Korean arcade parts discussion

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  • AgiezeAgieze Joined: Posts: 315
    edited October 2015
    wazwuz wrote: »

    For which stick is that actuator? And is the sketch in milimeters?

    While not directly Korean parts, Kuenste did some rough lag testing between the PS360+'s PS4, the Hori Real Arcade Pro V and Magiclab's new Magicstick M4. The M4 has a touchpad even if it visually looks weird. Looks like it doesn't work with normal Korean levers but for Japanese mounted models.

    Hori pcb are shit for ps4/ps3. For the price they ask they could do much better. even some chinese pcb have less input lag and the one in the magicstick m4 is probably a chinese pcb ( on istmall, all their pcb are chinese except perhaps the paewang. they even sell the same pc/ps3/xbox360 than the one found in the new "torii" fighsticks).
    Now just wait for the train of hori fanboys to pass by, screaming that korean testers have supposedly rigged the test to promote korean products.
    Worse, according to http://www.teyah.net/sticklag/results.html the rap4 premium vlx kuro has almost 15ms of input lag, while the cheaper rap4 has 4.8ms. So if you pay more, you get more lag? wtf.

    Otoh, the magicstick is quite expensive(190000 won!) , knowing that the lever is not expensive per se, the buttons are standard sanwa , it seems they're making you pay big bucks for that touchscreen option. Despite this fact, it is already out of stock!
  • kkoldingkkolding Joined: Posts: 153
    edited October 2015
    I feel the price I very fair, the case it self is one of the best on the marked if not the best i have ever tested. the touch pad is actually a original wireless PS4 pad with an extra PCB om the side for PS3 and PC.
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  • armi0024armi0024 Dash Cancel Expert, paradisearcadeshop.com Joined: Posts: 1,826
    wazwuz wrote: »
    armi0024 wrote: »
    For references since this conversation is in multiple threads, on and offline, here are the measurements for the actuators. I apologize for the bad drawing, I'm on on my solidworks computer. We have ordered samples of this oversized ones we expect shortly. Take care @agieze

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    For which stick is that actuator? And is the sketch in milimeters?

    Yes of course mm, and the questions were about the 307.

    That would be a large actuator in any other units.
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  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,845
    It looks like the Crown 309 Helpme lever is out now. Little bit weird to add the Helpme part to the product while the CWL-307 never had that officially.
  • niku13niku13 Joined: Posts: 73
    wazwuz wrote: »
    @wazwuz Would arcadestick-indonesia ever consider coming out with an "airbag" mod/kit similar to how you guys put together the Fanta Crown Upgrade Kit?

    Yes if we can find a reseller in US.

    For fanta crown user, try to use harder rubber and 1mm oversized actuator. This mod works amazing for me. It have sensitivity like jlf, plus faster neutral and fluid movement.

    I purchased your Crown upgrade kit and it worked great.
    I will keep an eye out for a Myoungshin Fanta - Airbag style upgrade by you in the future :)
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  • slaycruzslaycruz Joined: Posts: 1,320
    jmanDMC wrote: »
    slaycruz wrote: »
    I am in the US...San antionoo to be exact.

    Great - let's add you to the list. I'll provide you with a sample of the Myoungshin grommet and 60 Shore A silicone unit.

    I'll need to know the quantity of units @wazwuz can provide to me to figure out how many I can add to the list.

    Any word on when the testing and feedback will begin?
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  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    slaycruz wrote: »
    Any word on when the testing and feedback will begin?

    I actually got the parts on Tuesday

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    Here is what I have from @wazwuz:
    1. 10pcs of rubber mod for Myoungshin Fanta. He said it's a bit harder than the stock rubber Fanta (about +5 shore A)
    2. 5pcs 60-65 Shore A silicone rubber mod for the Crown 303. I suspect can also be used in the 307.

    Apologies for adding the black circle units on left of the Fanta grommets; those were actually part of the restock shipment.

    For my part, I can ship test units domestically. I believe that @wazwuz can offer some to international testers, depending on proximity.

    I do have a mod from Kowal that I plan to offer at launch of FA Plexworks. Combined with Kowal's flat plate converter, it allows you to attach the Fanta to a regular fightstick.

