner or operator of the store, stream, or play space first. They will hopefully be ready and willing to address any issues locally. However, if you feel the need to escalate the issue, you can contact Wizards of the Coast directly to report any serious issues by getting in touch with Customer Support.

    Of course—and this is important—if you do say something, please do so in a constructive way. Sometimes a lapse in judgment can be an opportunity to learn and grow. The goal isn't to attack anyone who falls short, but to make our community as welcoming and inclusive as possible—and maybe even make a new friend.

    In that spirit, we're not even close to done working to make the Magic community the best it can be. Everyone at Wizards of the Coast wants to foster inclusive, positive, inviting places and groups for all Magic players, so that the next time a pair of friends shows up at a local game store, they find a community as welcoming and as awesome as I did. So we're going to keep trying to achieve that. That's our commitment to you.


    Not sure how I feel about this at the moment.
    Ronin Chaos on Pertho:

    "Oh, Pertho. You complete me."
    jimmy1200 wrote: »
    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,542
    It feels patronising but at least all it is is a sign saying play nice in too many words.

    I don't like being patronised but at least it ain't telling me to stop calling my manlands manlands and my birds shitehawks.
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
    -Stephen Fry

    "I know crackheads that could sneak into a house better than an 8th century shinobi."
    -Jimmy1200
  • riburibu A Return to Form Joined: Posts: 2,743
    I don't see the big deal. Basically can be summed up...dont be a shit to the people you play with.

    Annoying they are coming out and saying so much about it, but it is what it is.
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  • BR3N7BR3N7 All New Netflix Original Series: Orange Eats the Big Black Joined: Posts: 2,239
    Emanuelb wrote: »
    I played a lot against this deck since a friend of mine has it. I think it is a fine option, not great, but not bad either. I'm not sure if it worth playing over Eldrazi Tron, though. Protean Hulk is a deck I really like, but I don't think is consistent enough to play at a GP.

    Ya it felt like and you mix that along with loses due to a low tier manabase I moved on so I just bought and been playing mono-white Hatebears which was also even cheaper(paid nothing out of pocket just traded in all my crap I had left). So far been fine. It sucks vs Deaths Shadow and the Humans deck but everything else is even it seems at better(about 20 games). I am also playing it different than most but more to my style.

    4 Thraban Inspector
    4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    4 Leonin Arbiter
    4 Blade Splicer
    2 Eldrazi Displacer
    2 Aven Mindsensor
    1 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
    4 Flickerwisp
    4 Restoration Angel

    4 Aether Vial
    4 Path to Exile

    4 Shefet Dunes
    4 Eldrazi Temple
    4 Ghost Quarter
    4 Tectonic Edge
    1 Horizon Canopy
    1 Eiganjo Castle
    9 Plains

    3 Relic of Progenitus
    3 Stony Silence
    2 Blessed Alliance
    2 Mirran Crusader
    2 Sunlance
    1 Burrenton Forge-Tender
    1 Kor Firewalker
    1 Dusk/Dawn

    The board from Sunlance down is 100% being tweaked but rest is set in stone(maybe RIP over ROP is possible).
  • shinquickmanshinquickman Joined: Posts: 1,858
    edited December 2017
    I don't think this was made for any other reason than for WotC to point at something whenever someone exclaims "What are you doing about harassment in 'our' community!?" It is so broadly stated that WotC can do two things equally when a social issue arises; avoid culpability with the fuzzy unsolvable ones, and claim success with blatant solvable ones. I do like the line where they tell everyone not to attack people for making social mistakes. It's just a fancy way of saying "Don't be totally bitchmade".
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  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,542
    edited December 2017
    @BR3N7

    If you still got your temples and Eldrazi creatures it might be worth giving g/b Eldrazi a whirl, you lose the Leonin Arbiter land fuckery but you can still straight up destroy someone's soul with Inquizition>something>thoughtknot and being able to run Ancient Stirrings is a huge boost to consistancy.

