The Wrestling Thread 2014: NXT is STACKED!

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  • 4neqs4neqs thick_thighs Joined: Posts: 9,400 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Batista in the GoG movie

    http://go.ign.com/1hdCKZV
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    Yay! Another year of disappointment, with a bright spark, that will eventually get retconned a month after it happens! :D
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  • D'Nyc3D'Nyc3 *Insert Star* Joined: Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭
    2013 wasn't too bad........better than 2011....
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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 1
    2014 will be the the year of Roman Reigns

    Would not be surprised if at XXXI, Reigns is the guy who beats Undertaker.

    You know with San Francisco having a ton of samoans, and making it his "home town" it could definitely be something. Especially since Undertaker respects the samoans.

    I see big things for both the shield and wyatts

    People are still clamoring for Shield vs Wyatts

    Start building it now.

    Still the hypest moment of 2013
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  • Reason4UReason4U Joined: Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭✭
    2014 will be the fall of Del Rio.

    What a failed experiment he turned out to be. Now that there's only one main belt his inability to stand out will make him a constant jobber.

    Especially when the Sheild breaks up and each of them becomes stars. Ambrose and Rollins I have almost more faith in getting over as singles than Reigns.

    Bray seems to be getting a push soon so he should be above Rio as well as Bryan who hopefully stays a face.

    Anyone else ya'll can think will drop off in 2014?
    You ain't SHIT Wesker!!! - Dormmammu
    MK9-Sub Zero, Sonya VF-Goh, Brad Tekken-Lee, Hwo,Paul,Leo
    SFxT-Cody/Poison
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird Legend of Revengeance Joined: Posts: 10,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can see Ryback falling further in 2014. He's already in a bad place teaming with Axel. I can see it just getting worse for him from there.
  • PsychobluePsychoblue the Conductor of the Hype Train Joined: Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭✭
    Hard to think of who can drop off when there's really no one left TO drop off. After Summerslam, they did a fine job trying to bury EVERYBODY that wasn't Orton or Cena.

    The verdict is out on Bryan joining the Wyatt family, but there's a huge laundry list of former world champions on the roster right now who are doing jack-all, many of which haven't even hit 35 yet. When you have that many former world title holders on the roster and yet your main feud right now is Cena v Orton for the 3rd time in 5 years...you've got problems.
  • Apathy-IncApathy-Inc Die white girls Joined: Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭✭
    Bryan will be fine. I can't think of anyone people wouldn't cheer him over right now aside from maybe Punk.
    Would anyone honestly care if he beat up Kofi or Miz or any other midcard face?

    Punk had to mock 2 dead men and beat up fans to get any boos at all and Bryan is quite a bit more over than Punk is.

    I'm hoping that with only 1 main event title they start focusing a bit more on rivalries and storylines instead of "insert random star into slot A for title match" like they've been doing.

    Or better yet have more people in the title picture at once. They haven't done a lot of triple threats or 4ways for a belt in a while and the Chamber seems to just be going through the motions the last few years where you knew only 1-2 people had a chance at winning.
  • janoDXjanoDX Nonon #1 fan Joined: Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 1


    Happy new year, here's some bork.

    Extra:

    Some botchtista.

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  • HD-ManHD-Man Big Apple 3 A.M Joined: Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How long til the IWC turns on Batista after he gets Bryan's "spot" at Wrestlemania?

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  • janoDXjanoDX Nonon #1 fan Joined: Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HD-Man wrote: »
    How long til the IWC turns on Batista after he gets Bryan's "spot" at Wrestlemania?

    First week before 20 minutes.

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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unifying the belt was a crappy snap decision that was used to pop a buyrate for a ppv that wwe decided to build shitty.

    It should have been saved for summerslam or night of champions. Instead what happened was opportunities for the others were dropped.

    I have no trust in wwe creating multiple feuds featuring top guys without revolving around a title.

    World Champ John Cena was cool. I mean he was away from the wwe title and then he got to wrestle different guys.

    I definitely saw guys above the ic/us level like Cesaro, Swagger, Sandow, Ziggler, Cody, Ryback, and others winning the world title. Now nothing, to ascend.

    The ic/us belts need to stay and they should not be unified. Let them get defended and have feuds centered around being champion. None of this "i am champ, now you are" merry go round shit.