    I can offer 5pcs of that mod + the rubber mod to Fanta owners.
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  • slaycruzslaycruz Joined: Posts: 1,320
    jmanDMC wrote: »
    slaycruz wrote: »
    Any word on when the testing and feedback will begin?

    I actually got the parts on Tuesday

    12027653_1149143628432368_5075403496154086693_n.jpg?oh=ccad85d0996608bab2169a3fc64148e8&oe=568D194D

    Here is what I have from @wazwuz:
    1. 10pcs of rubber mod for Myoungshin Fanta. He said it's a bit harder than the stock rubber Fanta (about +5 shore A)
    2. 5pcs 60-65 Shore A silicone rubber mod for the Crown 303. I suspect can also be used in the 307.

    Apologies for adding the black circle units on left of the Fanta grommets; those were actually part of the restock shipment.

    For my part, I can ship test units domestically. I believe that @wazwuz can offer some to international testers, depending on proximity.

    I do have a mod from Kowal that I plan to offer at launch of FA Plexworks. Combined with Kowal's flat plate converter, it allows you to attach the Fanta to a regular fightstick.

    I can offer 5pcs of that mod + the rubber mod to Fanta owners.

    Awesome....just let me know what ya need from me so I van help test....I play more tekken than anything right now.
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  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    edited October 2015
    slaycruz wrote: »

    Awesome....just let me know what ya need from me so I van help test....I play more tekken than anything right now.

    Will do. I'd like to see if any additional players step up here within a week. If not, I'll reach out to you to get started. One week will be my deadline for any volunteers for this group.
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  • slaycruzslaycruz Joined: Posts: 1,320
    jmanDMC wrote: »
    slaycruz wrote: »

    Awesome....just let me know what ya need from me so I van help test....I play more tekken than anything right now.

    Will do. I'd like to see if any additional players step up here within a week. If not, I'll reach out to you to get started. One week will be my deadline for any volunteers for this group.

    Sounds good.
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  • kkoldingkkolding Joined: Posts: 153
    edited October 2015
    I can test some for you got both crown and myoungshin and have all the different rubbers that is out there, so it would be easy for me to compare.
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  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    kkolding wrote: »
    I can test some for you got both crown and myoungshin and have all the different rubbers that is out there, so it would be easy for me to compare.

    Sounds good. Where are you located? I see Denmark CPH, but would like to confirm so either myself or @wazwuz will distribute the test kits.
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  • jey-arejey-are Intermediate Noob Joined: Posts: 109
    Agieze wrote: »
    They could just sell the switches,grommets and actuators seperately like sanwa and seimitsu already do, people would be a hell of a lot more into crown products if parts could be purchased as seperate units.

    I second this.
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  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    Okay - so I have at least two participants for testing. I don't yet know where @kkolding is located, but I can send @slaycruz a test unit with Fanta grommet and conversion kit, plus silicone grommet. I'll keep the option open for anyone else that may want to participate.
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  • hibachifinalhibachifinal 後方互換性 Joined: Posts: 1,649
    I have a myoungshin fanta setup on one of my sticks, I cant test the myoungshin grommet for sure if its still available. what i have is a newer stock myounshin (gsm-V1623A2 microswitches).
  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    I have a myoungshin fanta setup on one of my sticks, I cant test the myoungshin grommet for sure if its still available. what i have is a newer stock myounshin (gsm-V1623A2 microswitches).

    Sounds good. I still have plenty of units left of the Fanta grommet. I'll be in touch to get shipping details.
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  • slaycruzslaycruz Joined: Posts: 1,320
    jmanDMC wrote: »
    Okay - so I have at least two participants for testing. I don't yet know where @kkolding is located, but I can send @slaycruz a test unit with Fanta grommet and conversion kit, plus silicone grommet. I'll keep the option open for anyone else that may want to participate.


