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  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 153
    ShinMagus wrote: »
    Hmmm... Can you please point me to a Korean plate compatible with the Samducksa SDL-301-DX? I'm not familiar...

    PS: I happen to have a Crown 303-FK lying around. I don't know if this helps.

    No worries. The flat plate on the 303 will fit perfectly on the sdl-301.
  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,785
    edited October 5
    @Snubnoze It's for am etokki omni if I remember correctly and he is using a taeyoung with golden fanta parts.

    @MeiliIsCharm yup comes standard with long collar.

    Found a way to ditch the slippery sanwa battop on kaze lever without having to sand it. Myoungshin battop/shaft will work work kaze bunshin and actuator. Only main difference besides esthetics is the myoungshin shaft is 9mm vs kaze' s 10mm.

    As promised the pics of the kaze v3 breakdown


    Neat. I guess my eyes are deceiving me but the collar is normal right? The grommet looks like the FLF grommet, both in color and holes, which was loose. The actuator looks like a normal Myoungshin. Is the shaft definitely bigger than default and if so, what would be the most comparable Golden Fanta shaft?

    Since I still have a V2 on hand, I believe I have a spare set of V1623A3 switches (I do for sure have some V0323A3 sets) and replace the Panasonic switches. If the V3 shaft is either 9mm or 10mm, I can either drop in my 10mm Golden Fanta shaft or my FLF shaft.
  • ShinMagusShinMagus Joined: Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    ShinMagus wrote: »
    Hmmm... Can you please point me to a Korean plate compatible with the Samducksa SDL-301-DX? I'm not familiar...

    PS: I happen to have a Crown 303-FK lying around. I don't know if this helps.

    No worries. The flat plate on the 303 will fit perfectly on the sdl-301.

    Is the Crown 303-FK flat plate compatible with the Fanta mounting?
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  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 153
    edited October 5
    @Snubnoze It's for am etokki omni if I remember correctly and he is using a taeyoung with golden fanta parts.

    @MeiliIsCharm yup comes standard with long collar.

    Found a way to ditch the slippery sanwa battop on kaze lever without having to sand it. Myoungshin battop/shaft will work work kaze bunshin and actuator. Only main difference besides esthetics is the myoungshin shaft is 9mm vs kaze' s 10mm.

    As promised the pics of the kaze v3 breakdown


    Neat. I guess my eyes are deceiving me but the collar is normal right? The grommet looks like the FLF grommet, both in color and holes, which was loose. The actuator looks like a normal Myoungshin. Is the shaft definitely bigger than default and if so, what would be the most comparable Golden Fanta shaft?

    Since I still have a V2 on hand, I believe I have a spare set of V1623A3 switches (I do for sure have some V0323A3 sets) and replace the Panasonic switches. If the V3 shaft is either 9mm or 10mm, I can either drop in my 10mm Golden Fanta shaft or my FLF shaft.

    The golden fanta shaft will fit but you would have to switch out the bushing for myoungshin's. One other thing to note is the stock kaze actuator won't fit on the golden fanta shaft since the hole is too small. The stock kaze bushing is almost exactly the same diameter and length as the taeyoungs but have yet to compare it to myoungshin's. If you do opt for golden fanta parts just use a 10mm shaft and 16mm actuator. Pretty sure the grommet used is the same soft red grommets that makestick sells.

    @ShinMagus shouldn't be a problem since I used my 309mj and sdl-301 flat plate when testing my fujin on my te2.
  • BeikedGoodsBeikedGoods Joined: Posts: 15
    edited October 5
    Hey guys, really appreciate all the stuff I'm learning through this thread.

    I have a bit of a problem, or at least I fear it might be a problem; I made an order on Makestick and the payment went through but I've yet to receive a confirmation e-mail and I've even e-mailed noplzz@naver.com along with mibu.hiro@outlook.com to no avail. I'm not sure if my order has gone through, nor do I have a tracking number. Anyone have some insight on what to expect from Makestick? I made the order on the 1st of Oct and it's now the 5th.

    Thanks guys.
  • ShinMagusShinMagus Joined: Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Hey guys, really appreciate all the stuff I'm learning through this thread.

    I have a bit of a problem, or at least I fear it might be a problem; I made an order on Makestick and the payment went through but I've yet to receive a confirmation e-mail and I've even e-mailed noplzz@naver.com along with mibu.hiro@outlook.com to no avail. I'm not sure if my order has gone through, nor do I have a tracking number. Anyone have some insight on what to expect from Makestick? I made the order on the 1st of Oct and it's now the 5th.

