Persona 4 Arena: Ultimax General Discussion (Out NOW in the US!!)

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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    I kept making the wrong decisions then lol... Rise's pressure is ridiculous. If I don't have meter to Alpha Counter or GC Evasive Action, I gotta hold it. For not having ever fought that character, I'm surprised how "well" I was blocking.
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  • KennedyKillsKennedyKills Joined: Posts: 138
    edited October 2014
    2 questions - when are people usually playing? I'm on around 7pm central on weekdays and pretty much whenever on weekends

    And the other question I have is does anyone know what kanji's best option against Marie j.c is? I feel helpless against Marie players who use it with any sort of thought of the spacing or situation
  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    2 questions - when are people usually playing?

    And the other question I have is does anyone know what kanji's best option against Marie j.c is? I feel helpless against Marie players who use it with any sort of thought of the spacing or situation

    I'm usually playing between 3pm and 12am EST.

    Can't you just DP or 360 it?
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  • KennedyKillsKennedyKills Joined: Posts: 138
    Yeah I've been doing dp on reaction I didn't know if there were any normal aa options that give you better damage without using the 50 meter to super cancel
  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    Yeah I've been doing dp on reaction I didn't know if there were any normal aa options that give you better damage without using the 50 meter to super cancel

    Idk too much about Kanji, so I couldn't tell you. I'm pretty sure his 360, if you time it right, beats it out and converts into decent damage but, you're better off asking @Hawkingbird.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,239
    Kanji's AA options suck. His 2b is his best AA normal but he has slow startup so it isn't a move you can use on reaction. You have to know it's coming for it to be effective. Thunderbolts are also effective if can predict your opponent movement well enough.
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    Anyone want to play? @Phantom Angel‌ ?
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    Anyone want to play? @Phantom Angel‌ ?

    Sure. You know where to go....
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    GGs, Martian. I need to learn some set ups for Marie... I'm only going to get so far with what I'm doing lol. Why the hell do they call her "Mary," btw? That shit pisses me off... It's "MUH-REE."

    Who's idea was it to give Sho all these high-lows, teleports, instant overheads, AND cross-up/Evasive Action-esque AoA? He's annoying as shit lol. Screw his stupid swords, too... He can just throw out random normals and complicate my approach.
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  • drwill439drwill439 I'll never understand. Joined: Posts: 2,953
    GGs, Martian. I need to learn some set ups for Marie... I'm only going to get so far with what I'm doing lol. Why the hell do they call her "Mary," btw? That shit pisses me off... It's "MUH-REE."

    How are they gonna mess up their own character's name? Atlus is directly involved in the game, they know how to spell and pronounce the names.
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    drwill439 wrote: »
    GGs, Martian. I need to learn some set ups for Marie... I'm only going to get so far with what I'm doing lol. Why the hell do they call her "Mary," btw? That shit pisses me off... It's "MUH-REE."

    How are they gonna mess up their own character's name? Atlus is directly involved in the game, they know how to spell and pronounce the names.

    Idk, but it's infuriating lol. Another thing I don't appreciate is the way they designed the Shadows. The fact that they have Persona contradict P4's entire storyline... They really should've just been Arcade Mode/Golden Arena bosses in their true forms.
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  • KennedyKillsKennedyKills Joined: Posts: 138
    @Hawkingbird‌ OK that's kind of what I thought but I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I was missing. I'll stick with the dp then
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,239
    @Phantom Angel

    The way the shadows are doesn't contradict anything. If the Malevolent Entity is who I think it is then the way the shadows function are his MO. Shadows were like that in Persona 2.
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    @Phantom Angel

    The way the shadows are doesn't contradict anything. If the Malevolent Entity is who I think it is then the way the shadows function are his MO. Shadows were like that in Persona 2.

    Persona 2 had shadow versions of characters like Persona 4? And they used Persona? I say it's a contradiction because those shadows became those Persona.... It's not right that they're using them. I've only seen one shadow manifest a Persona, and that was a special case.