    On a separate note, got my vampires built and testing at my lgs has been going pretty well so far (although being Christmas it was a bit more dead than usual so still got a load more to do)'

    4 Vampire Lacerator
    4 Shadow Alley Denizen
    4 Stromkirk Condemned
    4 Bloodghast
    4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
    4 Gifted Aetherborn
    4 Captivating Vampire
    4 Stromkirk Captain
    4 Vampire Nighthawk
    1 Mavren Frin
    3 Fatal Push

    4 Unclaimed Territory
    4 Concealed Courtyard
    4 Blackcleave Cliffs
    1 Mash Flats
    6 Swamps
    1 Plains

    Side
    1 Fatal Push
    4 Vendetta
    2 Makakir Bloodwitch
    4 Vampire Hexmage
    4 Collective Brutality

    You basicly just get to run gudstuff with 2 3 droplords and one psudo lord on 2 drop, a little unsure about sideboard vendettas but they'll kill affinity and between not punching myself with anything else and all the incidental life gai n I think I can afford them in other matchups where I feel I need more spot removal.

    Working towards a playset of cavern of souls to swap in in place of some of the fast lands but thats going to take a while since they're fucking expensive.
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
    -Stephen Fry

    "I know crackheads that could sneak into a house better than an 8th century shinobi."
    -Jimmy1200
  • BR3N7BR3N7 All New Netflix Original Series: Orange Eats the Big Black Joined: Posts: 2,239
    worldshaper.jpg

    That screams potential in Legacy and Modern.

    And I need 75 of this to back a deck now...

    daringbuccaneer.jpg
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 6,380
    edited January 3
    maybe modern is
    ribu wrote: »
    I don't see the big deal. Basically can be summed up...dont be a shit to the people you play with.

    Annoying they are coming out and saying so much about it, but it is what it is.

    some of the actions done by people and words said by people in the local poker casinos will get people banned from the casinos...

    BR3N7 wrote: »
    worldshaper.jpg

    That screams potential in Legacy and Modern.

    And I need 75 of this to back a deck now...

    daringbuccaneer.jpg

    I see that the colors are off. Merfolk are supposed to be blue and pirates are supposed to be red...
  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,542
    They only went and gave vampires a 2 drop lord.

    Thats it, I'm fucking locked in on vampires now, we in there.
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
    -Stephen Fry

    "I know crackheads that could sneak into a house better than an 8th century shinobi."
    -Jimmy1200
  • riburibu A Return to Form Joined: Posts: 2,743
    azorthelawbringer.jpg

    Very on the fence about this one. The idea of a Sphix's Revelation each turn is interesting, but:
    Standard seems rough, bout friend of mine pointed out he is an Interesting board option for UW Approach to deal with negates and duress brought in against you, and does protect himself initially from wipes. But since he doesn't protect himself the turn he comes out from instants he can die to lighting or contempt.

    EDH he has to compete with a bunch of already strong generals so I doubt he'll be relevant their either...
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  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,542
    Damnnnnnn Warsail Marauder looks borderline modern quality.

    I mean the pure utility of that ability, not only can it clear blockers out of its way and make them only able to chump your guy on the ground, at best you get to make those Kitchen Finks stay dead or stop that Wurmcoil splitting when you kill it.

    Damn just give us one more 1 drop flyer and pirates are going to be fucking insane in standard too.
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
    -Stephen Fry

    "I know crackheads that could sneak into a house better than an 8th century shinobi."
    -Jimmy1200
  • BR3N7BR3N7 All New Netflix Original Series: Orange Eats the Big Black Joined: Posts: 2,239
    Yes that card seems it can go right in the humans deck. That is a lot of flavor for a 2 drop.
  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,542
    Man the art on the new Huatli looks so meme worthy, I'm half glad that she looks to be absolute shit since I'll happily pick her up for the price of a Tibalt just to have that in my folder.

    I'm unsure on World Shaper, I'm guessing the dream is to play a bunch of fetches, get it out turn 3 with a mana dork and then block something big with it to get the fetches back but I'm kind of wary about relying on death triggers in modern with path still being everywhere.

    I kind of want him to have a home though since the art is pretty as fuck, wetness is the essence of beauty.
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
    -Stephen Fry

    "I know crackheads that could sneak into a house better than an 8th century shinobi."
    -Jimmy1200
  • riburibu A Return to Form Joined: Posts: 2,743
    Jeez this set pushes so much stuff for each tribe in edh.

    Nayasaurs has so many new cards, good cards, to replace the lacklusters you had to cram in.
    Merfolks have gotten so many good cards for edh,Standard, and imo even modern. I have a hard time not seeing some type of deck exist for them in standard, even if it's FNM level.

