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  • jey-arejey-are Intermediate Noob Joined: Posts: 88
    just my opinion but the myoungshin bat top is really bad quality, mold lines everywhere, easy to scratch, sometimes, sprue points not fully cut, scratching your hand during play. One of the reasons I think we need a better solution (or wait for crown to release the frosted bat-top from that "infiltration" lever lol)

    that said, I've never extensively used a Crown handle/stick, is the acrylic susceptible to cracking? anyone experienced cracked crown handles?

    I got 2 Crown levers (303, 307) and they're both cracked on the bottom. Both almost in the same spot. Could be from me when I was first learning. I feel like my crown levers, one would had to put some muscle into movements. Maybe a combination of hard movement over time playing a factor? I use a M.Fanta now and that's no where near the case for me. A lot more sensitive.
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  • rbuniaorbuniao Joined: Posts: 169
    Finally got my golden fanta parts (as well as the 309mjs for my te2 and vewlix)

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  • Call2ArmsCall2Arms Now officially known as "Quinto." Joined: Posts: 163
    edited March 22
    @wazwuz After looking at my new golden Fanta grommets and my other grommets I got from you, I have 40, 45, 50, 55 (latex), 60, 65a tensions. lol it's gonna be a long night.
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  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    edited March 22

    EDIT: Additional thoughts. I will say that the switch stability plexi is a bit too big. For those who have the Makestick Pro or a TE2 with Jasen's Custom's Korean panel installed, the plexi cannot be used.

    2nd EDIT: There is no flathead screw point in the bottom of the shafts. It's a bit weird to tighten it by hand and something that has good grip than a normal screwdriver.

    The plexi is 5mm thick to ensure could handle the stress. You can try make 3mm plexi using file I attached earlier, hope it can fit inside the case.

    You can use plier to grip and hold the buttom part of the shaft and tighten the battop (I always use this method for sanwa :p). I use the buttom part of the shaft for labeling the shaft size.
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  • rbuniaorbuniao Joined: Posts: 169
    I haven't had any clearance issues with the stability plate yet (it closed on my te2+ with no issues). The grommet at first was hard to install but after using the original shaft to assist in installation, it was a little easier. As The Phamtomnaut stated, no flathead screwdriver point on the bottom of the shaft but I used pliers to tighten the PAS aluminum battop on the 10mm shaft.

    Day zero went with some minor hiccups but nothing major to doubt this product.
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    rbuniao wrote: »
    I haven't had any clearance issues with the stability plate yet (it closed on my te2+ with no issues). The grommet at first was hard to install but after using the original shaft to assist in installation, it was a little easier. As The Phamtomnaut stated, no flathead screwdriver point on the bottom of the shaft but I used pliers to tighten the PAS aluminum battop on the 10mm shaft.

    Day zero went with some minor hiccups but nothing major to doubt this product.

    Yes, red grommet is a bit challange to install. You can use some silicone grease to help the installation of the grommet. But Never use oil/petrol based lucbricant, it can damage silicones.
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  • Nobus3r1Nobus3r1 #RiseUp? Joined: Posts: 5,226
    @wazwuz I was just thinking that if you made the stability plate out of brass too that it would look kind of amazing and reduce clearance issues.
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  • rbuniaorbuniao Joined: Posts: 169
    Is Brass expensive? I was thinking how easy is it to replicate the switch support found in the Green Arcade levers.

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  • kodee vukodee vu Joined: Posts: 404
    Personal opinion thus far:

    Prefer the medium shaft and medium actuator. However, I still prefer the feeling of the standard Myoungshin battop over Sanwa. For that reason, last night I settled on Myoungshin battop, medium actuator, loosest silicone.

    Green silicone gave similar results to the red silicone available from Makestick, though corners felt less consistent for me with the ASI green. Don't know why.

    Will test more soon.

  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,761
    rbuniao wrote: »
    I haven't had any clearance issues with the stability plate yet (it closed on my te2+ with no issues). The grommet at first was hard to install but after using the original shaft to assist in installation, it was a little easier. As The Phamtomnaut stated, no flathead screwdriver point on the bottom of the shaft but I used pliers to tighten the PAS aluminum battop on the 10mm shaft.

    Day zero went with some minor hiccups but nothing major to doubt this product.

