Third party PS4 padhack options

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  • mR_CaESaRmR_CaESaR Joined: Posts: 737
    It's the new 3.50 firmware.

    What I do is as follows:
    • Sign in as normal on P1
    • Sign in a second user (eg guest)
    • Use the second controller, when you press home you should now get the option to choose which profile you want to load
  • JackalsJackals Joined: Posts: 44
    Thx, you're right your technique works.

    I have just noticed I have the same problem with two Mad Catz TE2.
    Sony should better be looking at the issue.

    I had definitely not had this problem before the lastest PS4 update.
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 25,061
    I am thinking the whole guess/user thing is more trouble than it's worth.
    Is it necessary to load up the other person profile and user name from the network?

    Yes I know there is the generic GUESS option, Also console have multiple users, but it was alot more simple before.
    Before it was plug in your controller and hit start
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  • AtariAtari Joined: Posts: 15
    I was wondering if anyone could help me with a PS360+ (with Crosssbone mod for XB1) / FC4 dual mod. I'm having an issue similar to someone earlier in this thread where the controller will randomly disconnect. According to the discussion in the thread, it seems the issue can be solved by adding a diode somewhere in the circuit. Unfortunately I had purchased this from someone rather than doing it myself and I'm not super familiar with the circuitry, whether they had put a diode, and if not, where/how I do this. Here are some images of the board, and any advice would be appreciated!
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  • Zabuza22Zabuza22 Joined: Posts: 189
    edited April 2016
    Ok so I am looking to buy a PS4 mkx fightpad. Im looking to add this into my MAS arcade stick. Which currently has an xbox 360 madcatz fight pad pcb. I daisy changed the ground to all the buttons and Im using a wico perfect 360 joystick so I need the 5v. I wanted to add the MKX pcb in it. So it will have both pcbs in it. Will i run into any issues? Also how do I wire it so I can use both ps3 and ps4 because I want to use it on my pc for mame. Please help me And thank you. All your help is appreciated
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 25,061
    jerseyto wrote: »
    I was wondering if anyone could help me with a PS360+ (with Crosssbone mod for XB1) / FC4 dual mod. I'm having an issue similar to someone earlier in this thread where the controller will randomly disconnect. According to the discussion in the thread, it seems the issue can be solved by adding a diode somewhere in the circuit. Unfortunately I had purchased this from someone rather than doing it myself and I'm not super familiar with the circuitry, whether they had put a diode, and if not, where/how I do this. Here are some images of the board, and any advice would be appreciated!

    I love to help, but I see nothing wrong from the wiring it self. There is some things I would of done differently but that wouldn't cause or prevent a electrical issue.
    I am curious whats the DB 15 connectors for. I am all for work that can be taken apart, but the DB15 looks redundant to me.

    Can you tell me more about the disconnects, does it happens on all systems or only certain ones?
    Also did you try to swap your USB Cable going from your stick with a different one?
    Sometimes it's something stupid like a damaged USB cable.
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  • AtariAtari Joined: Posts: 15
    edited April 2016
    Darksakul wrote: »
    I love to help, but I see nothing wrong from the wiring it self. There is some things I would of done differently but that wouldn't cause or prevent a electrical issue.
    I am curious whats the DB 15 connectors for. I am all for work that can be taken apart, but the DB15 looks redundant to me.

    Can you tell me more about the disconnects, does it happens on all systems or only certain ones?
    Also did you try to swap your USB Cable going from your stick with a different one?
    Sometimes it's something stupid like a damaged USB cable.

    Darksakul, thanks for your reply! So the DB15 connectors are so I have a quick disconnect for the top of the stick. That was at my request as I wanted two tops: one with a Street Fighter 8-button configuration, and one with an old Mortal Kombat ("X" style) config. With the DB15 connector, I just have to unscrew the top (screws access through the bottom of the case), and switch the connection so it's way faster than any other way of doing it, at least that we thought of. (On a side note, I ultimately switched to pad for MK, and on top of that, the guy who I bought this from (who is fairly well-known) still hasn't delivered the MK top, and I ordered it in August!) The whole reason for the custom build was to get the changable tops, as well as space for IL parts, which I prefer. And I wanted to keep PS2 compatability so that's why we did the padhack plus the PS360+ (and the Brooks didn't exist when I ordered so I guess that plus PS360+ could have been an option). So now I feel dumber, since I could now have used a Brook, I don't use a stick for MK, the guy did such a bad job on the finish that I took it apart and sanded it down and am currently repainting/restaining it, and I now see that there is a fellow by the name of Souji who makes sticks with IL/Happ. So basically I really regret this entire endeavor, but for what he charged me (an astronomical sum, about triple what Soiji does for a basic stick), I really want to make this work.