    Unless Heyman, Uncle Zeb, and Pat Patterson become head of creative then wwe is lost.

    Hell HHH, Dusty, and Billy Kidman run nxt and a lot of the roster has their own feuds and characters.

    Not dealing with egos or big cntracts HHH makes a good show.

    Hell wait until The rumble. Sheamus, Jericho, Christian, RVD, Batista, Undertaker. All can return to tv. Heck maybe even the return of hbk. Who knows?

    With main event guys like Show, Mysterio, and Del Rio being buried now. It just goes to show you how the one title can ruin shit with a shit booking team.

    I would not be mad if wwe had good booking.

    Zeb and Heyman are there. Give them the book until wrestlemania.

  • LantisLantis Can you fly, Bobby? Joined: Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Batista's last heel run was OK. Entrance was top notch trolling:

    There's no holding me back
    I'm not driven by fear
    I'm just driven by anger
    And you're under attack
  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It sucks that they are building him as a face on his return

    Maybe he returns as an asshole talking about being a better mma fighter than brock lesnar and a bigger movie star than the rock. Talking about being better than both Orton and Cena who are stuck wrestling for these stupid people because they can't do anything else.

    That return promo would he rocking
  • D'Nyc3D'Nyc3 *Insert Star* Joined: Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭
    Batista vs Brock would make more sense lol
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  • HD-ManHD-Man Big Apple 3 A.M Joined: Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I know what to do with Curtis Axel, give him Lance Storm's "Boring" gimmick. Maybe his lack of charisma can be an asset

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  • Apathy-IncApathy-Inc Die white girls Joined: Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭✭
    dab00g wrote: »
    Unifying the belt was a crappy snap decision.
    I have no trust in wwe creating multiple feuds featuring top guys without revolving around a title.

    World Champ John Cena was cool. I mean he was away from the wwe title and then he got to wrestle different guys.

    I definitely saw guys above the ic/us level like Cesaro, Swagger, Sandow, Ziggler, Cody, Ryback, and others winning the world title. Now nothing, to ascend.


    With main event guys like Show, Mysterio, and Del Rio being buried now. It just goes to show you how the one title can ruin shit with a shit booking team.
    I strongly disagree about this being a "one title ruins everything" scenario.

    For starters, they've had the 1 title for what, 3 weeks now? It has yet to be defended. It's too soon to say that it's ruining anything yet. Maybe wait a couple ppvs to see how it goes before we declare everything sucks forever.
    Mind you, I don't have a lot of faith either, but that's not hard evidence and I'd rather wait and see.

    Midcard guys will do the same thing they've always done: sink or swim on their own merits. The WHC did nothing to elevate anyone, especially in the last 4 years or so. It was barely even a prop and pretty much no one who won it moved on into the Main Event scene immediately after holding it.

    As far as the 3 main event guys:

    Show has always flip flopped in and out of the main event depending on who was hurt and when. He'll be back in it eventually. Personally, I hope it's a while because he bores the shit out of me.
    Mysterio is too injury prone now to be trusted with a singles anything, so I actually think that's really smart to keep him in a tag team where he's protected and won't ruin too much when he eventually blows out another knee.
    Del Rio is a failed experiment as far as I'm concerned. Aside from his debut I've never given a crap about him. If being a good worker was all it required to be in the Main Event then I can think of at least 6 other guys who should be ahead of him.
  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 1
    I think the booking team sucks, while wwe right now has a ton of guys wgo are over despite the bookers.

    If they have Heyman and Zeb book like they did that one raw, we could have greatness

    Remember bulldog/bret main eventing summerslam while savage, warrior, and flair Were in the midcard?

    I really liked the brand split before. ECW was the best wrestling brand. Punk, Edge, Mysterio, Undertaker smackdown.

    But the problem now is the damn log jam.

    Attitude Era had distribution among all the titles.

    WWF, IC, Euro, Hardcore, and Tag

    But then you had guys who could be put in to challenge giving so many matches.

