HORI R.A.P.V4 Hayabusa Unboxing + Inside Look

LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always EatingJoined: Posts: 259
edited May 2014 in Tech Talk
OH! Look what came in the mail today!

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I'm gonna put the rest of the pictures in spoilers tags so it doesn't take up so much space.

The Back
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The Side
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The packaging seems standard
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First thing I noticed is that Hori still can't make a compartment door for shit! Isn't any better here guys... Same old crappy case lid. (Ignore the blue bar, I'm way too lazy to retake pictures)
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Turbo Panel
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Side view
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and this masterpiece of a door
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Oh this is the part where most of you are waiting for so here have at it
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Top Panel PCB
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Bottom PCB
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The Hayabusa Joystick
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and the Kuro buttons
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As for my opinions on this stick, I only had it for one day so far but I can say it's just the HRAP Hayabusa V3 with PS4 functionality (Duh). I already owned the Hayabusa joystick and still really like it. As for the Kuros, so far i think they are fine but I might still replace them with Seimitsu soon because I still prefer the force that it takes to trigger them. Probably gonna put it up on sale here soon. As for the 24mm Hori button, I find it super weird that the plunger goes under the rim and that bothers me. Gonna fix that soon by replacing it too.

I'm really digging the switch on top that let's me reverse L1/L2 and R3/L3 so that means I can cover up L1/L2 with button plugs and still have L1/L2 for use on top of the turbo panel. Neat feature. I also used it to reverse Start/Select.

As for use with the PS4, it works. I can't say much because it's just a stick that works with the PS4 lol.

Oh, did I mention that the compartment door is still complete dog shit? :)

Requested pic of the PCB:
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Turbo
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  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,474
    edited May 2014
    Interesting.
    The PCBs look very similar to the ones found inside the Hori RAP V3 Kai (I don't own one, but I modded one for a client last week)...

    Two things I forgot to ask:

    1) Is the layout the wider Kai layout, or the narrower original HRAP VX/V3 layout?

    2) So tell me again, what do you think of the compartment door? :)
    Post edited by FreedomGundam on
    Current at-home stick: Hori VLX Kuro (LS-40-01 + PS-14-K)
    Current portable stick: Mad Catz TvC (LS-40-01 + PS-14-KN)
    Current guest-sticks: custom ABS Modular stick (JLF + OBSN-30), custom Saint-stick (Happ/IL Competition)
    Cabinet: custom "Resistor" cabinet (32" LCD, X360, P1=LS-32-01 + PS-14-KN, P2=JLF + OBSC-30)
    Previous sticks: custom Happ CvS2 Double-sticks, custom Happ Hitomi-stick & Xenosaga-stick, custom Sanwa/Seimitsu Neptune-stick and Sylvia-stick, modded Mad Catz TvC, modded Mad Catz Brawlstick, modded Hori FSVX, modded Exar Exaprize

    Looking for:
    CPS2 (green or blue): Hyper SF2
    Naomi GD-ROM: SF Zero3 Upper, Puyo Puyo Fever, Triggerheart Excelica, Ikaruga
  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,836
    it's kind of a shame that after seeing a TE2 in person and seeing how nice of a job they did keeping that thing clean and compartmentalized, I am disappoint.

    Plus, solder points solder points everywhere.

    That new turbo panel looks really good though, and I do love the quick remap features on the flick of a switch.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,836
    Now the real question is this stick Common ground or not?

    Also the start button with the really shallow plunger, that is typical of Hori design, the Hrap 3 and Hrap EX was the same way.

    I don't like that wiring bundle in the middle, I got to do something about that once by V4 comes in.
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always Eating Joined: Posts: 259
    Two things I forgot to ask:

    1) Is the layout the wider Kai layout, or the narrower original HRAP VX/V3 layout?

    2) So tell me again, what do you think of the compartment door? :)

    1) I think it's the narrower layout, I'll compare it with my friend's VX on Friday.