    Cant wait yo.
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  • kkoldingkkolding Joined: Posts: 153
    Sorry have been super busy lately i sent you a pm @jmanDMC
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  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    kkolding wrote: »
    Sorry have been super busy lately i sent you a pm @jmanDMC

    Got it - I'm trying to work with @wazwuz on international participants, while managing domestic USA ones. We'll be in touch.
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  • XianTKXianTK I'm just some dude. Joined: Posts: 13
    I can help out too if you need it. I have a Myoungshin Fanta that I've been wanting to put back in and a Crown 303-FK and N laying around, all three stock parts.
  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    XianTK wrote: »
    I can help out too if you need it. I have a Myoungshin Fanta that I've been wanting to put back in and a Crown 303-FK and N laying around, all three stock parts.

    Sounds good - where are you located?

    I'll finalize domestic participants by early next week and speak with @wazwuz about international.

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  • XianTKXianTK I'm just some dude. Joined: Posts: 13
    US, California to be exact. Let me know if you need anything else.
  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    XianTK wrote: »
    US, California to be exact. Let me know if you need anything else.

    Great - I'll be in touch.
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  • AznSensation45AznSensation45 Joined: Posts: 14
    Can I help with this too? I have a stock myoungshin and a crown fk with the rubber grommet upgrade from wazwuz.
  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    Can I help with this too? I have a stock myoungshin and a crown fk with the rubber grommet upgrade from wazwuz.

    I'll be in touch - are you domestic US or international?

    For others interested in participating, it is helpful to mention your country (USA or otherwise) so @wazwuz and I can compile testers by location.
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  • AznSensation45AznSensation45 Joined: Posts: 14
    US, Oregon to be exact. Sorry for not mentioning early.
  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    US, Oregon to be exact. Sorry for not mentioning early.

    No problem. I'll use this weekend to compile who we have so far. Next week, I'll cut some of the Fanta kits for those who can try installing it into a Fightstick. I can spare at a max of three of those kits since they use the Kowal flat plate converter.
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  • slaycruzslaycruz Joined: Posts: 1,320
    jmanDMC wrote: »
    US, Oregon to be exact. Sorry for not mentioning early.

    No problem. I'll use this weekend to compile who we have so far. Next week, I'll cut some of the Fanta kits for those who can try installing it into a Fightstick. I can spare at a max of three of those kits since they use the Kowal flat plate converter.

    I look forward to testing good sir.
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  • OrochiDemonOrochiDemon Joined: Posts: 1,541
    I mixed the myoungshin fanta conversion kit from FA with a crown 307 st that had the silicone grommet. I had to dremel the hole in my stick surface plate cause its a Tekken 5 ps2 stick body I converted into a custom stick.
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    First off, the silicone grommet did make diagonals easier to do in the 307, but quarter circles were a bit harder since it kinda wanted to stay at diagonal. I didnt really like the stiffer microswitches that the st came with.
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    Playing with the conversion grommet and microswitches is easier due to softer switches mainly. Even with the 307 actuator being larger than the 303 sticks theres a lot of deadzone, and I really have to break in the grommet to make it easier to play.
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    Overall I like that I got the conversion kit, but I need to find a way to eliminate the excess deadzone in the stick. I had to put weights in my stick though so that it wouldnt jerk around since its still stiff, but they loosen up over time right? Thats what I heard.
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  • jmanDMCjmanDMC Focusattack.com Joined: Posts: 2,550
    I mixed the myoungshin fanta conversion kit from FA with a crown 307 st that had the silicone grommet. I had to dremel the hole in my stick surface plate cause its a Tekken 5 ps2 stick body I converted into a custom stick.

    I'd like to ask @wazwuz if he recommends putting the kit in the 307 ST, since to my knowledge it was designed for the 303-FK. You're probably right that the switches may affect play, and indeed over time, a bit of wear and tear will get some of the stiffness out.
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  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 422

    jmanDMC wrote: »
    I mixed the myoungshin fanta conversion kit from FA with a crown 307 st that had the silicone grommet. I had to dremel the hole in my stick surface plate cause its a Tekken 5 ps2 stick body I converted into a custom stick.

