Death Cargo - A Horror Story.

gl3nniumgl3nnium (S)LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINEJoined: Posts: 28 ✭✭
Hello to all of you. I am posting here to set down honestly and accurately a very bad experience I had with a game publisher from Europe. I only ask that you draw your own conclusions and urge you to consider your options carefully when (if) you decide to deal with this company.
I wanted to try something different and support a new game developer, so I pre-ordered a fighting game called 'Death Cargo' from a company called 'Necrostorm' who before then, had only made low budget splatter movies.

To cut a very long story short, the timeline goes something like this.
Mid December 2013..preordered the game.
January 2014..awaited the promised game demo so I could sample the game I had bought...it never appeared...technical excuses given.
February/March 2014..awaited arrival of my game by mail. For some reason they did not do digital download at all. Ive since come to realise it was because they didn't yet have the technical know-how or capacity to do that. Game never arrived. Necrostrom began to say "Hey it's not us..it's customs'..it's your country's fault."

Other's began to surface one the website forums with the same issue from many countries. Constantly I would read Necrostorm's replies saying 'Hey it's only 20 people out or 3000 that didn't get it"...but that just didn't seem to ring true for me.
So..next a few weeks later Necrostorm say "we are supporting you....we will download the dvd to our servers and you can download." So the date for that download arrives (I think it was march 14 but im not totally sure on that)...anyway...the download never appears...technical excuses given.
So next they say..."We want to support you...we will give you special exclusive content to download...we will send another copy"....I can tell you right now that the second copy never arrived.

By this time the 'brawl chat' section of their forum is full of angry and upset people. Most of their comments are deleted and edited out. One very unhappy kid was actually threatened with a 'defamation' suit....the poor kid was clearly very shocked and frightened by this....shortly after that the chat was closed to all.

So...next they say.."don't worry..we are stepping up production of the digital download version just for you 20 people..we want to support you...we are spending 4000 euros to make that happen"....as of today the digital download does not exist. Also a company spending 4000 euros on 20 people clearly doesn't make much sense when all youd have to do for those 20 people is Fed-Ex and parcel track the game and they would receive it within 48 hours...nothing about their actions seemed to make any sense.

So I look online for any screenshots or gamplay video from the finished game (not the beta demo)..there's virtually nothing..to answer this Necrostorm say..."sure the game is released and many people have it..but you aren't allowed to post video footage...it's Italian law (yes the company is from Italy).

By this time im thinking...I am the most stupid ass-hole on planet earth for putting up with this.
By this time I have sent many e-mails...Always their reply is...."but look at how we are supporting you...we made extra content...we stepped up production of digital download, we did this, we did that"...and by this time I can't figure out what's real and what's an empty promise.

They didn't seem to understand that all of those things they were saying meant absolutely nothing to someone who never even received the game.
So finally (maybe 2 days ago) I sent an email suggesting that an investigation into their business practices wouldn't be a bad idea.
Well...funnily enough, after saying that...they demonstrated that while they were terrible and game manufacture and distribution...they were apparently very skilful at covering their own ass....To their credit I received a refund within minutes (26 euros)....but....they also informed me that I had been blacklisted for my comment.
So..naturally I was curious to see what they had done.....so...heres what also happened within minutes.......website membership revoked, facebook page blocked, lifetime ban on their products enforced...etc etc....and I'm thinking "jesus...they clearly must have had a lot of practice at this"

I posted all this because I wanted to share my experience without it being blocked or censored by them. I wanted a neutral forum to tell people about this.
There will probably be a lot of people who will say..hey that's not my experience..and that's fine..all I'm saying is that this was mine...and it was fucking horrible.

I honestly still don't know if the game exists...apparently people in Germany got it but I still can't confirm that.

Like I said to them in my final e-mail to them "I wasn't some troll...I was a fan."

