FightCade 3S (GGPO killer)

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  • DanderDander BANNED Joined: Posts: 7,227
    edited December 2014
    I don't know man. Maybe the netcode bit was just louis being funny again. But maybe the server change is enough to make a difference. I say this not from some technical point of view but because it had a noticeable decline in input drops, meaning none and they were even on time, and it doesn't roll back. I'm not saying it isn't ggpo, it is, but there is something different about it. Even the commentator in the background, that guy that says things like "let's go" after you mess up a parry or something, doesn't pop on every 3 seconds and he doesn't say stupid shit that doesn't fit the situation.

    It's funny that no one has ever acknowledged hearing that commentator. It's probably the one thing I think 3s could do without. Useless unless you can play with someone that is on point with all of their parries.
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  • AlexisdabombAlexisdabomb Joined: Posts: 2,528
    @POF I have to politely disagree. FightCade and GGPO do feel different. I can parry and react to things much more on FightCade than GGPO. I've also had fewer dropped inputs.
    "I wish someone would flex in front of the camera and say I'm awesome....

    ;_; "

    Dander.
  • RVNRVN Joined: Posts: 46
    Hey pof, thank you for your clarification. Cheers.
    Hilarious wiki on louiscipher aka Alexisdabomb
    http://ggpo.wikidot.com/louiscipher


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    -Alexisdabomb: I think I've played enough dudes in general that I can say I'm decent
    -Harmonaz: i just want to know why YOU are so upset whenever you are here
    -Harmonaz: criticising how ppl play
    -Alexisdabomb: I'm more annoyed at the level of play and the trolling
    -Harmonaz: when, arguably, you are an absolute nobody when it comes to making judgements on how to play 3s
    -Harmonaz: posting more than anyone on srk does not make u a good player
    -Alexisdabomb: But I think I have enough experience when I can point out when a dude uses gimmicks...

  • CUTWESTCUTWEST There is no rivalry. =( Joined: Posts: 1,771
    Fightcade is hella superior.
  • RVNRVN Joined: Posts: 46
    @POF I have to politely disagree. FightCade and GGPO do feel different. I can parry and react to things much more on FightCade than GGPO. I've also had fewer dropped inputs.

    You're seriously going to dispute the guy that put the thing together when he tells you it's exactly the same?
    Ignore the guy and save yourself the nightmare. Or see my signature link to see why he's like this.
    Hilarious wiki on louiscipher aka Alexisdabomb
    http://ggpo.wikidot.com/louiscipher


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    -Alexisdabomb: I think I've played enough dudes in general that I can say I'm decent
    -Harmonaz: i just want to know why YOU are so upset whenever you are here
    -Harmonaz: criticising how ppl play
    -Alexisdabomb: I'm more annoyed at the level of play and the trolling
    -Harmonaz: when, arguably, you are an absolute nobody when it comes to making judgements on how to play 3s
    -Harmonaz: posting more than anyone on srk does not make u a good player
    -Alexisdabomb: But I think I have enough experience when I can point out when a dude uses gimmicks...

  • BurnYourEgoBurnYourEgo Ishikawa don't care about your weeabullshit avatar. Joined: Posts: 1,997
    RVN wrote: »
    @POF I have to politely disagree. FightCade and GGPO do feel different. I can parry and react to things much more on FightCade than GGPO. I've also had fewer dropped inputs.

    You're seriously going to dispute the guy that put the thing together when he tells you it's exactly the same?
    Ignore the guy and save yourself the nightmare. Or see my signature link to see why he's like this.

    Ha yeah, I read your signature like 2 seconds after I made that post. I feel sorry for this pof guy. I'm glad he's kind this stuff up and running and am tweaking my set-up to play on it myself, but having Alexisdabomb as an avocate it'll do more harm than good.

