M.Bison General Thread: Come here prepared to fight a madman, and instead you will find a GOD!

DaemosDaemos God of FuckJoined: Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
edited February 2016 in M. Bison
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Welcome to the loving grip of the PAX BISONICA!!!

For us the day Bison was revealed in SFV was the most important day of our lives, but for him... It was Tuesday. No really, it was Tuesday. ITT this we celebrate the return of our glorious dictator and/or tremble in awe. Here we can socialize with one another and talk about evil things. Plotting, scheming, and planning for world domination are the ideal preferred subjects but if not, let's keep it Street Fighter related at least.

No spamming (Unless it's Psycho Axe or HK).
No flaming (unless they are purple flames).
Also if you are Charlie Nash or Akuma GTFO immediately.



What was teased at first:

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Possible inspiration for 'trench coat appearance':

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What was finally revealed:



YOUR LORD AND MASTER HATH ARRIVED!!!!

More Bison porn here: http://www.ign.com/images/games/street-fighter-5-ps4-20020046/555a444bd9a78945d5eefc7f

Bison Fight ID Cards:

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  • FaceMeAndBeBrokenFaceMeAndBeBroken FUCK JAPANESE STICKS Joined: Posts: 3,518
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  • PSYCH0J0SHPSYCH0J0SH Joined: Posts: 4,673
    Woo, yeah, he's back. Whatever. Who cares.
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  • echelonNYKechelonNYK Sleepwalking in the minefield Joined: Posts: 2,974
    I care. He's my SF4 main. Unfortunately, i don't see myself maining him in this game.
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  • Ro_knowsRo_knows Joined: Posts: 60
    With the cape if he's at full power with a projectile and some of his omega moves he's gonna be a problem
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  • ProjectjusticeProjectjustice Psycho Denji Joined: Posts: 2,739
    This is delicious! Im a very happy camper with the character selection so far in SFV.

    Keep it coming Capcom!
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  • DaemosDaemos God of Fuck Joined: Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    echelonNYK wrote: »
    I care. He's my SF4 main. Unfortunately, i don't see myself maining him in this game.

    How can you see something like that when we haven't even seen him play yet? I'm expecting a big jump in his playstyle and specials moves, the equivalent of what SF2 characters went through when they appeared in SFA or SF3. Also if SF4 Omega is any indication, we could be in for a real treat.
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  • YorKeYYorKeY Watch Maxshillian stream or else. Joined: Posts: 5,561
    edited February 2015
    Eh, Bison, Charlie thread seems hype, but not a thread for a character that i have had a mental block when fighting for the past couple of years gets a thread, yawn.
    Some traditions need to die, some new bad guy blood would be nice, Gill, then Juri in Super were the best things that happened to SF in terms of villians in a long time.
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  • iDelyiDely ...into oblivion Joined: Posts: 19
    Since I'm only playing Shadowlaw characters (not intentionally tho), I'm hyped. But since Charlie is in this game, it was kinda clear to see Bison as well.
    yoooooo..... gone for 5 years and now look at this...
  • DaemosDaemos God of Fuck Joined: Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited February 2015
    YorKeY wrote: »
    Eh, Bison, Charlie thread seems hype, but not a thread for a character that i have had a mental block when fighting for the past couple of years gets a thread, yawn.
    Some traditions need to die, some new bad guy blood would be nice, Gill, then Juri in Super were the best things that happened to SF in terms of villians in a long time.

    Bison is likely not the main villain this game. They wouldn't reveal the main boss so soon. The need for a new bad guy should not be a reason to discard a character with a rich pop culture history, large fanbase, and a unique playstyle. There's enough room for several bad guys always.
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  • iDelyiDely ...into oblivion Joined: Posts: 19
    Daemos wrote: »
    Bison is likely not the main villain this game. They wouldn't reveal the main boss so soon. The need for a new bad guy should not be a reason to discard a character with a rich pop culture history, large fanbase, and a unique playstyle. There's enough room for several bad guys always.

