NieR: Automata - Platinum's Take on all the Weirdness of NieR and Drakengard

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  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,756 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Still pretty early in the game I think but shortly after finding the friendly robo village I had all the chipset spaces unlocked thanks to selling a bunch of loot I found on the map. Been running just +attack, +defense, auto-healing, offsensive-heal. Level 15 and been steam rolling level 40+ guys since in the rare case they hit me I'm back to full health in like 2-3 seconds. Generic high-dmg, life-steal build. Also auto-healing is nice since apparently shooting with your drone doesn't count as 'in combat' so as long as you aren't getting hit or meleeing you heal life after the slight delay.

    What does a diamond on a chip mean?

    I'm playing on normal, but do the higher difficulties give some recovery to your roll? I don't see the point of + range on evade when they can be chained together with no vulnerable frames.

    If I'm right about the chips with diamonds on them, that means they will take up the least amount of space for that type of chip. That seems to run true everytime I compare them to the others of their kind.

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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,781
    Diamond Chips are the best of the best. You have to really analyze the setup. I have a +5 Auto heal that takes the same amount of space as a +3.

    By the way, my comment earlier about body retrieval, those are just temporary buffs. Whenever you absorb them, you will notice a chipset icon near your health bar that flashes. When the effect wears off, you won't see that icon any longer.
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  • ShahenzanShahenzan to burn beasts Joined: Posts: 307
    ENDING E IS A BALLBREAKER GODDAMN
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,830
    The wandering couple sidequest is pissing me off. I want to finish it already and it seems they are in a location I can't get to yet. Lord of the Valley is another sidequest I had to abandon due to the boss being above my weight class.
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  • atiradoratirador It means "shooter" and I know it's a terrible username Joined: Posts: 1,644
    The wandering couple sidequest is pissing me off. I want to finish it already and it seems they are in a location I can't get to yet. Lord of the Valley is another sidequest I had to abandon due to the boss being above my weight class.

    Those are two sidequests I only completed on my 2nd or 3rd playtrough

    Don't fret about 'em, there'll be other chances to complete them with other characters
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,830
    I really like the side quests in this game. I like how some of them are it's own ongoing story, others shedding some light in the world's history and getting to know the recurring characters. So far I completed 40% of the quests and I'm still on my first playthrough.
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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,781
    I was thinking I was broke, then remembered that I can sell the machine cores. That 100K trophy was then easy LOL
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  • XhominidXhominid Knight of Dizzy Joined: Posts: 554
    Shahenzan wrote: »
    ENDING E IS A BALLBREAKER GODDAMN

    Stop it already goddamn! This is my first true time with a Yoko Taro game and I heard of the insanity and evil trollishness of his past games, I know that there is dickishness in this game but dammit man, you are just making it worse.
  • KeckaKecka Psycho Crushing that booty Joined: Posts: 1,742
    So I finally got the game because I'm a PAL pleb. Playing it in Japanese, both because I'm a pretentious weeb and because I want to practice my Japanese. So I get to the desert boss, and the "this cannot continue" moment. I go "Well, that must suck for the people playing in English. They get to this point and suddenly the song kicks in and everyone's chanting in Japanese, when the entire thing that made it cool is that the chant continues as part of the song. Because there's no way they spent the time, money and effort redubbing songs in two languages just for a small moment like this.

    Well, a quick youtube search shows me that, yes, they did go through that effort and the people who played it in English got the same cool moment. Yoko Taro, you crazy motherfucker, I don't even know why I doubted you.
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  • KeckaKecka Psycho Crushing that booty Joined: Posts: 1,742
    Optimus124 wrote: »
    Finished all of the "Story" endings of the game. It's not the prettiest title, but this is probably one of the most unique gaming experiences that I have had in a long time. The game definitely needs a nod for its soundtrack.

    Amazing soundtracks and balls-to-the-walls stories (sometimes to the point of being stupid and nonsensical, like is the case with like half the Drakengard endings) are a staple of Cavia/Taro titles. Hell, a lot of the songs in Automata are just straight up remixes of songs from the original Nier. Taro is also known for being notoriously hard to work with, to the point he himself has said he would yell and scream at his team for not being able to do what he wanted them to. They're basically art projects created by a pretentious Japanese man with quite probable mental issues. Because he's an artsy-fartsy crazy man obsessed with his vision, they often end up having great art, music and writing. But because he's a goddamn madman who is a director and not a programmer the game part has been mediocre at best. Only now he finally got people capable of making it play like a video game rather than some sort of weird 18 wheel trucking simulator.
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  • Jack_FrostJack_Frost M.C Joined: Posts: 6,979
    CHIEfy wrote: »
    I wonder if Gamestop will reimburse me with their rewards program - Pro members can buy select games (Automata being one of them) at a $10 discount for the first month of their release.

