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  • FlameAngelZFlameAngelZ I'm gonna fuck you up! Joined: Posts: 937
    Yeah that's what people are saying...

    Back in the day, it was normal for a diverse cast... because it was "normal". People were a character first, then race/sex/whatever second.

    However, in today's society, even though it is NORMAL for the ST cast to be diverse, you cannot think that this is not a SJW move to please everyone, especially since nowadays a character is a race/sex/identifies as a sexual bi-fluid first, then a character with almost no development second. This idea comes from experience with recent comics, video games and everything related to the field.

    We can't judge by the trailer and it's all probably BS anyways... but I'm still expecting one of the main characters to be pansexual or something and a whole episode will be based on that.

    After reading more random nerd complaints... people basically saying it doesn't feel like "old" ST... more like JJA's ST. I believe the series is progressing... After all there's people out there who probably raged at the jump between ST and TNG and how it didn't resemble ST at all. To me it kinda looks like Mass Effect...

    We'll see how it develops.
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    I'll check it out, love me some Star Trek and I sat through the worst of Voyager (Love me some Voyager) so I think I can probably handle this show to should end up not being great.

    I'll also watch just about anything with Michelle Yeoh in it to.
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  • GravityGravity Joined: Posts: 2,385
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    Why can't they do another series like DS9? Is that to much to ask?

    I'll give this new series a shot. I'm already getting an enterprise vibe off that trailer.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,944
    Gravity wrote: »
    Why can't they do another series like DS9? Is that to much to ask?

    I'll give this new series a shot. I'm already getting an enterprise vibe off that trailer.

    The new series takes place in a Gap in Star Trek History, and making this series a prequel to the original TOS so it will not get confusion with the new movie timeline.
    I am more and more certain the new Trek movies aren't even made for Trekkies, they are made for people who don't watch Star Trek.

    And this series will be less about exploration and more about the Federation/Kligon War
    Or at least that how its appears from the teasers, promotional materials and the trailer
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  • Darc RequiemDarc Requiem The Light Emitting Darkness Joined: Posts: 8,265
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    Gravity wrote: »
    Why can't they do another series like DS9? Is that to much to ask?

    I'll give this new series a shot. I'm already getting an enterprise vibe off that trailer.

    Sisko was the damned man. DS9 took a few seasons to get it's footing but once it did the show was peerless. Going from DS9 to Voyager was like going from Second Impact Sean to Third Strike Sean.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,944
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    Gravity wrote: »
    Why can't they do another series like DS9? Is that to much to ask?

    I'll give this new series a shot. I'm already getting an enterprise vibe off that trailer.

    Sicko was the damned man. DS9 took a few seasons to get it's footing but once it did the show was peerless. Going from DS9 to Voyager was like going from Second Impact Sean to Third Strike Sean.

    You know how good a DS9 Episode is by how much hair Benjamin Lafayette Sisko has.

    Bad Episode
    292px-Benjamin_Sisko%2C_2369.jpg

    Good Episode
    220px-BenSisko.jpg
    Also with the good episodes is where Sisko stop actually trying to be a good guy, breaks intergalactic law, does horrific things, mostly war crimes all for the sake of the Federation and for Bajor.
    Which is bass as as Sisko stops being a tool and starts becoming his own man.

    Honestly with how the first few episodes went, Sisko should of lost command and got reassigned, maybe even rank lost for interfering with the local religion of Bajor.
    Making Sisko the Space Pope was a stupid idea, and in the later seasons it was made to a side note till the last episode where Sisko has a final show down with Gul Dukat

    There is also this, one of the most interesting DS9 episodes to date
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    The episode also gave us this Gift
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    Dax in TOS Uniform.
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  • FlameAngelZFlameAngelZ I'm gonna fuck you up! Joined: Posts: 937
    One of the most original episodes in ST.
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  • Darc RequiemDarc Requiem The Light Emitting Darkness Joined: Posts: 8,265
    Yeah DS9 took off when Sisko became Hawk from Spenser For Hire
  • maxxmaxx DIO THE DESTROYER Joined: Posts: 36,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    @Darksakul tng never visually made fun of black people. that era was the most balanced in terms of looks and acting for klingons. they had alot of black actors but nothing about them made fun of black people.
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  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Architect Joined: Posts: 5,466
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    Kurn was the best.
    That dude was so intense:



    Love how the dude talks like a rattlesnake ready to strike.
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  • orochi ryuorochi ryu Tevale Joined: Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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    I can not fucking wait for this!
    Please god don't let it be as bad as enterprise!!!