    Love the vampires coming out in this set. Let's me push my low creature cost Edgar Markov build even further lol.
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  • InfernomanInfernoman Bro as Hell Joined: Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Who else in a movie wrestled an evil lesbian and by forcefully kissing her, turned her not only heterosexual but good as well? Exactly. That, my friend, is the power of Sean motherfucking Connery - Valaris
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 6,380
    edited January 4
    1514997353_azoro.png combos with this well nezahalprimaltide.jpg and add this for good measure. Owned for free... Image.ashx?multiverseid=49764&type=card


    This card can break Legacy and Vintage. This card might be able to break Modern and Standard as well. This card is basically 3 cards in 1...
  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,542
    edited January 5
    Damn looking at Ebay pre-order prices and Blood Sun is way overhyped now.

    I mean don't get me wrong turning off fetches and stopping manlands animating and ghost quarters dicking you is nice but besides hitting fetches harder and cantripping it really does just seem like Blood Moon's bargin bin brother.

    When blood moon comes in it says "Fuck your fancy modern manabase I win"

    When blood sun comes in it says "I really hope you still have fetches in hand or on board, btw all your manlands, fastlands and shocks are now alpha duals, hope you don't mind that"

    Edit: And seriously, please just 1 black or blue 1 drop better than deadeye tracker to go with Siren Stormcaller, pirates is so close to being there but having to be able to represent red turn 1 rather than being able to wait till turn 4 feels pretty annoying when all my best 2 and 3 drops are black or blue.
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
    -Stephen Fry

    "I know crackheads that could sneak into a house better than an 8th century shinobi."
    -Jimmy1200
  • King of penguinsKing of penguins Joined: Posts: 441
    Jion_Wansu wrote: »
    1514997353_azoro.png combos with this well nezahalprimaltide.jpg and add this for good measure. Owned for free... Image.ashx?multiverseid=49764&type=card


    This card can break Legacy and Vintage. This card might be able to break Modern and Standard as well. This card is basically 3 cards in 1...

    for 7 mana with 2 colored, in legacy and vintage the card better win you the game on the spot. wich it doesnt. As for modern it's even a bit slow for that format with this color.
  • BullDancerBullDancer Mentos, The Freshmaker Joined: Posts: 9,552
    Blood sun is definitely not overhyped versus a deck that has fetches and manlands. Bad blood moon is still a worse copy of one of the best cards in the entire game. Just not sure if it matters in Standard though.
    "Rock abandoned Neesa there like you were gonna abandon your son and wife and live alone with your TV"~Akuma-HAX
  • BR3N7BR3N7 All New Netflix Original Series: Orange Eats the Big Black Joined: Posts: 2,239
    Blood Sun is the new Harsh Mentor. Looks great but I think its either going to be great or terrible... Like GR Tron can use it which is nifty but seems not as good as people are making it out to be... So I would say 15% chance it sticks in Modern and 0.09% in Legacy/Vintage.

  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,542
    Yeah but bad Blood Moon's best place to be is the place good Blood Moon is still comfortably sat in doing it's job better.

    It's like Midnight Haunting in a format where Lingering Souls exists or Incinerate squaring up against Skullcrack and Atarka's Command for a burn deck slot.
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
    -Stephen Fry

    "I know crackheads that could sneak into a house better than an 8th century shinobi."
    -Jimmy1200
  • BullDancerBullDancer Mentos, The Freshmaker Joined: Posts: 9,552
    Blood moon isn't strictly better all the way. Blood moon allows fetches to be mana. Blood sun outright keeps fetches from even being activated and it provides a tad more advantage with the draw. It's still a great card and it's an enchantment so it is not easy to get rid of.
    "Rock abandoned Neesa there like you were gonna abandon your son and wife and live alone with your TV"~Akuma-HAX
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 6,380
    Teferi's Isle is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • riburibu A Return to Form Joined: Posts: 2,743
    oathswornvampire.jpg

    This is low key my favorite card of the set. Gives my Edgar Markov deck another infinite combo without going too far out of the way of my current build lol.
    oathswornvampire.jpg
    306.jpg
    99.jpg

    Now that's a spicy combo
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  • PreppyPreppy act like you're used to it Joined: Posts: 14,460 admin
    You need a way to pick up one more mana for the sac, sadly. Throw in Heartless Summoning, figure out a way to pump Blood Artist?

    Thanks for being here. Thanks for being part of this.