    I mean shit I preordered the game.

    or you can just get a membership at best buy and get 20% off every game

    any time

    or you can just keep supporting gamestop with your stupid spending habits :coffee:
    There aren't 50 hours in a 5 day span...
    CRYING
  • MCPMCP Joined: Posts: 2,222 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I got it for PC yesterday. They really fucked up the initial user experience on PC.

    It auto selects the embedded intel HD graphics and I had to learn about selecting graphics cards on an exe for the first time. That was odd and I had to quit the introduction part way through.

    At least Furi "strongly recommended" a controller. The mouse+keyboard is gimped compared with the controller, but I couldn't know that until I got part way through the unskippable introduction. Which means I had to restart again, only part way through the introduction, when I found out I could only shoot in eight fucking directions with a mouse while my character was twitching back and forth because movement and aiming are the same, apparently.

    Once I found out my PS3 controller works with an XBOX controller driver, I was tired of replaying the intro, so I paused it at the boss fight and got a beer. Hopefully it won't crash now.
  • Tekno VirusTekno Virus small man big strength Joined: Posts: 8,778
    Kecka wrote: »
    So I finally got the game because I'm a PAL pleb. Playing it in Japanese, both because I'm a pretentious weeb and because I want to practice my Japanese. So I get to the desert boss, and the "this cannot continue" moment. I go "Well, that must suck for the people playing in English. They get to this point and suddenly the song kicks in and everyone's chanting in Japanese, when the entire thing that made it cool is that the chant continues as part of the song. Because there's no way they spent the time, money and effort redubbing songs in two languages just for a small moment like this.

    Well, a quick youtube search shows me that, yes, they did go through that effort and the people who played it in English got the same cool moment. Yoko Taro, you crazy motherfucker, I don't even know why I doubted you.

    What song is that?
    The Gates of Creation are manifold. I vow to enter them all.
    Dellusions are inexhaustible.
    I vow to end them all.
    Sentient beings are numberless.
    I vow to save them all.

    The Kree Way is SUPREME.
  • KeckaKecka Psycho Crushing that booty Joined: Posts: 1,742
    Kecka wrote: »
    So I finally got the game because I'm a PAL pleb. Playing it in Japanese, both because I'm a pretentious weeb and because I want to practice my Japanese. So I get to the desert boss, and the "this cannot continue" moment. I go "Well, that must suck for the people playing in English. They get to this point and suddenly the song kicks in and everyone's chanting in Japanese, when the entire thing that made it cool is that the chant continues as part of the song. Because there's no way they spent the time, money and effort redubbing songs in two languages just for a small moment like this.

    Well, a quick youtube search shows me that, yes, they did go through that effort and the people who played it in English got the same cool moment. Yoko Taro, you crazy motherfucker, I don't even know why I doubted you.

    What song is that?

    Birth of a Wish.
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  • Swedish ChefSwedish Chef Cream of the Crop! Joined: Posts: 8,876
    Kecka wrote: »
    So I finally got the game because I'm a PAL pleb. Playing it in Japanese, both because I'm a pretentious weeb and because I want to practice my Japanese. So I get to the desert boss, and the "this cannot continue" moment. I go "Well, that must suck for the people playing in English. They get to this point and suddenly the song kicks in and everyone's chanting in Japanese, when the entire thing that made it cool is that the chant continues as part of the song. Because there's no way they spent the time, money and effort redubbing songs in two languages just for a small moment like this.

    Well, a quick youtube search shows me that, yes, they did go through that effort and the people who played it in English got the same cool moment. Yoko Taro, you crazy motherfucker, I don't even know why I doubted you.

    What song is that?