    I haven't actually gotten through P4A's entire story... I tried, but it was too tedious. Gotta read up on it some time...
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  • drwill439drwill439 I'll never understand. Joined: Posts: 2,953
    @Phantom Angel

    The way the shadows are doesn't contradict anything. If the Malevolent Entity is who I think it is then the way the shadows function are his MO. Shadows were like that in Persona 2.

    Persona 2 had shadow versions of characters like Persona 4? And they used Persona? I say it's a contradiction because those shadows became those Persona.... It's not right that they're using them. I've only seen one shadow manifest a Persona, and that was a special case.

    I haven't actually gotten through P4A's entire story... I tried, but it was too tedious. Gotta read up on it some time...

    I had the same issue with P4A's story before I sold it. Even worse is that I really had no incentive to play the story since I had all the characters right out the box.
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    drwill439 wrote: »
    @Phantom Angel

    The way the shadows are doesn't contradict anything. If the Malevolent Entity is who I think it is then the way the shadows function are his MO. Shadows were like that in Persona 2.

    Persona 2 had shadow versions of characters like Persona 4? And they used Persona? I say it's a contradiction because those shadows became those Persona.... It's not right that they're using them. I've only seen one shadow manifest a Persona, and that was a special case.

    I haven't actually gotten through P4A's entire story... I tried, but it was too tedious. Gotta read up on it some time...

    I had the same issue with P4A's story before I sold it. Even worse is that I really had no incentive to play the story since I had all the characters right out the box.

    I wanted to know the story, but the way it's presented sucks. Same issue with BlazBlue, since it's the same.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,239
    @Phantom Angel

    Yes, Shadows used personas in Persona 2 but they were reverse Personas. The Shadows from this game and Persona 2 doesn't come from within the characters. They were created by an entity.
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    @Phantom Angel

    Yes, Shadows used personas in Persona 2 but they were reverse Personas. The Shadows from this game and Persona 2 doesn't come from within the characters. They were created by an entity.

    Oooooh, ok. That makes a lot more sense lol.

    Btw, did you get your copy yet?
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,239
    I have my copy. I was training with Kanji last night. I like the buffs they gave him.
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    I have my copy. I was training with Kanji last night. I like the buffs they gave him.

    Buffs... Oh, great.... :expressionless:
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  • metrokardmetrokard Joined: Posts: 1,299
    hey anyone got any good places to go if they want to learn kanji...play a bunch of matches and cant get a hang of this game...tried training mode but i feel so slow compaired to everyone else...and that target combo does ass damage so i want to learn some better ways to go about this game
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,239
    Dustloop is your best bet if you want to learn Kanji.
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  • KyehlarKyehlar Purrrfect Joined: Posts: 122
    I believe the reason that the announcer seems to 'mess up' on Marie's name in the call, is that in Japan she's known as Mariko Kusumi. So it's possible the soundbyte just cuts off at 'Mari' and that's why it sounds like its messing up on the name.
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    Kyehlar wrote: »
    I believe the reason that the announcer seems to 'mess up' on Marie's name in the call, is that in Japan she's known as Mariko Kusumi. So it's possible the soundbyte just cuts off at 'Mari' and that's why it sounds like its messing up on the name.

    That can't be it... The pronunciation would still be incorrect, because it should be "ah" as in "fall" in Japanese. They pronounce Akihiko and Kanji's names perfectly fine. Either way you look at it, they're saying her name wrong.

    Has anyone unlocked different announcers to be able to tell if the other characters pronounce it correctly? I know for a fact Teddie should.
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  • KyehlarKyehlar Purrrfect Joined: Posts: 122
    Kyehlar wrote: »
    I believe the reason that the announcer seems to 'mess up' on Marie's name in the call, is that in Japan she's known as Mariko Kusumi. So it's possible the soundbyte just cuts off at 'Mari' and that's why it sounds like its messing up on the name.

