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  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,810
    edited November 9
    Rokwho wrote: »
    Been testing a modified fujin v2 build the past couple days. I'm using a soft red makestick grommet with myoungshin bushing and a bored the stock actuator to accommodate an 8mm golden fanta shaft. Overall I'm not really getting any missed inputs and it's not as tiring as a stock fujin although the throw is wider due to the smaller shaft. Now I'm in the process of testing different switches with it. I credit Phantomnaut for this because i got the idea when he said the green arcade lever has closer switch positioning than the taeyoung so I decided to try it with the fujin.

    took your idea and had a go at myn i found a 15mm stand off thing?? so i bored that to 8mm leaving the fusion one alone chucked in waz's 8mm shaft turned out really good and the performance is... Wow! cant belive how good it feels and i only been playing for about 30min but feels solid man. This has to be close to green lever setup? i haven't had a chance to order a tayoung yet but this setup is real nice

    You need a 7mm shaft, which @wazwuz doesn't make anymore, to replicate the Green's travel distance. Also the actuator needs to be 14.75mm although that's not too much of a big deal.

    Otherwise it's pretty close and if it feels good, I would keep that setup.
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  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 182
    edited November 9
    @Rokwho lucky! 14.8mm is so close to green arcades actuators. I believe what they mean by closer switch positioning is that they're closer to the center. Which is why this set up will work better than the myounshins and the fujin will work best. Don't quote me on that but that's what I think
  • RokwhoRokwho Joined: Posts: 45

    You need a 7mm shaft, which @wazwuz doesn't make anymore, to replicate the Green's travel distance. Also the actuator needs to be 14.75mm although that's not too much of a big deal.

    Otherwise it's pretty close and if it feels good, I would keep that setup.

    yeah still a few mm off here and there probably the best im gonna do with the parts i have but im loving this setup as is
    hope you manange to get a lever from knee over the weekend at twt that would be sweet
    would love to see your thoughts on it

  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 182
    @the Phamtomnaut I messaged him this morning to see if he could make the shaft and actuator in derlin. Worst comes to worst I take the 10mm shaft and throw it on my cnc lathe then turn it down to size.
  • RokwhoRokwho Joined: Posts: 45
    edited November 10
    would be nice if waz made them parts im guessing would be a bit pointless money wise for a small run like that but intrested to see if he does
    really all he needs to do is make a fusion plate with closer placement then he could sell that as a pack plate,7mm shaft, delrin 14.75 acuator?
    i can give measurements if needed for fusion plate
  • HFXHFX SMYA Joined: Posts: 4,747
    Ok so right now I'm using etokki omni with golden fanta mod, I dont remember which actuator and shaft that im using at the moment but I am using the green grommet although might consider using the original black(soft) one, but green is better to accommodate me playing other games like GG, SF etc. The blue one is too high resistance for me.

    I only recently played around with the actuator, and I noticed one of the GFM actuator has a slight deformity (the round shape has a very slight dent of some short), I wonder will it have any effect?

    I am also wondering whats the diff between A2 and A3 switches? My etokki came with A2 by default, I'm interested in exploring other different types of switches to find ones that suit me best.
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  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 398
    HFX wrote: »
    Ok so right now I'm using etokki omni with golden fanta mod, I dont remember which actuator and shaft that im using at the moment but I am using the green grommet although might consider using the original black(soft) one, but green is better to accommodate me playing other games like GG, SF etc. The blue one is too high resistance for me.

    I only recently played around with the actuator, and I noticed one of the GFM actuator has a slight deformity (the round shape has a very slight dent of some short), I wonder will it have any effect?

    I am also wondering whats the diff between A2 and A3 switches? My etokki came with A2 by default, I'm interested in exploring other different types of switches to find ones that suit me best.

    GFM actuator should have perfecly rounded since it was process on a lathe. but you can measure the diameter all around to see if it oval, if you get defect product please PM me
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  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,810
    wazwuz wrote: »
    Hello, sorry for the delay. Golden Crown and Fanta next batch will be finished this weekend, just need to wait some screws to complete the mod kit.

