Our first online tournament! January 3rd: Cross Platform Crackdown!

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  • phantasyphantasy Smash Journeyman Joined: Posts: 8,557
    lol good luck
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 23,397
    Why the fuck is Find Mii legal, but Gerudo Valley and Coneria are banned?!? How is a stage with random power-ups and de-buffs legal, but those aren't?

    Golden Plains is more fair than Find Mii... At least you have to earn that power up...

    Kongo Jungle is not a neutral... that stage has caused me more problems than all of Ridley and Metal Face combined... and Luigi's is banned, but coward's paradise Jungle Hijinx is a counter-pick?

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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 26,962
    Yea... Find Mii gotta go.
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  • Colonel-GilgameshColonel-Gilgamesh He rains salty tears Joined: Posts: 8,408
    I've elaborated very clearly my stance on the stages I banned. Most have Cave of life or Camping problems.

    But I'll quickly sum up why Corneria and Gerudo are gone.

    Corneria is a campy dream as well as having stupid close borders

    Gerudo is the opposite, with ginormous borders. I let Torimer's ride because it's not as disruptive and doesn't have a giant pit in the middle or is a walk off.

    Jungle Hijinx I'll give you because it's a leftover I meant to take out but didn't.

    Also, why are you both raising this shit now, THE DAY OF THE TOURNAMENT. These have been up for over two weeks. Speak sooner
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 26,962
    I just joined, so I get immunity :innocent:.

    You're free to yell at Po, though lol.
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  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,273
    edited January 2015
    kongo jungle 64 is almost a perfectly neutral stage...your character's are big enough now that the size isn't anything to worry about

    jeezus, i think you went too lenient on the stage choices. we want to make the tournament shorter, not longer

    like holy dear god, some of these stages choices are really bad that even po is disagreeing with some of them

    i still wouldn't separate wily's omega from the other omega stages, they're all CP, just announce the one you want to use but anyways
    Wii U stage List
    Neutral:
    Battlefield
    Final Destination
    Kongo 64
    Smashville
    Town and City
    Duck Hunt
    Lylat

    Counterpick Stages:
    Omega Stages
    Halberd
    Delfino
    Castle Siege
    Coliseum
    Gamer
    Pilot Wings
    Wuhu Island


    Banned Stages:
    Windy Hill
    Mario Galaxy
    Mario Circuit
    Mario Circuit(Brawl)
    Skyloft
    Norfai
    Orbital Gate(Debatable)
    Kalos Pokemon League
    Pokemon Stadium 2
    Yoshi's Wolly World(Debatable)
    Garden of Hope
    Wii Fit Studio
    Wrecking Crew
    Boxing Ring

    Temple
    Palutena Temple
    Great Cave Offensive
    PAC-LAND
    Luigi's Mansion
    Bridge of Eldin
    Onett
    Pyrosphere
    Yoshi's Island(Melee)
    Skyworld
    Gaur Plains
    75M
    Jungle Hijinx
    Flat Zone X

    3DS Stage List
    Neutral:
    Final Destination
    Battlefield
    Lumiose City
    Yoshi's Island

    Counterpick:
    Tortimer Island
    Omega Stages
    Reset Bomb
    Mute City
    Rainbow Road
    Brinstar
    Arena Ferox

    Banned:
    Tomadachi Life
    Pictochat 2
    Boxing Ring
    Pac Maze
    Find Mii
    N's Castle/Unova
    Wily Castle