    Oh good to know about the TE2. Did misworded it anyways.
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    edited March 22
    rbuniao wrote: »
    Is Brass expensive? I was thinking how easy is it to replicate the switch support found in the Green Arcade levers.

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    Yes brass is expensive material, and bronze even more.
    I think AIrbag support is more superior than green lever. Green lever support also thick since it have couple nuts on it.
    Couple month ago I did install crown 303FK using 5mm switch support on TE2+ and it can fit/close perfectlly.
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  • Ghost CobraGhost Cobra Lever Execution Joined: Posts: 338 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    small comment during my tests
    got to [RED grom/10mm shaft/cones actu] set up and [AM51662C5N] don't have enough force to reset neutral they are too soft and directions got stuck.
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    kodee vu wrote: »
    Personal opinion thus far:

    Prefer the medium shaft and medium actuator. However, I still prefer the feeling of the standard Myoungshin battop over Sanwa. For that reason, last night I settled on Myoungshin battop, medium actuator, loosest silicone.

    Green silicone gave similar results to the red silicone available from Makestick, though corners felt less consistent for me with the ASI green. Don't know why.

    Will test more soon.

    Medium actuator is 15,5mm? If so, diagonal zone will be smaller than standart 16,5mm stock actuator, try use cones or 17,5mm actuator, you will hit diagonals easily.
    IMO, grommet have nothing to do with inputs.
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  • ChumpyChumpy Joined: Posts: 31
    small comment during my tests
    got to [RED grom/10mm shaft/cones actu] set up and [AM51662C5N] don't have enough force to reset neutral they are too soft and directions got stuck.

    I also noticed this with the cone actuator. (AM51630C69N)
  • hibachifinalhibachifinal 後方互換性 Joined: Posts: 1,642
    @wazwuz Sorry to say but my "14.5?mm" actuator has issues with fitting, two of the shafts (the "green arcade" one and the other skinny one) wont fully enter the hole, it gets stuck half way. Other than that, I find that the Sky blue grommet is a good replacement for airbag grommet, has more consistent tension and snappier feel.

    another comment I have for now are the duswashers your provided, you provided the right hole size for the shaft, but some have that thicker part near the handle threading and the dustwashers cannot enter (just found this oversight kinda funny)
  • Ghost CobraGhost Cobra Lever Execution Joined: Posts: 338 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited March 22
    Chumpy wrote: »
    small comment during my tests
    got to [RED grom/10mm shaft/cones actu] set up and [AM51662C5N] don't have enough force to reset neutral they are too soft and directions got stuck.

    I also noticed this with the cone actuator. (AM51630C69N)

    dang really those to? grrr might just put those black tab gersungs back on for now
    and yea, also my 17.5 actuator does not fit fully on the 10 and 8mm shaft

    mechanically everything feels pretty good so far, just seems the weight on flimsy switches is a thing
  • kodee vukodee vu Joined: Posts: 404
    Agreed. I've been unable to use either the cone or the largest round actuator with either Matsushita switch I have.
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    edited March 23
    @wazwuz Sorry to say but my "14.5?mm" actuator has issues with fitting, two of the shafts (the "green arcade" one and the other skinny one) wont fully enter the hole, it gets stuck half way. Other than that, I find that the Sky blue grommet is a good replacement for airbag grommet, has more consistent tension and snappier feel.

    another comment I have for now are the duswashers your provided, you provided the right hole size for the shaft, but some have that thicker part near the handle threading and the dustwashers cannot enter (just found this oversight kinda funny)

    How deep it can goes? Also is it the actuator or the shaft problems? I make the shaft and the actuator to have minimal clearance so it will reduce the death zone.
    I did test all the sahft using one actuator to see if it fits, Maybe the actuator holes still have some metal scrap left in there.

    The duswasher hole should be 1mm oversized. So 7mm shaft should using 8mm dustwasher.


    small comment during my tests
    got to [RED grom/10mm shaft/cones actu] set up and [AM51662C5N] don't have enough force to reset neutral they are too soft and directions got stuck.

    The red grommet should have strong enough tension. I will try this setup when I can find AM51662C5N
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  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    kodee vu wrote: »
    Agreed. I've been unable to use either the cone or the largest round actuator with either Matsushita switch I have.