    TAKING YOU PUNKS DOWN!!!
    ^Bubbleberry_VII you are so godlike for making this.
  • XhominidXhominid Knight of Dizzy Joined: Posts: 554
    Kecka wrote: »
    Kecka wrote: »
    So I finally got the game because I'm a PAL pleb. Playing it in Japanese, both because I'm a pretentious weeb and because I want to practice my Japanese. So I get to the desert boss, and the "this cannot continue" moment. I go "Well, that must suck for the people playing in English. They get to this point and suddenly the song kicks in and everyone's chanting in Japanese, when the entire thing that made it cool is that the chant continues as part of the song. Because there's no way they spent the time, money and effort redubbing songs in two languages just for a small moment like this.

    Well, a quick youtube search shows me that, yes, they did go through that effort and the people who played it in English got the same cool moment. Yoko Taro, you crazy motherfucker, I don't even know why I doubted you.

    What song is that?

    Birth of a Wish.

    The song that plays at the first boss fight right? I only played it on English but I was easily able to hear the THIS CANNOT CONTINUE part throughout the whole song and made it extremely catchy.
    Really says something about Taro with how dedicated he is into making shit work for both sides.
  • Holy KnightHoly Knight Above the Heavens Joined: Posts: 987 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I was trying to iron out a shit load of quests prior to a certain part of the game that seemed huge and holy fuck do they have you go to all other areas you went to multiple times. I literally just spent all Saturday hammering out quests walking from area to area. I really love the environments so it didn't bother me too much but eventually this morning I said fuck it.

    Turns out you do get fast travel. I wish I knew but I suppose it was a hell of a relief to discover it myself.
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  • KeckaKecka Psycho Crushing that booty Joined: Posts: 1,742
    edited March 20
    Ending A is done. Since this is a Taro game I decided it was worth the potential spoilers to see how to achieve each ending, because I remember the insanity of Drakengard, and to a lesser extent even Nier. So apparently I don't have to collect all the weapons for the true ending in this game? H-has Yoko Taro learned that needless tedium is not a good thing, even if you're trying to make some stupid point? Also, fuck me for focusing on nothing but acquiring all weapons and upgrading them, then.
    I was trying to iron out a shit load of quests prior to a certain part of the game that seemed huge and holy fuck do they have you go to all other areas you went to multiple times. I literally just spent all Saturday hammering out quests walking from area to area. I really love the environments so it didn't bother me too much but eventually this morning I said fuck it.

    Turns out you do get fast travel. I wish I knew but I suppose it was a hell of a relief to discover it myself.

    I think being savvy hurt me in this game. I knew how everything worked in Nier, where you didn't get (extremely limited) fast travel until way late in the game, so I did the same thing. It's kind of a bummer that in turning Automata into more of a game, they seem to have gotten rid of some of the super weird shit from Nier, though, like the text adventure parts. The pretentious artist in me always liked the idea of "we don't have the budget or know-how to make this shit, so let's just present it in a way that isn't even a video game".
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  • Swedish ChefSwedish Chef Cream of the Crop! Joined: Posts: 8,876
    Kecka wrote: »
    Ending A is done. Since this is a Taro game I decided it was worth the potential spoilers to see how to achieve each ending, because I remember the insanity of Drakengard, and to a lesser extent even Nier. So apparently I don't have to collect all the weapons for the true ending in this game? H-has Yoko Taro learned that needless tedium is not a good thing, even if you're trying to make some stupid point? Also, fuck me for focusing on nothing but acquiring all weapons and upgrading them, then.
    You do still get something for collecting and upgrading all weapons but it's not part of the main storyline.
    TAKING YOU PUNKS DOWN!!!
    ^Bubbleberry_VII you are so godlike for making this.
  • KeckaKecka Psycho Crushing that booty Joined: Posts: 1,742
    Kecka wrote: »
    Ending A is done. Since this is a Taro game I decided it was worth the potential spoilers to see how to achieve each ending, because I remember the insanity of Drakengard, and to a lesser extent even Nier. So apparently I don't have to collect all the weapons for the true ending in this game? H-has Yoko Taro learned that needless tedium is not a good thing, even if you're trying to make some stupid point? Also, fuck me for focusing on nothing but acquiring all weapons and upgrading them, then.
    You do still get something for collecting and upgrading all weapons but it's not part of the main storyline.

