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  • JRDIBBSJRDIBBS Neighborhood Modder Joined: Posts: 417
    gahrling wrote: »
    JRDIBBS wrote: »
    The KMini is a reduced size Kaimana that has the 20pin female header to sit on top of 20pin enabled boards such as the Brooks UFB. The KK has the 20 pin plus a built in USB switcher which allows you to, with a single usb cable, switch between the controller pcb and the Kaimana by pressing home+K1. Other than that its the same chip so the code from the KM will work with the KK. There is a breakout board that we sell here that will work with either board.


    Can I still get a Kameleon that has screw terminals on it like what's seen at the beginning of this thread? It's important because in this circumstance pin headers are useless to me and purchasing a separate breakout board feels like an unnecessary tax (plus increasing shipping costs to the UK as I'll need two sets of driver boards & LED's).

    You mean if you can get a Kaimana that has the terminals, Khameleon is Jasens branding of the Kaimana. The OG Kaimana (which is the one you see at the begginging of this thread) has been discontinued but you can get both the kaimana mini and breakout board as a single product here, the breakouts themselves are small and lightweight so they should not add a lot to the shipping.
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  • KunikuKuniku Joined: Posts: 347
    gahrling wrote: »
    Can I still get a Kameleon that has screw terminals on it like what's seen at the beginning of this thread? It's important because in this circumstance pin headers are useless to me and purchasing a separate breakout board feels like an unnecessary tax (plus increasing shipping costs to the UK as I'll need two sets of driver boards & LED's).

    Ah shipping stuff over here is always fun - especially from PA! I've found ordering more doesn't increase the shipping a whole lot, as none of it weighs a great deal. Unless you're ordering a second order and thus second shipping charge - that'll cost ya!

  • wigsplitterwigsplitter Joined: Posts: 135
    edited March 11
    Hey guys...... have a question for setting up an IL stick. Ok I already have the buttons, I want to make sure that I'm purchasing the correct parts. 1st (8) IL-lumination RGB 5VDC LED, 2nd (7) Paradise Kaimana 3" Wire Harness with one 9" one, 3rd the Paradise Kaimana Mini LED Driver PCB. I'm thinking that's pretty much it right? Am I missing something? Do I have to get the full size LED PCB? I know I need the 20pin ribbon. @armi0024

    thanks in advance
    Post edited by wigsplitter on
  • Bird333Bird333 Joined: Posts: 42
    Piggy backing off of that I want to do a dual mod with MC Cthulhu and Brook UFB. What Kaimana parts should I get to make it easy?
  • ninjanutrianinjanutria Joined: Posts: 2
    Hi, i got my kaimana mine and the mini breakout but well i am lost, this is my first time trying to mod something, got a qnba Q4 stick modded with a hori commander 4 pcb.

    cSfP8DE.jpg


    so it seems when i got my stick modded they add this pcb to power up the hori pcb? (i am guessing i know nothing)

    Mu5hOCk.jpg

    my q4 vcc and ground go to this little black thing along with the hori pcb...

    ADmNOQc.jpg


    my guess i can send 2 wires from vcc and gnd in the breakout into that black circuit there that is connected to the USB that should be distributing power to the circuits.

    is that correct?
  • JRDIBBSJRDIBBS Neighborhood Modder Joined: Posts: 417
    Snip

    It does look like that board has something to do with USB so taking +5V and GND from here would be valid.
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  • ninjanutrianinjanutria Joined: Posts: 2
    @JRDIBBS

    yeah, thats the case i figured out that thank you. now i have a new doubt.

    my pcb is connected to the buttons like this:

    f1HzRvA.jpg

    so...what i been told i can make a daisy chain for the GND from buttons to the kaimana breakout... should i be connecting all the ground wires in my q4 pcb to a single wire that connects to the kaimana breakout?


  • JRDIBBSJRDIBBS Neighborhood Modder Joined: Posts: 417
    @JRDIBBS

    yeah, thats the case i figured out that thank you. now i have a new doubt.

    my pcb is connected to the buttons like this:

    f1HzRvA.jpg

    so...what i been told i can make a daisy chain for the GND from buttons to the kaimana breakout... should i be connecting all the ground wires in my q4 pcb to a single wire that connects to the kaimana breakout?