    Agreed on that! Do you think Gill is making a comeback? Or is it going to be Seth? I think Seth is unlikely tho. I hope they come up with something good.
    yoooooo..... gone for 5 years and now look at this...
  • javertjavert 'sup Joined: Posts: 1,073
    He is going to compete with the new boss for the spotlight and one of them is going to be downplayed. Even without the other design issues, Seth can's be taken seriously because at the end he was a typical Starscream. So either the new villain gets to play the same role, or this time Bison gets to play the chump in order to make him appear badass. Lose-lose situation.
  • iDelyiDely ...into oblivion Joined: Posts: 19
    Bet Bison is unstoppable in SFV, since he turns Super Saiyan in the teaser
    yoooooo..... gone for 5 years and now look at this...
  • DaemosDaemos God of Fuck Joined: Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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    javert wrote: »
    He is going to compete with the new boss for the spotlight and one of them is going to be downplayed. Even without the other design issues, Seth can's be taken seriously because at the end he was a typical Starscream. So either the new villain gets to play the same role, or this time Bison gets to play the chump in order to make him appear badass. Lose-lose situation.

    Does Akuma play the chump for Bison? Did Juri play the chump for Seth or Bison? Did Urien play the chump for Gill? Each and every one of these were different shades of evil but all evil nevertheless. I don't see it as a lose-lose situation, it all comes down to how it is handled. But Bison is THE SF villain and will always be as such, for better or worse. No new boss will ever change this in the minds of people.

    @iDely Yes I think the Illuminati will be the main villains, whether this takes place before or after 3, I think they will be the ones helming the tournament.
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  • javertjavert 'sup Joined: Posts: 1,073
    Daemos wrote: »
    javert wrote: »
    He is going to compete with the new boss for the spotlight and one of them is going to be downplayed. Even without the other design issues, Seth can's be taken seriously because at the end he was a typical Starscream. So either the new villain gets to play the same role, or this time Bison gets to play the chump in order to make him appear badass. Lose-lose situation.

    Does Akuma play the chump for Bison? Did Juri play the chump for Seth or Bison? Did Urien play the chump for Gill? Each and every one of these were different shades of evil but all evil nevertheless. I don't see it as a lose-lose situation, it all comes down to how it is handled. But Bison is THE SF villain and will always be as such, for better or worse. No new boss will ever change this in the minds of people.

    Bison is Akuma's default bitch, the standard recipient for the shun goku satsu and that's the way Akuma got its badass credit. Urien and Juri aren't main villains, but they aren't the bosses either.

    I'm pretty much as sick of you of the story being every character being in the game just because they want settle score with Bison, that's another reason I wanted him out and see Capcom giving the characters new and interesting reasons to keep fighting. Let's see if they are willing to give the story an interesting twist, but I'm not holding my breath.

  • FengShuiEnergyFengShuiEnergy ARIA is the only answer Joined: Posts: 10,496
    edited February 2015
    Well most of the other non bison related issues like makoto's, ibuki's, cody's, rufus, blanka's, dhalsim's, fei long's and then some. All their story arcs...kinda sucked. The shadaloo takedown is the main story arc. The Dark hado is a sub plot. I don't consider Ryu or any of the of the hado users really relevant to the main plot anymore. Once (and hopefully for all) Ryu kicks akumas ass and kills him and goes to live his life as a monk as predicted by ingrid.

    I do enjoy the "everyone wants Bison dead thing." It's just how one would go about it.

    Bottom line is...I want Juri to have all the spotlight. :smiley:
  • DaemosDaemos God of Fuck Joined: Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Well Ryu and possibly Akuma will inevitably intersect with Bison and Shadaloo arc. Mainly because Bison still wants to possess Ryu's body as of SF4. Rose recognizes this ultimate ambition and warns Ryu in her rival battle of SF4. Rose will help bridge the hadou subplot with the Shadaloo arc.

    So I wouldn't say the hadou users are completely irrelevant. Akuma and Bison could actually duke it out for Ryu's fate. Ryu and Bison could still finally meet before or after Ryu takes care of Akuma. There is still potential for growth.

    I do agree though that I hope they handle the main arc in a less cliche and predictable manner and just take it into a new unexpected direction.

    I'm all for Juri being part of it too. It would be a disappointment to introduce such an amazing character then throw her away.
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  • FengShuiEnergyFengShuiEnergy ARIA is the only answer Joined: Posts: 10,496
    Daemos wrote: »
    Well Ryu and possibly Akuma will inevitably intersect with Bison and Shadaloo arc. Mainly because Bison still wants to possess Ryu's body as of SF4. Rose recognizes this ultimate ambition and warns Ryu in her rival battle of SF4. Rose will help bridge the hadou subplot with the Shadaloo arc.