I'm not going to make any additional comments or try to get in an insult...that's not my way...and if some day a package from them does arrive I will do the right thing and sent it back unopened..because I have been refunded, Im not a freeloader or an opportunist...I chose to live my life honestly. Also I don't want to play a game made by a company that seems to despise me.

So..there it is...you have the facts...and you can make you're own decision.
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  • WTF-AKUMA-HAXWTF-AKUMA-HAX SSJizzle XVampire G.Jr Joined: Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Necrostorm still in development:


    WHY?!

    From our thread out there on the game, top comment. We figured the company didn't know what they were doing or at least, were in way over their heads, some guy even coming by to yell at everybody for saying anything negative towards the game - he himself strung along on their credo that the game is coming soon, you just wait and see...

    For anyone wanting to play the game, seems you would have saved a lot of trouble finding somewhere else with the thing at all, if you were still willing to try the game out, since going directly to the company looks like this.

    A true learning experience for all.
    You wouldn't even understand if I told you.
    People will forget what you said.
    People will forget what you did.
    But, people will never forget how you made them feel.
  • CryohCryoh Rock Shock Thunderous Beat Joined: Posts: 9,369 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's a Death Cargo thread in Fighting Game Discussion, you should post your comment in there.

    http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/133655/death-cargo#latest

    Sucks that you got yanked around like this, but the whole situation had the stench of general fuckery to begin with.
    NickRocks: Magneto...fuck magneto sellout pussy whiteknight puts himself on a team with all girls. Like that boy on the cheerleadin squad, hanging out with mad girls but sleeping with none.
  • gl3nniumgl3nnium (S)LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Joined: Posts: 28 ✭✭
    edited May 4
    Anti_4it wrote: »
    gl3nnium
    Do You think that Necrostorm is frauds? That is not so. They refund money to my friend, refund money to Cathrie, refund money to You. Yes. maybe they lied once.
    Maybe they are liars. But not frauds.
    They return the money for the product to everyone who wants it. At the same time, and they lose their money.

    Ahh Anti_4it..i remember you..we talked in the Necrostorm Forum before it was shut down. Mate...did you read what I wrote.....At no point did I use the word 'Fraud' or actually pass any kind of judgement (interesting that you believe them to be liars...I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and simply say that they were in over their heads and made promises that they didn't know how to deliver...I think the label 'liar' might be a bit strong..incompetent would be more accurate).
    I just simply relayed what happened and left it up to the reader to decide.
    I'm glad they refunded those other guys you mentioned..as I recall they were very upset. Also from memory you didn't seem too happy either..so I'm a bit confused by your reaction now.
    If they actually get the digital download out on the 5th then good for them...they promised me so many dates in the past so maybe you can excuse me for being sceptical.....
    Anyway..I posted this so I can put it to rest. I have no interest in hearing about that game...and to be honest...I regret ever dealing with that company.
    Also im not sure why you posted a pic of the cover art...to be honest id rather you remove it...but unlike Necrostorm I would never delete or edit out someones post because I didn't like it. (in the same way they did to us- actually your post just vanished..i think it got flagged as spam..sorry that wasn't me - at least I don't think it was??!!??).

    Believe it or not I was one of the guys posting about this game to other sites to support them and to get people interested to buy it..I was also one of the guys giving feedback and suggestions on the site (some of them were even implemented into the game..well, at least that's what they said..but I don't know what to believe anymore)....So you see...I wasn't just some troll complaining about random shit....in my case, they fucked over one of their biggest supporters. (and to me, that's the worst part).

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  • owattjacobowattjacob Joined: Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 4
    THAT PRODUCT PLACEMENT. :lol:

    Too good. Made a rather fucked up thread to something hilarious.


    *edit* dammit that post got taken down. Got a screenshot of it atleast but don't know if it's appropriate to show again since it got taken down.
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  • gl3nniumgl3nnium (S)LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Joined: Posts: 28 ✭✭
    owattjacob wrote: »
    THAT PRODUCT PLACEMENT. :lol:

    Too good. Made a rather fucked up thread to something hilarious.