    Thanks guys.

    I placed an order one day after you did, and nothing other than my payment going through happened so far either... :|
    Magus
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  • BeikedGoodsBeikedGoods Joined: Posts: 15
    ShinMagus wrote: »
    Hey guys, really appreciate all the stuff I'm learning through this thread.

    I have a bit of a problem, or at least I fear it might be a problem; I made an order on Makestick and the payment went through but I've yet to receive a confirmation e-mail and I've even e-mailed noplzz@naver.com along with mibu.hiro@outlook.com to no avail. I'm not sure if my order has gone through, nor do I have a tracking number. Anyone have some insight on what to expect from Makestick? I made the order on the 1st of Oct and it's now the 5th.

    Thanks guys.

    I placed an order one day after you did, and nothing other than my payment going through happened so far either... :|

    Ah, so we're in this together then. :c I'll be sure to update. Wish I knew how long shipping usually takes to Toronto from there.
  • thelordlonewolfthelordlonewolf Joined: Posts: 21
    i have some n00bs questions about the fanta stick.

    what differences have the Taeyoung Fanta and the Myoungshin Fanta ? and why these two brands have "fanta" sticks? what is the story behind it?

    i would like to buy a etokki witht he fanta lever and mod it with the golden fanta mod.
  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 153
    edited October 5
    @BeikedGoods @ShinMagus Theres 10-day-long Hangawi holiday that started at the beginning of October in Korea. Makestick only ever takes payment then shipment arrives within a week or so. I've ordered from them at least 4 times already and it's always the same with no email about shipment. If you log in to their website and go to the tab "My Page" on the top right there should be info regarding orders and shipment.
  • BeikedGoodsBeikedGoods Joined: Posts: 15
    @BeikedGoods @ShinMagus Theres 10-day-long Hangawi holiday that started at the beginning of October in Korea. Makestick only ever takes payment then shipment arrives within a week or so. I've ordered from them at least 4 times already and it's always the same with no email about shipment. If you log in to their website and go to the tab "My Page" on the top right there should be info regarding orders and shipment.

    Oh, thanks! I hope the holiday doesn't affect the order; but then again, if it does, so be it. They have the right to enjoy themselves c;
  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,785
    i have some n00bs questions about the fanta stick.

    what differences have the Taeyoung Fanta and the Myoungshin Fanta ? and why these two brands have "fanta" sticks? what is the story behind it?

    i would like to buy a etokki witht he fanta lever and mod it with the golden fanta mod.

    The Taeyoung lever is the original Fanta lever. I am currently tired atm so the story isn't going to be accurate but the Fanta part refers to the Taeyoung lever being used at an arcade called Fantasia Arcade in Korea. It became popular to the point that Myoungshin made their own version to rival it. The most obvious differences are that the Taeyoung has longer travel time due to the collar's funnel being wider than the Myoungshin. The Taeyoung has switches placed closer to the middle than the Myoungshin. Another thing is that due to the switch placement, the Taeyoung uses a small actuator while the Myoungshin's actuator is bigger to compensate the slightly more spread apart switches.
  • MariosMarios Joined: Posts: 29
    Guys since i cant find any good ifno out there , i guess ill ask you , i want to install a korean stick into my panthera , i have the k stick i have the harness , but i just noticed that my harness is male and the panthera razer qcb has male as well what do i have to buy to install it and from where ? thanks in advance
  • MariosMarios Joined: Posts: 29
    edited October 6
    or my question is tottaly stupid and i just have to just plug the harness into the existing 5 pin that the panthera has ? the one am holding in the picture.hopefully pictures goes through
    https://gyazo.com/dc876b5cee1ce6cea75c5f7e2ceb9015
  • ShinMagusShinMagus Joined: Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited October 6
    ShinMagus wrote: »
    Hey guys, really appreciate all the stuff I'm learning through this thread.

    I have a bit of a problem, or at least I fear it might be a problem; I made an order on Makestick and the payment went through but I've yet to receive a confirmation e-mail and I've even e-mailed noplzz@naver.com along with mibu.hiro@outlook.com to no avail. I'm not sure if my order has gone through, nor do I have a tracking number. Anyone have some insight on what to expect from Makestick? I made the order on the 1st of Oct and it's now the 5th.

    Thanks guys.

    I placed an order one day after you did, and nothing other than my payment going through happened so far either... :|

    Ah, so we're in this together then. :c I'll be sure to update. Wish I knew how long shipping usually takes to Toronto from there.