    That can't be it... The pronunciation would still be incorrect, because it should be "ah" as in "fall" in Japanese. They pronounce Akihiko and Kanji's names perfectly fine. Either way you look at it, they're saying her name wrong.

    Has anyone unlocked different announcers to be able to tell if the other characters pronounce it correctly? I know for a fact Teddie should.

    Only one I've unlocked is Yukiko, and all they announce are the round calls. Still the announcer stating who wins.
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,854
    Hell, truth be told I forget how you even unlock them in the first place.
  • The MartianThe Martian We Out Here. Joined: Posts: 12,250
    Why can't you pick the announcer for every fighter...?
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  • BlueXIIIBlueXIII Self-Improvement Club Joined: Posts: 96
    Why can't you pick the announcer for every fighter...?

    Nanako round call is the best thing to ever happen to me in this game.
  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,854
    Someone pointed out there's apparently not a Sho round call announcer, which makes me kinda sad, since bad puns going all match would be hilarious.
  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    Kyehlar wrote: »
    Kyehlar wrote: »
    I believe the reason that the announcer seems to 'mess up' on Marie's name in the call, is that in Japan she's known as Mariko Kusumi. So it's possible the soundbyte just cuts off at 'Mari' and that's why it sounds like its messing up on the name.

    That can't be it... The pronunciation would still be incorrect, because it should be "ah" as in "fall" in Japanese. They pronounce Akihiko and Kanji's names perfectly fine. Either way you look at it, they're saying her name wrong.

    Has anyone unlocked different announcers to be able to tell if the other characters pronounce it correctly? I know for a fact Teddie should.

    Only one I've unlocked is Yukiko, and all they announce are the round calls. Still the announcer stating who wins.

    Dammit... There's Announcer and then there's Round Call. The Announcer doesn't...well, announce?
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  • BlueXIIIBlueXIII Self-Improvement Club Joined: Posts: 96
    Dammit... There's Announcer and then there's Round Call. The Announcer doesn't...well, announce?

    The announcer says things like "__ Wins" or "Check the time!". He doesn't have much presence during the match, but I guess that's what Navigators are for.
  • KyehlarKyehlar Purrrfect Joined: Posts: 122
    So are there announcers to unlock on top of the round call? Because round calls unlock by beating Arcade mode with said characters.

    Where are the guides for this shit? lol
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    Kyehlar wrote: »
    So are there announcers to unlock on top of the round call? Because round calls unlock by beating Arcade mode with said characters.

    Where are the guides for this shit? lol

    I beat Arcade with Marie and got nothing....
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  • The MartianThe Martian We Out Here. Joined: Posts: 12,250
    Can you play in about an hour, Phantom?
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    edited October 2014
    Can you play in about an hour, Phantom?

    Yea, I can.

    When does the Margaret DLC come out, btw? She uses a couple of my favorite Persona, and I want to Suplex people.
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,854
    I think Margaret actually comes out tonight, unless she's already out.
  • KennedyKillsKennedyKills Joined: Posts: 138
    edited October 2014
    Welp that was pretty cool, spent 30 mins finishing Kanji's challenge 25 and didn't get the trophy.. lel

    Anyways phantom just saw you sign in im on Junes Magician
  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,277
    Welp that was pretty cool, spent 30 mins finishing Kanji's challenge 25 and didn't get the trophy.. lel

    Anyways phantom just saw you sign in im on Junes Magician

    My power's acting funny right now... It keeps going in and out. I'm afraid I won't be able to play today.
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  • AlkipotAlkipot Speeches are for campaigning... now is the time for action! Joined: Posts: 1,877
    Game looked interesting so I thought I'd give this Persona thing a shot for the first time ever, are there any beginner friendly characters anyone can recommend? I've been using Rise so far and she's fun as hell.
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  • TetsuroTetsuro Joined: Posts: 705
    Was gonna pick this game up the other night on psn, but the free characters stopped being free a day early. WTF Atlus?
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