    Well it did seem inappropriate all things considered. Not sure what part was fucked up...actually I take that back..the whole situation was fucked up.

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  • angelpalmangelpalm Joined: Posts: 13,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish I could find my post from like 4 years ago that said these dudes were making fake games lol.

    Too think anyone would be dumb enough to pay for this lol.

    For all that they claim to be women’s natural allies, these schmucks don’t have the first clue about female psychology, or they wouldn’t need to turn to feminism as a sort of invisible date-rape drug. To these self-centered bitter little men bouncing around in their baby bubbles, it’s not really about empathizing with women at all, because they obviously don’t understand how women operate; it’s about scoring with women. It is in this sense that male feminists are more misogynistic than, well, you know, the misogynists.

    Spoiler:
  • Anti_4itAnti_4it Joined: Posts: 4
    edited May 4
    Cryoh wrote: »
    Anti_4it wrote: »
    gl3nnium
    Do You think that Necrostorm is frauds? That is not so. They refund money to my friend, refund money to Cathrie, refund money to You. Yes. maybe they lied once.
    Maybe they are liars. But not frauds.
    They return the money for the product to everyone who wants it. At the same time, and they lose their money.
    Digital version will released tommorow:

    Hmm...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

    I don't understand You. I just want to say "We will see tommorow". I bought the game, but still no parcel.
    Necrostorm write in their site and facebook(!). Because I think that it's more that news in style "We will released digital version next week".
    Just will see.

    gl3nnium
    Yes, I'm the guy from their website.
    First of all I would like to say - I'm not trying to defend them. They changed many times the release date. I just hope that the game will be tomorrow. If - no, I myself will assume that this is all some kind of nonsense.
    But I do not understand - if the game is a forgery. Why would they do it? We have seen betas, as well as can refund the money for the game. I do not think that there is at least share of fraud.

    standing420
    If that is true, can You please show some screens or video for our topic? If game is real (and I still think that it's real) - we want to see it. Please.
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  • Hatred EdgeHatred Edge Strongest in Iron Arena Joined: Posts: 12,627 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What? The 3 chicks who all have the same exact sized breasts weren't the reason you bought the game?
    Get ready for the next battle...
  • WTF-AKUMA-HAXWTF-AKUMA-HAX SSJizzle XVampire G.Jr Joined: Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    petran79 wrote: »
    that marketing.....

    The other 6 characters are complete, we only need to implement the deathrips of the other characters.
    We will release MANY other playable characters, so they are not more "main, and we don't know the order of their releasing. We could also release new playable character, never revealed, before their release.
    We will decide Soon
    Hello Necrostorm

    Stop waking up Necro Magnostorm, that's bad and you should feel bad. Its so laggy that you can actually block after not ending the super early to be safer, and still not be punished. AKA, you did your super. They knew you were going to do that. They blocked the whole thing, then go to punish immediately, and you are still allowed to block, fuck outta here :bluu:

    Oh yeah, right.

    Please consider a new character. "Lewise Cyphor"

    Yes, that might be a misnomer, alternate spelling for Lucifer. It fits this dark bloody gore nightmare theme of the game. With an edge.

    Also like some of your characters in the Death Cargo game, which sounds like an airplane zombie thing but whatever, he might be some Asexual, Homosexual, HomosexualEX, or like that cover art guy - "That's a guy?! Why does he look like a girl" with genitalia where there should be the other one or not that one.

    I look forward to beating up Lewise Cyphor in Death Cargo with the rest of you fans of the game in this thread,

    I can't wait to be blacklisted with all you guys
    I mean I can't wait to play DEATH CARGO: DIGITAL EDITION with all you guys :tup:

    Day 1!
    +5 months,
    in Alpha.
    You wouldn't even understand if I told you.
    People will forget what you said.
    People will forget what you did.
    But, people will never forget how you made them feel.
  • phantasyphantasy Smash Journeyman Joined: Posts: 7,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yo whens the digital release
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  • WTF-AKUMA-HAXWTF-AKUMA-HAX SSJizzle XVampire G.Jr Joined: Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wolfkiller's quote from back in the day:
    This thread is DiGiorno
    Oh shit, because "its not delivery..."