    We'll see if I bother. I still have PTSD from grinding it out in the Drakengard trenches. At least it's not mandatory this time.
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  • atiradoratirador It means "shooter" and I know it's a terrible username Joined: Posts: 1,644
    Kecka wrote: »
    Ending A is done. Since this is a Taro game I decided it was worth the potential spoilers to see how to achieve each ending, because I remember the insanity of Drakengard, and to a lesser extent even Nier. So apparently I don't have to collect all the weapons for the true ending in this game? H-has Yoko Taro learned that needless tedium is not a good thing, even if you're trying to make some stupid point? Also, fuck me for focusing on nothing but acquiring all weapons and upgrading them, then.
    You do still get something for collecting and upgrading all weapons but it's not part of the main storyline.

    Well, it's one of the endings... probably the last ending you gonna get
  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,413
    edited March 20
    Kecka wrote: »
    Kecka wrote: »
    Ending A is done. Since this is a Taro game I decided it was worth the potential spoilers to see how to achieve each ending, because I remember the insanity of Drakengard, and to a lesser extent even Nier. So apparently I don't have to collect all the weapons for the true ending in this game? H-has Yoko Taro learned that needless tedium is not a good thing, even if you're trying to make some stupid point? Also, fuck me for focusing on nothing but acquiring all weapons and upgrading them, then.
    You do still get something for collecting and upgrading all weapons but it's not part of the main storyline.

    We'll see if I bother. I still have PTSD from grinding it out in the Drakengard trenches. At least it's not mandatory this time.

    Yes but this time the gameplay is actually fun.

    Well tell a lie, Drakengard 3 was decent on that front as well when the frame rate could handle itself but this blows it out of the water.

    Got ending A as well yesterday
    9S feels pretty weird to play, he melts single targets way above his level easy with hacking but I am missing 2B's heavy attacks a lot for swarms
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  • XhominidXhominid Knight of Dizzy Joined: Posts: 554
    Iduno wrote: »
    Kecka wrote: »
    Kecka wrote: »
    Ending A is done. Since this is a Taro game I decided it was worth the potential spoilers to see how to achieve each ending, because I remember the insanity of Drakengard, and to a lesser extent even Nier. So apparently I don't have to collect all the weapons for the true ending in this game? H-has Yoko Taro learned that needless tedium is not a good thing, even if you're trying to make some stupid point? Also, fuck me for focusing on nothing but acquiring all weapons and upgrading them, then.
    You do still get something for collecting and upgrading all weapons but it's not part of the main storyline.

    We'll see if I bother. I still have PTSD from grinding it out in the Drakengard trenches. At least it's not mandatory this time.

    Yes but this time the gameplay is actually fun.

    Well tell a lie, Drakengard 3 was decent on that front as well when the frame rate could handle itself but this blows it out of the water.

    Got ending A as well yesterday
    9S feels pretty weird to play, he melts single targets way above his level easy with hacking but I am missing 2B's heavy attacks a lot for swarms
    9S honestly for me playing through the entire game is WAY too broken and I honestly rather stay with 2B and A2 for that exact reason. Hacking makes even high level enemies too easy and the only issues he will have is if they are all zerging him at once constantly or on Hard Mode and Above where you can get killed in 2-3 hits(and he can still end them before that happens).
  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,781
    When playing on Hard, is the enemy makeup and AI different or do they just hit harder?

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  • D.R.E.D.R.E. One. Little. Voice. Joined: Posts: 1,325
    edited March 21
    was looking forward to the Nier release on PC, pre ordered weeks ago..i'm liking it, i'm not the having resolution issues others are reporting but its completely ignoring my crossfire config, and i'm getting 45-50 ish fps on avg with what looks to be pretty decent frame timings on one r9 fury in 1080p which is playable so i'm not totally complaining.. i am upgrading to a gtx1080 next week..so i should get a smoother experience soon but i have been having a ball with the game so far..my only experience with Platinum games is Bayonetta 1 (which this is def giving me flashbacks of the fun i had w that gm's combat) and didnt play any of the prequels to this game..but i definitely am loving this world and its aesthetic. and i havent played a proper "roam the world, and talk to the ppl and find the items" RPG type game in a while..so i'm digging it

    so i unlocked ending T apparently...lol

    and fuck me at having a sick load out ...dying in the desert...being brave enough to go retrieve my body..and dying again and losing that load out too...fuuu

    i'm right past "the earthquake" and just got back to the hangar after asking pascal "wtf?" so...dunno how far that is..(and dont wanna know) and i just unlocked "fast travel"..which is hella convenient
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,830
    Optimus124 wrote: »
    When playing on Hard, is the enemy makeup and AI different or do they just hit harder?