    The disconnects seem to happen randomly. Interestingly, I still haven't gotten one on my personal PS4, but at casuals and tournaments, it has disconnected. All in all, it's probably happened on at least 5 different PS4s. I've even gotten them when the other player connects their stick, which is why I thought this might have something to do with power/voltage. But otherwise it's random, and it can go well over 8 minutes without a problem, then all of a sudden, it will disconnect.

    I did try swapping the USB cable to rule that out as the cause, both shorter and newer. I have 3 RJ45 to USB cables, and it's disconnected on all of them.

    Can I ask you about the diode that's been previously mentioned in the thread, several pages back. Is that something that would address a power/voltage issue? From the pictures, does it look like he used a diode? (Or if unclear, I can take more.) Thanks again!

    EDIT: Just thinking about the cable, I wonder if the fact that I'm using RJ45 on the stick end rather than USB might be contributing to the problem? Anything about RJ45 that the Hori pad, or the PS4 itself, might not like? Just spit-balling...
  • Zabuza22Zabuza22 Joined: Posts: 189
    If using the mkx ps4 fight pad in a stand alone mod. I know it does not need any diodes. How do I use the PS3/ps4 switch to go back and forth from PS3 to ps4? Or can j just make it dedicated to only ps4? Thank you
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 25,061
    jerseyto wrote: »
    Darksakul wrote: »
    I love to help, but I see nothing wrong from the wiring it self. There is some things I would of done differently but that wouldn't cause or prevent a electrical issue.
    I am curious whats the DB 15 connectors for. I am all for work that can be taken apart, but the DB15 looks redundant to me.

    Can you tell me more about the disconnects, does it happens on all systems or only certain ones?
    Also did you try to swap your USB Cable going from your stick with a different one?
    Sometimes it's something stupid like a damaged USB cable.

    Darksakul, thanks for your reply! So the DB15 connectors are so I have a quick disconnect for the top of the stick. That was at my request as I wanted two tops: one with a Street Fighter 8-button configuration, and one with an old Mortal Kombat ("X" style) config. With the DB15 connector, I just have to unscrew the top (screws access through the bottom of the case), and switch the connection so it's way faster than any other way of doing it, at least that we thought of. (On a side note, I ultimately switched to pad for MK, and on top of that, the guy who I bought this from (who is fairly well-known) still hasn't delivered the MK top, and I ordered it in August!) The whole reason for the custom build was to get the changable tops, as well as space for IL parts, which I prefer. And I wanted to keep PS2 compatability so that's why we did the padhack plus the PS360+ (and the Brooks didn't exist when I ordered so I guess that plus PS360+ could have been an option). So now I feel dumber, since I could now have used a Brook, I don't use a stick for MK, the guy did such a bad job on the finish that I took it apart and sanded it down and am currently repainting/restaining it, and I now see that there is a fellow by the name of Souji who makes sticks with IL/Happ. So basically I really regret this entire endeavor, but for what he charged me (an astronomical sum, about triple what Soiji does for a basic stick), I really want to make this work.

    The disconnects seem to happen randomly. Interestingly, I still haven't gotten one on my personal PS4, but at casuals and tournaments, it has disconnected. All in all, it's probably happened on at least 5 different PS4s. I've even gotten them when the other player connects their stick, which is why I thought this might have something to do with power/voltage. But otherwise it's random, and it can go well over 8 minutes without a problem, then all of a sudden, it will disconnect.

    I did try swapping the USB cable to rule that out as the cause, both shorter and newer. I have 3 RJ45 to USB cables, and it's disconnected on all of them.

    Can I ask you about the diode that's been previously mentioned in the thread, several pages back. Is that something that would address a power/voltage issue? From the pictures, does it look like he used a diode? (Or if unclear, I can take more.) Thanks again!

