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  • Hatred EdgeHatred Edge No Ningens Allowed Joined: Posts: 16,609
    This game is like crack.

    When I lose in this game, it pisses me off like no other. But victory? The sweetest taste.
    Has anyone thanked you today for not setting the whole world on fire?

    They should. I won't. I advocate setting the world on fire. But morons who actually like it, benefit from society, would do well to thank you and men like you for not visiting hell upon them.

    "You don't know what it's like to hate. To have your entire life become nothing more than an expression of hate. Nothing else matters. Nothing else can compare. Or taste as sweet."
  • NaerasNaeras Terribad Joined: Posts: 3,608
    T7 isn't that bad for me, even when I feel I lose to something stupid. In those cases I know I just need to lab that situation up or work on what movement options to use.
    SFV was the worst game for me to lose in. And, in retrospect, the least satisfying one to win in as well. ._.
  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Architect Joined: Posts: 5,723
    edited November 2017
    I can't believe it.
    Yesterday some guy adds me on Steam and I see he's a Tekken player so I'm like "Alright, maybe hatemail or looking for a practice partner." so I go on and accept.

    Today the the dude messages me and this is what went down:

    01:32 - The Grim Reefer: what's up? do we know each other?
    20:00 - Trouble Maker: hey
    20:00 - The Grim Reefer: oi
    20:00 - Trouble Maker: i was looking for high rank players
    20:00 - Trouble Maker: u one of them right?
    20:00 - The Grim Reefer: oh. then you picked the wrong address. I'm a yellow rank paul xD
    20:00 - Trouble Maker: ohhh
    20:00 - Trouble Maker: what rank?
    20:01 - The Grim Reefer: vindicator-usurper depending on what i had for breakfast
    20:01 - Trouble Maker: oh
    20:01 - Trouble Maker: well
    20:01 - Trouble Maker: actualy
    20:01 - Trouble Maker: i was looking for boost
    20:01 - Trouble Maker: and i need axacly vindicator
    20:01 - Trouble Maker: ofc not for free
    20:02 - Trouble Maker: i can get 1 any game u need on steam
    20:03 - The Grim Reefer: thing is. i don't really do that kind of shit. and i dont need any games either. tekken and yakuza are all i need. i also hella despise cheaters, so i guess this discussion is over



    What the fuck is wrong with those people?
    If you have no aspirations to get better at the game, what the fuck is getting a higher rank good for?
    Just go and play another game instead of wasting people's time when you decide to play ranked match and obviously get matched with somebody who bodies you free.
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  • appoappo (¬‿¬) Joined: Posts: 5,262
    edited November 2017



    What the fuck is wrong with those people?
    If you have no aspirations to get better at the game, what the fuck is getting a higher rank good for?
    Just go and play another game instead of wasting people's time when you decide to play ranked match and obviously get matched with somebody who bodies you free.

    you should have asked him for his account infos and that you will boost it up for him..... :tongue:
    he will most likely not touch ranked anymore and rubs himself with oil while looking at his rank in the main menu when he got it :D
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  • sonic_lightningsonic_lightning Joined: Posts: 37
    Who do you think will win the Tekken World Tour Finals?

    http://www.strawpoll.me/14343116/r
  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Architect Joined: Posts: 5,723
    I guess the safe bet is JDCR and it's also safe to say that none of the Europeans will make it anywhere past the first round winners/losers.
    But damn there's so many high caliber Asian players in there as well as Jimmy Tran and Anakin, that it's impossible to predict. Too many games in that dumb bo3 format until winner/loser finals, so that anything could happen except for the Europeans getting shit done.
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  • appoappo (¬‿¬) Joined: Posts: 5,262
    is that D.Jin player who kicked his ass qualified to participate?

  • sonic_lightningsonic_lightning Joined: Posts: 37
    appomo wrote: »
    is that D.Jin player who kicked his ass qualified to participate?