    Yup you have to daisy chain the gnds in the buttons and bring a single wire to the breakout
    I mod so you can play!
    Joysticks, buttons and PCBs, all at paradisearcade.com!
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    No mod is finished until you wrangle that wiring!
  • Ssj4Crisis_XSsj4Crisis_X Battling Puddies! Joined: Posts: 110
    So im having a problem programing my Kaimana Mini LEDS.

    I'm using it on a Ps360+, mini usb plugged into the Kaimana Mini. Ive followed this video () to T and after uploading the code to the board via mini usb.... the buttons aren't lighting up properly. I'm only lighting up the 4 kicks and 4 punches. My inactive color is fine but when buttons are pushed only one LED may light up and it usually lights up on different button from the one being pushing.
    ( Arduino 1.6.5 and http://brightstick.freecade.org/ )

    //BOOT AND IDLE SEQUENCE TIMING
    #define BOOT_COLOR_DELAY 250
    #define BOOT_COMPLETE_DELAY 500
    #define MAIN_LOOP_DELAY 50
    #define IDLE_TIMEOUT_SECONDS 10
    #define IDLE_ANIMATION_DELAY 5
    #define BRIGHTNESS 1

    //LED INDEX
    #define LED_P4 0
    #define LED_P4_B 1
    #define LED_P3 4
    #define LED_P3_B 5
    #define LED_P2 8
    #define LED_P2_B 9
    #define LED_P1 12
    #define LED_P1_B 13
    #define LED_JOY 0xFF
    #define LED_K4 2
    #define LED_K4_B 3
    #define LED_K3 6
    #define LED_K3_B 7
    #define LED_K2 10
    #define LED_K2_B 11
    #define LED_K1 14
    #define LED_K1_B 15
    #define LED_SELECT 0xff
    #define LED_SELECT_B 0xff
    #define LED_HOME 0xff
    #define LED_HOME_B 0xff
    #define LED_START 0xff
    #define LED_START_B 0xff
    #define LED_COUNT 16


    Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
  • JRDIBBSJRDIBBS Neighborhood Modder Joined: Posts: 417

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

    This led order seems strange, how are the leds physically connected? This looks like:

    P4 K4 P3 K3 P2 K2 P1 K1
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    No mod is finished until you wrangle that wiring!
  • Ssj4Crisis_XSsj4Crisis_X Battling Puddies! Joined: Posts: 110
    JRDIBBS wrote: »

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

    This led order seems strange, how are the leds physically connected? This looks like:

    P4 K4 P3 K3 P2 K2 P1 K1

    That is correct, should I change it?
  • JRDIBBSJRDIBBS Neighborhood Modder Joined: Posts: 417
    JRDIBBS wrote: »

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

    This led order seems strange, how are the leds physically connected? This looks like:

    P4 K4 P3 K3 P2 K2 P1 K1

    That is correct, should I change it?

    I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that @Jasen Hicks prepared his code generator for a specific layout
    @Kuniku - Can you tell us how you have everything connected. This will help us, help you, write the code. OR you could just wire it like a PFS2 and be done with it:

    K4-K3-K2-K1-JOY-P1-P2-P3-P4-START-HOME-SELECT

    If you can rewire it like so and test if works then we know what happened, remember to also regenerate the code for a valid test. I have a J2 code base but I need to revisit it to clean since I've only been working on animations.
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    No mod is finished until you wrangle that wiring!
  • Ssj4Crisis_XSsj4Crisis_X Battling Puddies! Joined: Posts: 110
    edited March 21
    JRDIBBS wrote: »

    This led order seems strange, how are the leds physically connected? This looks like:

    P4 K4 P3 K3 P2 K2 P1 K1

    That is correct, should I change it?