    2)
    Dog Shit
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  • el grecoel greco Lite Dash Joined: Posts: 361
    Seems like a quick cash grab from Hori
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,836
    edited May 2014
    el greco wrote: »
    Seems like a quick cash grab from Hori
    I disagree. With the new security measures unlike the PS3, no one makes PS4 controllers without Sony's blessing.

    Also companies just don't redo all there plastic molds that easily. Plastic molds aren't cheap.
    Sony is most likely hording their stock of Encoders.
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,368 mod
    edited May 2014
    Hmm, that turbo panel looks similar to the one on the A3-SA I got to use last week (except for the new 3-4 switch). Was the turbo changed for the V4, or does the Kai have something like that as well?
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    If there's anything we do best, it's breaking games and then making everyone suffer with all the cheapness.
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  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,474
    @d3v‌
    I'm pretty sure the Kai had the Turbo area like that as well. I can't remember it 100% on the one I modded (since I told the client that he'll be losing all that functionality with the PS360+ I was putting in there anyways), but it looks very similar to what I vaguely remember on the HRAP V3 Kai...
    Current at-home stick: Hori VLX Kuro (LS-40-01 + PS-14-K)
    Current portable stick: Mad Catz TvC (LS-40-01 + PS-14-KN)
    Current guest-sticks: custom ABS Modular stick (JLF + OBSN-30), custom Saint-stick (Happ/IL Competition)
    Cabinet: custom "Resistor" cabinet (32" LCD, X360, P1=LS-32-01 + PS-14-KN, P2=JLF + OBSC-30)
    Previous sticks: custom Happ CvS2 Double-sticks, custom Happ Hitomi-stick & Xenosaga-stick, custom Sanwa/Seimitsu Neptune-stick and Sylvia-stick, modded Mad Catz TvC, modded Mad Catz Brawlstick, modded Hori FSVX, modded Exar Exaprize

    Looking for:
    CPS2 (green or blue): Hyper SF2
    Naomi GD-ROM: SF Zero3 Upper, Puyo Puyo Fever, Triggerheart Excelica, Ikaruga
  • GeorgeCGeorgeC Joined: Posts: 2,850
    Go here for the answer on the Turbo Panel => http://stores.horiusa.com/playstation-3-real-arcade-pro-v3-sa-kai/

    The Turbo panel got changed for the Kai models. The original HRAP V3 SA had 3-stop individual switches for the 30mm buttons like the HRAP 1 and 2 models did. The Kai panel has a generic Turbo button for every 30mm button like the HRAP 3 and HRAP N3 SA do. The revised turbo panel is probably easier for Hori to make... for anybody likes to use Turbo for whatever reasons, individual 3-stop switches are easier to use. It's harder to turn the Turbo feature on-and-off with the setup's like the HRAP 3's.
    The HRAP V4 might be using the original HRAP V3 SA faceplate panel. The joystick does look closer to the buttons on the HRAP V4 like they did on the original HRAP V3 SA model. The only things I can tell for sure are from the Hori-USA website and the HRAP V3 I own. I don't own the HRAP V3 Kai but it looks like from a top angle view (see photo on the Hori-USA site) that you can easily fit in at least two balltop handles' width between the joystick and the buttons... it's more like one-balltop handle width on the original HRAP V3 faceplate. You can scroll through multi-angle views of the mass-release product on the Hori website descriptions.
    Reusing older faceplates is nothing new for Hori. They reused the HRAP 1 faceplate (minus the turbo panel) for the licensed 'HRAP-lie' joysticks (Arcana Heart 1/2, Fate: Unlimited Codes, Tekken 5) they produced for the PS2.
  • PhreakazoidPhreakazoid Turkey Legs Incoming! Joined: Posts: 3,477
    Can you unscrew the main PCB and flip it over for a quick picture?
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  • LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always Eating Joined: Posts: 259
    edited May 2014
    @Phreakazoid‌ Done! Should be the last pic I just added.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,368 mod
    More on the turbo area. I'm surprised that it no longer has the 4 player indicator LEDs, despite having PS3 compatibility.
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    If there's anything we do best, it's breaking games and then making everyone suffer with all the cheapness.
    -PersiaXO
  • LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always Eating Joined: Posts: 259
    edited May 2014
    @d3v‌ ah, I'll do it tomorrow morning. Kinda don't wanna open it again since it really stinks lol