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    You wouldn't even understand if I told you.
    People will forget what you said.
    People will forget what you did.
    But, people will never forget how you made them feel.
  • Rhio2kRhio2k Senior Member Joined: Posts: 9,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    phantasy wrote: »
    yo whens the digital release


    To quote Colleen from WB's Road Rovers cartoon

    "The morning of June 11th, 2870."
    Roger: Well, Anita's pregnant, and-
    Cruella: Well, what can I say? Accidents will happen.
    Roger: We're having puppies, too.
    Cruella: *Gasp* Puppies!? *Leer* My, you have been a busy boy!
  • angelpalmangelpalm Joined: Posts: 13,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    God dammit, has no one seen the Transporter?
    For all that they claim to be women’s natural allies, these schmucks don’t have the first clue about female psychology, or they wouldn’t need to turn to feminism as a sort of invisible date-rape drug. To these self-centered bitter little men bouncing around in their baby bubbles, it’s not really about empathizing with women at all, because they obviously don’t understand how women operate; it’s about scoring with women. It is in this sense that male feminists are more misogynistic than, well, you know, the misogynists.

    Spoiler:
  • takinflighttakinflight Victory Declaration Joined: Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭
    "........sceptical"
    E3 1999 Staples Center: Immediately after Capcoms Alpha 3 tournament, which we apparently just missed....2 friends and I line up to the left of the main stage, hop on that alpha tre, we take almost a good 30 games straight from group of East Asian players.
    Its after a 22 hit Akuma tatsu juggle to end 1st match, the Japanese guy on P2, looks over and says " Damn its like that?" as I jump on, Im laughing quietly shrugging my shoulders. My friend goes "Hell ya fool! Wattup!? " and begins full up-rock, windmill to continuation and then pops back up in a bboy stance. Asian press chick/gf with them takes a couple pics of us and a couple of them and us. Later asks if we knew the guys we just beat...get this......Japans 2-8 aka Worlds 2-?? at that time? GTFO! i didnt follow any tourney shit, back then. We all laughed with a so what...a bit later them shrooms started kickin innnnnnn :-)
    We also go on buying Ice T a drink a couple hours later, parlayed for a good min,got a photo w him and us, played like Sega rally or some shit with the dude. Hes a great guy btw....later we try to get Coolio stoned while following his lil click around trying to figure out for one if his hair was real and secondly,who the hell were these dudes he was with,because these dudes were NOT in the Fantastic Voyage, or Gangsters Paradise videos and we kept asking them to spit something, we were beat boxing for some lady at Zoopit...??? wtf? where'd they go??? lol... We close out the night heckling Jay Leno, his chin and jeans as he gets ready to do some bs tech show interview , like pre tech TV

    The End.
  • thiagoeisthiagoeis Just press the buttons Joined: Posts: 48
    I liked the initiative of these guys, the game looked pretty old school, I was kinda hype... But what happened to you is pretty fucked up.
    Trying USFIV: Vega(Claw), Evil Ryu, Poison
    UMvC3: Taskmaster/Chun-Li/Hawkeye, Felicia/Doom/Strider
    SFxT: Poison/Jin, Ryu/Jin
  • gl3nniumgl3nnium (S)LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Joined: Posts: 28 ✭✭
    Well..like I said. I'm not going to put an editorial on it and make accusations. All I ask is that people read what happened and judge for themselves.
    But yeah, for me, It was fucked up.