    Yes. 17.5mm is pretty big actuator, it work best for less sensitive switch

    But cones actuator shouldn't have issue since the contat point is about 16.5mm
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  • hibachifinalhibachifinal 後方互換性 Joined: Posts: 1,642
    wazwuz wrote: »
    How deep it can goes? Also is it the actuator or the shaft problems? I make the shaft and the actuator to have minimal clearance so it will reduce the death zone.
    I did test all the sahft using one actuator to see if it fits, Maybe the actuator holes still have some metal scrap left in there.

    The duswasher hole should be 1mm oversized. So 7mm shaft should using 8mm dustwasher.

    its the actuator I think, it works on the other shafts, and other actuators on these two shafts.
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    and these, these two dustwashers dont fit in any of the shafts, hole to small, not a big deal on this, just curious what happened lol
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  • BullmanceBullmance Joined: Posts: 12
    Got my Golden Fanta parts 2 days ago and got quite a few good hours in testing different setups. I have been using a Fujin V2 as my top lever. I also owned an Airbag and a standard Fanta before, also tried some Crowns. I found the Airbag to loose. Also, I didn't like that it fails a "flick test". The Golden Fanta will be my new lever, the customization and feel of the parts is great, I love it. I cannibalized that Airbag and kept the housing, switches (AM51630C69N) and bottom plate. The Golden parts I preferred most right now are the 75shore clear Grommet, 10mm shaft and 17.5mm actuator. I put these in a Jasen's Customs PFSIII Korean and attached a green aluminum battop.

    Here is my review of the parts and quality. Since this was a prototype product I'm going to be critical. Overall nothing would prevent me from recommending this.

    Packaging: The packaging and plastic container held up well on the journey to the US. When unpacking the bronze pieces the tape used stuck to them and left a residue. I got most of it off with dish soap and warm water but it took 5 minutes of picking at them to remove it all; annoying.

    Dust Washers: These all fit well and look nice. Unfortunately every one of mine had a chip or 2 out of the surface or the edges of the bronze color was messed up. This could have been caused by the way they were packed in shipping or manufactured, I'm not sure.

    Actuators: All these looked great and fit great on the shafts. Personally I liked the biggest one. I bought the cone one but found it left the diagonals to tight for my taste.

    Shafts: All of these also looked and fit great. I love a short throw and the shorter activation mixed with the large actuator. I felt the 11mm shaft didn't let me get deep enough in the corner making the diagonals to tight.

    Grommets: These all felt high quality. Second, they stunk... terribly. They actually gave me a headache, haha. I had to move them to the window and then into their own ziploc bag. Besides that they worked great. The blue and green failed the flick test. The red was nice but I liked the clear 75shore better. The objective of the grommet, to me, should be the fastest return to neutral possible while not over correcting/erroneous inputs. I ordered a 85shore but it was difficult to get on, so difficult I ripped it while I was trying to put it on. I don't think its practical for that reason. The Red and 75shore took a bit of persuasion to put on/off, but weren't bad and took no damage. Using the Clear now.

    Acrylic Reinforcement: This was made well and looks cool. It fit tight. I don't think it is as good as the metal one that comes on an Airbag. That one is thinner and also has a extra nub that goes into each switch to provide a second point of stabilization. I think the Fuijin's is the superior of the 3 though. It's metal and fits between the casing and switches with a second screw in the switch. I think something like this would be way better than the acrylic.

    Overall the parts all felt high quality and the customization level was the best. Highly recommend this future kit for any Korean lever enthusiast.
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    edited March 23

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    OMG LOL, it was my fault, I make the dustwasher in last minute when making switch support at laser shop. And I completely forgot about slim shaft having profile like this, this is pretty silly enginnering failure:D
    For this reason, that's why green lever don't have dustwasher. the only solution is using elastic dustwaser (rubber/sponge)

    For actuator, it seems like there were scrap left after machined it on lathe. do you have access to some drill? If so, you can try use 7mm drill bits to make the hole clear. Or simply use round grinding bits to clear the leftover scrap.
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  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    Bullmance wrote: »
    The Golden parts I preferred most right now are the 75shore clear Grommet, 10mm shaft and 17.5mm actuator. I put these in a Jasen's Customs PFSIII Korean and attached a green aluminum battop.

    Here is my review of the parts and quality. Since this was a prototype product I'm going to be critical. Overall nothing would prevent me from recommending this.

    Dust Washers: These all fit well and look nice. Unfortunately every one of mine had a chip or 2 out of the surface or the edges of the bronze color was messed up. This could have been caused by the way they were packed in shipping or manufactured, I'm not sure.