    Qudans is also qualified. Qudans beat him in Singapore. But JDCR also beat him in Taiwan.
  • FrozteyFroztey Break the Cuffs Joined: Posts: 10,905 mod
    I'd have my money on JDCR if you're sane, but I REALLY hope we see big upsets early on into the tourament to show that the Tekken scene isn't a two-man show.
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  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 559
    I rooting for Mr Naps, but yeah probably JDCR. Saint, Knee and Qudans as runner ups.
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  • NaerasNaeras Terribad Joined: Posts: 3,608
    edited November 2017
    If I had to bet on someone other than JDCR -- which I'd never do, he's on another level right now -- it'd be Noroma or Qudans. They're pretty much the only ones that have been able to topple JDCR since EVO, though even they seem to struggle with keeping up consistently.
    Knee and Saint are also in contention as they are definitely capable of beating anyone in the world, but both of them seem inconsistent as of late (Knee in particular has dropped a lot of sets to random players). Then there's Chanel, Take and Nobi, who end up 7th-2nd on anything they enter but never go quite the entire way. Mr Naps, Jeondding, Yuu (if he's going?), AK and Doujin are also names very much worth mentioning as they're really damn good, but not quite up there with the names above.

    Still cheering for Qudans though. I want the Mishima rep to show them what's what.

    edit: just realized half of the people listed here aren't even qualified lol D:
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  • eviljevilj Joined: Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Safe bet is JDCR and Noroma in grand finals imo.

    I think I'm going to attend in person, but the event is from 12-10pm, long ass time.

    Definitely cheering for Qudans, and Naps or Speedkicks as the under dogs.

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  • NaerasNaeras Terribad Joined: Posts: 3,608
    Also are there fewer competitors in the TWT Finals this year compared to KOIFT 2016? I thought there were more.
  • eviljevilj Joined: Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited November 2017
    Long post incoming cause I love this game and am always thinking.

    I played a few casual matches with Tekken Tim yesterday at a Long Beach tournament/gathering. He is top 2 or 3 in SoCal imo and I remember his name from the Tekken 5 days. Real cool guy IRL.

    Granted I only played against his Heihachi , not Steve his best character .
    Played one game with Devil Jin , and though my execution is the best it's ever been since I'm using a Korean stick , I got demolished and switched immediately to hwoarang for 2-3 games. Didn't fare much better as his spacing was top notch. With hwoarang , I'm typically trying to set up mixups and whiff punish but the times I played against Tim and Waygamble, I realize how important spacing and distance is, it honestly feels like I'm playing street fighter.
    I switched again as I felt like I wasn't putting any pressure on him with Hwoarang. Funny thing is, I do this exact same thing to other hwoarang players, but can't fight it myself.

    Stay out of his range of peacekeeper, and engage him on your own terms, that's footsies


    So then I switched to Shaheen and could feel myself playing much more tight and solid. It's amazing the difference when you play a lower execution character, you can focus on more important shit. My strategy was to focus on spacing, and when I got up close I used a lot of tracking moves.

    I was having what I felt were better matches and he knew I was Trying my best to beat him, it's pretty great when you're trying your damn hardest in casuals . I eventually took one game off him after another 3-4 matches. Damn near everything I whiffed was punished, even if it was a quick move, never been ewgf and regular wgf so much in my life.

    Some things he was doing with heihachi I never thought of or faced when playing Heihachi:

    F+2, 3 = -3 to -1 on block , I was blocking and reacting with jabs a lot afterward and he was ducking. This is something I notice a Claudio guy who typically plays against Tim in Grand Finals does here, after a safe mid (Claudio f+3) , they sometimes duck in hopes of punishing the next move with a quick WS move. Sometimes I would gamble and retaliate with df+1 or a df+2 launcher after blocking this move, but I think if he suspected this, he coulda beaten me with jabs. Rock paper scissor game...

    Blocked F+4 from a dash or wavedash:
    I know this is a move that leaves Heihachi at plus, his typical follow up would be df+1 which checks me, he seemed to be able to hit confirm df+1,2 if I push buttons or did anything stupid. Heihachi can also sidestep and see if there were any whiffs and do df+1,2.
    Eventually I played kazumi, and if I felt a df +1 was coming after a Blocked F+4, I did a quick mini backdash into a df1+,2 to punish the slight whiff of the df+1. He'd occasionally go low as a riskier option after a blocked F+4. There's kind of a rock paper scissor mind game after a block df+1 as well.

