The ST match vids + discussion thread

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  • SweetJohnnyVSweetJohnnyV Streets ahead! Joined: Posts: 1,981 mod
    Criticism welcome

    Cool vids, thanks for posting!

    As far as critiques go, the one thing I noticed is that you(and others in these vids) seemed a bit super happy. Like, someone would do a super, it'd get blocked, and then the other person would immediately do their super to get the block damage. It's a fine technique, and I probably use it too much myself. But the thing is, especially with boxer, is that by holding onto the super you effectively limit the moves that your opponent can do. And often times, this can be better than getting a bit of damage. Just something to consider...
  • ToyRobotTerrorToyRobotTerror Magnificent Bastard Joined: Posts: 2,078
    new matches at mikado
    Fuck skrulls
  • djfrijolesdjfrijoles First ST player to ever moon a live stream baby ! Joined: Posts: 2,054
    ST


    hattari ( ken ) vs san ( ryu )


    hattari ( ken ) vs namara dhalsim ( dhalsim )


    fuji shima ( barlog ) vs san ( ryu )


    namara dhalsim ( dhalsim ) vs fujishima ( barlog )


    Kusumondo/Otochun vs Futachan/The SuperStar


    Aniken/Tasaka vs Kusumondo/Otochun


    Kuni/Seki vs Futachan/The SuperStar


    Kusumondo/Otochun vs Kachu/Tatsu


    ARG/Gotoh vs Aniken/Tasaka


    Futachan/The SuperStar vs SIN/HIRO


    Aniken/Tasaka vs Kuni/Seki
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=XOBQv8e-nZw

    Kuni/Seki vs Rokko/Batayan
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=oyG1oeiXEIs




    I just had me a few strong Tequilas with Squirt and ice cubes while I watched those and really enjoyed mysel =)

    Thnaks for those links!!!

    Did you guys notice that link # 5 and 6 are the same. At first I thought the drinks
    were getting to me:looney::looney::looney:

    Any ways man, thumbs up!!!


    *edit*

    Just bumped into this. Don't know if you guys already saw it.

    http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1SCPXPUbE
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  • ToyRobotTerrorToyRobotTerror Magnificent Bastard Joined: Posts: 2,078
    I just had me a few strong Tequilas with Squirt and ice cubes while I watched those and really enjoyed mysel =)

    Thnaks for those links!!!

    Did you guys notice that link # 5 and 6 are the same. At first I thought the drinks
    were getting to me:looney::looney::looney:

    Any ways man, thumbs up!!!


    *edit*

    Just bumped into this. Don't know if you guys already saw it.

    http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1SCPXPUbE
    oops:rofl:
    Fuck skrulls
  • AirthrowAirthrow Joined: Posts: 4,525
    Here's a first-to-five money match between SRK member Axel Kelly (Aka Umbrellastyle) and myself from 1/18/08.

    Part 1
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=UaNP8xcOMEg
    Part 2
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=7t0ULvddCvw
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  • ShinAkuma204ShinAkuma204 The Primordial Ooze Joined: Posts: 4,524
    Here's a first-to-five money match between SRK member Axel Kelly (Aka Umbrellastyle) and myself from 1/18/08.

    Part 1
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=UaNP8xcOMEg
    Part 2
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=7t0ULvddCvw

    Good matches.

    I was going to mention something about using the ducking forward but I noticed the date of the MM. Suffice to say if you play him again, you will definitely see the difference the ducking forward makes. I noticed about a dozen spots where you both poked at range and whiffed on each other. A ducking forward in those spots would have ate his poke.

    Hopefully you get more matches against this guy.
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  • AirthrowAirthrow Joined: Posts: 4,525
    Thanks, yeah I definitely should've used the c. mk more. If my windows movie maker is agreeable tommorow like it was today, I'll try to post some more tournament matches from 1/18, but only about half of that tourney would be viewable since one of the tapes had issues...
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  • ToyRobotTerrorToyRobotTerror Magnificent Bastard Joined: Posts: 2,078
    I watched the seattle ranbat on preppys site. Good shit, the claw vs claw match was hilarious
    Fuck skrulls
  • AirthrowAirthrow Joined: Posts: 4,525
    I watched the seattle ranbat on preppys site. Good shit, the claw vs claw match was hilarious

    Which date? A lot of the old ones are hilarious for all the wrong reasons.... :rofl:

    We've only all been playing the game seriously since feb-march of last year. If the Random Select Portland vids ever come out, that is probably our highest level of play from Seattle players IMO.
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  • ToyRobotTerrorToyRobotTerror Magnificent Bastard Joined: Posts: 2,078
    Which date? A lot of the old ones are hilarious for all the wrong reasons.... :rofl:

    We've only all been playing the game seriously since feb-march of last year. If the Random Select Portland vids ever come out, that is probably our highest level of play from Seattle players IMO.
    I only found one ranbat on preppys. There are more?
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  • AirthrowAirthrow Joined: Posts: 4,525
    I only found one ranbat on preppys. There are more?