    Ninja edit..... Where My Garak fans at!?
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,944
    maxx wrote: »
    @Darksakul tng never visually made fun of black people. that era was the most balanced in terms of looks and acting for klingons. they had alot of black actors but nothing about them made fun of black people.

    What part of Satire you didn't get?
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  • maxxmaxx DIO THE DESTROYER Joined: Posts: 36,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Darksakul wrote: »
    maxx wrote: »
    @Darksakul tng never visually made fun of black people. that era was the most balanced in terms of looks and acting for klingons. they had alot of black actors but nothing about them made fun of black people.

    What part of Satire you didn't get?

    i get satire...nothing you posted implied satire..unless i missed a lol or sumtin
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    orochi ryu wrote: »
    I can not fucking wait for this!
    Please god don't let it be as bad as enterprise!!!

    Ninja edit..... Where My Garak fans at!?

    Enterprise got REALLY good by the end.... unfortunately it was too late, people already moved on....

    Yes, Garak is one of my favs in DS9.
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    orochi ryu wrote: »
    I can not fucking wait for this!
    Please god don't let it be as bad as enterprise!!!

    Ninja edit..... Where My Garak fans at!?

    Enterprise got REALLY good by the end.... unfortunately it was too late, people already moved on....

    Yes, Garak is one of my favs in DS9.

    Garak is a snarky badass
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    orochi ryu wrote: »
    I can not fucking wait for this!
    Please god don't let it be as bad as enterprise!!!

    Ninja edit..... Where My Garak fans at!?

    Enterprise got REALLY good by the end.... unfortunately it was too late, people already moved on....

    Yes, Garak is one of my favs in DS9.

    Enterprise had one of the dumbest deaths in Trek history. If they wanted to kill Trip, they could wrote something better than that. That shit was weak as fuck.
  • Bomberman3000Bomberman3000 The Headshaker Joined: Posts: 2,206
    Eh, for some reason Enterprise didn't have the same pull on me as the other Trek series did.
    My mom watched Voyager religiously. When Janeway was on her meds, things were pretty good. When she was off her meds, the episodes tend to see-saw heavily.
    That one episode of Voyager, "Threshold" should be in its own category of most WTF episodes of Star Trek ever.
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  • FlameAngelZFlameAngelZ I'm gonna fuck you up! Joined: Posts: 937
    Yeah I didn't enjoy Enterprise at first as well.... I start it to appreciate it years later when I watched the last seasons.

    That's the problem with prequels... they start from the beggining and bore you with dumb simple plots that by the time it gets good you already gave up on the show. Well it's not only prequels that does that but it sure feels like it.
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  • Darc RequiemDarc Requiem The Light Emitting Darkness Joined: Posts: 8,265
    I still remember watching the first episode of Enterprise with a couple of buddies. The theme song started and we all looked at each other with WTF expression on our face.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,944
    I still remember watching the first episode of Enterprise with a couple of buddies. The theme song started and we all looked at each other with WTF expression on our face.

    The music choice for Enterprise's opening is a unorthodox one for Trek
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    Heh you just reminded me we used to parody sing that song...
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  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 5,899
    Gravity wrote: »
    Why can't they do another series like DS9? Is that to much to ask?

    I'll give this new series a shot. I'm already getting an enterprise vibe off that trailer.

    DS9 was too much like Star Wars...
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    Jion_Wansu wrote: »
    Gravity wrote: »
    Why can't they do another series like DS9? Is that to much to ask?

    I'll give this new series a shot. I'm already getting an enterprise vibe off that trailer.

    DS9 was too much like Star Wars...

    If anything, DS9 was aping Babylon 5. Both shows were very similarly structured plotwise.
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  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Architect Joined: Posts: 5,466
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    DS9 got so shitty by the end.
    It's like they didn't know where to go with the Prophets/Sisko plot from the start, and by the end everything was a mess they tried to fix up as conveniently as possible.
    Then like so many shows that dry up creatively, everybody had to get married and shit.