    3D land
    Golden Plains
    Paper Mario
    Mushroomy Kingdom
    Corneria
    Spirit Tracks
    Gerudo Valley
    Warioware
    Magicant
    Living Room
    Balloon Fight
    Gaur Plains
    Jungle Japes
    Green Hill Zone

    is mine more conservative than yours? yea but it's not bat shit crazy. you ban some stages for circle camping but not others which have a worse problem with circle camping (tomodachi life and boxing ring are among them). some stages offer power-ups (find mii) or have a crazy cave of life (mario circuit). i know we want to have as expansive of a list of stages but have some control. don't throw everything into the bag at once, ease us into it. some of these stages are out of wack though (pac maze and pictochat 2 are terrible for tournament settings)

    you also did not discuss the stage list for the tournament at all in this thread which is why some of us are going to be a bit perturbed
  • Colonel-GilgameshColonel-Gilgamesh He rains salty tears Joined: Posts: 8,408

    you also did not discuss the stage list for the tournament at all in this thread which is why some of us are going to be a bit perturbed
    We're still hammering out the stages here in the stages thread, so feel free to pop on by and contribute.

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  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,273
    still wasn't discussed all that much
  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Frame Data Scientist Joined: Posts: 20,336
    still wasn't discussed all that much

    And who's fault is that?
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  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,273
    edited January 2015
    everyones

    i still think it would've been better to start off with a smaller list than what CG threw at us. a lot of those stages are crazy
  • Colonel-GilgameshColonel-Gilgamesh He rains salty tears Joined: Posts: 8,408
    I know I've made efforts to discuss stages in that thread, dabble with stages in the IRC with Sir_Tubbsy, and encouraged people to talk about it in the thread when they were talking about it in IRC so everyone could see it
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  • Colonel-GilgameshColonel-Gilgamesh He rains salty tears Joined: Posts: 8,408
    Part of the reason for the chaotic list Mood is that we don't know where to draw the line. In general, none of us really play and use the tactics that break a lot of these stages. Further, many of us do not want to limit ourselves to the safest ones. As such, you could say we're feeling things out still. With an actual tournament under our belt, we'll have better knowledge
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  • phantasyphantasy Smash Journeyman Joined: Posts: 8,557
    u forgot to list # of stocks
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  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Frame Data Scientist Joined: Posts: 20,336
    In general, none of us really play and use the tactics that break a lot of these stages.

    Yeah, it's not like I camp on Pilotwings or anything!
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  • Colonel-GilgameshColonel-Gilgamesh He rains salty tears Joined: Posts: 8,408
    It appears Rayne dropped out because of dumb
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  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Frame Data Scientist Joined: Posts: 20,336
    It appears Rayne dropped out because of dumb

    Just because he doesn't like our ruleset doesn't make his reasoning dumb.
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  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,273
    Spme of the stages chosen are really bad though
  • CyntalanCyntalan HERE COMES THE STAPLER!!!! Joined: Posts: 8,164 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited January 2015
    It appears Rayne dropped out because of dumb

    Just because he doesn't like our ruleset doesn't make his reasoning dumb.

    No, it's because of dumb. Why? 'cause this shit is FREE.

    I could get that argument if you were payin' a fuckin' entry fee...

    Just as fuckin' bad as phantasy, I swear...
  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 26,962
    edited January 2015
    Drama 30 minutes before the tournament's supposed to start?

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  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Frame Data Scientist Joined: Posts: 20,336
    Cyntalan wrote: »
    No, it's because of dumb. Why? 'cause this shit is FREE.

    I could get that argument if you were payin' a fuckin' entry fee...

    Just as fuckin' bad as phantasy, I swear...

    It also has something on the line.

    Ultimately I think @Rayne_‌ doesn't want to enter something where win/loss matters more, especially if it's not going to really help him on the offline tourney side of things. Our ruleset isn't exactly "the norm," as it were.
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  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,273
    if it didn't have a batshit crazy stage list, he probably would've stayed
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  • UnSaxon51UnSaxon51 PUT ME IN YOUR DAMN CROSSOVER GAME OR ELSE Joined: Posts: 3,846
    I like having a larger stage list. Makes it WAY more interesting.
    I'm not even competing, and I pointed out my concerns with the stage list within a day of it being posted. Everyone else is lazy.
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 23,397
    edited January 2015
    I claim Mario Circuit Wii U as my stage.