    For Golden Crown I decide to add 0.8mm spring and 1.2mm spring. so you will have 4 different tension grommets (35, 45, 55, 65) and 4 different tension springs (0.6mm 0.8mm 1mm and 1.2mm). hopefully we can find interesting setup for tension.

    For Golden Fanta I see many of you have problems when use it on Fujin, Since I don't have fujin, Could you show me (with pic) what is the problem? so I can make revision to the actuator
    Rokwho wrote: »
    would be nice if waz made them parts im guessing would be a bit pointless money wise for a small run like that but intrested to see if he does
    really all he needs to do is make a fusion plate with closer placement then he could sell that as a pack plate,7mm shaft, delrin 14.75 acuator?
    i can give measurements if needed for fusion plate

    Interesting. let me think about this.
    my idea to make customizable switch position (maybe using modular plates configuration), but I have to sell it as an complete stick since I have to work with the base myungshin/taeyong base housing so the plate can be installed.

    Super hwoarang project is very cool. maybe I can making those with my CNC machine. but it wont cheap, since I have to use Thick sheet of delrin for material.

    So how about this for our next project:
    making ultimate K-stick: Golden Parts + modular "fujin" plate + "superWho" Collar. it won't cheap, but it will be the complete K-stick Experience.
    feel free to give your opinion or idea

    Here is the bottom end of the Fujin. The Golden Fanta actuator might grind the plate.

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  • RokwhoRokwho Joined: Posts: 45
    edited November 10
    @wazwuz we could easly mill down a myounshin ourselfs if you decide to make the plate would'nt really need to sell as a whole lever just use the original screw mounts for the plate problems with using golden fanta with fusion is the acuator on the golden fanta are rounder compared to the slimmer style acuator on the fusion if we use your acuators it catches and damages the aluminium plate on the fusion. Because of the switch position you cant really use any larger acuator than 15mm with the fusion or its gonna catch the plate so thats why we asking for plastic or delrin.

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  • TastyWhiffTastyWhiff Joined: Posts: 20
    @wazwuz try offering your golden fanta/crown to doujin. He's using 309mj atm and he's interested in trying other levers.
  • MariosMarios Joined: Posts: 44
    edited November 10
    Guys i have the Fujin v2 myelf but recently sadly those plastic white screws that holds the microswitch broke . anyone have any idea whats the actual model of the screw so i can order few ? cheers
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  • MariosMarios Joined: Posts: 44
    @Rokwho question how is your microswitches metal connectors not twisted and why your actuator is white ?whats the mm on the white one ?
  • RokwhoRokwho Joined: Posts: 45
    edited November 10
    Marios wrote: »
    @Rokwho question how is your microswitches metal connectors not twisted and why your actuator is white ?whats the mm on the white one ?

    are you referring to the microswith arms? just luck of the draw i guess no big deal if slightly bent or not my switch connectors came bent i just bent them back they probably do that so it fits in various arcade sticks but you got plenty of room in a razer stick white acuator is a diy its 14.8mm as im using waz 8mm shaft with it
  • RokwhoRokwho Joined: Posts: 45
    Marios wrote: »
    Guys i have the Fujin v2 myelf but recently sadly those plastic white screws that holds the actuator broke . anyone have any idea whats the actual model of the screw so i can order few ? cheers

    fujin plastic screws are 3mm width 14mm length would be fine if you brought metal ones as the plate is tapped just get the right length
  • MariosMarios Joined: Posts: 44
    @Rokwho Thank you so much for your quick answers , what exactly is diy tho ?
  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 182
    edited November 10
    @Marios diy it is just an abbreviation of "do it yourself.

