Decapre Labwork Thread

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  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    forward movement during sting. There are EX specific combo strings i've found too for meaty sting, but they don't actually do any more damage, so i haven't really seen the point of them yet.
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  • MalvadiscoMalvadisco Marambio Joined: Posts: 2,967
    Veserius wrote: »
    forward movement during sting. There are EX specific combo strings i've found too for meaty sting, but they don't actually do any more damage, so i haven't really seen the point of them yet.

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  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    edited February 2015
    Blanka

    optimal combos

    Confirm
    cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.mp, cr.mp xx(standing only)
    cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.mp, cr.mk xx RES/Daggers(crouching only)
    cr.lp, cr.hp, far mp xx(standing only))
    cl.mp, cr.mp, cr.mp/far mp xx(standing only)
    cl.mp, cr.mp, cr.mk xx RES/Daggers (crouching only)

    Meterless Punish (note that during a dizzy if you do not start the combo with a crumple or jumpin the last two combos will not work)
    TC1
    cr.hp, far mp xx
    cl.hp, cr.mp, cr.mp xx

    Strike Standing

    EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx RES 292/450
    EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx HP Rapid Daggers 306/520
    EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx HP Psycho Sting 348/506

    strike standing or crouching

    EXCS cl.mp, cr.mp, cr.mp xx (replace cl.mp with cr.lp on crossup)

    Primary Post BNB setup(RES)

    slight step back, cl.lp, HK Scrmable LK or MK Divekick crossup divekick, lands in front on stand block with LK Strike, lands behind on crouch block. Causes U1, Super and ex upball to whiff. Backdash auto corrects into decapre to be punished. Can also punish ex rainbow on reaction. Loses to U2 Ground/Air. Delay MK strike to hit front side.

    Primary Post BNB setup(Daggers)

    LP or MP Daggers, empty jump throw/low short If they wakeup throw you will tech, will block reversal ex upball/u1/u2/super. If no quickrise go into RES setup

    MK Scramble HK Divekick at Toes unsafe vs. EX Upball, U1, Super. Safe vs. reversal U2(either), electricity and normal upball. Can psycho sting vs. backdash ex rainbow. MP/LP break to bait reversals.

    Primary Post BNB setup (Psycho Sting)

    (midscreen)Empty Jump Will block EX Upball/Ground U2. AA U2, U1, and Super whiff. Once you condition them not to EX upball or if they are meterless you can J.HK safejump.

    Midscreen Backthrow Crossup

    b.throw, walk a tiny bit, whiff st.mk, j.lp makes Ex upball whiff(can punish with dash dash), backdash auto corrects back into Decapre, super/u1/u2 aa whiff, u2 ground will be blocked or you can lp/ex sting or u2 it.

    Target Combo J.jab

    TC1, latest possible air throw, walk, cr.mp, j.LP Causes U2 AA and EX upball to whiff. Safejumps U2 ground. Gets hit by super/u1


    Blanka Ball Punishes BLOCKED

    All - AA U2

    HP - Walk cr.mk/far mp xx daggers

    MP - RES or Dash cr.lk xx daggers

    LP - RES(inconsistent based on ball spacing)

    Normal Upballs - RES

    EX - dash, cr.lp, cr.mp, cr.mp xx

    Blanka Ball Punish HIT

    All Except Knockdown Balls - Walk forward ground u2
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  • RygRyg Joined: Posts: 146
    Thx a lot for all the stuff Veserius.
  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    Need to figure out more fake crossup divekick stuff off of cancel strings. dunno who to start with. On blanka you can do like cr.lp, cr.lp xx mk scramble delay hk divekick and it'll hit him super low if he's crouching and you end up on the other side, but you're pretty vulnerable to reversals.
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  • MalvadiscoMalvadisco Marambio Joined: Posts: 2,967
    edited February 2015
    Veserius wrote: »
    Need to figure out more fake crossup divekick stuff off of cancel strings. dunno who to start with. On blanka you can do like cr.lp, cr.lp xx mk scramble delay hk divekick and it'll hit him super low if he's crouching and you end up on the other side, but you're pretty vulnerable to reversals.

    reversal dp can hit you inbetween?
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  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    depends on the string and the character, need to play around with it more
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  • MateriaMateria Joined: Posts: 118
    Are you going to do Balrog again since your accidental delete lol
  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    Materia wrote: »
    Are you going to do Balrog again since your accidental delete lol

    yeah, I just did Blanka first cause I was mad
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  • RygRyg Joined: Posts: 146
    Are you talking about something like this?
  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    yeah i know how it works on shotos, but not much on anyone else other than yun/rufus, I also want to practice doing non ex cancels and look for results.
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  • RygRyg Joined: Posts: 146
    I know you can do it on shotos without Ex with hk strike but dont know the setup.
  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    better optimized the post dk combo on rufus, cl.mp, cr.lp, cr.mp xx hp sting on front side strike.
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  • The Mad KingThe Mad King Hyou~ Joined: Posts: 262
    Vs E. Honda

