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  • Hol HorseHol Horse a.k.a. Fugo ~ イタリアの強大なユリアン Joined: Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 24
    pherai wrote: »
    Yuna wrote: »
    Is it just me or is Blue Nocturne the worst goddamn super in this entire game? I seriously can't think of a super that sucks more than that outside of maybe Total Destruction.

    generally yes but there is a player that chooses SA3 specifically against Q when the Q player uses SA1 to go through LOVs. On reaction Remy SA3 hard counters Q SA1. Look up YOU Remy to see what Im talking about. Its pretty cool!

    SA3 Alex vs Oro and SA2 Tweleve vs Remy are similar single matchup super choices. I made a thread about these supers a few years back but its probably buried quite deep by now.

    There's also Jirou picking Akuma's SA2 in some matchups.
    Never really understood the point of Alex SA3 vs Oro

    gooby plz
  • TebboTebbo Play. Joined: Posts: 5,688
    edited April 24
    that's such a funny and incredibly specific trade off.

    q sa1 can blow through lov, remy sa3 can activate before q sa1 hits.

    outside q using sa1 in a combo the net result is like neither has super lol.

    i've always wanted to find something special out about sa3. but i haven't...
    yet.

    there's probably still stuff to it.
    maybe the secret is really to use projectiles to activate it and then watch remy fly across the stage like an idiot.
    Play more.
  • R.P.D rookieR.P.D rookie Totally Destructed Joined: Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Tebbo wrote: »
    that's such a funny and incredibly specific trade off.

    q sa1 can blow through lov, remy sa3 can activate before q sa1 hits.

    outside q using sa1 in a combo the net result is like neither has super lol.

    i've always wanted to find something special out about sa3. but i haven't...
    yet.

    there's probably still stuff to it.
    maybe the secret is really to use projectiles to activate it and then watch remy fly across the stage like an idiot.

    So the remy matchup where the opponent uses sa3 against me, they never use it to punish my sa1 through the lovs. It's usually a blind guess if I'm going to attack. That's a good way to use Remy's sa3 to counter the Q sa1.

    Maybe one could also use it off a red parry in the middle of an opponent attack that can't stop (like Dudley machine gun) or punish lightning legs. For a Q to nullify that sa3 punish would require super human reflexes to catch the remy at point blank mid projectile animation.
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  • TebboTebbo Play. Joined: Posts: 5,688
    you think a random guess is a good idea?
    yeah any parry situation vs multi-hit attacks, sure. it's just not worth it and in all cases you rely on your opponent's choice, not yours.
    Play more.
  • R.P.D rookieR.P.D rookie Totally Destructed Joined: Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 24
    Random guesses are never a good idea at high level. Not sure how a remy can utilize the sa3 outside of some crafty red parry. It can be done it sucks online but offline could be doable for the commited remy player.
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  • Hol HorseHol Horse a.k.a. Fugo ~ イタリアの強大なユリアン Joined: Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    also 99% of the situations where SAIII works.. SAII does the same thing, on top of its other uses and 2 stocks.
    SAIII would have been serviceable if it didn't have the super flash on startup and did more damage.
    gooby plz
  • TebboTebbo Play. Joined: Posts: 5,688
    SA3s in general are the weirdo ones for most characters. They usually do something different than what the character can do normally.

    so they usually suck or are character defining.
    there's no saving blue nocturne lol. the solution is to remove it entirely and give remy the sick ass donkey kick he does during it as a special move.
    Play more.
  • yamasakiyamasaki Joined: Posts: 44
    Hol Horse wrote: »

    There's also Jirou picking Akuma's SA2 in some matchups.

    Vs Chun mostly .... he sacrifices zoning for damage
    Never really understood the point of Alex SA3 vs Oro

    Some set-up are unescapable for Oro .
  • pheraipherai LIVE FOREVER Joined: Posts: 11,884 mod
    yamasaki wrote: »
    Hol Horse wrote: »

    There's also Jirou picking Akuma's SA2 in some matchups.

    Vs Chun mostly .... he sacrifices zoning for damage
    Never really understood the point of Alex SA3 vs Oro

    Some set-up are unescapable for Oro .

    it works kind of well for Jiros style. You can connect SA2 after hitting people with dive kick even at its highest point, similar to HP SRK.