    Long range crouch dash WGF-yes regular god fist, not electric god fist. This is something I saw in old tekken tag videos, and I recently saw Qudans doing a lot of this as well against wakeups. He would bait a rising 3 from far away, and come in with a long crouch dash into regular WGF.

    Tim was doing this to me in the neutral. I actually asked him "Can I ask you, are you crouch dashing and waiting to see if you see me hit button before you push yours, or were you just going for it?" He told me "yeah I'm waiting".
    Basically he's doing a long crouch dash which goes under highs, and if I stuck out anything, he was nailing me.

    FF+2 on block: This move is -16 or -15 and it's a launcher, but it has a lot of pushback. For some reason, I instinctually want to push buttons after blocking this move because I know it's unsafe, but I was retaliating with dumb shit like Standing 4 with kazumi or other non sense that wouldn't reach. I immediately got whiff punished by Heihachi's 1+2 (fireball animation) move several times. So this is definitely a setup that I will be using if I play Heihachi in the future.

    I seemed to be doing slightly better with Kazumi than Shaheen in terms of pressure, but I don't think it's character specific, it was more of me getting used to his playstyle after having a bunch of matches using Shaheen.




    Post edited by evilj on
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  • p.m novaroad pilotp.m novaroad pilot Joined: Posts: 2,653
    evilj wrote: »
    Long post incoming cause I love this game and am always thinking.

    I played a few casual matches with Tekken Tim yesterday at a Long Beach tournament/gathering. He is top 2 or 3 in SoCal imo and I remember his name from the Tekken 5 days. Real cool guy IRL.

    Granted I only played against his Heihachi , not Steve his best character .
    Played one game with Devil Jin , and though my execution is the best it's ever been since I'm using a Korean stick , I got demolished and switched immediately to hwoarang for 2-3 games. Didn't fare much better as his spacing was top notch. With hwoarang , I'm typically trying to set up mixups and whiff punish but the times I played against Tim and Waygamble, I realize how important spacing and distance is, it honestly feels like I'm playing street fighter.
    I switched again as I felt like I wasn't putting any pressure on him with Hwoarang. Funny thing is, I do this exact same thing to other hwoarang players, but can't fight it myself.

    Stay out of his range of peacekeeper, and engage him on your own terms, that's footsies


    So then I switched to Shaheen and could feel myself playing much more tight and solid. It's amazing the difference when you play a lower execution character, you can focus on more important shit. My strategy was to focus on spacing, and when I got up close I used a lot of tracking moves.

    I was having what I felt were better matches and he knew I was Trying my best to beat him, it's pretty great when you're trying your damn hardest in casuals . I eventually took one game off him after another 3-4 matches. Damn near everything I whiffed was punished, even if it was a quick move, never been ewgf and regular wgf so much in my life.

    Some things he was doing with heihachi I never thought of or faced when playing Heihachi:

    F+2, 3 = -3 to -1 on block , I was blocking and reacting with jabs a lot afterward and he was ducking. This is something I notice a Claudio guy who typically plays against Tim in Grand Finals does here, after a safe mid (Claudio f+3) , they sometimes duck in hopes of punishing the next move with a quick WS move. Sometimes I would gamble and retaliate with df+1 or a df+2 launcher after blocking this move, but I think if he suspected this, he coulda beaten me with jabs. Rock paper scissor game...

    Blocked F+4 from a dash or wavedash:
    I know this is a move that leaves Heihachi at plus, his typical follow up would be df+1 which checks me, he seemed to be able to hit confirm df+1,2 if I push buttons or did anything stupid. Heihachi can also sidestep and see if there were any whiffs and do df+1,2.
    Eventually I played kazumi, and if I felt a df +1 was coming after a Blocked F+4, I did a quick mini backdash into a df1+,2 to punish the slight whiff of the df+1. He'd occasionally go low as a riskier option after a blocked F+4. There's kind of a rock paper scissor mind game after a block df+1 as well.

    Long range crouch dash WGF-yes regular god fist, not electric god fist. This is something I saw in old tekken tag videos, and I recently saw Qudans doing a lot of this as well against wakeups. He would bait a rising 3 from far away, and come in with a long crouch dash into regular WGF.