    After RES: Step back, HK Scramble -> HK Dive - Crossup divekick, makes butt slam whiff, makes EX Headbutt whiff, safe vs U1, divekick is plus even against standing Honda. Having problems adjusting for delay wakeup (delay LK dive whiffs).
  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    Mk dive is better vs. honda, tends to be 3 way unblockable. Against dwu, just crossup mp break, and meaty him.
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  • The Mad KingThe Mad King Hyou~ Joined: Posts: 262
    edited March 2015
    Personal lab priority right now is finding a way to pressure Rufus safely through focus throw OS outside of hard read cancel meaty into HP Sting (meaty EX break maybe?). Also finding some defensive option selects since most lab work has gone into setups.

    Also thanks Ves! I appreciate the assistance with that setup (as well as the ridiculous legwork you've put in towards this character).
  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    edited March 2015
    Max range meaty cr.mk will cause focus parry to whiff, let you block messiah, and snake strike will whiff.

    hands into safejump divekick option select sting will beat rufus's focus parry, ex messiah, snake strikes, and backdash if you do it correctly.

    safejumps with max range nj.mk's and jf.hk's also dodge the parry and everything else, you can usually manually time these, pus it's much harder to parry something without reversal timing to set it up as it ends up being a much smaller window for him to do so and you might just smack him with the safejump regardess.

    b.throw unblockable on him(b.throw, step st.jab x2, j.mp) also safejumps ex messiah, and causes the ex snake and focus parry to whiff.

    defensive wakeup os, hold down back until you get charge, tap up right before you wakeup, db + lp~lk(momochi os). Will block an immediate meaty, dp a delayed meaty, and tech a throw. Can do ex sting ~ lk to deal with moves that are projectiles, delayed throws, command grabs as well.
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  • TSwizzleTSwizzle Fearless Joined: Posts: 322
    I did a counterhit setup with cl.mp and then followed it up by slight walk forward into target combo and air throw. It does really good damage. However the spacing for this is kind of tight, so I'd practice it. The actual follow up input I used is MP, HK, HP in the event I get fs.mp, it completes the target combo with HP for less damage.
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  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,516
    character, range, and cr./st. specific
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  • MalvadiscoMalvadisco Marambio Joined: Posts: 2,967
    edited March 2015
    i would´ve opened a new thread with that tho
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  • ZacharaZachara Joined: Posts: 915
    You're never going to let the whole "One thread per character" fiasco go are you? :)
  • MalvadiscoMalvadisco Marambio Joined: Posts: 2,967
    is kinda funny to even think that such idea would work

    and is kinda sad at the same time :(
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  • TSwizzleTSwizzle Fearless Joined: Posts: 322
    I usually go for the cl.mp counterhit after some staggered jabs and walking into the character.

    CH cl.mp TC1 air throw = 305 damage
    CH cl.mp TC2 = 222 damage (Always works)

    (Fuck it, I'll just test it for every character.)

    Good call Ves since it definitely depends on reel and pushback on hit.

    TC1 CH Setup:
    Ryu (crouch/stand)
    Ken (crouch/stand)
    Honda (crouch/stand)
    Ibuki (crouch/stand)
    Makoto (crouch/stand)
    Dudley (crouch/stand)
    Seth (crouch)
    Gouken (crouch/stand)
    Akuma (crouch/stand)
    Gen (stand)
    Dan (crouch/stand)
    Sakura (crouch/stand)
    Oni (crouch/stand)
    Elena (stand)
    Yun(stand)
    Juri (crouch/stand)
    Chun (none)
    Sim (crouch/stand)
    Abel (crouch/stand)
    Viper (crouch/stand)
    Bison (crouch/stand)
    Sagat (stand)
    Cammy(crouch/stand)
    Deejay (crouch/stand)
    Cody (crouch/stand)
    Guy (crouch/stand)
    Hakan (none)
    Rolento(none)
    Poison(crouch/stand)
    Evil Ryu(crouch/stand)
    Guile (none)
    Blanka (none)
    Gief (none)
    Rufus (none)
    Fuerte (crouch/stand)
    Vega (crouch/stand)
    Rog (stand)
    Fei (crouch/stand)
    Hawk (none)
    Adon (crouch/stand)
    Rose (none)
    Yang (stand)
    Hugo (none)

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  • RygRyg Joined: Posts: 146
    edited April 2015
    I just found that we can do cl.mp , c.hp, s.mp xx on a bunch of characters. It is a good way to stun somebody quickly and add a bit of damage. I dont know if it is known either but on a crouching Ibuki you can do CH cl.mp, c.hp, U2. I will try to do some lab and find other stuff.
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