    Yeah you can find the old shitty videos by going to zachd.com, search, and typing "super turbo" in the search box, but I seriously wouldn't recommend it. We're only just now becoming almost decent.
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  • ToyRobotTerrorToyRobotTerror Magnificent Bastard Joined: Posts: 2,078
    I dont care that much about skill level.
    Fuck skrulls
  • ShinAkuma204ShinAkuma204 The Primordial Ooze Joined: Posts: 4,524
    Thanks, yeah I definitely should've used the c. mk more. If my windows movie maker is agreeable tommorow like it was today, I'll try to post some more tournament matches from 1/18, but only about half of that tourney would be viewable since one of the tapes had issues...

    DVD recorder. The ones with no hard drive are cheap and a couple of DVD RW's and you got yourself 8+ hours of digital recording power. Easy to transfer to the PC as well. Something like DVD decrypter will copy the file to your PC and a free Divx or Xvid encoder does the rest.
    Yeah you can find the old shitty videos by going to zachd.com, search, and typing "super turbo" in the search box, but I seriously wouldn't recommend it. We're only just now becoming almost decent.

    What's Preppy's site?
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  • AirthrowAirthrow Joined: Posts: 4,525
    zachd.com
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  • djfrijolesdjfrijoles First ST player to ever moon a live stream baby ! Joined: Posts: 2,054
    This guy has a bunch of good vids I had never seen b4.

    http://mx.youtube.com/user/CCCPSoviet1917
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    <garyangel> (((((((((((((((
    <djfrijoles> kyouya is with his gf gary
    <Random.Jab.DP.Spamer> his gf is gary ?
  • ToyRobotTerrorToyRobotTerror Magnificent Bastard Joined: Posts: 2,078
    This guy has a bunch of good vids I had never seen b4.

    http://mx.youtube.com/user/CCCPSoviet1917

    combovideos.com, msc
    Fuck skrulls
  • psychochronicpsychochronic 5 fingers in a fist Joined: Posts: 1,854
    Two sets fo first-to-10 at my house on 2-9-08:
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  • EhondaEhonda Nothingness of Xband Joined: Posts: 399
    www.youtube.com/damdai Here is the link to a few of the matches from the latest Philly tourney.
    aka Nothingness from xband
    t+ T+ -r+ m+ s+ v+ M+ o+
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n6J6aUfa2_8 (me playing ST and losing
    SUMO
  • AirthrowAirthrow Joined: Posts: 4,525
    I learned a lot from both of those videos, damn I need to visit Philly...
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  • EhondaEhonda Nothingness of Xband Joined: Posts: 399
    You missed the best matches. They were never posted by request of the players.
    aka Nothingness from xband
    t+ T+ -r+ m+ s+ v+ M+ o+
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n6J6aUfa2_8 (me playing ST and losing
    SUMO
  • SweetJohnnyVSweetJohnnyV Streets ahead! Joined: Posts: 1,981 mod
    www.youtube.com/damdai Here is the link to a few of the matches from the latest Philly tourney.

    Good stuff! :tup:
  • Half-RoHalf-Ro Omae wa mo shinderu.... Joined: Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Sup all. I want to step my st game up alot. I have a few recent st finals I was in, any comments on how I could go about stepping it up would be appreciated!



  • UltraDavidUltraDavid commenta..ttorney?? Joined: Posts: 6,053
    I can give you a little advice for the Gief part. The Ken player liked to stick out crouching forward a lot against you, which you can easily blow through with crouching roundhouse. You might trade, but your sweep will do more damage and get a knockdown, so don't worry about that. You can also beat crouching attacks like that with max-range standing short or go over

    I'd also like to see more walk-up spd. Once you got within a certain range, the Ken player liked to sit there crouch blocking in expectation of a sweep or a tick; walk up and spd him for doing that. I think you tried that once and it ended up in green hand, so if you have difficulty doing it, practice practice practice.