    Wow this Fujin v2 idea is blowing up lol good job to everyone contributing to this!
  • MariosMarios Joined: Posts: 44
    @zero_requiem could you elaborate about the fujin idea you guys are talking havent understood what exacltly i have to do to try it lol
  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 182
    edited November 10
    @Marios What I originally came up with is boring out the hole on the stock actuator and using a stock myoungshin bushing with 8mm golden fanta shaft with to replicate green arcades levers. I then asked Wawuz to make a 7mm shaft and 14.75mm derlin actuators to have the exact sizes. The set up right now feels really good but I can only imagine it will get better once said parts are used with the fujin. Rokwho introduced the idea for a custom plate to bring microswitches closer to the center to further imitate green arcade levers.
  • LashfordLashford Joined: Posts: 7
    @zero_requiem Is there a significant difference between having the microswitches further away with a large actuator vs closer together with a smaller actuator?
  • eyeamg0dlyeyeamg0dly Joined: Posts: 55
    edited November 11
    if this new lever mod works well, you guys need to figure out how to produce and distribute it ;)

    also @Rokwho how are you making or modding that actuator? i wonder if they can be 3d printed
  • ykdykd Joined: Posts: 71
    wazwuz wrote: »
    Hello, sorry for the delay. Golden Crown and Fanta next batch will be finished this weekend, just need to wait some screws to complete the mod kit.

    For Golden Crown I decide to add 0.8mm spring and 1.2mm spring. so you will have 4 different tension grommets (35, 45, 55, 65) and 4 different tension springs (0.6mm 0.8mm 1mm and 1.2mm). hopefully we can find interesting setup for tension.

    For Golden Fanta I see many of you have problems when use it on Fujin, Since I don't have fujin, Could you show me (with pic) what is the problem? so I can make revision to the actuator
    Rokwho wrote: »
    would be nice if waz made them parts im guessing would be a bit pointless money wise for a small run like that but intrested to see if he does
    really all he needs to do is make a fusion plate with closer placement then he could sell that as a pack plate,7mm shaft, delrin 14.75 acuator?
    i can give measurements if needed for fusion plate

    Interesting. let me think about this.
    my idea to make customizable switch position (maybe using modular plates configuration), but I have to sell it as an complete stick since I have to work with the base myungshin/taeyong base housing so the plate can be installed.
    New tech (sorta)!

    Crown is working with Crazy Dongpal to get something going again after his version of the 307 didn't happen. Looks like Hibal got something to test with. So he was given a Shore A 35 grommet normally found on the Infiltration lever. He also have three new actuators of different sizes.

    Take note that it's running on the flat plate version of the 303 instead of the normal collar gate that has a wider funnel than the 307 or 309 levers. I do wonder that if this products finalizes, will have a normal and/or chopped collar version.



    EDIT: INFO ON OTHER NEW STUFF!

    So there was that post from a page back where someone was able to put a Fujin lever on a Razer Panthera without modding a 35mm hole. Yes it's a DIY creation but it looks like the creator SuperHwoarang has been developing it for some time. Check here for his posts showing his progress. He is also working on making custom tops too. For those who own the FLF or Kaze V2 or V3 levers will notice the bottom portion of his lever being very similar looking; there is also the red silicone grommet. This may be a future product sold by IST?!

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    Super hwoarang project is very cool. maybe I can making those with my CNC machine. but it wont cheap, since I have to use Thick sheet of delrin for material.

    So how about this for our next project:
    making ultimate K-stick: Golden Parts + modular "fujin" plate + "superWho" Collar. it won't cheap, but it will be the complete K-stick Experience.
    feel free to give your opinion or idea

    I'd definitely be in for the Ultimate K Stick package @wazwuz !
  • SnubnozeSnubnoze Joined: Posts: 53
    edited November 11
    wazwuz wrote: »
    Good news
    End of This month, R-Tech, my friend who have green lever from green arcade will visit me for installing GFM on his stick and attending small tournament in my town. I ask him to bring his green lever, Then I will have opportunity to break down all green lever parts and measure it my workshop. I will share it to you guys. Hopefully we can make 100% excact replica of this green lever.
    With all of this knowledge you've been gaining, have you given thought into making your own complete levers rather than just custom parts at some point?
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 398
    Snubnoze wrote: »
    wazwuz wrote: »
    Good news
    End of This month, R-Tech, my friend who have green lever from green arcade will visit me for installing GFM on his stick and attending small tournament in my town. I ask him to bring his green lever, Then I will have opportunity to break down all green lever parts and measure it my workshop. I will share it to you guys. Hopefully we can make 100% excact replica of this green lever.
    With all of this knowledge you've been gaining, have you given thought into making your own complete levers rather than just custom parts at some point?