    I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that @Jasen Hicks prepared his code generator for a specific layout

    Switched it up and reuploaded the file. Just trying to have the lights stay yellow and when pressed turn orange. What i get is the L kick orange, and the rest are yellow. When i press l punch, the l kick changes colors but none of the other buttons respond. Also I have silencers in my buttons... could that cause a problem? I was wondering around paradise arcade and notice they have some different ones for LEDS, i have these [Link. Assuming im going to need something like this? [Link

    //BOOT AND IDLE SEQUENCE TIMING
    #define BOOT_COLOR_DELAY 250
    #define BOOT_COMPLETE_DELAY 500
    #define MAIN_LOOP_DELAY 50
    #define IDLE_TIMEOUT_SECONDS 10
    #define IDLE_ANIMATION_DELAY 5
    #define BRIGHTNESS 1

    //LED INDEX
    #define LED_P4 14
    #define LED_P4_B 15
    #define LED_P3 12
    #define LED_P3_B 13
    #define LED_P2 10
    #define LED_P2_B 11
    #define LED_P1 8
    #define LED_P1_B 9
    #define LED_JOY 0xFF
    #define LED_K4 0
    #define LED_K4_B 1
    #define LED_K3 2
    #define LED_K3_B 3
    #define LED_K2 4
    #define LED_K2_B 5
    #define LED_K1 6
    #define LED_K1_B 7
    #define LED_SELECT 0xFF
    #define LED_SELECT_B 0xFF
    #define LED_HOME 0xFF
    #define LED_HOME_B 0xFF
    #define LED_START 0XFF
    #define LED_START_B 0xFF
    #define LED_COUNT 16
    Post edited by Ssj4Crisis_X on
  • JRDIBBSJRDIBBS Neighborhood Modder Joined: Posts: 417
    JRDIBBS wrote: »

    This led order seems strange, how are the leds physically connected? This looks like:

    P4 K4 P3 K3 P2 K2 P1 K1

    That is correct, should I change it?


    I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that @Jasen Hicks prepared his code generator for a specific layout

    Switched it up and reuploaded the file. Just trying to have the lights stay yellow and when pressed turn orange. What i get is the lp orange, and the rest are yellow. When i press m punch, the l punch changes colors but none of the other buttons respond.

    //BOOT AND IDLE SEQUENCE TIMING
    #define BOOT_COLOR_DELAY 250
    #define BOOT_COMPLETE_DELAY 500
    #define MAIN_LOOP_DELAY 50
    #define IDLE_TIMEOUT_SECONDS 10
    #define IDLE_ANIMATION_DELAY 5
    #define BRIGHTNESS 1

    //LED INDEX
    #define LED_P4 14
    #define LED_P4_B 15
    #define LED_P3 12
    #define LED_P3_B 13
    #define LED_P2 10
    #define LED_P2_B 11
    #define LED_P1 8
    #define LED_P1_B 9
    #define LED_JOY 0xFF
    #define LED_K4 0
    #define LED_K4_B 1
    #define LED_K3 2
    #define LED_K3_B 3
    #define LED_K2 4
    #define LED_K2_B 5
    #define LED_K1 6
    #define LED_K1_B 7
    #define LED_SELECT 0xFF
    #define LED_SELECT_B 0xFF
    #define LED_HOME 0xFF
    #define LED_HOME_B 0xFF
    #define LED_START 0XFF
    #define LED_START_B 0xFF
    #define LED_COUNT 16

    You want for all buttons to turn orange when any button is pressed?
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    No mod is finished until you wrangle that wiring!
  • Ssj4Crisis_XSsj4Crisis_X Battling Puddies! Joined: Posts: 110
    edited March 21


    Yes, i didnt realize you made a post. I updated my original post to give more details on whats going on. I think it might be a silencer issue?

    Post edited by Ssj4Crisis_X on
  • JRDIBBSJRDIBBS Neighborhood Modder Joined: Posts: 417

    Yes, i didnt realize you made a post. I updated my original post to give more details on whats going on. I think it might be a silencer issue?