    So I wouldn't say the hadou users are completely irrelevant. Akuma and Bison could actually duke it out for Ryu's fate. Ryu and Bison could still finally meet before or after Ryu takes care of Akuma. There is still potential for growth.

    I do agree though that I hope they handle the main arc in a less cliche and predictable manner and just take it into a new unexpected direction.

    I'm all for Juri being part of it too. It would be a disappointment to introduce such an amazing character then throw her away.

    Bison and Akuma fighting over Ryu. That sounds more Gouken-ish then Bison.

    I feel as though Ryu doesn't have as strong of a urge to defeat Bison then the other more centered Bison haters. I can totally see Guile taking on charlie as his "main bad guy" now. That just leaves Chun-Li, Cammy, Rose, T.Hawk, (sagat?), Guy and of course the one and only Ms. Han.

    I would Say akuma but....his track record of finishing a job isn't exactly "top notch." That and his beef is with Ryu, Ken and Gouken. Moreso Ryu and Gouken. For some reason I foresee Ken aiding Chun-Li against Bison.
  • MaxmanMaxman Joined: Posts: 1,418
    I figured the moment I saw the Bison tease that M.Bison players will be reeeeeally wet
  • ExposedDExposedD Hyena Joined: Posts: 6,026
    Give him some damageoutput and TOD combos , please.
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  • MaxmanMaxman Joined: Posts: 1,418
    Hm, I could see that tease totally being the animation for when Bison activates his V-Trigger mode
  • Vampire_SaviourVampire_Saviour R4 Joined: Posts: 333
    Damn they can't come up with anything new can they?
  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,824
    I think it would be nice of them to go the Alpha 2 route and have multiple bosses based on who you played as. Dic still has story with some characters, not so much with others. That's where having a new boss or different character would help the branching stories.
  • jebopjebop Joined: Posts: 6,890
    edited February 2015
    Let's be real, if Bison were to be in this game, you would all rage quit him 1 month max.

    Oh yeah, Seth is such a lame villain. Capcom can't use new content. Let's get hype for Gill instead. Gtfo.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 34,391 mod
    Make Urien the final boss, complete with the unblockable glitch.
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  • DaemosDaemos God of Fuck Joined: Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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    Urien being the final boss makes sense. If this game takes place before SF3, it would a nice set up for his brother. If this game takes place after 3, then Urien could also make sense as he could've usurped his brother's position. Having said that, I'm not fond of the idea of 2 naked and VERY similar aesthetically bosses back to back.

    SF1 - Naked and bald mountain of muscle in kick boxing shorts

    SF2 - THE ULTIMATE FIGHTING GAME VILLAIN EVARR!!! /stan

    SF3 - Naked, half ice, half fire, mountain of muscle in a thong.

    SF4 - Naked and cybernetically augmented mountain of muscle. No need for under pants at all.

    SF5 - ???

    If we're getting a new boss, make him count. If we're getting Urien, some reimagination of his art concept maybe in order even though I love the way he looks. Personally, I wouldn't mind dropping the 'tournament' plot device as a vehicle of bringing all these characters together and just go back to SFA2, where everyone had their own thing going on and their own sub-bosses and boss, some would overlap with others, and some would be very isolated in their stories. SF4 did do a good job with the tournament plot device though, relatively speaking.
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  • CestusCestus Sorry for my english :D Joined: Posts: 4,746
    Daemos wrote: »

    If we're getting a new boss, make him count.

    Urien at this point can fit the badass villain wannabe like Dictator, we already seen him as normal character and being the bitch of Gill, the last Boss aura is kinda lost (and imho they wasted the opportunity to make him SF3 Boss, Gill was boring)

    Btw i hope they do a total new character as Boss, hopefully keeping SF design philosophy, so nothing too try hard edgy like a girl, or some skinny KoF wannabe douche, or aliens, or gods.
    Imho for SF Boss best route is go for old school badass, characters like Dictator, Geese Howard, Urien, Rugal and so on

    Seth was'nt that bad as boss (on contrary, the concept of a Bison puppet that develop similar megalomania and rebel was nice) as long he got that snob clothes on artwork/animated scenes. He got some Geese arrogant crime lord aura

    Too bad ingame is only a generic naked cyborg douchebag that keep random laughing like if was'nt created without penis
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  • SideshowRobSideshowRob Brb, busy saving anime Joined: Posts: 321
    I feel like if this game canonizes Urien's Third Strike ending, his command of the Illuminati should be thrown into question. Like, the organization is split on whether he truly deserves to be in control (especially seeing as he ruined their prophecy and killed their messiah [yes, I'm asking for a not-so-blatant sequel to III]).