    Tim was doing this to me in the neutral. I actually asked him "Can I ask you, are you crouch dashing and waiting to see if you see me hit button before you push yours, or were you just going for it?" He told me "yeah I'm waiting".
    Basically he's doing a long crouch dash which goes under highs, and if I stuck out anything, he was nailing me.

    FF+2 on block: This move is -16 or -15 and it's a launcher, but it has a lot of pushback. For some reason, I instinctually want to push buttons after blocking this move because I know it's unsafe, but I was retaliating with dumb shit like Standing 4 with kazumi or other non sense that wouldn't react. I immediately got whiff punished by Heihachi's 1+2 (fireball animation) move several times. So this is definitely a setup that I will be using if I play Heihachi in the future.

    I seemed to be doing slightly better with Kazumi than Shaheen in terms of pressure, but I don't think it's character specific, it was more of me getting used to his playstyle after having a bunch of matches using Shaheen.




    yeah kasumi has alot of trouble punishing ff2 from heihachi

    with him as a sub that i use i was laughing at your post cause alot of those strats are scrubby as shit but they work. that 1+2 after ff2 is laughs i thought i was the only one that did that dumbass shit
    the best thing to do is when you have a character that cant punish it is to dash block. if you have the character that will punish it but its inconsistent then you have to show him that you can punish it that will stop the 1+2 also.
    personally what dissuades me the most from using that move is when the opponent steps it and thats only when you are predictable with it
    its tough because you have to discern between wavedash and regular dash is he gonna do it or is gonna electric to catch something and/or continue pressure or f4 to catch you also.

    regular god fist is underrated as a move its actually useful as the crush frames are longer that was a cool tactic.
    sure wavedashing into a EWGF is cool but the point is to catch them regardless lmfao we have one guy here that complains when he gets hit by a wgf but not the EWGF

    heihachi has strings that cant be punished he loses his turn after but they are all safe like 1,2, 1+2
    that used to be jab interrupt-able in tag2 but now unless you use armor its safe
    the only one that can be jab interrupted is d1,2 and even that is super risky because d1 has good push-back and he can transition into crouch so if you try to hard read the followup and jab interrupt he will get a ws punisher on you.

    as for the world tour I want to see qudans win the most or mr naps i seen qudans adapt soundly and calm to every style on the circuit even jdcrs hes won a tournament and i think he could take it hes super sharp and it would be great to see him take it. plus i been watching alot of qudans streams and hes helping me with my devil jin play alot
    I would hope that jdcr uses heihachi and I hope knee can get top 8




  • eviljevilj Joined: Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Fantasy matchup would be JDCR Heihachi vs Qudans Devil Jin in the grand finals.
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  • sonic_lightningsonic_lightning Joined: Posts: 37
    edited November 2017
    evilj wrote: »
    Fantasy matchup would be JDCR Heihachi vs Qudans Devil Jin in the grand finals.

    jdcr's heihachi vs qudan's dvj will be epic. but in his last two tournaments i think jdcr has not used heihachi, so maybe jdcr is rusty with his heihachi. i think jdcr will pick dragunov. i am also not sure if you can switch characters at twt finals. in last year's world championship, you can only use one character in the whole tournament. personally i want jdcr to win. but if he won't win i want that euro yoshi or raven player to win.

  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Architect Joined: Posts: 5,723
    JDCR pretty clearly stated that the reason why he doesn't play Heihachi in tournament is because tournaments are played on PS4. Dragunov is much more effective with input lag from his point of view.
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  • sonic_lightningsonic_lightning Joined: Posts: 37
    edited November 2017
    JDCR pretty clearly stated that the reason why he doesn't play Heihachi in tournament is because tournaments are played on PS4. Dragunov is much more effective with input lag from his point of view.

    but jdcr did play heihachi a lot at tournaments. it is only in his last 2 tournaments that he is no longer using heihachi. but jdcr still uses heihachi on certain match ups. against a ling player or nobi's dragunov, he always uses heihachi.
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 59,210 mod
    edited November 2017
    Yeah even I've seen JDCR use Heihachi and I don't play this game and barely watch it. That must have been something he decided to do in the last month if that's even true.