    I think Alex even dropped 2 spots on the tier list as a direct result of Alexisdabomb playing him.
    Steam: BurnYourEgo: Terribly playing KOFXIII and Xrd, want to learn Skullgirls
    Fightcade:Bathtub_Leviathan: ST, maybe 3s
  • wuziqwuziq keyboard Joined: Posts: 484
    pof wrote: »
    Hey guys.... just jumping in quick to clarify a few things:

    cool thanks!

    btw what machine is running the fightcade server?
    PSN: wuziq
  • fantochefantoche Joined: Posts: 3
    I played I think 30 matches yesterday on fightcade because ggpo was down. I left fightcade with my arms sore lol ( I'm playing online with a homemade Sanwa arcade stick) Never felt this on ggpo. A lot of moves heavy to perform. At a first impression I thought it was only in my side but other players was complaining about that as well.
    Animation and pixelization was so strange at first, I felt a few missing frames and just after tweaking some video settings I had better results but not 1:1 with GGPO
    Of course the client is better than GGPO client. A lot of rooms for new games = no more need to messing with unsupported games and lose countless minutes trying to explain someone how to setup a unsupported game, The interface is slick although I miss a big challenge button lol. ahh and the replay feature needs no comments, it's the best feature there.
  • itzjordaNNitzjordaNN METRIC Joined: Posts: 10
    I mean, if it's using the same exact net-code and emulation, whatever, that's fine. The fact that it's actively being worked on and is open source makes this a step above GGPO.

    Ponder hasn't touched that thing in like 7 years.

    I don't know much about emulation, but I don't think there's much room for improvement with CPS3 games, right? o.O

    I'm just assuming because we haven't seen any progression in emulation.
  • ViacheViache Joined: Posts: 781
    There's probably a lot that could be done, but little crossover between people with the necessary programming expertise and people that play one of the 4(?) CPS3 games enough to care.
  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,420
    Do you have to have really old-ass versions of the roms to get this to work? I can't seem to get the 3s roms I have to work (I have the sfiii3n and sfiii3an ones)
    "Money matches are against the law in Japan. They can never be good at Marvel." -4r5
  • IglooBobIglooBob Bob the builder Joined: Posts: 4,039
    I believe it's the same version as GGPO uses. so not saying that anyone should ever torrent anything, but if they were to look up "ggpo torrent" they would probably find the roms they need.
  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,420
    Aaaactually I think I found a place that has them. TPB is down and the only things that seem to come up when I search it is porn. :\
    "Money matches are against the law in Japan. They can never be good at Marvel." -4r5
  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,420
    Got it working. It's not bad, definitely not better than 3SO yet but with some work I could see this being really good. It would be nice to have a good PC alternative once 3SO starts getting long in the tooth.

    That and I gotta say, I really like all the non-filtered/non-HD graphical bits in 3S. It's nice to see those again. xD
    "Money matches are against the law in Japan. They can never be good at Marvel." -4r5
  • ForkliftKillerForkliftKiller Joined: Posts: 38
    Someone in the lobby linked to the right ROM and finally got it working after sitting around and not being able to accept challenges. I'll mosey on over and try again fully equipped. Feels pretty good and captures well, though I don't think I have any 3S vid projects in the brain factory atm.
  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,420
    I may jump on a little later if anyone wants some games
    "Money matches are against the law in Japan. They can never be good at Marvel." -4r5
  • DanderDander BANNED Joined: Posts: 7,227
    gonna hop on for a few matches in a bit
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  • -=KOH=--=KOH=- In Japan Joined: Posts: 1,572
    Been playing on here for a bit, It's definitely much better than the old GGPO client.
    All the way in the back of the food stamp line.
  • DanderDander BANNED Joined: Posts: 7,227
    I still don't understand why this one plays much better than ggpo but it does. Also, how come no one ever wants to play online? wtf
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  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,420
    What do you mean no one ever wants to play online?
    "Money matches are against the law in Japan. They can never be good at Marvel." -4r5
  • DanderDander BANNED Joined: Posts: 7,227
    everyone but a select few people on ggpo declines every invite :(
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  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,420
    edited December 2014
    I declined a few tonight because I was getting ready to head to the bar, but there were several people watching. There are some people that all they do is watch from what I've seen.