    According to the website my order was shipped (hours ago)!
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  • jey-arejey-are Intermediate Noob Joined: Posts: 99
    Marios wrote: »
    or my question is tottaly stupid and i just have to just plug the harness into the existing 5 pin that the panthera has ? the one am holding in the picture.hopefully pictures goes through
    https://gyazo.com/dc876b5cee1ce6cea75c5f7e2ceb9015

    I don't have a panthera, but once you have your 187-to-5pin harness setup... Plug it into the 5 pin where the stock lever would plug into.
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  • MariosMarios Joined: Posts: 29
    Thank you @jey-are think so too , i opened up the small black box inside my panthera to clean and see if anything is wrong before the instalation , i unpluged the cables and i dont remember the order to put them correct back on ,google didnt help me much , is there someone with razer panthera or knowledge to help me put them in order ?
  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 153
    @Marios it will be longest wire to shortest starting from the top going clockwise.

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  • MariosMarios Joined: Posts: 29
    nono not on the stick on the actual pcb , https://gyazo.com/dc876b5cee1ce6cea75c5f7e2ceb9015 @zero_requiem
  • JollyxJollyx Joined: Posts: 3
    hi all, i read lots of comment in this forum about korean lever and finally i decided to purchase a crown 309helpme (korean model) due to a really positive feedback; but i have a madcatz te s arcade stick. So my question is if is really necessary to drill the panel hole up to 35mm so than i can install the crown 309collared or just buy the crown 309mj with a 35 tension rubber. I have no problem for the drilling process, i have a drill press with 35mm step drill, i just want to know if collared version is really better in performance compared to 309mj
  • eyeamg0dlyeyeamg0dly Joined: Posts: 45
    performance from what im told is pretty close, I have the MJ and I am pretty satisfied with it, especially after tweaking out the setup with golden crown. its hard to recommend levers to other people because everyone's preferences are different. do you have another fightstick to drop the MJ into? if you do, i would probably go with a fanta on the one you want to drill.
  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 153
    @Jollyx I hated the collared version lol. Just get the mj and wait to drill the 35mm hole til you decide on a different korean lever. Only reason I dislike the collared version is I find it way easier to kbd on the mj. Seen the tekken world tour tourney in Korea not too long ago and a ton of ppl with the makestick case enclosure were using the mj even though they had the 35mm hole drilled in.
  • LordFuLordFu Joined: Posts: 55
    I have both, and I'd just go with the 309mj. The difference between the Helpme and mj is very small. If you want a case that you can try a variety of Korean levers in, drill away, though.
  • jey-arejey-are Intermediate Noob Joined: Posts: 99
    Imo I'd go with a MJ version. For the simple fact you could change back to a Japanese lever if you ever wanted to. Versatility.
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  • JollyxJollyx Joined: Posts: 3
    edited October 6
    Thank you for all the fast and really accurate answers. At first I realized that the high collar had a better function for the various movements, but if your experiences show that even crown 309mj feels good, i think that i just purchase the 309mj and the 35 silicone tension to obtain the same performance as the helpme version. The golden crown mod is still available?
  • jey-arejey-are Intermediate Noob Joined: Posts: 99
    Marios wrote: »
    Thank you @jey-are think so too , i opened up the small black box inside my panthera to clean and see if anything is wrong before the instalation , i unpluged the cables and i dont remember the order to put them correct back on ,google didnt help me much , is there someone with razer panthera or knowledge to help me put them in order ?

    Might want to drop that question in the "Razer arcade stick thread". Maybe someone there could point you in the right direction. Maybe even give you a picture of the stock PCB with pinouts highlighted.
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  • jey-arejey-are Intermediate Noob Joined: Posts: 99
    Random question: so are old school Taeyoung (possibly Myoungshin) battop handles that came in Red, pretty much impossible to find nowadays?
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  • kimjongskillkimjongskill Joined: Posts: 10
    @zero_requiem
    Rokwho wrote: »
    Got my Fusion V2 yesterday spent a solid 5-6 hours with it and cant really see why its so popular tried a fanta soft rubber with it still not to my liking. Going back to my golden fanta also paid £100 in total for that lever jeeez

    I'd give it a bit more time the fujin v2 is definitely my favorite korean lever I've used. The stiffness takes a bit of getting used to but it feels far more responsive than both the taeyoung and myoungshin which I've used previously.
    @Jollyx I hated the collared version lol. Just get the mj and wait to drill the 35mm hole til you decide on a different korean lever. Only reason I dislike the collared version is I find it way easier to kbd on the mj. Seen the tekken world tour tourney in Korea not too long ago and a ton of ppl with the makestick case enclosure were using the mj even though they had the 35mm hole drilled in.