    From there, work in the kid from Boxer's IV endings. Years older though, considering the timeline. Late teens, early twenties. The illuminati had bought him from boxer after Seth's tournament, believing him to be their true savior and trained him for the candidacy of the presidency. Now with the organization split and on the brink of chaos, a faction puts him forth as Gill's true successor and, I dunno, organizes the tournament to test him and throw out Urien.

    ...Yes, the kid's the final boss. He probably Brollies out into an unstoppable rage monster at the beginning of the match. Uses elements like Gill and Urien since that's what the prophecy calls for.

    ....actually that works out better than I'd hoped, considering the element themed visuals of v-trigger/instinct/EX mode.

    ...Oh and Bison finally learns his secret manipulative organization had been secretly manipulated the whole time and, seeing as Shadaloo's done, seeks to make the Illuminati his own.
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    I just want him to have the Psycho Banish again.
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  • DaemosDaemos God of Fuck Joined: Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    My dream Bison move list would include Final Psycho Crusher, telekinetic normal throws, overhead and Jin's fireball move from SFxT.

    I also really liked the Psycho Punisher, albeit it could've been improved gameplay wise but conceptually it was awesome and reminded me of the SF2 Animated Movie.
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  • blufangblufang Devour! Joined: Posts: 4,486
    It will likely be a new boss, however for the love of god please no recycling? Seth recycled Urien's model and moves and of course a bunch of specials/normals from other characters. Gill recycled some of Urien's stuff (though to be fair it is impressive that the SF3 series had 2 separate final bosses).

    Oh yeah and no naked dudes plz.




  • CestusCestus Sorry for my english :D Joined: Posts: 4,746
    The boss may be the 4th character of the Ken Bogard rumor
    It was rumored we will get 4 new char
    But are made only 3 names (Rachid, Laura, Zen) and 3 possible countries (North Africa, Brazil, India)

    He said that he don't know the 4th, maybe Capcom did'nt show it on purpose to avoid leaks on the boss?
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  • blufangblufang Devour! Joined: Posts: 4,486
    So 4 new characters (one being the boss), and 16 total characters. (rumored)

    Ryu, Chun Li, Nash, and Bison are aleady in. That means only 8 more spots for returning characters. I think reveal trailers will be linked...Bison has a strong connection to Nash obviously. So I think the strong possibilities for the character revealed after Bison are: Vega, Rose, or another doll.




  • FengShuiEnergyFengShuiEnergy ARIA is the only answer Joined: Posts: 10,496
    So 16 rumoured returning characters eh? I guess that leaves out a majority of the WW. I see this as the returning cast if 16 is the max for now.

    1. Juri
    2. Abel
    3. Ryu
    4. Chun-Li
    5. Cammy
    6. Akuma
    7. Viper
    8. Guile
    9. Ken
    10. Zangief
    11. Makoto
    12. Guy
    13. Cody
    14. Rose
    15. Sakura
    16. Bison
  • CestusCestus Sorry for my english :D Joined: Posts: 4,746
    So 16 rumoured returning characters eh? I guess that leaves out a majority of the WW. I see this as the returning cast if 16 is the max for now.

    1. Juri
    2. Abel
    3. Ryu
    4. Chun-Li
    5. Cammy
    6. Akuma
    7. Viper
    8. Guile
    9. Ken
    10. Zangief
    11. Makoto
    12. Guy
    13. Cody
    14. Rose
    15. Sakura
    16. Bison

    Is a joke?
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  • FengShuiEnergyFengShuiEnergy ARIA is the only answer Joined: Posts: 10,496
    Cestus wrote: »
    So 16 rumoured returning characters eh? I guess that leaves out a majority of the WW. I see this as the returning cast if 16 is the max for now.

