Brook PS3/PS4 "Fightboard" PCB Thread

jonyfrazejonyfraze jonyfrazeJoined: Posts: 552
edited January 2016 in Tech Talk
Hey Everyone,

Brook just announced a new 40mm x 40mm Square PCB called the "Fight Board". Myself and few SRK tech talk members had some early access to the board and have been testing it for the past few weeks. With the help of our feedback they are ready for retail production and will be available through Brook's retail channels worldwide later this month (November 2015) at around $40 (US).

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Features:
- Auto detects PS3 and PS4
- No 8 Minute Timeout on PS4
- SOCD Cleaner
- Firmware Updatable
- Optional Access to Turbo, Analog Controls (via firmware Update), TouchPad & Touchpad button, & LEDs.
- Common Ground

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*One thing to note is that It requires soldering to access the inputs and does not come with screw terminals. So break out those irons...

As far as initial performance goes myself and @wazwuz have found the board to perform slightly faster or atleast equal to a FC4 pad hacked board. We will be testing further and with more detail when the retail firmware is available.

Brook via @gogo.zippy will be closely monitoring this thread throughout its initial release and as always will be available for questions and feedback.
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  • jonyfrazejonyfraze jonyfraze Joined: Posts: 552
    edited December 2015
    Confirmed Availability:

    US:
    Paradise Arcade Shop
    Videogames New York
    Focus Attack (Coming In December)

    SE Asia via Indonesia:
    ArcadeStick Indonesia

    *Will Update this post as more vendors make this product available.
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  • jonyfrazejonyfraze jonyfraze Joined: Posts: 552
    edited November 2015
    Latest Firmware V11 *Includes fix for PS4 3.11 Update.

    Post edited by jonyfraze on
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    Reserved...
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  • jonyfrazejonyfraze jonyfraze Joined: Posts: 552
    Tensho wrote: »
    Looks promising, sure hope they make a screw terminal version down the road.

    stay tuned...

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  • Missing PersonMissing Person Quickly becoming the Sailor Moon S guy. Joined: Posts: 13,843
    I'd buy a couple.

    Please keep more stock than the 360 to PS4 converter had.

    I may tri-mod some sticks now that this is an option.
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  • The PhantomnautThe Phantomnaut Too obsessive over Korean arcade parts. Joined: Posts: 1,804
    Dreams do come true.

    I really want to get my hands on one. It probably isn't possible but is there a way to turn Touch Pad button into Select when in PS3 mode in a future firmware update?
  • CptMuntaCptMunta 3 Green Bars Joined: Posts: 1,207
    This looks really promising. Anyone tried with a Vita TV yet? Need to make my dedicated Umvc3/remote play stick :-)
  • ThrowYouThrowYou Joined: Posts: 64
    edited November 2015
    @jonyfraze and @GOGO.Zippy

    jonyfraze wrote: »
    Tensho wrote: »
    Looks promising, sure hope they make a screw terminal version down the road.

    stay tuned...
    also interested in a screw in terminal(not all of us can solder :bawling: )
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  • GOGO.ZippyGOGO.Zippy Joined: Posts: 1,088
    ThrowYou wrote: »
    @jonyfraze and @GOGO.Zippy

    Can you guys do an input lag test?
    jonyfraze wrote: »
    Tensho wrote: »
    Looks promising, sure hope they make a screw terminal version down the road.

    stay tuned...
    also interested in a screw in terminal(not all of us can solder :bawling: )

    @ThrowYou please look input lag testing

    @wazwuz capture a video VS FC4
  • FreudlosPsyDFreudlosPsyD Joined: Posts: 32
    edited November 2015
    I like how there seems to be about anything you'd possibly need including L3/R3 on a small 40x40mm footprint.
    I take it M1/M2 are differential pairs, probably necessary once future firmware revisions enable analogue inputs?
    edit: Nevermind, The wiring diagram over at the ps4 third party hack options thread clearly shows a pair of motors attached; question answered.