    EDIT: Can't sleep so there you go! Updated the post.
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  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,836
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    Kinda don't wanna open it again since it really stinks lol

    So the compartment door actually smells like dog shit? You weren't joking then when you made the claim it's dog shit. I wonder if they have a dog shit injection mold and that's why it's total crap.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,368 mod
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    EDIT: Can't sleep so there you go! Updated the post.
    Common ground confirmed?
    Moonchilde wrote: »
    I wonder if they have a dog shit injection mold and that's why it's total crap.
    You know what, I'm gonna say fuck it, I'm happy HORi decided to reuse the V-series casing. It's a fuckton better than having to pay $50 or more extra just to help them recoup the cost of R&D for an all new casing.
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    If there's anything we do best, it's breaking games and then making everyone suffer with all the cheapness.
    -PersiaXO
  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,836
    Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the mold is bad by any stretch of the imagination. I couldn't possibly because I have never had one. I was just following up on the dog shit joke about the compartment door.
  • GeorgeCGeorgeC Joined: Posts: 2,850
    d3v wrote: »
    You know what, I'm gonna say fuck it, I'm happy HORi decided to reuse the V-series casing. It's a fuckton better than having to pay $50 or more extra just to help them recoup the cost of R&D for an all new casing.


    Much as I don't personally care for the HRAP V3 case design, I agree with you on the cost issue.

    I don't want to get gouged on new generation peripheral controller costs, either. It's bad enough that mainline control pads doubled in price last generation!

    Hori got six years out of the original HRAP case with the major exterior change being the faceplate panels. I could see them wringing six years out of the newer HRAP V3 and HRAP N3 designs, too. Frankly, I don't know how important it is for most people to see case designs change every 2-3 years when the cases out there already work pretty well.

    Personally, I do hope that Hori reuses the HRAP N3/NX case design for the mass-production PS4 release. LED isn't as important or necessary as a reliable PCB and quality control parts that don't break on you after a month or two. Keep the current case designs, too, if that keeps the costs down for everybody!

  • PhreakazoidPhreakazoid Turkey Legs Incoming! Joined: Posts: 3,477
    edited May 2014
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    @Phreakazoid‌ Done! Should be the last pic I just added.

    Thanks, it's what I thought I'd see.
    Cerberus, easy dual mod for your TE ->www.phreakmods.com/products/cerberus
    Link JLF Detachable Joystick Shaft! -> www.PhreakMods.com/products/the-link
    Available @ FocusAttack.com -> http://www.focusattack.com/jlf-link/
    Available @ JasensCustoms.com -> https://www.jasenscustoms.com/PhreakMods-The-Link.html
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  • LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always Eating Joined: Posts: 259
    edited May 2014
    I've noticed that you cannot switch the Share/Options on the V4 for PS4 with the F-Mode switch. It makes sense since the Share button is locked on a system level.
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  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980
    edited May 2014
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    I've noticed that you cannot switch the Share/Options on the V4 for PS4 with the F-Mode switch. It makes sense since the Share button is locked on a system level.

    If I can ask, what is that switch even for? Everything else I could take a guess about, but this one I have no clue.
  • LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always Eating Joined: Posts: 259
    Ikagi-chan wrote: »
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    I've noticed that you cannot switch the Share/Options on the V4 for PS4 with the F-Mode switch. It makes sense since the Share button is locked on a system level.

    If I can ask, what is that switch even for? Everything else I could take a guess about, but this one I have no clue.

    That switch basically switches the Start/Select button.
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  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    Ikagi-chan wrote: »
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    I've noticed that you cannot switch the Share/Options on the V4 for PS4 with the F-Mode switch. It makes sense since the Share button is locked on a system level.