    Grommets: These all felt high quality. Second, they stunk... terribly. They actually gave me a headache, haha. I had to move them to the window and then into their own ziploc bag. Besides that they worked great. The blue and green failed the flick test. The red was nice but I liked the clear 75shore better. The objective of the grommet, to me, should be the fastest return to neutral possible while not over correcting/erroneous inputs. I ordered a 85shore but it was difficult to get on, so difficult I ripped it while I was trying to put it on. I don't think its practical for that reason. The Red and 75shore took a bit of persuasion to put on/off, but weren't bad and took no damage. Using the Clear now.

    Overall the parts all felt high quality and the customization level was the best. Highly recommend this future kit for any Korean lever enthusiast.

    thank you for the review. WTH, No one can bear 75 grommet until now, I was skeptical about 75 when you asked, but lets give it a try. and you manage to make it playable :bow: , your arm must be strong, extremely strong. And now you have the fastest neutral stick in the World LOL.
    and don't bother with 80 grommets, it was too stiff and will be break upon installation like you did.

    dustwasher, it was production failure, the laser chip it.

    I love the smell of the fresh silicone from the mold :D
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  • kazuyafan94kazuyafan94 twitch.tv/kazstein Joined: Posts: 171
    Damn, now I'm interested in trying the Golden Fanta lol!
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  • ennuiennui Joined: Posts: 44
    edited March 23
    Yeah, me too. Be sure to let us know when the prototype phase is over and you are doing a commercial run. I would like to buy one at that point once all the kinks are worked out. Kudos to everyone here for testing them out!

    Of course, I know nothing about Korean levers, but want to get into trying them out. Having lots of options is always a good thing. Anyone have tips on what levers I should look into buying first?
  • CaliburXCaliburX Joined: Posts: 24
    edited March 23
    Bullmance wrote: »
    Got my Golden Fanta parts 2 days ago and got quite a few good hours in testing different setups. I have been using a Fujin V2 as my top lever. I also owned an Airbag and a standard Fanta before, also tried some Crowns. I found the Airbag to loose. Also, I didn't like that it fails a "flick test". The Golden Fanta will be my new lever, the customization and feel of the parts is great, I love it. I cannibalized that Airbag and kept the housing, switches (AM51630C69N) and bottom plate. The Golden parts I preferred most right now are the 75shore clear Grommet, 10mm shaft and 17.5mm actuator. I put these in a Jasen's Customs PFSIII Korean and attached a green aluminum battop.

    Here is my review of the parts and quality. Since this was a prototype product I'm going to be critical. Overall nothing would prevent me from recommending this.

    Packaging: The packaging and plastic container held up well on the journey to the US. When unpacking the bronze pieces the tape used stuck to them and left a residue. I got most of it off with dish soap and warm water but it took 5 minutes of picking at them to remove it all; annoying.

    Dust Washers: These all fit well and look nice. Unfortunately every one of mine had a chip or 2 out of the surface or the edges of the bronze color was messed up. This could have been caused by the way they were packed in shipping or manufactured, I'm not sure.

    Actuators: All these looked great and fit great on the shafts. Personally I liked the biggest one. I bought the cone one but found it left the diagonals to tight for my taste.

    Shafts: All of these also looked and fit great. I love a short throw and the shorter activation mixed with the large actuator. I felt the 11mm shaft didn't let me get deep enough in the corner making the diagonals to tight.

    Grommets: These all felt high quality. Second, they stunk... terribly. They actually gave me a headache, haha. I had to move them to the window and then into their own ziploc bag. Besides that they worked great. The blue and green failed the flick test. The red was nice but I liked the clear 75shore better. The objective of the grommet, to me, should be the fastest return to neutral possible while not over correcting/erroneous inputs. I ordered a 85shore but it was difficult to get on, so difficult I ripped it while I was trying to put it on. I don't think its practical for that reason. The Red and 75shore took a bit of persuasion to put on/off, but weren't bad and took no damage. Using the Clear now.

    Acrylic Reinforcement: This was made well and looks cool. It fit tight. I don't think it is as good as the metal one that comes on an Airbag. That one is thinner and also has a extra nub that goes into each switch to provide a second point of stabilization. I think the Fuijin's is the superior of the 3 though. It's metal and fits between the casing and switches with a second screw in the switch. I think something like this would be way better than the acrylic.