    Just curious what are your thoughts on the kaze lever now that you've had it a couple days? On the fence about ordering it. Still using the fujin v2 which I switched to from the taeyoung and happy with it but open to trying out other levers. How does it compare to those?

    I think I read in one of your other posts your favorite lever now is a taeyoung with some of the golden fanta parts? Definately will need to pick one of those up next time their avaliable.
  • BeikedGoodsBeikedGoods Joined: Posts: 15
    ShinMagus wrote: »
    ShinMagus wrote: »
    Hey guys, really appreciate all the stuff I'm learning through this thread.

    I have a bit of a problem, or at least I fear it might be a problem; I made an order on Makestick and the payment went through but I've yet to receive a confirmation e-mail and I've even e-mailed noplzz@naver.com along with mibu.hiro@outlook.com to no avail. I'm not sure if my order has gone through, nor do I have a tracking number. Anyone have some insight on what to expect from Makestick? I made the order on the 1st of Oct and it's now the 5th.

    Thanks guys.

    I placed an order one day after you did, and nothing other than my payment going through happened so far either... :|

    Ah, so we're in this together then. :c I'll be sure to update. Wish I knew how long shipping usually takes to Toronto from there.

    According to the website my order was shipped (hours ago)!

    That's good! I was told by e-mail that I will have to wait until after the holiday. I hope your stuff comes soon!
  • masked ridermasked rider Henshin! Joined: Posts: 1,253
    edited October 8
    Is it possible to replicate the bouncy elastic feel that the Fanta levers have with the Crown 309MJ? I found that much more natural and comfortable to play on, and what I initially expected a Korean stick to feel more like than what the 309 offers. Is it just a matter of removing the spring?

    EDIT: I put the stock 25A grommet back in and took out the spring. Feels pretty good, actually. It's still a little too loose for my taste, so when my 35A grommet arrives I think it'll be perfect.
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  • ykdykd Tekken Player Joined: Posts: 60
    @Snubnoze It's for am etokki omni if I remember correctly and he is using a taeyoung with golden fanta parts.

    @MeiliIsCharm yup comes standard with long collar.

    Found a way to ditch the slippery sanwa battop on kaze lever without having to sand it. Myoungshin battop/shaft will work with kaze bushing and actuator. Only main difference besides esthetics is the myoungshin shaft is 9mm vs kaze' s 10mm.

    As promised the pics of the kaze v3 breakdown

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    Thanks for the breakdown, I think I'm going to have to purchase one too. Always appreciate the breakdown pictures. Excited to try this stick out.
  • linkreincarnatelinkreincarnate Joined: Posts: 12
    Does anyone have a readable schematic/datasheet/engineering drawing for the CROWN CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST25? I cannot find one.
  • m_abdalla3m_abdalla3 Joined: Posts: 12
    When going through the Panthera mod to fit korean stick, aside from the step drill 35mm, what mounting plates and cables (if needed) do i need. So i've got the Tae, step drill so far... i already have left over conversion harnesses from the 309MJ if its needed...
  • VarmintBabyVarmintBaby Joined: Posts: 550
    m_abdalla3 wrote: »
    When going through the Panthera mod to fit korean stick, aside from the step drill 35mm, what mounting plates and cables (if needed) do i need. So i've got the Tae, step drill so far... i already have left over conversion harnesses from the 309MJ if its needed...

    @m_abdalla3 You'll prob need a universal plate to mount it. And the joystick cables to put on the switches. Sounds like you already have that though. That's about it. Be careful when drilling the hole not to warp it. Use a good quality step bit that's "sharp".
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  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,785
    edited October 8
    Does anyone have a readable schematic/datasheet/engineering drawing for the CROWN CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST25? I cannot find one.