    EDIT: Just thinking about the cable, I wonder if the fact that I'm using RJ45 on the stick end rather than USB might be contributing to the problem? Anything about RJ45 that the Hori pad, or the PS4 itself, might not like? Just spit-balling...

    Let me think
    I wonder if the fact that I'm using RJ45 on the stick end rather than USB might be contributing to the problem?
    No this isn't it as electrically everything should be still the same. Your electronics don't care what connectors you use.

    I am wondering why the RJ45 connector is hot glued into place into the PS360+.
    That could of have the retaining pin broken off, and the glue started to stretch but that is just a though.

    Well for diodes

    Last I check its the PDP Mortal Kombat X FightPad that needs diodes and not the Hori Fighting Commander 4.
    I even done Dual mods with the Hori Fighting Commander 4 and didn't need diodes.


    Here are two links to help explain about diodes one @Jasen Hicks wrote and one I wrote.
    http://www.thesupergun.com/electrical/hori-vlx-2015-edition-setting-mods-diode-edition/

    http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/202504/diodes-basics-101

    Just FYI here is how you use diodes in a Pad hack for dual mods
    Pad Hacks
    Some PCBs for Dual-Mods require diodes to be installed. The Diode is soldered to the signal line/pad/terminal of the PCB with the other end going with that button signal line to the rest of your Dual mod.
    The anode (-) end of the diode is to be soldered to the PCB and the cathode end going towards your buttons.

    For every wire except for your USB lines, all those button and directions signals will need a diode.

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  • Zabuza22Zabuza22 Joined: Posts: 189
    What kind of diode for the ps4 mkx pdp. There is a lot of them
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 25,061
    Zabuza22 wrote: »
    What kind of diode for the ps4 mkx pdp. There is a lot of them

    For our applications any signal diode would do, despite the material of the semiconductor or the housing to the diode it self.
    You can also get away with a Zener Diode , a Schottky Diode or a rectifier diode. as long as the diode acts as a one way check valve.
    And don't worry too about the milliamp rating, your PCB isn't going to supply enough power on those signal lines to hurt any diodes.

    If you read the link I left, I already covered that and even the mouser and digikey part numbers
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  • toddler316toddler316 Drunk Shit Hustler Joined: Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 2016
    Zabuza22 wrote: »
    What kind of diode for the ps4 mkx pdp. There is a lot of them

    Lol i linked you the exact diode in the other thread you posted in.

    The ones i used were

    http://www.amazon.com/1N4148-IN4148-DO-35-switching-signal/dp/B00Y5EJVN4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

    *edit for being too early
    Post edited by toddler316 on
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  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 25,061
    edited April 2016
    toddler316 wrote: »
    Zabuza22 wrote: »
    What kind of diode for the ps4 mkx pdp. There is a lot of them

    Lol i linked you the exact diode in the other thread you posted in.

    The ones i used were

    http://www.amazon.com/1N4148-IN4148-DO-35-switching-signal/dp/B00Y5EJVN4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

    *edit for being too early
    $5 for 100 diodes is a good price

    with this link here I linked to my guide
    http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/202504/diodes-basics-101

    Digikey part # : 568-1360-2-ND and the Mouser part # 771-1N4148-T/R
    They are about 10 cents each, apparently at this time those particular diodes aren't available but the Digikey page does offer alternatives.

    So at 10 cents apiece 100 diodes is about $10 dollars, toddler316's diodes are approx 5 cents each.
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  • toddler316toddler316 Drunk Shit Hustler Joined: Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Darksakul wrote: »
    toddler316 wrote: »
    Zabuza22 wrote: »
    What kind of diode for the ps4 mkx pdp. There is a lot of them

    Lol i linked you the exact diode in the other thread you posted in.

    The ones i used were

    http://www.amazon.com/1N4148-IN4148-DO-35-switching-signal/dp/B00Y5EJVN4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

    *edit for being too early
    $5 for 100 diodes is a good price

    with this link here I linked to my guide
    http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/202504/diodes-basics-101

    Digikey part # : 568-1360-2-ND and the Mouser part # 771-1N4148-T/R
    They are about 10 cents each, apparently at this time those particular diodes aren't available but the Digikey page does offer alternatives.