    Also, the Ken player ticked into throw against you a few times, but that shouldn't work against Zangief. When the opponent hits you, you should do a quick option-select 360 + p ending in crouch block, so that if the opponent continues the combo or poke string you'll just keep getting hit or keep blocking, but if the opponent leaves an instant of empty space to go for a throw or a jump you'll spd him (note: sometimes dangerous against dragon punch characters). At the same time, I want fewer wake-up spd attempts, especially against characters who have attacks they can do from outside your range or dragon punches they can do to keep you honest.

    I also want more antiair lariats against jumping attacks and better punishment for whiffed dragon punches in the form of atomic suplexes (if in range) or spd. Oh, and always do green hand if your command grab leaves you at a distance from the opponent.
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  • Half-RoHalf-Ro Omae wa mo shinderu.... Joined: Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I can give you a little advice for the Gief part. The Ken player liked to stick out crouching forward a lot against you, which you can easily blow through with crouching roundhouse. You might trade, but your sweep will do more damage and get a knockdown, so don't worry about that. You can also beat crouching attacks like that with max-range standing short or go over

    I'd also like to see more walk-up spd. Once you got within a certain range, the Ken player liked to sit there crouch blocking in expectation of a sweep or a tick; walk up and spd him for doing that. I think you tried that once and it ended up in green hand, so if you have difficulty doing it, practice practice practice.

    Also, the Ken player ticked into throw against you a few times, but that shouldn't work against Zangief. When the opponent hits you, you should do a quick option-select 360 + p ending in crouch block, so that if the opponent continues the combo or poke string you'll just keep getting hit or keep blocking, but if the opponent leaves an instant of empty space to go for a throw or a jump you'll spd him (note: sometimes dangerous against dragon punch characters). At the same time, I want fewer wake-up spd attempts, especially against characters who have attacks they can do from outside your range or dragon punches they can do to keep you honest.

    I also want more antiair lariats against jumping attacks and better punishment for whiffed dragon punches in the form of atomic suplexes (if in range) or spd. Oh, and always do green hand if your command grab leaves you at a distance from the opponent.

    Appreciate it!

    I felt I could have played Gief better but, I had already lost 2 in set so, I switched to my other main, Rog. Thanks for the advice on Gief though, I will work on him more. I fell as though Gief and Ryu(not seen obviously) are my two characters that I need to work on more.

    On Gief: Can s.mk be used as a solid anti-c.mk from shotos too?? I noticed that it fits the purpose well or should I always just go for the trade knock down (c.rh)??
    At around 2:15, is that the green hand you were speaking about?? If so that wasnt a 360 attempt, I was just trying to chip him out but, looking back it does look like I was in range for a 360. I think in the match as a whole, I wasnt playing my game enough. We both play alot and I know he likes to try to reversal the tick - 360's alot, which would explain all of the s.sk to c.rh. I just want him to block more, play safer so I could get more 360's but, my plan couldnt materialize quick enough.

    Anyone with any advice for 'Rog???


    Edited for a more specific response.
  • AirthrowAirthrow Joined: Posts: 4,525
    Sup all. I want to step my st game up alot. I have a few recent st finals I was in, any comments on how I could go about stepping it up would be appreciated!




    You should go on youtube and search for videos by XTG (youtube.com/airthrow).

    Ken vs Zangief is a veeery hard matchup indeed, but that Ken player didn't really play the most dangerous, zangief killing way by throwing that many slow fireballs. After knockdown, you should really mix it up more and use safe jumps and tick throws more.

    After MOST of his normals being blocked you should look for SPDs. Also, practice your reversal throw timing a lot, you shouldn't ever be getting kneebashed by Ken, because SPDs will beat Kneebashes on the same frame, every time.

    Don't be so afraid to jump in, but pick the right time. If your only method of getting in is lariats, than it's much easier for him to figure out a zoning strategy than if you mix lariats, jumping, walk in+cr. RH, walk forward+st. MK, etc.

    Practice your SPD. practice practice practice.

    Good stuff though! :karate:
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    How do you select O ken?

    Select Ken by pressing start. Then LLLR Jap, or Fierce?
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  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926


    Jump LK ticks are useful, and you should walking SPD more often. You were in range a couple times but decided to lariat or tick.
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  • Half-RoHalf-Ro Omae wa mo shinderu.... Joined: Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Jump LK ticks are useful, and you should walking SPD more often. You were in range a couple times but decided to lariat or tick.