    edit: @Dander I see what you're saying. I think there are a bunch of dudes that just watch. I get it, but it's kind of annoying especially when you're looking for games.
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    "Money matches are against the law in Japan. They can never be good at Marvel." -4r5
  • RMDRMD Joined: Posts: 3
    I'm on a mac and have downloaded this but have no idea where the config is and gameplay pauses for 10 seconds at a time at random. Someone mentioned on the last page as long as your wine settings things should run smoothly, where do I access that?
  • sidewindersidewinder Stiff Arm... Joined: Posts: 666 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    this thing is telling me ,that I cant connect and that I need to restart the application..wtf .l.
    im not that good , but there's always room for improvement... i think
  • DanderDander BANNED Joined: Posts: 7,227
    maybe you have a virus
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  • TiredOceanTiredOcean Low-tier theory fighter Joined: Posts: 134
    @RMD‌ I can't be 100% sure about Mac, since I'm using linux, but the "Wine settings" you're talking about should be labeled as "Configure Wine" or something like that. The actual name of the program is "winecfg" - if you know how to use (or open) a terminal, just type "winecfg" (without the speech marks, of course) and hit enter to access it. If that doesn't work, try "locate winecfg" in terminal to find the folder the program is in.

    @sidewinder‌ This might be a stretch, but my brother had a similar problem. If you're on Windows, try making sure that the network you're connected to is marked as a "Home" network.
  • sidewindersidewinder Stiff Arm... Joined: Posts: 666 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    TiredOcean wrote: »
    @RMD‌ I can't be 100% sure about Mac, since I'm using linux, but the "Wine settings" you're talking about should be labeled as "Configure Wine" or something like that. The actual name of the program is "winecfg" - if you know how to use (or open) a terminal, just type "winecfg" (without the speech marks, of course) and hit enter to access it. If that doesn't work, try "locate winecfg" in terminal to find the folder the program is in.

    @sidewinder‌ This might be a stretch, but my brother had a similar problem. If you're on Windows, try making sure that the network you're connected to is marked as a "Home" network.

    is set to home network, I dont know wtf is going on. Oh well... at least I try.
    im not that good , but there's always room for improvement... i think
  • sidewindersidewinder Stiff Arm... Joined: Posts: 666 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    lol.... I figure it out ,but it turn me off just like ggpo the random denjin scrubs ,no way this fightcade shit is better than XBL ,not even close.
    im not that good , but there's always room for improvement... i think
  • DanderDander BANNED Joined: Posts: 7,227
    good games giraux
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  • metricmetric - Joined: Posts: 1,203
    Tried it out yesterday.

    Unfortunately, it would constantly boot everybody playing to the lobby.. I couldn't play for more than a few minutes without this issue. (probably ddos)

    With that said, the experience was pretty good, though, it definitely feels different.

    I haven't played enough to really know if it's actually better, though.

    I don't really play 3s anymore, but it's nice that FightCade is there, especially because it looks like Ponder called it quits on GGPO.
  • Ryu24Ryu24 Retired 3S Titan Joined: Posts: 1,423
    Theres an imposter on FightCade yesterday using your name without the capital M and uses Q!
    Is that true Metric?
  • metricmetric - Joined: Posts: 1,203
    Ryu24 wrote: »
    Theres an imposter on FightCade yesterday using your name without the capital M and uses Q!
    Is that true Metric?
    Nope
  • petran79petran79 Here comes an old challenger Joined: Posts: 1,913
    If this amends the connection reset issue of the old GGPO then it is welcome
    Only issue was that I wasnt able to run the graphical GUI on Ubuntu but only the command-line version.
    the Fightgade GUI gives me some font cache error. Hope they open forums for feedback too
    too slow!
  • exodusexodus anti-vid scrub advocate! Joined: Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Ryu24 wrote: »
    Theres an imposter on FightCade yesterday using your name without the capital M and uses Q!
    Is that true Metric?

    it's probably yuuki
    .
  • cribbacribba Joined: Posts: 22
    Wasn't someone working on an open source clone of the GGPO netcode?

    Would be nice if that could be implemented in to Shmupmame, since that emulator seem to handle input lag better than FBA.
  • ViacheViache Joined: Posts: 781
    cribba wrote: »
    Wasn't someone working on an open source clone of the GGPO netcode?

    There's Caster: http://mizuumi.net/2010/10/24/caster-an-unofficial-netplay-client/
  • RopeADopeRopeADope Joined: Posts: 44
    Just played it and it's good, better than GGPO for me... You think the dev will improve 3S for it? Like remove black lines?
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,723 mod
    Finally signed up for this. If you see me online, hit me up for some laggy 3S matches.
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