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  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Architect Joined: Posts: 5,723
    https://clips.twitch.tv/ZealousCallousRedpandaOneHand

    I also wouldn't put too much thought into a pro player that is qualified by a bazillion points already, picking Heihachi.
    Wouldn't be surprised if he goes for him sometimes for the fans.
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    https://clips.twitch.tv/ZealousCallousRedpandaOneHand

    I also wouldn't put too much thought into a pro player that is qualified by a bazillion points already, picking Heihachi.
    Wouldn't be surprised if he goes for him sometimes for the fans.

    He can pick heihachi if the twt finals is not locked to one character only. i am not sure but i think for the whole tournament duration you can only have one character. It means you can't choose another character.

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  • FrozteyFroztey Break the Cuffs Joined: Posts: 10,905 mod
    Been playing a bunch recently.

    I have a very hard time discerning what moves are which in this game. Every move looks like a generic kick/punch to me.
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  • NaerasNaeras Terribad Joined: Posts: 3,608
    Froztey wrote: »
    Been playing a bunch recently.

    I have a very hard time discerning what moves are which in this game. Every move looks like a generic kick/punch to me.

    Takes time to learn. You need to get that stuff beaten into you.
  • eviljevilj Joined: Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Some characters you can learn on the fly but other characters, gotta go to the lab.
    That's like me against Lars and all his dumb moves out of the dashes which I had no idea I could probably interrupt.

    Also his dumb df+2,1 move that is used as a juggle starter and corkscrew extender...I'm like why the fuck can't jab punish this on block.

    Turns out it's safe but a high.
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    TEKKEN WORLD TOUR Finals Player Interviews #1/2


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    Schedule is from 12pm pacific to 10pm.

    Looks like they are doing a 4 group round robin first to determine the top 8.

    Then Top 8 around 6pm.

    I just got my ticket to attend.
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  • p.m novaroad pilotp.m novaroad pilot Joined: Posts: 2,653
    Thats sick
    a roundrobin is a really cool idea

    also just for fun small snippet of gameplay again
    everytime i tried to look cool and dash in (my movement got better) I got hit when i took my time thats when I was able to get some good hits in

  • eviljevilj Joined: Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited November 2017
    Those electrics were crisp bro, especially the first one.

    How can you change Mishima dojo music though to tekken tag character select ? Lol

    Shouldn't that be for the select screen ?

    A Paul demoted my hwoarang and promoted himself today.
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    edited November 2017
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  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 559
    Man that Geese stage looking really nice. Can I buy Geese and that stage alone or do I have to get the season pass?
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  • appoappo (¬‿¬) Joined: Posts: 5,262
    Man that Geese stage looking really nice. Can I buy Geese and that stage alone or do I have to get the season pass?

    there are no separate purchase options. so its either contained in the dlc pack2 which is part of the season pass or it gets added for free for everyone...which i doubt.

  • BiolinkBiolink Shenmue 3 will come Joined: Posts: 4,384
    edited November 2017
    Geese is looking crazy hype. He looks like he'll be a bitch to learn, but this is why we play :-)

    I'm not familiar with KOF mechanics. What happened when he used his meter to go into some kind of "overdrive" mode in that video 4:24?
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    gotta say geese looks hella fun, first Akuma now Geese
    I won't be surprised when Ninja turtles also end up in tekken 7 sometimes 2018 lol
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    TEKKEN WORLD TOUR Finals Player Interviews #3
    "What are your predictions for the TEKKEN WORLD TOUR Finals this Sunday?
    See what the top US players have to say about the competition!"

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  • appoappo (¬‿¬) Joined: Posts: 5,262
    edited November 2017
    1 hour 45minutes left before it starts.

    Event Schedule
    TEKKEN World Tour Finals
    All times PT.

    12 PM – Doors open
    12:30 PM – TWT Finals Group Selection Pre-Show
    1:00 PM – TWT Finals Group Stage
    5:00 PM – Dragon Ball FighterZ Exhibition
    6:00 PM – Top 8 Bracket Stage

    Further Info on TekkenGamer about how the tournament is handled, including the brackets/format.
    http://tekkengamer.com/2017/11/10/tekken-world-tour-finals-info/

    Stream
    https://go.twitch.tv/tekken
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  • BiolinkBiolink Shenmue 3 will come Joined: Posts: 4,384
    So this is it, Tekken championships is over today?
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