    Thanks, I appreciate the advice.
  • UltraDavidUltraDavid commenta..ttorney?? Joined: Posts: 6,053
    On Gief: Can s.mk be used as a solid anti-c.mk from shotos too?? I noticed that it fits the purpose well or should I always just go for the trade knock down (c.rh)??
    For sure. I wrote in that post, "You can also beat crouching attacks like that with max-range standing short or go over..." and then I guess just forgot to finish the sentence (?), but I meant to finish it with "or go over it with standing forward." That's a big part of Gief's footsie games.

    Gief v Ken is pretty even, it's just that Gief can't really go for safe jumps or ticks into spd very often. He has to rely more on footsies and spacing and creating guessing games between tick into spd and tick crouching roundhouse or crouching forward xx kick lariat (if very close).
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  • Half-RoHalf-Ro Omae wa mo shinderu.... Joined: Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    For sure. I wrote in that post, "You can also beat crouching attacks like that with max-range standing short or go over..." and then I guess just forgot to finish the sentence (?), but I meant to finish it with "or go over it with standing forward." That's a big part of Gief's footsie games.

    Gief v Ken is pretty even, it's just that Gief can't really go for safe jumps or ticks into spd very often. He has to rely more on footsies and spacing and creating guessing games between tick into spd and tick crouching roundhouse or crouching forward xx kick lariat (if very close).



    Thanks! I appreciate the advice guys. I really need some advice with my 'rog though too. Is there anyone that could help me out with that??
  • FreshOJFreshOJ It's the God in me.. Joined: Posts: 1,485
    Thanks! I appreciate the advice guys. I really need some advice with my 'rog though too. Is there anyone that could help me out with that??

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  • psychochronicpsychochronic 5 fingers in a fist Joined: Posts: 1,854
    So a friend of mine wants to learn this game and the only SF experience he got is CvS2 so I said I'd take it easy on him and that I wouldn't use my main character (Chun-Li):
    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6C443C71F27F42A6 <--30 matches
    This is the first time also I'm using Claw and Blanka too!
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  • ParryPerson.ParryPerson. It is done. Joined: Posts: 4,011
    So a friend of mine wants to learn this game and the only SF experience he got is CvS2 so I said I'd take it easy on him and that I wouldn't use my main character (Chun-Li):
    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6C443C71F27F42A6 <--30 matches
    This is the first time also I'm using Claw and Blanka too!

    ew.

    Looks like your skill levels are about the same. Now make each other better!

    EDIT: More constructive stuff = Vega needs more cr.mp, tell him he doesn't have to use specials non-stop, Ken needs less random super and needs more fireballs, bait a wall dive and DP, he shouldn't be getting that many free jumpins.

    I'd say start using your Chun ASAP. We all learned the hard way, he shouldn't be any different.
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  • psychochronicpsychochronic 5 fingers in a fist Joined: Posts: 1,854
    I'd say start using your Chun ASAP. We all learned the hard way, he shouldn't be any different.

    Looks like I gotta stop sandbagging and picking secondaries, even when helping someone get better. :lol:
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  • CapMasterCapMaster OG Pad Player Joined: Posts: 718 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I don't know if this was posted anywhere, but I found some videos floating around of some old-school B4 finals vids. Awesome.

    Valle VS Watson: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ptIXVmFabL4

    Shirts VS Jason Nelson: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sZvyWZlcXDg

    Valle VS Watson: http://youtube.com/watch?v=uP6Vl6QoIjY

    Choi VS Valle: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2R1bvebFk1w

    Cole VS Choi: http://youtube.com/watch?v=AcT9TAMQBVU
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  • SargothSargoth Soldier of steel Joined: Posts: 218
    Just some scrub matches. Some of you will laugh , others will cry , but dangit , im trying :xeye:



  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Just some scrub matches. Some of you will laugh , others will cry , but dangit , im trying :xeye:
    You were on the left? You have an awfully wide idea of what constitutes a scrub. Those 5-hit crossover combos were money, and doing combos that involve cancelling into super are no joke either. :rock:
  • SargothSargoth Soldier of steel Joined: Posts: 218
    Yeah on the left. Well , its the fact that i cant space at all , and my DP ratio is way to low to do decent corner traps ( seems DP`ing is harder in ST... ). Ok so I got a lucky combo here and there , but the mistakes I did more than "make up" for that.

    Thnx tho , always appreciate feedback :wgrin:
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