    Here you go. Not the most accurate but you can use the other charts from the other levers to compensate. http://samducksa.com/new/product/index_view.php?UidNum=373
  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 153
    edited October 8
    @kimjongskill the kaze lever is very snappy but with the switches being closer together, 10mm and I forget 16/16.5mm actuator the throw is very short. It's not as short as the 309 so if say it's somewhere between the myoungshin and 309. Overall I think it's worth it but that completely depends on your play style. My goal with the taeyoung was to imitate the fujin v2 and have a lever that has better instant run with a lighter grommet and I've achieved this with the taeyoung. I favor bigger throw over short so I went back to the taeyoung but managed to get the same feeling in my myoungshin. Instead of using an A2 for down I used the A3 with 8mm shaft and 15/15.5mm shaft. My taeyoung set up is 8mm shaft with 15mm actuator, A2 switch for down and thai switches. The smaller the actuator and shaft you have more room for error and adjustments that you can't imitate on a short throw. Gonna switch out the bushing in the kaze some time this week to try out golden fanta parts and I'll post results here. The test I use in order to see if the lever fits my play style is doing every variation of ewgf on 1p/2p then I move on to how fast and consistent I can cd then I do kbd. The biggest problem I found with kaze is my cd on 1p is very inconsistent and sloppy. As far as electrics go is say I do then the fastest on the kaze but that isn't enough for me to switch to it.

    @ykd np just trying my best to let ppl know about the kaze since there isn't much info about it.
  • blankaexblankaex Joined: Posts: 126
    m_abdalla3 wrote: »
    When going through the Panthera mod to fit korean stick, aside from the step drill 35mm, what mounting plates and cables (if needed) do i need. So i've got the Tae, step drill so far... i already have left over conversion harnesses from the 309MJ if its needed...
    m_abdalla3 wrote: »
    When going through the Panthera mod to fit korean stick, aside from the step drill 35mm, what mounting plates and cables (if needed) do i need. So i've got the Tae, step drill so far... i already have left over conversion harnesses from the 309MJ if its needed...

    @m_abdalla3 You'll prob need a universal plate to mount it. And the joystick cables to put on the switches. Sounds like you already have that though. That's about it. Be careful when drilling the hole not to warp it. Use a good quality step bit that's "sharp".

    You'll probably want to use that harness to connect it, and like VarintBaby said, you need a mounting plate. The Kowal one is nice but you can use the one from the MJ if you don't want to buy a new one. You should be set.
  • linkreincarnatelinkreincarnate Joined: Posts: 12
    Does anyone have a readable schematic/datasheet/engineering drawing for the CROWN CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST25? I cannot find one.

    Here you go. Not the most accurate but you can use the other charts from the other levers to compensate. http://samducksa.com/new/product/index_view.php?UidNum=373

    Awesome thanks. Do you happen to know if the st35 and st45 grommets for sale in places like focus attack are compatible with this stick? It looks that way. Also of any sources for oversized actuators?
  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,785
    For those who got the Fujin lever from Makestick recently, can you remove the top or is it glued in?

    The reason I ask is that there is a modified version of the Fujin V2 now being sold from the creator where the top can be removed. He is also selling replacement mounting plates for Japanese mounting systems. Hopefully Makestick or another place sells that version in the future.
    Does anyone have a readable schematic/datasheet/engineering drawing for the CROWN CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST25? I cannot find one.

    Here you go. Not the most accurate but you can use the other charts from the other levers to compensate. http://samducksa.com/new/product/index_view.php?UidNum=373

    Awesome thanks. Do you happen to know if the st35 and st45 grommets for sale in places like focus attack are compatible with this stick? It looks that way. Also of any sources for oversized actuators?

    Yup they should work but you have to replace the plastic bushings since they are different. As for oversized actuators, @wazwuz has the Golden Crown project. Whenever he will do another shipment of units, he will post it here.
  • ykdykd Tekken Player Joined: Posts: 60
    edited October 9
    For those who got the Fujin lever from Makestick recently, can you remove the top or is it glued in?

    The reason I ask is that there is a modified version of the Fujin V2 now being sold from the creator where the top can be removed. He is also selling replacement mounting plates for Japanese mounting systems. Hopefully Makestick or another place sells that version in the future.

    Any idea how long they have been on the market for ? I got one of the last batches they sold, haven't tried to take the bat off at all though. Will be taking a look. Definitely need to see about getting them available for us somehow.
  • ykdykd Tekken Player Joined: Posts: 60
    Does anyone have a readable schematic/datasheet/engineering drawing for the CROWN CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST25? I cannot find one.

    Here you go. Not the most accurate but you can use the other charts from the other levers to compensate. http://samducksa.com/new/product/index_view.php?UidNum=373

    Awesome thanks. Do you happen to know if the st35 and st45 grommets for sale in places like focus attack are compatible with this stick? It looks that way. Also of any sources for oversized actuators?

    Yes they are compatible.
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