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  • riburibu A Return to Form Joined: Posts: 2,743
    Not in Edgar Markov deck.
    He'll make a vampire token each cast to sac with Oathsworn.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,714
    Make sure to include this

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    “Strong people don't put others down... They lift them up.”
    - Darth Vader, Philanthropist
  • The DamnedThe Damned Hope: You can't believe in it Joined: Posts: 10,983 mod
    (The most "amusing" thing about wading through the whiny ass comments over on MythicSpoiler was how Edgar Markov was mentioned on every remotely good Vampire card. I guess he's the new Kaalia of the Vast now, which is hilarious given they are even in the same colors despite there barely having been White Vampires before Ixalan dropped.)

    I'm a bit surprised that all of Rivals of Ixalan got spoiled so quickly. I'm even more surprised that, given the trend of recent two-block Magic sets, that this block features not only mostly playable cards, but also quite a few really good ones for as often as I saw the spoiled "this isn't good enough!" sentiment on way too many of them. A lot of interesting design space used too whether the cards themselves worked out or not

    Only things that seem obvious at present is that every tribe actually got support, which I was legitimately worried about given that what unfortunately happened in Shadows over Innistrad where every non-Human tribe got the finger, and that Blue is easily the strongest color in Rivals of Ixalan at least, which is ironic given that it arguably has the weakest Mythic, though Nezahal is still usable despite all the kvetching. Honestly, I'm not sure what the strongest new card is in (mono-)Blue. There's like...at least six contenders, which is absurd, especially since apparently WotC didn't really learn from Invisible Stalker's mistake, which disappoints me:

    slipperyscoundrel.jpg

    Gods damn it, Wizards.
    "Well, see, the real magic isn't believing in yourself. The real magic is manipulating people by telling them to believe in themselves. The more you believe, the less you check facts."
    - Oglaf's Vanka in "Conviction"

    "Freddie experienced the sort of abysmal soul-sadness which afflicts one of Tolstoy's Russian peasants when, after putting in a heavy day's work strangling his father, beating his wife, and dropping the baby into the city's reservoir, he turns to the cupboards, only to find the vodka bottle empty."
    - P. G. Wodehouse
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 6,380
    All you have to do is cast this en_sB70y6Sc7D.png when this attacks en_EoWLXRAXDu.png


    After combat damage resolves you can automatically untap Famished Paladin because you gained life from Moment of Triumph
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 6,380
    Once this site goes down. You might check this:

    http://www.trmk.org/forums/showthread.php/4173-Magic-The-Gathering
  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,542
    Or we could just make an mtg thread in the forum we migrate to
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
    -Stephen Fry

    "I know crackheads that could sneak into a house better than an 8th century shinobi."
    -Jimmy1200
  • riburibu A Return to Form Joined: Posts: 2,743
    Finally figure out who "that guy" is at the card store I go to...
    Dude bitched for an entire game about a someone using proxied OG duals when the rest of the table was cool with it.
    Constantly tells people to read cards, when he doesn't know what they do.
    Was trying to explain to him how I was building Edgar Markov to be combo based, and he started interrupting to let me know how good http://mythicspoiler.com/rix/cards/championofdusk.jpg was and how I should jam X 6+ drop vampires...
    Plays Phenax Mill as his main EDH deck.
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  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 6,380
    lol, like those poker players
  • InfernomanInfernoman Bro as Hell Joined: Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I'm so glad at work we started a MTG group. Dug through my old stuff and am going to make an EDH deck eventually. One rule we established first was fun first. No one gets serious it's just fun.
    Who else in a movie wrestled an evil lesbian and by forcefully kissing her, turned her not only heterosexual but good as well? Exactly. That, my friend, is the power of Sean motherfucking Connery - Valaris
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  • PerthoPertho Capt of Team #Hellspawn Joined: Posts: 22,823 mod
    This deck is really good, but since we basically killed its one bad match up, we're gonna kill it too.

    :rofl:
    Ronin Chaos on Pertho:

    "Oh, Pertho. You complete me."
    jimmy1200 wrote: »
    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,542
    Tbh it's kind of funny how they didnt so much shoot standard rdw (Ramunap was always a fucking dumb name for it, it's just fucking rdw) rather opting to just take away it's sideboard card and feed it to the vampires and dinosaurs instead.

    "Lots of incidental lifegain? Right let me side in my.... Fuck"
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
    -Stephen Fry

    "I know crackheads that could sneak into a house better than an 8th century shinobi."
    -Jimmy1200

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