    Overall the parts all felt high quality and the customization level was the best. Highly recommend this future kit for any Korean lever enthusiast.

    I had the same problem where the Actuator would get stick while trying to put in the shaft, I had to hammer it out, no lie. lol

    quoted the wrong person. Meant to quote habachifinal
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    ennui wrote: »
    Yeah, me too. Be sure to let us know when the prototype phase is over and you are doing a commercial run. I would like to buy one at that point once all the kinks are worked out. Kudos to everyone here for testing them out!

    Of course, I know nothing about Korean levers, but want to get into trying them out. Having lots of options is always a good thing. Anyone have tips on what levers I should look into buying first?

    Go for fanta Airbag.
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  • rbuniaorbuniao Joined: Posts: 169
    I think most of us can come to a consensus that the 17.5mm and the cones actuator don't work with the Matsushita switches. One theory as to why it doesn't work is that the increased diameter pushes the levers close to actuating the pins on the switches to "open" state. One the lever is released it should return to neutral but since the other switches are involved to keep the actuator centered, but sometimes either the active switch turns to "closed" state or stays in "open" since the lever pushing the pin is close to the actuation point. Dunno if I explained that correctly but I think that is why @wazwuz recommend sensitive switches for the large actuator.

    The Panasonic switches found in the airbag and the 309mj have an operating force of 120g (Source). I think next week I'm going to try some ultra light switches and see if the large and cone actuators do help.

    Other than that, I'm enjoying using my current setup (stock fanta actuator, 10mm shaft, 65a grommet). I may try the sky blue and greens this weekend since I do play a wide variety of fighting games (I'm sure a softer grommet setup might be beneficial for air dashers due to Instant Air Dashes and maybe I can do consecutive back dash cancels for Tekken :smiley: )
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    kodee vu wrote: »
    For those who are still wanting to try them, I will possibly be willing to ship one of my sets within the USA, assuming it will be shipped back and that you'll pay both ways' shipping. The intent is, after all, to provide @wazwuz with good feedback for a potential retail product. The more reviews and input, the better.

    I am performing my review very methodically and will provide input this weekend. Sorry for the delay -- long work hours and girlfriend time over here.

    if you want the complete version of Golden Fanta, better grab this for full customization. the retail version will have less parts.
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  • kazuyafan94kazuyafan94 twitch.tv/kazstein Joined: Posts: 171
    @wazwuz are you planning on sending out another wave of Golden Fanta's for people to test or will this be the only time you'll do it?
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  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    rbuniao wrote: »
    I think most of us can come to a consensus that the 17.5mm and the cones actuator don't work with the Matsushita switches. One theory as to why it doesn't work is that the increased diameter pushes the levers close to actuating the pins on the switches to "open" state. One the lever is released it should return to neutral but since the other switches are involved to keep the actuator centered, but sometimes either the active switch turns to "closed" state or stays in "open" since the lever pushing the pin is close to the actuation point. Dunno if I explained that correctly but I think that is why @wazwuz recommend sensitive switches for the large actuator.

    The Panasonic switches found in the airbag and the 309mj have an operating force of 120g (Source). I think next week I'm going to try some ultra light switches and see if the large and cone actuators do help.

    Other than that, I'm enjoying using my current setup (stock fanta actuator, 10mm shaft, 65a grommet). I may try the sky blue and greens this weekend since I do play a wide variety of fighting games (I'm sure a softer grommet setup might be beneficial for air dashers due to Instant Air Dashes and maybe I can do consecutive back dash cancels for Tekken :smiley: )

    for 17.5mm actuator, you will need less sensitive switches. for cones actuator, it works fine on Standart Airbag switches from makestick.
    I notice high tension grommet getting preferable. it is good, since it will give faster neutral and less "bouncing" in a flick. but it requires strong arms.
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  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,761
    edited March 24
    I had more time using the Green Game Land/Green Arcade set: 7mm shaft and 14.5mm actuator. Also used the lightest tension grommet (green) because the Green levers I tried for a quick bit at events felt light and had the wiggle. Installed it on my Airbag with the switches and switch stabilizer intact.