    1. Juri
    2. Abel
    3. Ryu
    4. Chun-Li
    5. Cammy
    6. Akuma
    7. Viper
    8. Guile
    9. Ken
    10. Zangief
    11. Makoto
    12. Guy
    13. Cody
    14. Rose
    15. Sakura
    16. Bison

    Is a joke?

    Negatron. I said IF it's true that only 16 returning characters return (for starting out).
  • CestusCestus Sorry for my english :D Joined: Posts: 4,746
    Cestus wrote: »
    So 16 rumoured returning characters eh? I guess that leaves out a majority of the WW. I see this as the returning cast if 16 is the max for now.

    1. Juri
    2. Abel
    3. Ryu
    4. Chun-Li
    5. Cammy
    6. Akuma
    7. Viper
    8. Guile
    9. Ken
    10. Zangief
    11. Makoto
    12. Guy
    13. Cody
    14. Rose
    15. Sakura
    16. Bison

    Is a joke?

    Negatron. I said IF it's true that only 16 returning characters return (for starting out).

    In your list there is no Charlie, no 4 new characters (from the same rumor of 16 char), some very debatable returns, and some very likely returns out :D

    If we must believe the same source of the number 16 for the cast the situation is

    1. Ryu
    2. Chun Li
    3. Charlie
    4. Bison
    5.
    6.
    7.
    8.
    9.
    10.
    11.
    12.
    13. Rachid
    14. Laura
    15. Zen
    16. ???

    From there you have characters with higher chances to be in like example Ken, but also characters that like Charlie missed SF4 but are still very requested/popular like Alex,R.Mika,Urien,Karin and so on
    Akuma is another very likely, but hopefully he's some secret character shit out of basic 16

    Basically, if you want trust the "16 characters" dude, as now there are still 8 free slots
    And to fill it there will be some logic based on many factors (gameplay,popularity,archetypes,story,gender,game origin etcetc)

    Example, maybe one or more of them will be in, but i will not hold my breath for characters like Guy, Cody, Rose, Abel, Viper and maybe Makoto... and i say it as Cody player that hope a precious slot will not be wasted on some Sakura bs :D
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  • FengShuiEnergyFengShuiEnergy ARIA is the only answer Joined: Posts: 10,496
    Cestus wrote: »
    Cestus wrote: »
    So 16 rumoured returning characters eh? I guess that leaves out a majority of the WW. I see this as the returning cast if 16 is the max for now.

    1. Juri
    2. Abel
    3. Ryu
    4. Chun-Li
    5. Cammy
    6. Akuma
    7. Viper
    8. Guile
    9. Ken
    10. Zangief
    11. Makoto
    12. Guy
    13. Cody
    14. Rose
    15. Sakura
    16. Bison

    Is a joke?

    Negatron. I said IF it's true that only 16 returning characters return (for starting out).

    In your list there is no Charlie, no 4 new characters (from the same rumor of 16 char), some very debatable returns, and some very likely returns out :D

    If we must believe the same source of the number 16 for the cast the situation is

    1. Ryu
    2. Chun Li
    3. Charlie
    4. Bison
    5.
    6.
    7.
    8.
    9.
    10.
    11.
    12.
    13. Rachid
    14. Laura
    15. Zen
    16. ???

    From there you have characters with higher chances to be in like example Ken, but also characters that like Charlie missed SF4 but are still very requested/popular like Alex,R.Mika,Urien,Karin and so on
    Akuma is another very likely, but hopefully he's some secret character shit out of basic 16

    Basically, if you want trust the "16 characters" dude, as now there are still 8 free slots
    And to fill it there will be some logic based on many factors (gameplay,popularity,archetypes,story,gender,game origin etcetc)

    Example, maybe one or more of them will be in, but i will not hold my breath for characters like Guy, Cody, Rose, Abel, Viper and maybe Makoto... and i say it as Cody player that hope a precious slot will not be wasted on some Sakura bs :D

    Did I seriously forget Charlie? Wow.....*facepalm* Unbelievable.

    Anyway, I only put on viper, cody, guy, rose, abel and makoto because they seem to have a decent impact in the community. Abel, Rose and Guy easily have a bigger impact on the shadaloo arc then the other characters. Sakura I threw in there just because Capcom wouldn't do that to the female ryu. (They might wouldn't surprise me nor would it be a loss for me.)

