kikimaru024, post: 1254418 wrote:
Seimitsu LS-40-01 should install fine in a Madcatz Tournament Edition.
The 5-pin connector just has to be flipped around IIRC.
ExecutorImperious, post: 1254422 wrote:
I noticed both companies have square buttons, supposedly for mahjong games. Do they act like the respective company's other pushbuttons? As one of those folks who likes to rest their fingers on the buttons, it would be a plus if I knew for certain which I'd have less chance of accidentally activating.
UNW4NT3D, post: 1254423 wrote:
Just use seimitsu buttons instead of sanwa, theyre not as sensitive and should do fine for resting your fingers on. I used to have that problem with sanwa buttons and changing to seimitsu worked wonders. Years later I can now use either brand without problem
I have a question. Will seimitsu's PS-14-DN-K (24mm version of the KN) take sanwa switches? The PS-14-DN-C buttons I have already take them just fine I'm just wondering (hoping) if the DN-K will also.
nkaine, post: 1254419 wrote:
Which of these sticks would you choose and why?
¿Do both have the same quality of components?
Negative-Zer0, post: 1254428 wrote:
I am thinking about modding My Mayflash with Semitsu parts. I just need to know which Joystick is best for either Sanwa, Semitsu, or any other company. I like a Joystick with a bit of resistance, like the old p2 (not p1) CvS2 sticks at the old CTF.
GeorgeC, post: 1254429 wrote:
Seimitsu joysticks generally have more resistance than the Sanwa JLF...
I think it has as much to do with the fact that they have gated microswitches on them as it does the heavier coil springs.
The gates on the microswitches in addition to the slightly greater spring resistance is what eventually turned me towards the Seimitsu line of joysticks. (I prefer Sanwa pushbuttons for their greater sensitivity, though. There are a couple of very decent Seimitsu pushbuttons and at least 2/3 of the line is cross-compatible switch-wise with the Sanwa OBSX-X line of pushbuttons.)
The gated microswitches is what has made it easier for me to use square gates on the Seimitsus as well as enjoy playing pre-SFIV fighters with joysticks. The greater looseness and greater throw on the JLF has made it very difficult for me to try to adjust playing older Capcom CPS-2 fighters (Darkstalkers, SF Alpha, the Marvel games, etc.) with that joystick -- square gate or octogate installed.
By contrast, the LS-32-01 and LS-40-01 have been easier to play with on both polygon fighters and the old 2D/sprite-based fighters. The LS-40 is allegedly the same joystick used in the SNK Neo Geo cabinets (Samurai Shodown, Fatal Fury, King of Fighters), too.
There was nothing I found that I could reasonably do to make the JLF a better joystick for me and I've read all the mods and tried a few. Unless you're willing to rebuild the actuator and change about a half-dozen other things, throw will always be an issue with that joystick.
On the other hand, I've never been crazy about having an ultra-hard resistance joystick, either. The LS-32/LS-40's seem to have the right amount of resistance for the majority of games I play. The -32 in particular is also pretty darn good for 2-D shooters, platform games like Earthworm Jim, and Pac-Man (with the subguide four-way restrictor gate).
All joysticks have their quirks and things most of us don't like about them. You just have to try and experiment and find out what's most comfortable for you.
This is by no means the last authority on the subject, and some of us have questions about its conclusions, but this link to a SlagCoin FAQ is as good a beginning point for making decisions about parts without buying everything in sight and going broke I guess... ==> Joystick Controller - Joystick and Button Attributes and Brand Parts
KabaL, post: 1254437 wrote:
Any help? Please?
bolt9289, post: 1254435 wrote:
I have question more geared toward arcade cabinets.
Why did the japanese arcade industry switch to LS-32 unfriendly panels?
Godstar, post: 5470145 wrote:
Hello, I'm working on a Agetec Dreamcast "green goblin" stick I'm fitting out with a bunch of 30mm Sanwa buttons and and a JLF stick, and just had some quick questions on some basic things I'm looking for. SNIP
EvilSamurai, post: 5470656 wrote:
Sanwa buttons were always the standard. Seimitsu buttons are only generally used when they come stock with control panels. When the stock ones break, they are replaced with Sanwas.
Seimitsu joysticks, the LS-32 in particular, used to be the standard for everything (since its introduction in the 80s) prior to Sanwa introducing the JLF being introduced in the mid 90s. The JLF gradually became the standard fighting game joystick over the years. The LS-32 is still standard for everything else that doesn't use specialty controls such as light guns, steering wheels, and flight sticks. The other Seimitsu joysticks are generally restricted to certain types of cabinets: LS-33 for very small cabs, LS-40 for Neo-Geo, LS-30 for games that require a rotary joystick, LS-56 is an attempt at a JLF clone that was used in late 90s Sega cabs, LS-55 is a larger form factor LS-33 but the dynamics are completely different as it is scaled up. I have no idea what the LS-55 was originally developed for.
The smaller form factor of the Neo-Geo AES stick demanded a smaller joystick (the LS-33 was not around then) so it used a custom non-rotary LS-30 that felt closer to an LS-32 than the LS-40 used in actual Neo-Geo cabinets. The buttons were custom Seimitsu ones that didn't feel that great.
ixus, post: 5471035 wrote:
Nothing personal, but wow you just made the whole history up, good job man.
Dr. Faust, post: 5685282 wrote:
ok how tense is the ls-56. Is it as stiff as a Happ stick. I'm trying to find which stick is best for me. I don't like square gates and I hate sawna parts. I'm looking at ether getting the ls-32/56(octa gate) or a Happ stick. I mostly play kof and doing a lot of those motions are kinda odd for me on a square gate so I'm thinking that the ls-56 with the octa gate would be best because its not super stiff like the happ sticks but not loose like the sawan sticks. Also what type of mounting plate should i get if i want to put the ls-32/56 into a TE stick.
eperelez, post: 5741195 wrote:
First time I've seen these:
jdm714, post: 5796742 wrote:
The wobble at Neutral is normal, and is called Deadzone.
But if yours is a lot, then is not normal.
Replace with new JLF Spring.
Replace with LS-32 Spring for slight.
Replace with LS-55 Spring for more.
There is a lot difference between Sanwa and Seimitsu.
jdm714, post: 5796768 wrote:
jeffrey caldwell, post: 5903086 wrote:
ive been wanting to get a colored shaft and dust cover for my sanwa JLF and the only ones i can find that are colored are seimitsu...does anyone know if the shaft covers are interchangable? if not, do they make colored shaft covers at all for sanwas?