    Also for Alex, my understanding is it has more to do with being able to react punish fireballs with Stungun
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  • TebboTebbo Play. Joined: Posts: 5,688
    But when really? Ken has to be at least as slow as oro is with his fireball.
    Hmm.
    Play more.
  • TebboTebbo Play. Joined: Posts: 5,688


    yo wtf MOV playin arms.
    Play more.
  • sidewindersidewinder Stiff Arm... Joined: Posts: 666 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    oh gawd.. I cant believed what I just saw.. :o
    im not that good , but there's always room for improvement... i think
  • TebboTebbo Play. Joined: Posts: 5,688
    the game actually looks really good.
    you just need to see it without the whole fighting game kind of veneer they've put on it. it's a dueling shooter. like duelmod in tribes and also a lot like shootmania where you can defend yourself by shooting the opponents shots.

    once you look at it like that, as a duel style shooter with fighting game elements, it's pretty sweet.

    MOV playing it is funny. Of course he would use the guy who can low profile everything just like scum-li.
    Play more.
  • ParryAllParryAll Dangerous Posts Joined: Posts: 3,311
    edited June 2
    If I jump in on a Ken or Chun with an attack, and they parry the jump in, do they now get a gaurenteed C.MK into super? If so is there any way around this? (Such as down parry?)
    Tebbo wrote: »


    yo wtf MOV playin arms.

    Omg this looks amazing. Nintendos Virtual On.
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  • Ryu24Ryu24 Retired 3S Titan Joined: Posts: 1,423
    If its a RH far and high away , the low forward from Ken/Chun shouldn't reach.
    If its a deep RH, Ken/Chun shouldn't be able to punish with a cr.mk

  • ParryAllParryAll Dangerous Posts Joined: Posts: 3,311
    Ryu24 wrote: »
    If its a RH far and high away , the low forward from Ken/Chun shouldn't reach.
    If its a deep RH, Ken/Chun shouldn't be able to punish with a cr.mk

    So in other words, if the jump in isn't delayed/deep, then it can be parried then super, if they're in range? So high, what about mid?
    "Third Strike just has that flow which somehow alienates you from your surroundings and really plugs your brain into the match your playing and your able to comprehend so many different situations and mind games and mixups in such a limited amount of time and all this without even thinking" - Nubilous

    "[3rd Strike] makes you feel like the character is an extension of yourself when you get good enough." - AzureWolf

    "Street Fighter is now like The Simpsons. It's been bad longer than it's been good." -ParryAll
  • Ryu24Ryu24 Retired 3S Titan Joined: Posts: 1,423
    Mid can be parried and punished cr.mk. You should check these out.
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 5,732
    edited July 24
    Where are Gill and Shin Gouki on the tier list?
  • Hol HorseHol Horse a.k.a. Fugo ~ イタリアの強大なユリアン Joined: Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Jion_Wansu wrote: »
    Where are Gill and Shin Gouki on the tier list?

    just below me
    gooby plz
  • KYO84KYO84 Riddle Solver Joined: Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    What is the best platform/most active scene for this game? 360, PS3 or Fightcade?
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  • IglooBobIglooBob Bob the builder Joined: Posts: 4,039
    360 has the majority of the good players /active tourney players who will play online, but a smaller overall playerbase so you have to join the xbl 3s facebook chat or happen to meet the right people to start getting invited to the private lobbies.

    PS3 has more active players but the average skill level is low. The small handful of strong players on PS3 have mostly migrated to 360 in the last year.

    Fightcade has a large playerbase and because of the format it's easiest to get games and communicate there. There's also pretty noticeable input delay especially if you play on LCD or an OS more modern than XP (I hear from friends that windows 8 and 10 are both especially unpleasant). The playerbase is a mixed bag. There's lots of low level players, some mid tier players, some good players who also play on 360, and some good players you can only play on fightcade.

    My personal move in this landscape is to play 360 usually, play fightcade when there's someone specific to fightcade I wanna play, and ignore PS3. What you play depends on how much you value playerbase size vs strength.
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