    While not the exact same, as expected, it feels close to what I remember trying. There is definitely a longer travel because of the shaft. The actuator reduced the corner zones by a good amount. Getting an EWGF consistently is definitely harder. By no means the corners are super small but it is relatively reduced. If that's the case with the actual Green levers, I can guess it was designed for those who are good at execution. I probably will get used to it. I will say that the reduced corners actually made backdash cancelling for sway characters a lot easier on both sides. I will test the OMRON switches soon with this set.

    Sooner or later, I will get to the other parts.
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    edited March 24
    @wazwuz are you planning on sending out another wave of Golden Fanta's for people to test or will this be the only time you'll do it?

    I think 20 sets of golden fanta will be enough for review to find out which parts that work the best in general, then I make the retail version for most popular parts.
    You can grab the one @kodee vu offer if you want the complete Golden Fanta setup.
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  • hibachifinalhibachifinal 後方互換性 Joined: Posts: 1,642
    some broad general stuff:

    actuators feels too heavy, I get serious deflection on my setup, not to mention the "clanking" sound of the parts, it's not really friendly to the ears. That said, I think the medium/middle actuator works best with my choice of microswitches (the lighter matsushita, from seimitsu ls-32), gives a good balance with the dark blue (60?) grommet. I think for future production, the custom actuators would really benefit from having been made using plastics (delrin? whatever they use for Crown 309), not brass.

    Grommets in general work really well, I think the green and sky blue ones are my favorites for general use, it closely gives the feel of crown joysticks actually, green + gersung A3's gives a nice performing 303FK/FJ feel (for those that prefer that setup). The Red grommet reminds me of Taeyoung tension, I really can't play on this regularly personally.

    And for those looking for such, I found a glossy/non-matte Black bat-top with a cheapo NES Classic "The Edge" joystick and I have been using that, almost similar spec as the sanwa bat-tops, almost same shape as myoungshin bat.
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  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    some broad general stuff:

    actuators feels too heavy, I get serious deflection on my setup, not to mention the "clanking" sound of the parts, it's not really friendly to the ears. That said, I think the medium/middle actuator works best with my choice of microswitches (the lighter matsushita, from seimitsu ls-32), gives a good balance with the dark blue (60?) grommet. I think for future production, the custom actuators would really benefit from having been made using plastics (delrin? whatever they use for Crown 309), not brass.

    Grommets in general work really well, I think the green and sky blue ones are my favorites for general use, it closely gives the feel of crown joysticks actually, green + gersung A3's gives a nice performing 303FK/FJ feel (for those that prefer that setup). The Red grommet reminds me of Taeyoung tension, I really can't play on this regularly personally.

    And for those looking for such, I found a glossy/non-matte Black bat-top with a cheapo NES Classic "The Edge" joystick and I have been using that, almost similar spec as the sanwa bat-tops, almost same shape as myoungshin bat.
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    at first I was not sure about metal actuator. but after use this bronze actuator, I pretty like the wight. IMO, heavy actuator will balancing the battops weight.
    the clanking sound a bit annoying, but it will be minimal when using fully closed case.
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  • Ghost CobraGhost Cobra Lever Execution Joined: Posts: 338 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    really liking default actuator with skyblue,
    running 10mm or 8mm shaft.

    I feel each gives you a little more or less from standard shaft.
    Personally I kinda like 10mm on 2D games and 8mm on TEKKEN
    11mm I have tons of motion issues riding gate so short.

    spun the sanwa battop with the drill on some 150 fine.
    similar ridges like a fujin clear fattytop now. feels better :>
    back to testo

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  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 376
    Chumpy wrote: »

    I'm currently using the 8mm shaft, 15.5mm actuator and sky blue grommet (50). This might be my favorite setup. It feels great and gives me more accuracy than I had with the smallest actuator. I noticed that my 10mm shaft does not fit in the 15.5mm actuator and it also feels tighter to insert into the other actuators. This is also is the case with my friends 10mm shaft.

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    Dammmm..... That red battop really pretty on Golden fanta shaft, mine is still otw, can't wait to put it on my golden shaft.

    Thank you for your feedback. So sorry for having problems with the actuator holes, if you have access to drill press, try to fix it using 7mm drill bit. I did the project in a rush because too excited and haven't try all the actuators hole, but I did check all the shaft.

    I start noticing the cones actuator problem getting stuck from reviewers. I use cones actuator from the begining and heven't got any issue. And it my fav actuator actually. I use 10mm shaft, blue sky grom, cones actuator. Could you try this setup and let me know if the cones still have the problem?
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