    I'd say Alex, Urien for taking out cody and viper possibly. I dunno. I just hope Juri makes it in. That's my top priority.
  • MaxmanMaxman Joined: Posts: 1,418
    Hm, I remember stumbling upon a gamefaq thread which said that the 16 character roster rumour was a translation error and he only said that the roster would be "small"

    Ah here it is

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/895976-street-fighter-v/70764851?page=4

    Since everything there seems in order, I am inclined to believe it

    Maybe the roster size will be that of 3rd Strike or Vanilla SF4 ?
  • MetroxylonMetroxylon Missing link? Joined: Posts: 2,627
    Can we stop turning every new character reveal thread into some rumor mill thinking up who the remaining characters are going to be? I understand y'all are passionate about whichever characters, but it's like I'm reading the same comments no matter which thread I'm in...

    ANYWAY... if this is "new body" Bison, then I could imagine he won't play very similar to how he was in 4/alpha/2. Lookit Charlie Nash. His undead version in 5 looks to play nothing like how he was in alpha, and if Capcom wants characters to accurately represent their story lines, Bison could totally be redesigned as well. I'd love to see him have tandem engine if he's a charge character still (or hybrid?) and maybe not need a giant Taijitu for a stomach.
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  • CestusCestus Sorry for my english :D Joined: Posts: 4,746
    Metroxylon wrote: »
    Can we stop turning every new character reveal thread into some rumor mill thinking up who the remaining characters are going to be? I understand y'all are passionate about whichever characters, but it's like I'm reading the same comments no matter which thread I'm in...

    ANYWAY... if this is "new body" Bison, then I could imagine he won't play very similar to how he was in 4/alpha/2. Lookit Charlie Nash. His undead version in 5 looks to play nothing like how he was in alpha, and if Capcom wants characters to accurately represent their story lines, Bison could totally be redesigned as well. I'd love to see him have tandem engine if he's a charge character still (or hybrid?) and maybe not need a giant Taijitu for a stomach.

    If the silhuette suggest anything is that at least on chara design outside Ryu/Chun Li they may chose to take some risk... see Charlie, but also Bison having a new costume

    IF they're going to change gameplay too, personally i liked A LOT theyr Omega USF4 vision of the character

    Before i had him as one of my mains because fit my style and "loyalty", but with Omega it was the first time i had actually FUN playing him in SF4, and felt to play as a char with actual potential

    Even if SFV Bison is just a balanced adaptation of his Omega version + some new normals i will be fucking happy
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  • ForeverZeroForeverZero Buy Odins beer, bitch! Joined: Posts: 1,038
    Considering Charlie got a good deal of his Vs. series moves like the Moonsault Slash, Final Mission hyper, and Shadow-theme...I can see some of Bison's Vs. series moves being added or returned like the psycho shot, psycho field, and psycho explosion as additional moves. Bison does gain new powers depending on all the body switching he does.
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  • DaemosDaemos God of Fuck Joined: Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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    Moonchilde wrote: »
    I like that Charlie has some ridiculous new stuff. That's how it needs to be. I'm tired of them trying to translate characters made for other games into games with new mechanics not suited to them. See Vega (Claw) SF4. He was way too toned down and not all that different from ST. Omega did some cool stuff, and that's the direction I'd like to see characters evolve.

    Capcom doesn't need to make an all new cast, they can bring back favorites, but they need to freshen them up. If Dictator is going to be in the game, they need to give him his classic stuff and a bunch of new stuff as well. It's about time we start having characters who have both charge and motion special attacks. There is no reason to for Guile to have 2 special moves in his arsenal since WW. I can't wait to see what slick Dic can do.

    Agreed. There is even a larger pool of choices for Dic than someone like Charlie or Guile because of his many iterations in games, films, comics, etc. It's time they take advantage of that. Moves I'd like to see:

    Psycho Fist (Jin Kazama's Penetrating Fist from SFxT, probably replaces normal PC)
    Psycho Banish (CvS2)
    Death Flutter (Omega SF4, with all extensions)
    Ex Head Stomp (Omega SF4)
    Air Psycho Warp (Make it happen!)