    Look at 99-01
    Wwf titlle scene consisted of
    Kane, Hhh, taker, austin, rock, mankind, angle, big show

    Ic
    Benoit, Shamrock, billy gunn, jericho, godfather, jarrett, hhh, rock, owen, rikishi, val venis, chyna
    Euro
    Test, eddie guerrero, saturn, d'lo, hhh, x-pac, al snow, mark henry, shane-o-mac
    Hardcore
    Blackman, snow, road dogg, bossman, raven, hardcore holly, crash, stevie richards, tazz, rhyno.

    Tag
    Enc, apa, dudleys, hardyz, too cool, nao, rtc, the hollys,

    Then you had intermingling of divisions with the tag/euro/hardcore divisions

    AlsO guys fighting for the ic like jericho, eddie, benoit, sometimes going for the wwf belt

    Look one main title can work if WWe chose

    Look we could have a theory tier list of
    Wwe title:
    Cena, Orton, Punk, Bryan, Big Show, Rey Mysterio, Sheamus, ADR, mark henry
    IC
    big E, fandango, ziggler, sandow, miz, brodus, kofi, christian, Cesaro, cody, heath slater, ryback, axel, barrett
    Us:
    Ambrose, tensai, khali, santino, Ryder, R-truth, sin cara, Swagger, tyson kidd, hawkins, yoshi, justin gabriel.

    Tag: well for now the tag division is the best division in wwe. And wwe has the best tag division in wrestling

    Rhodes bros, shield, wyatts, usos, ptp, los matadores, rybaxel, santino/khali, 3MB, kidd/gabriel, truth and consequences,

    Look at that. I just gave Big E and Ambrose a bunch of challengers

    I just filled up the dance card for the wwe champ.

    Jeez that isn't even all of the roster. You then have Bo, Sami, Neville, Ascencion, Corey Graves, mason ryan, and others in nxt ready to get called up

    Then you have guys wwe doesn't use like yoshi, alex riley, jtg, big zeke, camacho.

    Man wwe sure has a lot of guys
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    D'Nyc3 wrote: »
    2013 wasn't too bad........better than 2011....

    But Rock came back in 2011.


    I can't hate on Show. The guy can move fast for his size and age. It's just that nobody can wrestle him. He's too big. He's also a jobber, so people like puny orton have to wear him down with strikes and submissions (and the occasional irish whip into something), which for most people is not fun to watch. Not his fault WWE isn't pitting him against stronger superstars like Cesaro or Big E; people he should be losing to.
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  • toddler316toddler316 Drunk Shit Hustler Joined: Posts: 5,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 1
    New thread needs this.



    Also i noticed no one had posted anything about Chris Jericho's new podcast.

    http://podcastone.com/Talk-Is-Jericho

    The two parter with Edge were great shows.

    One of the notable points was them talking about Cena not burying Nexus and how he chose to do it anyway at a ppv.
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Baggage Handlers.... Joined: Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Last week The Wrestling Observer reported that a WrestleMania 30 main event of John Cena vs Bray Wyatt had been discussed by the WWE creative team, however, PWInsider.com is now reporting that is not the case.

    At one point awhile back, John Cena vs Bray Wyatt was talked about for WrestleMania, with the idea being that Wyatt would win the Royal Rumble match then challenge Cena for the World Title at 'Mania.

    This was all discussed, however, prior to WWE deciding to unify the World and WWE Titles, and once that happened things of course changed.

    The current backstage feeling in WWE is that Batista will win the Royal Rumble match and go on to challenge Randy Orton for the WWE World Title at WrestleMania. This doesn't mean that we won't see Cena vs Wyatt at some point down the line, but the match is not likely for WrestleMania.

    Not sure that I'd like Batisita winning the Royal Rumble................
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    Why not Geese Pants?

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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Batista/Orton is a match we have seen

    Batista/Lesnar is better

    Orton being champ is lame as fuck.

    Cena being wwe champ is lame

    Punk vs Bryan wwe title is flat

    Orton vs Lesnar with Brock winning and facing off with the rumble winner Batista seems better, but that match needs no title

    I just hope cena/orton go on last so neither can enter the rumble

    Hell rock being number 29/30 and winning leading to rock vs brock 2, at xxx would be the biggest money match
  • Reason4UReason4U Joined: Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭✭
    All these issues are caused by title unification. I said this months ago that it'll lead to nothing more than burials and lame stories.