    So many episodes that weren't necessary at all like ruining Morn/Kurn/Garak/Dukat, making Kira and Odo an item and killing Dax.
    There's so much I hated about the second half of DS9's run, yet it's still one of my favorite Star Trek shows overall, because what the show didn't have in decent story telling, they had in character and dialogue writing in the first half of the show's run.
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    war sisko was the best sisko. will fire bomb a whole family for the fucks of it. and comparing it to babylon 5 hurts but hella true.
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    maxx wrote: »
    war sisko was the best sisko. will fire bomb a whole family for the fucks of it. and comparing it to babylon 5 hurts but hella true.

    I don't like doing the comparison, because tonally, they take different lanes, but overall plot structures are too similar to ignore.

    Ben Sisko and John J. Sheridan are two motherfuckers not to be messed with... One intentionally started a war and committed war crimes galore, the other caused a military coup to overthrow a corrupt Earth government and nuked an ancient alien city to stop an invasion.
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  • Darc RequiemDarc Requiem The Light Emitting Darkness Joined: Posts: 8,265
    DS9 got so shitty by the end.
    It's like they didn't know where to go with the Prophets/Sisko plot from the start, and by the end everything was a mess they tried to fix up as conveniently as possible.
    Then like so many shows that dry up creatively, everybody had to get married and shit.

    So many episodes that weren't necessary at all like ruining Morn/Kurn/Garak/Dukat, making Kira and Odo an item and killing Dax.
    There's so much I hated about the second half of DS9's run, yet it's still one of my favorite Star Trek shows overall, because what the show didn't have in decent story telling, they had in character and dialogue writing in the first half of the show's run.

    They didn't want to kill Jadzia Dax. Terry Farrell didn't want to comeback for season 7. They didn't want to recast her character for the final season. Terry Farrell didn't want to pass on a role in Becker for one more season of DS9.
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    Most of you suckas should try out Star Trek Online.

    It's not canon to the TV series (or film) universe, but full blessing of CBSi, the developers did a pretty good job of providing a shit ton of things to do and storylines to get involved with (as most missions play out like an episode of the TV series, along with Seasons).
    Attempts to answer a fuckton of questions of what certain things happened in all the episodes (like who/what the hell Iconians are, whatever happened to the Romulans and Remans after their planets got blown to bits...), and yes, that includes visiting and messing around in places like Deep Space 9, getting dicked around by Q, and attempting to NOT be a bi-polar captain while spacing about in the Delta Quadrant.

    Oh, and for being a free(mium) MMO, you can do a lot of crap without spending any cash, surprisingly enough. And if you have to? Just ask a friend to give you shit.

    And before I go off sounding like Affinity (yech...), under CBSi the developers have been snagging a number of the actors to voice their respective characters in the game from whatever series they were a part of (don't expect Patrick Stewart or William Shatner, though... they probably cost too damn much).
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    I like the prequel premise of enterprise because the characters had a nationalist view of the world they came from they had to evolve past to do well. The new series will be relevant to today's society just like tng was relevant with speaking about ptsd with soldiers during the 90s.

    I hope it's just as allegorical as past st and not just flashy battles that the new movies only have.
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    bout to go deep sea youtube diving on some cardassian/dominion shit since i have no work tomarrow...wish me luck
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,014
    Who's watching this next week? I'm not a Trek fan but following the media around this has been a complete shitshow.
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    This will fail, and no one cares. Most people want to see what happens after the TNG, DS9, and Nemesis timeline... In the books, Janeway becomes an Admiral for example. Believe Kate Mulgrew is still alive. Don't know if Admiral Patrick Stewart would reprise his role...
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    It will fail because people do care. From what I been seeing CBS wants to scrub the 50 year continuity of the series and wants to abandon the longterm fans for a new audience. It seems most Trek fans hopped on The Orvillle for their fix.
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    The advertising has been lackluster as fuck.

    No hype for this at all.
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  • FlameAngelZFlameAngelZ I'm gonna fuck you up! Joined: Posts: 937
    Yeah definitely, I didn't even know it was coming out next week...
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    It will fail because people do care. From what I been seeing CBS wants to scrub the 50 year continuity of the series and wants to abandon the longterm fans for a new audience. It seems most Trek fans hopped on The Orvillle for their fix.

    I watched ep 1 of Orville, it was not good, but I'm going to give ep 2 a try just in case it was just a poor pilot. I've never found Seth McFarlane as a lead funny.