    To put an analogy to it....Imagine a man in the desert who is desperate with thirst. A stranger walks up to him and says...don't worry I want to help you, I am building a well. The thirsty man says 'thank god, I can't hold on anymore'.
    A day passes the man is now starting to die. The stranger walks up to him again and says 'You are very fortunate, look at the beautiful well I'm building just for you' The man looks and sees nothing but dry earth.
    'but I don't see anything...and I still don't have any water at all.' He sobs.
    The stranger replies 'I know and I trying to help you..in a week it will be the finest well you ever saw.'
    To which the thirsty man replies 'but i'll be dead by then.'
    The stranger just smiles and says 'Yes I know, but it will be a fine well, and I built it just for you.'
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  • PND_KetchupPND_Ketchup Joined: Posts: 2
    Believe me when I say that you're not the only one.

    People on Testyourmight have had similar run-ins with Necrostorm, anyone that says anything remotely negative (or even asks why their game hasn't arrived) will get blocked and their comments removed.

    I was blocked within minutes, but had them constantly editing their own posts about 5 or six times, just so I'd get constant notifications from them, they seemed rather desperate for a reply.

    It's being made by the most unprofessional set of "developers" I have ever seen. To the point I honestly feel like the game will never be released and this whole thing is one big scam.
  • angelpalmangelpalm Joined: Posts: 13,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's what you get for having taste cancer in the first place.
    For all that they claim to be women’s natural allies, these schmucks don’t have the first clue about female psychology, or they wouldn’t need to turn to feminism as a sort of invisible date-rape drug. To these self-centered bitter little men bouncing around in their baby bubbles, it’s not really about empathizing with women at all, because they obviously don’t understand how women operate; it’s about scoring with women. It is in this sense that male feminists are more misogynistic than, well, you know, the misogynists.

    Spoiler:
  • gl3nniumgl3nnium (S)LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Joined: Posts: 28 ✭✭
    edited May 6
    chadouken! wrote: »
    So you're actually dying because you didn't get to play your video game?

    Dude, if it's that bad, Necrostorm accidentally sent me an extra copy of Death Cargo. I'll sell you one. Do you have a pay pal account?

    Ha ha..no it's not that bad. It was just an analogy.
    No...if you actually did get the game or an extra copy, I'm not interested. Like I said...I don't want to play anything made by a company that seems to despise me. If you also read my posts you'll see that I never actually said anything negative about the company because I don't have to...I believe that the truth and their own actions say enough.
    That's all really.
    I'll leave it up to other people to comment now. This thread was never intended to be some kind of 'soap box' for me to stand on. I feel like I've gotten the truth out, and that's enough for me.

    (One final note: Necrostorm had promised everyone that the 'digital download' would finally be available on May 5th. That deadline has now also lapsed (along with all the others) and apparently not been honoured according to the people at TYM. I don't need to add any more than that....You all know more than enough to draw your own conclusions now.)

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  • AYO?!AYO?! Fight for Mutantkind Joined: Posts: 15,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So did the Digital version release today or not.
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  • WTF-AKUMA-HAXWTF-AKUMA-HAX SSJizzle XVampire G.Jr Joined: Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AYO?! wrote: »
    So did the Digital version release today or not.
    I'm feeling bad for saying pirate the game, since even those guys can't get it.

    So, black ancestry lewise. Model em after Voodoo from Shaq Fu.
    You wouldn't even understand if I told you.
    People will forget what you said.
    People will forget what you did.
    But, people will never forget how you made them feel.
  • AYO?!AYO?! Fight for Mutantkind Joined: Posts: 15,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AYO?! wrote: »
    So did the Digital version release today or not.
    You would be interested in a game like this....

    I was just curious if they actually released it or did another legal scramble. Not really interested in the game since it looks like shit outside of the amusing fatalities.
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  • phantasyphantasy Smash Journeyman Joined: Posts: 7,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
    loooooool
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    youtube w/ videos mostly marvel
  • C-SwordC-Sword Joined: Posts: 300 ✭✭
    Wait for them to come up with excuses why there's no trailer yet.

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