    Fuck you, @KaboXx
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  • Colonel-GilgameshColonel-Gilgamesh He rains salty tears Joined: Posts: 8,408
    po pimpus wrote: »
    I claim Mario Circuit Wii U as my stage.

    Fuck you, @KaboXx

    Not quite yet Po.

    I'll be opening the flood gates for reserving stages later, when more people are aware of it. Not too long off though
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  • DavidstarDavidstar KILLA KUEEN! Joined: Posts: 5,020
    Wish I could've played.
    How many entrants were there?
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  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Frame Data Scientist Joined: Posts: 20,336
    Fuck Insomnia.

    That should be my name up there.
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  • Colonel-GilgameshColonel-Gilgamesh He rains salty tears Joined: Posts: 8,408
    Fuck Insomnia.

    That should be my name up there.

    Insomnia isn't the one who said 'No, I do not wish to play and withdraw'

    That was you, Rayne, and me at the very end.
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  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Frame Data Scientist Joined: Posts: 20,336
    Insomnia isn't the one who said 'No, I do not wish to play and withdraw'

    Fuck you.

    You try playing while you're barely able to stay awake and have a growing headache, all because of something THAT I HAVE NO FUCKING CONTROL OVER!!!

    So don't even start, shithead.
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  • phantasyphantasy Smash Journeyman Joined: Posts: 8,557
    here are my suggestions for the settlers tournament

    what i have so far is prone to being infinitely drawn out, so that's the main problem i have with it right now

    Let's have stages: A, B, C, D.
    Player1 has A, Player2 has B, Player3 has C, Player4 has D
    Player1 and Player2 are matched up in the first round. P3 and P4 are matched up in the first round.

    P1 and P2 player their match. They can choose to pick A or B, and the game decides which they play on.
    If a player wins on their own stage, that stage is "defended" and cannot be chosen in the next round.
    If a player loses on their own stage, that stage is "lost" and cannot be chosen in the next round. It now belongs to the winning player.

    The loser is the one who runs out of stages.
    When moving to the next round, the winner can only pick one stage to add to their list of stages.

    Let's say P1 won and now has A and B, and P3 won and now has C and D.

    They play. P1 chooses C and P3 chooses A.
    P1 wins on C, and now has A,B,C.
    P3 chooses A again, and P1 chooses D. P3 wins on D. Now P1 cannot choose a stage that belongs to P3 for one round, and must choose one of its own stages to defend. P3 can choose any stage to attack.

    etc. You can see how this could go on a long time, so I suggest 2 stock or even 1 stock.
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 23,397
    Yeah that's not gonna work.

    I suggest a coin-flip to decide first stage, then standard counterpick rules from there(save for the fact that you have a "homestage" that you're locked to).

    Simple and to the point.

    And no to fucking 2-stock... Damn.
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  • Colonel-GilgameshColonel-Gilgamesh He rains salty tears Joined: Posts: 8,408
    I don't think I really like that phnts.

    While this kind of scenario did cross my mind, as you said, it would draw the tournament out for far too long, as well as complicate things a bit.

    As it stands, you will only inherit a stage after the elimination of an opponent. The match is still best 3 of 5, so there should be plenty of time for one to beat the other
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  • phantasyphantasy Smash Journeyman Joined: Posts: 8,557
    2 stock 3/5 is completely fine po. It ranges from 6 to 8 stocks needing to be taken by the winner - 3 stock 2/3 is also 6-8.

    That's fine too CG. Both players pick one of their stages g1, then play on one of the loser's stages from there on out?
    I think players should be allowed 2 characters if this is the case, and blind pick them every game as well.
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  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,273
    i'd honestly rather have the next tournament to have 2 stock matches. the games feel less drawn out. brawl should've done this as well.
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    Sounds like a cool idea, although I won't be able to play. How close are we to being able to stream?
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