    So at 10 cents apiece 100 diodes is about $10 dollars, toddler316's diodes are approx 5 cents each.

    I'm a fan of both digikey and mouser and have ordered from them before but especially with a one off part, shipping kills it unfortunately.
    My orders to those sites tend to only be when i absolutely cannot find one anywhere else that i trust, or in bulk.
    Russell Crowe: This is Tianamen Square. Lots of good fightin' has gone on here throughout the years.These China men can grow to over five feet tall, and in a fight, are known to kick with their legs.

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  • GummoGummo Can We Mod It? Yes, We Can! Joined: Posts: 5,530
    Stock up on 10k resistors and hex inverters along with the diodes then.
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  • Zabuza22Zabuza22 Joined: Posts: 189
    edited April 2016
    Ok so after reading This thread and the dual modding 101 thread. I can say I have a decent understanding a good direction on what to do. My only thing is how to switch from PS3 to ps4 and pc. In any case that would be irrelevant since I plan on only using the stick for street fighter 5 and Xbox 360

    I would like to thank @Vicko @Darksakul and @Gummo for there help.
    Post edited by Zabuza22 on
  • ChonFxChonFx Joined: Posts: 32
    i have a stick i just bought, it´s a te2+ ryu edition for ps3/ps4, i bought a mkx pad for xbox one/360, i´ve wired everything up, i bought diodes. cathode is soldered to the mkx pad and the anode to the te2+ pcb, i know if i solder the cathode to the button wire it´s working, but i would pretty like to use the connectors on the te2+ pcb side. i mean someway that i dont need to wire from the mkx pad to the button. any help? ideas?
  • GummoGummo Can We Mod It? Yes, We Can! Joined: Posts: 5,530
    You either cut the wire harnesses and solder to the cathode side or desolder the headers and wire the headers to the cathode side.
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  • ChonFxChonFx Joined: Posts: 32
    Gummo wrote: »
    You either cut the wire harnesses and solder to the cathode side or desolder the headers and wire the headers to the cathode side.

    what do you mean by headers?
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 25,061
    ChonFx wrote: »
    Gummo wrote: »
    You either cut the wire harnesses and solder to the cathode side or desolder the headers and wire the headers to the cathode side.

    what do you mean by headers?

    They are the connectors on the board
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  • ChonFxChonFx Joined: Posts: 32
    so basically i need to remove every connector from the stock pcb (te2+) , stick directions, buttons(x,L2,L1,....),buttons (ps,sm,options,share) , and wire them to the mkx pad (cathode side)?
  • VickoVicko Vegas Modder Extraordinaire! Joined: Posts: 2,832
    yep
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  • zoslazosla Joined: Posts: 85
    @Vicko or anyone who can help.
    I am setting up the below and want to confirm how does LED work on dual modding?
    Currently the main PCB have the LED lighting up, if I am to add another PCB as a dual mod. Is it a simple signal exchange from my new PCB? or does extra wiring required to get the LED working as well?
    Thanks.

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  • VickoVicko Vegas Modder Extraordinaire! Joined: Posts: 2,832
    Just connect all the inputs and power/ground to all PCBs.
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  • zoslazosla Joined: Posts: 85
    @Vicko Normally, the GRD and VCC are a must for both boards. As for the connection for buttons and direction, I normally just connect the signals only from the second PCB to the main PCB.
    Is this sufficient? or is it different for LED dual modding? eg: instead of just signal from the secondary PCB, I should connect the grounds as well?
    Thanks.
  • VickoVicko Vegas Modder Extraordinaire! Joined: Posts: 2,832
    just daisy chain them all together. It's essentially a tri mod. A to A to A, B to B to B, etc
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  • zoslazosla Joined: Posts: 85
    @Vicko But my second pcb don't have the extra two wires for each of the LEDs which my first PCB have? would I somehow need to get my secondary PCB to have those extra LED wires?
  • VickoVicko Vegas Modder Extraordinaire! Joined: Posts: 2,832
    You're only wiring the inputs, not the LEDs. So it's basically a dual mod. If the first PCB already has the LEDs connected, you don't need to wire them all together.