    The enemies just hit harder. A regular enemy can kill you in two or three hits. A boss can one shot you. Lock on is disabled when playing on hard.
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  • atiradoratirador It means "shooter" and I know it's a terrible username Joined: Posts: 1,644
    PC port doesn't seem to be really good

  • Tekno VirusTekno Virus small man big strength Joined: Posts: 8,778
    Ending E huh...
    The Gates of Creation are manifold. I vow to enter them all.
    Dellusions are inexhaustible.
    I vow to end them all.
    Sentient beings are numberless.
    I vow to save them all.

    The Kree Way is SUPREME.
  • Tekno VirusTekno Virus small man big strength Joined: Posts: 8,778
    Shooters are difficult; but certainly, don't give up. -Tekno
    The Gates of Creation are manifold. I vow to enter them all.
    Dellusions are inexhaustible.
    I vow to end them all.
    Sentient beings are numberless.
    I vow to save them all.

    The Kree Way is SUPREME.
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,756 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Man, this game knows how to make you feel like an asshole.
    Thanks to 9S broken as fuck hacking I managed to defeat the gold plated machines. Defeating these things somehow turned into a revenge story where other gold plated machines wanted me dead. I ran into the last batch of them at the flooded city. The last one lines were so full of hate for my characters I feel bad for it.

    After what they did, I have no fucks to give. I made sure to activate the chips that let them scream when they get hacked to death. I've destroyed thousands just for that simple pleasure alone.

    -Starhammer-
    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

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  • Tekno VirusTekno Virus small man big strength Joined: Posts: 8,778
    Starhammer wrote: »
    Man, this game knows how to make you feel like an asshole.
    Thanks to 9S broken as fuck hacking I managed to defeat the gold plated machines. Defeating these things somehow turned into a revenge story where other gold plated machines wanted me dead. I ran into the last batch of them at the flooded city. The last one lines were so full of hate for my characters I feel bad for it.

    After what they did, I have no fucks to give. I made sure to activate the chips that let them scream when they get hacked to death. I've destroyed thousands just for that simple pleasure alone.

    -Starhammer-

    Just kill me...
    The Gates of Creation are manifold. I vow to enter them all.
    Dellusions are inexhaustible.
    I vow to end them all.
    Sentient beings are numberless.
    I vow to save them all.

    The Kree Way is SUPREME.
  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,781
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    Starhammer wrote: »
    Man, this game knows how to make you feel like an asshole.
    Thanks to 9S broken as fuck hacking I managed to defeat the gold plated machines. Defeating these things somehow turned into a revenge story where other gold plated machines wanted me dead. I ran into the last batch of them at the flooded city. The last one lines were so full of hate for my characters I feel bad for it.

    After what they did, I have no fucks to give. I made sure to activate the chips that let them scream when they get hacked to death. I've destroyed thousands just for that simple pleasure alone.

    -Starhammer-

    I equipped that chip myself. Knowing the enemy's last cycle is eminent kinda makes you want to hack more.

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  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,756 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Starhammer wrote: »
    Man, this game knows how to make you feel like an asshole.
    Thanks to 9S broken as fuck hacking I managed to defeat the gold plated machines. Defeating these things somehow turned into a revenge story where other gold plated machines wanted me dead. I ran into the last batch of them at the flooded city. The last one lines were so full of hate for my characters I feel bad for it.

    After what they did, I have no fucks to give. I made sure to activate the chips that let them scream when they get hacked to death. I've destroyed thousands just for that simple pleasure alone.

    -Starhammer-

    Just kill me...

    "They took her smile.................So I took their lives. "

    -Starhammer-
    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

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  • GasarakiGasaraki Joined: Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    So how many of us have finished it now? I haven't 100 percent'd it yet but I've seen ending E
  • atiradoratirador It means "shooter" and I know it's a terrible username Joined: Posts: 1,644
    Gasaraki wrote: »
    So how many of us have finished it now? I haven't 100 percent'd it yet but I've seen ending E

    Got the japanese version, so I finished this game 20 days ago
  • GasarakiGasaraki Joined: Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    atirador wrote: »
    Gasaraki wrote: »
    So how many of us have finished it now? I haven't 100 percent'd it yet but I've seen ending E

    Got the japanese version, so I finished this game 20 days ago

    Yeah I know I'm one of the only people that responded to your messages in that time, and I also got the JP version lol

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