    If I can ask, what is that switch even for? Everything else I could take a guess about, but this one I have no clue.

    That switch basically switches the Start/Select button.

    Hmmm...So in PS3 mode, it switches Start/Select I assume, but you did just say that the PS4's Share/Options button is locked. What does the switch do on the PS4?
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,836
    I just want to know if the stick common ground or not.

    Probially not since that Hori game pad wasn't common ground.
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • NewGenNewGen aka SUPERDAVE Joined: Posts: 554
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    OH! Look what came in the mail today!

    where did you purchase this from?
  • NewGenNewGen aka SUPERDAVE Joined: Posts: 554
    MarkMan wrote: »
    I bought one, but disappointed. Hope they bring out something else later when there are actual PS4 fighters out.

    We are bringing the heat. Be ready.

    i'll buy it off you markman! name the time and place!
  • gahrlinggahrling Better safe than Hori.. Joined: Posts: 3,968
    Darksakul wrote: »
    I just want to know if the stick common ground or not.


    It looks common ground to me.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,836
    NewGen wrote: »
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    OH! Look what came in the mail today!

    where did you purchase this from?

    You can get it own from sites like Play Asia.
    gahrling wrote: »
    Darksakul wrote: »
    I just want to know if the stick common ground or not.

    It looks common ground to me.

    Well I already have the stick on order. I just open it up and take a multimeter to it.
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always Eating Joined: Posts: 259
    @NewGen‌ I got it off from AmiAmi but you can also get it from play-asia.

    I can't confirm if it's common ground or not since I don't know how to do that and also don't have a multimeter on me. I'll just wait for DarkSakul's results.
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  • xpulsexpulse Ice Ice Baby... Joined: Posts: 372
    MarkMan wrote: »
    We are bringing the heat. Be ready.

    Evo announcements incoming? :)

    "Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning?"
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,368 mod
    xpulse wrote: »
    MarkMan wrote: »
    We are bringing the heat. Be ready.

    Evo announcements incoming? :)
    Most likely the USFIV sticks (illuminati connections, don't ask). I'm guessing either PRO sticks (using up the old cases) or TE2s for 360 and PS3, with the latter possibly with PS4 compatibility.
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    If there's anything we do best, it's breaking games and then making everyone suffer with all the cheapness.
    -PersiaXO
  • NewGenNewGen aka SUPERDAVE Joined: Posts: 554
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    @NewGen‌ I got it off from AmiAmi but you can also get it from play-asia.

    I can't confirm if it's common ground or not since I don't know how to do that and also don't have a multimeter on me. I'll just wait for DarkSakul's results.

    how much was shipping from ami ami?
  • LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always Eating Joined: Posts: 259
    Around $70 to Ontario, Canada
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  • xpulsexpulse Ice Ice Baby... Joined: Posts: 372
    d3v wrote: »
    (illuminati connections, don't ask)

    When's the next meeting? Membership fees? I'll make/bring a DAMN good guacamole.

    "Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning?"
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,836
    edited May 2014
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    Around $70 to Ontario, Canada
    What $70? That better be like 3 day shipping.
    Then again I selected 1 week UPS shipping from PlayAsia for $56.90
    ordered on May 3rd, according to Play Asia I should get it by May 12th
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,836
    Shipping heavy sticks from over seas is really expensive. At least an extra $40 added to the cost to the stick.
  • LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always Eating Joined: Posts: 259
    Darksakul wrote: »
    LLeg3nd wrote: »
    Around $70 to Ontario, Canada
    What $70? That better be like 3 day shipping.
    Then again I selected 1 week UPS shipping from PlayAsia for $56.90
    ordered on May 3rd, according to Play Asia I should get it by May 12th

    I indeed got it in 3 days and also it was way cheaper in total on AmiAmi than Play-Asia.
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  • abkalldayabkallday Joined: Posts: 2,217
    Looks nice
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