    I forgot who tried to convince me this could work but my response was always the same. In order to have one belt with this much talent you need GREAT bookers. Not good, not decent, GREAT.

    WWE doesn't have average bookers. These dudes are ASS.
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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The world title and a soft brand split with smackdown being made important again could be good. Really the dropping of the world title while cena was building it up, and he loses.

    Does orton have that much pull? I mean Cena for the first time in their feud put him over clean.

    If cena can use duct tape and it be called genius, orton can use handcuffs and be called deviously smart.

    Orton as the champ they are portraying him as basically hhh's bitch boy sucks. I mean dude doesn't even get promos. Last good promo he cut was as the arrogant bastard talking about men being jealous and girls eye fucking him. And that was back in november.

    Besides that it has been about "triple h says" "face of the company" "respect triple h and stephanie" "don't talk to them like that"

    Wtf

    It is like he is gerald brisco kissing vince's ass
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  • HD-ManHD-Man Big Apple 3 A.M Joined: Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i like that short, brief promo Orton gave a few weeks ago before facing Bryan where he told every one to bend over and kiss his ass. It was decent by his standards

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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think hhh de-unifies the belts the same way kurt lost the eurocontinental title
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    @makmak and anyone else in Manila, there's a joshi/puro event in three weeks. I'm not sure if I can go

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    I say right now we book the road to wrestlemania.

    Rules: use current roster, but take into consideration political power. Contracts. Current pushes. And who is over. Not with you, but with the crowd
  • Reason4UReason4U Joined: Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭✭
    dab00g wrote: »
    I think hhh de-unifies the belts the same way kurt lost the eurocontinental title

    I've been thinking that as well but been too afraid to jinx it.

    It makes too much sense to have two belts so I'm sure they'll find a dumber way.
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    It just makes sense to have one belt once hhh takes over completely.

    HHH is booking NXT using guys he wants to use. I think Swagger and Cesaro would be getting better pushes with HHH apparently being a big fan.

    Hero's shoot is good
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    4neqs wrote: »
    @makmak and anyone else in Manila, there's a joshi/puro event in three weeks. I'm not sure if I can go

    https://www.facebook.com/ProWrestlingPhilippines?fref=ts

    OMFG! When's this? What arena and where to buy tickets?
    It has to start somewhere
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    What better place than here
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    Just try to get joshi girls out of their forced lesbian relationships
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    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH





    makmak!!! wrote: »
    4neqs wrote: »
    @makmak and anyone else in Manila, there's a joshi/puro event in three weeks. I'm not sure if I can go

    https://www.facebook.com/ProWrestlingPhilippines?fref=ts

    OMFG! When's this? What arena and where to buy tickets?



    Ynares on Jan 25
    Tickets here http://www.ticketnet.com.ph/Joshi-+-Jam-Manila-Ynares-Sports-Arena-Pasig/EventDetails/126
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    WWE has never been very good at using titles to advance story lines. For a long while the Tag titles were used just as a cheap ploy and given to rivals who were going to have a PPV main event (Remember HBK/Cena as champs) The US title is around the waist of one of the sheild guys, but no one is even trying to go for that title. I hate to look back to the JCP days, but I remember the Midnight Express and the ROad Warriors Feuding over the United States Tag Team belts. The tension felt real, the Road Warriors made you believe they wanted those secondary tag belts. Sometimes you don't need a complex story line. It is enough if one guy has a title and the other guy wants it bad and makes you feel like he wants it.
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    This needs to be Cesaro's year. He's too good not to be positioned front and center.
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    Brodus' other heel theme (Rip It Up) is better than this one.
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    Big E, Cesaro and Bryan (after wedding) will shine this year.

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    dab00g wrote: »
    Big E doing the social media thing better than ryder
    Ryder who?
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    Reigns vs Batista, with reigns usurping the batista bomb

    Plus batista was trained by the samoans...
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    They could play with Reigns being the only one to destroy Lesnar because of the Spear and the medical history of Lesnar on the abdominal area.

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    janoDX wrote: »
    They could play with Reigns being the only one to destroy Lesnar because of the Spear and the medical history of Lesnar on the abdominal area.

    That actually makes sense. So much so, that I highly doubt it would ever come up.
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