    Yes, actually I just mention it :p

    "So how about this for our next project:
    making ultimate K-stick: Golden Parts + modular "fujin" plate + "superWho" Collar. it won't cheap, but it will be the complete K-stick Experience.
    feel free to give your opinion or idea"
    ArcadeStick-Indonesia.com
  • SnubnozeSnubnoze Joined: Posts: 53
    edited November 11
    wazwuz wrote: »
    Yes, actually I just mention it :p

    "So how about this for our next project:
    making ultimate K-stick: Golden Parts + modular "fujin" plate + "superWho" Collar. it won't cheap, but it will be the complete K-stick Experience.
    feel free to give your opinion or idea"
    I somehow glossed over that, but that sounds like a fantastic idea!

    Could get feedback on here to really nail down the best configuration or supply the various parts to allow the user to customize to their specifications. Like you said, probably won't be cheap but worth it for some. Could even make a base model too or a 309MJ equivalent for those that don't want to convert their case to house a collared stick.
  • RokwhoRokwho Joined: Posts: 45
    sounds great wazwuz liking the modular idea for fusion type plate gonna be even better now you have a actual green lever to work with
    just my opinion but i would use plastic or delrin when you design fusion type plate as it acts as a small gate having a metal one rubbing it is gonna be a no no
    either way you'll figure it out looking forward to the end result
  • StickNoobStickNoob Joined: Posts: 26
    StickNoob wrote: »
    hi guys I have a Crown 309 and I noticed when I move the stick back (1P side) it seems "looser" than the rest of the directions. How can I adjust the actuator to match the other directions?

    ok so I switched out the grommet for a 35st one and the problem appeared again (this time with up and down)

    How often does this happen?
  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 182
    Lashford wrote: »
    @zero_requiem Is there a significant difference between having the microswitches further away with a large actuator vs closer together with a smaller actuator?

    It changes the feel completely. With smaller actuators you kinda need the switch positioning changed depends tho really. There are a lot of factors involved
  • zero_requiemzero_requiem Joined: Posts: 182
    @wazwuz keep up the good work bro
  • ewgf87ewgf87 Joined: Posts: 23
    Chumpy wrote: »
    Someone posted months ago about the Myoungshin having a new white actuator. I ordered a Myoungshin from Makestick for testing/modding purposes and it did indeed come with the white actuator.
    It is 15,2mm.
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    That would be me. I bought a Fanta from Makestick and it had that smaller white actuator (15mm). Luckily I got the Golden Fanta kit.
  • noober2noober2 Pre 09 member Joined: Posts: 409
    evilj wrote: »
    sounds good,, thanks man.

    I bought a Korean stick a long time ago and it was like a wooden box.

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    I believe it was a myongshin stick...it was ok.

    Then I ordered a Saulabi stick and ordered a Tae Young to mod the Saulabi, but the Tae Young I got was extremely firm and I didn't like it.

    I'm guessing the Omni has a Tae Young but with a softer rubber.

    I was once in Incheon airport about 13 years ago and played tekken tag at one the cabinets they had, it was one of the best sticks I've ever played on.

    lol I think I might of bought that stick at a game store in daegu, did it have a 360 pcb with blue crown buttons?
  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,810
    edited November 12
    StickNoob wrote: »
    StickNoob wrote: »
    hi guys I have a Crown 309 and I noticed when I move the stick back (1P side) it seems "looser" than the rest of the directions. How can I adjust the actuator to match the other directions?

    ok so I switched out the grommet for a 35st one and the problem appeared again (this time with up and down)

    How often does this happen?