    Psycho Cannon for Super 1 (SF EX; this is consistent with Psycho Fist special)
    Knee Press Nightmare for Super 2 (CvS2, SFEx version)

    Psycho Punisher for Revenge 1
    Final Psycho Crusher for Revenge 2

    Also Dictator's fighting stance, he's so crouched down but when he stands completely upright he towers over many members of the cast - this doesn't make sense for someone who views himself above everyone else. This is the kind of stuff that was inherited from SF2 and just needs to be laid to rest, allowing new interpretations of a character (like in the Alpha series) to take place without the limitations of previous graphics engines. Personally, I prefer that he's menacingly levitating during his fighting stance, forward, and backward movements on screen. Walking is for maggots.
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  • Super SonicSuper Sonic Joined: Posts: 1,159
    edited February 2015
    I'm really happy Bison wasn't left out! He's the real baddie of the series! Also, seeing as how this game revolves around "elements", they should make Gill the main antagonist (since he controls both ice and fire masterfully) and get his ass kicked by Bison. Seth is also welcome in my book for a threesome, but two naked male bodies would be too much for one game.
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  • CestusCestus Sorry for my english :D Joined: Posts: 4,746
    Daemos wrote: »
    Also Dictator's fighting stance, he's so crouched down but when he stands completely upright he towers over many members of the cast - this doesn't make sense for someone who views himself above everyone else. This is the kind of stuff that was inherited from SF2 and just needs to be laid to rest, allowing new interpretations of a character (like in the Alpha series) to take place without the limitations of previous graphics engines. Personally, I prefer that he's menacingly levitating during his fighting stance, forward, and backward movements on screen. Walking is for maggots.

    His stance is fuctional to his style, as all his normals are grounded and his gameplay involve a lot of crouch and DB charge
    Also under the more aestethic point of view it serve the purpose of look like he's ever well grounded and ready to deliver fierce strikes(be it huge punches, or steel covered thai kicks), and also that he's ever ready to do one of his ridicolous jumps
    Basically he's supposed to be a badass ever ready to explode violence at your face, rather than being one of those fg vain boss bitches in beautiful plastic pose or some over 9000 dbz wannabe

    While it's true that stance is inheredited from SF2 it still do his job nice, imho, specially now that he's no more the final boss

    What you suggest sound kinda Algol from SC (a character conceptually WAY more close to Gill), but imho will not work well with Bison moves aesthetic, and also with SF mechanics (many low attacks will whiff or do awkward ghost collision)

    Also i'm kinda biased toward fuctional/martial stance over aesthetic "i'm cool" ones

    See Charlie
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    Imho was better if they keep it kinda like that, maybe little tweaked to show the new colder/darker tone of the character
    SFV's one look way too much on the "omg i'm so cool in dat ninja pose" side, but still is not over the top as a fucking flying Bison :D

    All this about normal/vanilla/playable Bison, if they want do for the lulz a secret boss version of him a la Shin/Final Bison... sure why not, let him levitate stance, shot laser beam from his eyes and Psycho Fire from his ass, no problem with that
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  • DaemosDaemos God of Fuck Joined: Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited March 2015
    Yeah I guess you're right that levitating Bison would work best for an OP Final Bison boss type character and Bison is traditionally a fighter as much as he is a boss character so a fight ready stance fits.

    Still, we could get a fighting stance and walk closer to Dr Doom or Dormammu from MvC3. I think it would over all look better to have him more upright like them at least and it would be a middle road compromise that's between the hunched-over-infinite-handjob SF2 stance and his levitating OP stance. It would certainly look better with his new trench coat skirt thingy.
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  • MaxmanMaxman Joined: Posts: 1,418
    So I just picked up Bison for the first time today against a friend in Endless Battle

    And,, WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO

    Goddamn he is so FUN to play as Lol, his scissor kicks are freaking sweet , and this is coming from a Guy who used to hate Bison before

    Capcom what the hell are you doing roll out that Damn Bison Trailer FAST

  • SoVi3tSoVi3t Behind The Iron Curtain Joined: Posts: 29,170
    Please don't give me a weak "I need to find a new host body" Bison, and give me Bison after fully resting and getting accustomed to his new body.

    I wanna see him get some of his Omega moves. Teleport headstomp was pretty fun.
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