    Just to discard it can you remove the silencers and test? It could be that the light is bleeding to the other button but we wont know until you remove the silencer pads.
    I mod so you can play!
    Joysticks, buttons and PCBs, all at paradisearcade.com!
    The Man @ MightyJRMods- PM me for fixes and mods in the USA www.mightyjrmods.com
    Member of the Church of Dremel and the Cult of Hot Glue.
    No mod is finished until you wrangle that wiring!
  • Ssj4Crisis_XSsj4Crisis_X Battling Puddies! Joined: Posts: 110
    JRDIBBS wrote: »

    Yes, i didnt realize you made a post. I updated my original post to give more details on whats going on. I think it might be a silencer issue?

    Just to discard it can you remove the silencers and test? It could be that the light is bleeding to the other button but we wont know until you remove the silencer pads.

    Will do!
  • KunikuKuniku Joined: Posts: 347
    I'm not sure silencer pads make a difference, I'm using the OBSC buttons with the silencers in and don't have any issues with bleeding colours, all of my issues were caused my either wiring or coding problems.


    While chiming in - quick question of my own:

    Since I haven't managed to find a slip ring type solution to my snapping balltop LED wires problem (I considered a 4 pole 2.5mm audio jack, but I don't think there is any way I'd be able to hook that all up and fit it all inside the hollow JLF shaft with my meagre skills/tools)

    So I've considered, instead, swapping out the Balltop LED, and hooking one of these in underneath the baseplate:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EXV1QS2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=31K5YFQZX8XRD&coliid=I13W2QKFNO2P4B

    Can this be hooked up to the kaimana? Or do I need to go back to finding a solution to the Balltop LED problem?

    (Other solutions are just buy a whole load of the RGB LEDs and just swap them out whenever they snap, or buy this and switch from JLF to JLW which I don't really want to do - I'm told this shaft wont fit in a JLF)
  • JRDIBBSJRDIBBS Neighborhood Modder Joined: Posts: 417
    Kuniku wrote: »
    I'm not sure silencer pads make a difference, I'm using the OBSC buttons with the silencers in and don't have any issues with bleeding colours, all of my issues were caused my either wiring or coding problems.


    While chiming in - quick question of my own:

    Since I haven't managed to find a slip ring type solution to my snapping balltop LED wires problem (I considered a 4 pole 2.5mm audio jack, but I don't think there is any way I'd be able to hook that all up and fit it all inside the hollow JLF shaft with my meagre skills/tools)

    So I've considered, instead, swapping out the Balltop LED, and hooking one of these in underneath the baseplate:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EXV1QS2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=31K5YFQZX8XRD&coliid=I13W2QKFNO2P4B

    Can this be hooked up to the kaimana? Or do I need to go back to finding a solution to the Balltop LED problem?

    (Other solutions are just buy a whole load of the RGB LEDs and just swap them out whenever they snap, or buy this and switch from JLF to JLW which I don't really want to do - I'm told this shaft wont fit in a JLF)

    The neopixel rings are too large for what you are attempting, plus they work as individual leds so a 12 pixel ring would be adding 12 leds to your setup. I use a 12 pixel ring to test animations!

    Now that you put that ebay link I went through and searched for slipring, im not sure how expensive this would be for you but it looks like it would work:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Capsule-Slip-Ring-300Rpm-6-way-22mm-2A-360-Rotation-AWG28-/162155007007?hash=item25c1310c1f:g:-a8AAOSwRoxXnwqy
    I mod so you can play!
    Joysticks, buttons and PCBs, all at paradisearcade.com!
    The Man @ MightyJRMods- PM me for fixes and mods in the USA www.mightyjrmods.com
    Member of the Church of Dremel and the Cult of Hot Glue.
    No mod is finished until you wrangle that wiring!
  • KunikuKuniku Joined: Posts: 347
    Ah wasn't sure if the neopixel ring would fit in the gap between the plate and the JLF...

    Would that slip ring just "hang" underneath the hollow shaft? I figured I'd need something that would at least "plug in" to the bottom of the shaft? But its cheap enough that providing I can get hold of another RGB LED from paradise arcade without having to get a mortgage to pay for shipping to the UK it could be worth trying...
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