    If your first PCB is fine with LEDs, just connect all the inputs from the 2nd PCB to the first one. Don't worry about the LEDs.
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  • Sleepy ZeroSleepy Zero The Other Lee Player Joined: Posts: 547
    edited May 2016
    Just checking before I go through with this. A fine grit sand paper would be a safe way to remove the rubber covers on the Hori FC4 for soldering right?
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  • VickoVicko Vegas Modder Extraordinaire! Joined: Posts: 2,832
    I scrape with an xacto knife, but just solder on the back using the test points. Less work, much cleaner.
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  • Sleepy ZeroSleepy Zero The Other Lee Player Joined: Posts: 547
    Vicko wrote: »
    I scrape with an xacto knife, but just solder on the back using the test points. Less work, much cleaner.

    So I take it the metal plates underneath them are not easily damaged if you're using a fucking xacto knife to scrap the rubber off.
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  • VickoVicko Vegas Modder Extraordinaire! Joined: Posts: 2,832
    Depends how rough you are. By your tone it seems you are in disbelief that this is acceptable. I said an xacto knife, not a chainsaw.

    First of all, it's graphite, not rubber.
    Second, you don't need a lot of force or even a sharp blade to scrape it. Be gentle and patient and you'll be fine. Or, go get a scraper from Radio Shack like Gummo posted in the first party ps4 hack thread.
    Finally, you don't need to scrape the entire face of the pad off, just enough to solder to.

    Be a champ and solder to the back.
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  • zoslazosla Joined: Posts: 85
    Thanks @Vicko for confirming :) Always a great help.
  • ThamanatorThamanator Joined: Posts: 73
    edited May 2016
    It is barely harder than using a quarter to scrape off a scratch and win ticket! LOL
  • Sleepy ZeroSleepy Zero The Other Lee Player Joined: Posts: 547
    Vicko wrote: »
    Depends how rough you are. By your tone it seems you are in disbelief that this is acceptable. I said an xacto knife, not a chainsaw.

    First of all, it's graphite, not rubber.
    Second, you don't need a lot of force or even a sharp blade to scrape it. Be gentle and patient and you'll be fine. Or, go get a scraper from Radio Shack like Gummo posted in the first party ps4 hack thread.
    Finally, you don't need to scrape the entire face of the pad off, just enough to solder to.

    Be a champ and solder to the back.

    Sweet. Thanks for going on side tangents about graphite, soldering to the back, & scrappers from a store that is out of business instead of actually answering my question directly. Seriously is it so hard to have said. "No, you should be fine doing it that way"
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  • VickoVicko Vegas Modder Extraordinaire! Joined: Posts: 2,832
    Radio shack is plenty in business, and then there's eBay, Amazon, etc.

    Also, your attitude needs to be corrected before I just come out and spoon feed you anything. I think I am doing a better service educating you rather than coddling you. My answers are for everyone, not just you.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 25,061
    Vicko wrote: »
    Radio shack is plenty in business, and then there's eBay, Amazon, etc.

    Also, your attitude needs to be corrected before I just come out and spoon feed you anything. I think I am doing a better service educating you rather than coddling you. My answers are for everyone, not just you.

    Thats depends where you are located, all the Radio Snacks near me went out of business, and I am not driving an hour for over price components when I can order the same or better parts cheaper online.
    8 bucks for 5 resistors is crazy, especially when I can get a 100 resistors for $5 on Amazon.
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  • [OCT]Wall-Garants[OCT]Wall-Garants Joined: Posts: 45
    edited May 2016
    My project with the PCBs Paewang and Hori Commander 4, working perfectly with the tutorials posted here. Thanks guys
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  • SharntSharnt Joined: Posts: 356
    Hey guys I have a stupid issue with my HC4. I tried to remove the screw to open the pad but 5 out of the 8 screw heads died while I tried to remove them. I tried to use a bigger screw to mark an indent and then use it to unscrew to no effect. Any idea ????
  • RoyalFlushTZRoyalFlushTZ *Not a Ryu cosplayer! Joined: Posts: 1,464
    Sharnt wrote: »
    Hey guys I have a stupid issue with my HC4. I tried to remove the screw to open the pad but 5 out of the 8 screw heads died while I tried to remove them. I tried to use a bigger screw to mark an indent and then use it to unscrew to no effect. Any idea ????

    Dremel the heck out of the plastic shell.
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