    Try moving it around to make sure the inconsistencies are from the grommet? Like turning it to another position.
  • lolmarklolmark Joined: Posts: 237
    wazwuz wrote: »
    Hello All, Sorry for the long delay ( Workshop is Crazy Busy lately) but Now Golden Fanta and Golden Crown is ready for Order.
    we only have 20set, so grab it fast.
    please visit http://arcadestick-indonesia.com/ to place an order.

    https://i.imgur.com/ZQghxYC.jpg
    Hi Wazwuz. Is there anyway to order 2 sets of the Golden Crown mod to save on shipping?

  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 398
    lolmark wrote: »
    wazwuz wrote: »
    Hello All, Sorry for the long delay ( Workshop is Crazy Busy lately) but Now Golden Fanta and Golden Crown is ready for Order.
    we only have 20set, so grab it fast.
    please visit http://arcadestick-indonesia.com/ to place an order.

    https://i.imgur.com/ZQghxYC.jpg
    Hi Wazwuz. Is there anyway to order 2 sets of the Golden Crown mod to save on shipping?
    PM me your paypal email and order, I will send paypal invoice
    ArcadeStick-Indonesia.com
  • lolmarklolmark Joined: Posts: 237
    Thanks! I hit you up.
  • wazwuzwazwuz Golden Fanta & Crown Project Joined: Posts: 398
    edited November 14
    Back from TWT finals.

    Unfortunately I failed my mission to get Knee's Green lever for personal and scientific use. It's mostly because of tournament and it would be rude to ask after he got eliminated in pools.

    I will say that I showed Knee my Taeyoung lever with Golden Fanta's 8mm shaft, 35A grommet and the discontinued 14.75mm actuator from the first pressing. He didn't try it in tournament but he really liked the feel of the combination. I let him know that the parts are from you @wazwuz and he didn't forget about it. He doesn't really have the time to experiment with it. I also referred him to the Taeyoung on Etokki. Hopefully he has some time to try it out after this.

    I did try his Green lever as a comparison and it's really close to my combination. The only obvious differences are that there is more give on the initial push and the sling back to the neutral. It might seem weird to explain but when you try R-Tech's lever @wazwuz you might get it. I think it might be the metal bushing for the grommet but that's a guess.

    To @blankaex I talked to Saint about the switches problem. The reason for his claim was because switches can vary in feel which I get. One set of Panasonic switches I got has one switch that triggers a bit differently. He did say he used a set of Panasonic switches for the finals.

    Thank you, I glad Knee doesn't forget abut Golden Fanta I gave him, hopefully he will test it and can give feedback to us.
    Yes, the only difference is the Metal bushing, and make sense it will give more on the initial push.

    I think I will use Omron Switch on my new Signature level.

    I see this on Saint Tweet, interesting he didn't use any metal actuator
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  • blankaexblankaex Joined: Posts: 133
    Back from TWT finals.

    Unfortunately I failed my mission to get Knee's Green lever for personal and scientific use. It's mostly because of tournament and it would be rude to ask after he got eliminated in pools.

    I will say that I showed Knee my Taeyoung lever with Golden Fanta's 8mm shaft, 35A grommet and the discontinued 14.75mm actuator from the first pressing. He didn't try it in tournament but he really liked the feel of the combination. I let him know that the parts are from you @wazwuz and he didn't forget about it. He doesn't really have the time to experiment with it. I also referred him to the Taeyoung on Etokki. Hopefully he has some time to try it out after this.

    I did try his Green lever as a comparison and it's really close to my combination. The only obvious differences are that there is more give on the initial push and the sling back to the neutral. It might seem weird to explain but when you try R-Tech's lever @wazwuz you might get it. I think it might be the metal bushing for the grommet but that's a guess.

    To @blankaex I talked to Saint about the switches problem. The reason for his claim was because switches can vary in feel which I get. One set of Panasonic switches I got has one switch that triggers a bit differently. He did say he used a set of Panasonic switches for the finals.

    Thanks for the info, he actually told me something similar some months ago but I didn't think it was about the same thing. He said that switches (and grommets for that matter) are made by hand, not in a factory by a machine or something. He told me that they're both tested by feel, by a person, so they'll all vary and there's no standard. If you get two 35A shore grommets, they won't feel the same for example. He said he was jealous of Japan for having Sanwa as a standard lol.
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