    I'd like to ask @wazwuz if he recommends putting the kit in the 307 ST, since to my knowledge it was designed for the 303-FK. You're probably right that the switches may affect play, and indeed over time, a bit of wear and tear will get some of the stiffness out.

    if it's fit in, maybe you can try it. but I don't have 307 so i can say it for sure. it was design for 303FK.
    yup after about a week, it well be break in.
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    Right now, we have the following participants for testing @Wazwuz's Fanta grommet, silicone grommet, and domestically, the Fanta kit:
    1. @slaycruz
    2. @AznSensation45
    3. @XianTK
    4. @kkolding

    kkolding is international; I believe @wazwuz can assist in sending units to him. I can issue my portion of the test units to others.

    This will represent the first phase of testing.

    The goal of the silicone grommet test is to see whether it comes close to the model touted as the official Tekken 7 unit. @wazwuz will follow up with details as to how we'll go about testing that, and the expected switch/actuator configuration.

    The objective of the Myoungshin Fanta grommet is to see whether the higher shore rating lends to a better overall experience. This is mainly an experiment.

    The kit I'm sending is a test to allow installation of the Fanta joystick into a common fightstick, such as the TE or TE2. The domestic units will ship out by Friday of this week.
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  • slaycruzslaycruz Joined: Posts: 1,320
    jmanDMC wrote: »
    Right now, we have the following participants for testing @Wazwuz's Fanta grommet, silicone grommet, and domestically, the Fanta kit:
    1. @slaycruz
    2. @AznSensation45
    3. @XianTK
    4. @kkolding

    kkolding is international; I believe @wazwuz can assist in sending units to him. I can issue my portion of the test units to others.

    This will represent the first phase of testing.

    The goal of the silicone grommet test is to see whether it comes close to the model touted as the official Tekken 7 unit. @wazwuz will follow up with details as to how we'll go about testing that, and the expected switch/actuator configuration.

    The objective of the Myoungshin Fanta grommet is to see whether the higher shore rating lends to a better overall experience. This is mainly an experiment.

    The kit I'm sending is a test to allow installation of the Fanta joystick into a common fightstick, such as the TE or TE2. The domestic units will ship out by Friday of this week.

    Do you need us to om you shipping info?
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    slaycruz wrote: »

    Do you need us to om you shipping info?

    Yes - I'll be in touch with each of you this week.
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  • OrochiDemonOrochiDemon Joined: Posts: 1,541
    edited November 2015
    The grommet and switches perfectly, its just stiff but Ill break it in more. The biggest thing I dont like is the deadzone being so wide. Gotta do a mod for that. haha!

    Sorry Ive been busy since I posted, but it is breaking in and I enjoy it, it even makes my execution on a hayabusha better.
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    jmanDMC wrote: »
    Right now, we have the following participants for testing @Wazwuz's Fanta grommet, silicone grommet, and domestically, the Fanta kit:.

    oh was this only for crown fantas? i was interested in testing out the grommet for myoungshins :(
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    jmanDMC wrote: »
    Right now, we have the following participants for testing @Wazwuz's Fanta grommet, silicone grommet, and domestically, the Fanta kit:.

    oh was this only for crown fantas? i was interested in testing out the grommet for myoungshins :(

    This was also for the Myoungshin Fanta grommet; sorry if I didn't make that clean when I mentioned "Fanta grommet"

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    jmanDMC wrote: »
    jmanDMC wrote: »
    Right now, we have the following participants for testing @Wazwuz's Fanta grommet, silicone grommet, and domestically, the Fanta kit:.

    oh was this only for crown fantas? i was interested in testing out the grommet for myoungshins :(

    This was also for the Myoungshin Fanta grommet; sorry if I didn't make that clean when I mentioned "Fanta grommet"

    can i still get on the test kit? how much will it be?
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    can i still get on the test kit? how much will it be?

    The kit is free as part of a public testing phase. I believe you purchased from FA a while back. Has the shipping address changed?

    To others, I'm afraid that I have to limit the testing to domestic. @wazwuz recently explained that I have all of the silicone grommets he made at this time, and shipping from Indonesia is rather expensive. It's pretty expensive for me as well. I'm very sorry @kkolding. :s
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    jmanDMC wrote: »

    The kit is free as part of a public testing phase. I believe you purchased from FA a while back. Has the shipping address changed?

    cool. yeah its still the same. :) thanks.

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