    Also: Forgive my ignorance, but what kind of games require a turbo mode/button in 2015?
  • GOGO.ZippyGOGO.Zippy Joined: Posts: 1,088
    I like how there seems to be about anything you'd possibly need including L3/R3 on a small 40x40mm footprint.
    I take it M1/M2 are differential pairs, probably necessary once future firmware revisions enable analogue inputs?
    edit: Nevermind, The wiring diagram over at the ps4 third party hack options thread clearly shows a pair of motors attached; question answered.

    Also: Forgive my ignorance, but what kind of games require a turbo mode/button in 2015?

    @FreudlosPsyD
    Although It's difficult to maintain in future. But we can make a customize version on analogous inputs...
  • Missing PersonMissing Person Quickly becoming the Sailor Moon S guy. Joined: Posts: 13,843
    I guess one other question that no one has asked.

    Does this board have soldering points for a headset jack?
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  • PaperTigrePaperTigre すごい!!!!! Joined: Posts: 2,200
    edited November 2015
    Dreams do come true.

    I really want to get my hands on one. It probably isn't possible but is there a way to turn Touch Pad button into Select when in PS3 mode in a future firmware update?

    This times a thousand, I personally have no use for the Share function, so having a button that is Select on PS3 and Touchpad button on PS4 would be wonderful
  • GOGO.ZippyGOGO.Zippy Joined: Posts: 1,088
    I guess one other question that no one has asked.

    Does this board have soldering points for a headset jack?

    @Missing Person
    Not support headphone function
  • NeoBloodNeoBlood kara bank account Joined: Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I've been toying with the idea of making a PS4 arcade cabinet in the future, and would love to not have to buy a couple sticks just for their pcbs or do a difficult pad hack. This looks right up my alley.
  • Zx-toleZx-tole Joined: Posts: 627
    Does this have 5v for powered joysticks?
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  • TenshoTensho Joined: Posts: 2,873
    edited November 2015
    Do PCB's need anything special to wire up the start + back/share buttons to act as a PS/home button or it's just simple wiring? :|
  • jonyfrazejonyfraze jonyfraze Joined: Posts: 552
    @Zx-tole yes you can tap into the 5v for the LEDs.
    @tensho "start + select = home" isn't set up for a macro yet. It can be problematic on ps4 since the share menu will come up.
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  • TenshoTensho Joined: Posts: 2,873
    Good info, kind of wanted to avoid anything like a switch or another button but I guess I'll just find a nice place for a third 24mm while keeping it clean. B)
  • jonyfrazejonyfraze jonyfraze Joined: Posts: 552
    CptMunta wrote: »
    This looks really promising. Anyone tried with a Vita TV yet? Need to make my dedicated Umvc3/remote play stick :-)

    ill give it a whirl on my vitatv and let you know..

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  • oldskoolgamingoldskoolgaming STMemory Joined: Posts: 105
    anyone from Singapore here and wants share shipping costs do contact me =)
  • AgiezeAgieze Joined: Posts: 304
    edited November 2015
    As soon as Brook announces this, the chinese company TimeHarvest proposes a clone something very similar (PS3/PS4/PC) for 48 bucks on alibaba and the 40 thieves ... is it only a coincidence?

    *** "2015 New Arrival USB Encoder Adapter Arcade controller converting PCB support PS4 & PS3 & PC chip board for arcade game machine"

    these chinese clones are starting to become very expensive. Considering we know thanks to the testers on the forum that the Brook board is more or less lagless, has no timeout etc, it seems far more worth the trouble than the clone, especially when the clone is more expensive and its reliability not yet proven.

    Yet in 2015, a similar board (clone or not) shouldn't go over 20$ imho.
  • GOGO.ZippyGOGO.Zippy Joined: Posts: 1,088
    Agieze wrote: »
    As soon as Brook announces this, the chinese company TimeHarvest proposes a clone something very similar (PS3/PS4/PC) for 48 bucks on alibaba and the 40 thieves ... is it only a coincidence?

    *** "2015 New Arrival USB Encoder Adapter Arcade controller converting PCB support PS4 & PS3 & PC chip board for arcade game machine"

    these chinese clones are starting to become very expensive. Considering we know thanks to the testers on the forum that the Brook board is more or less lagless, has no timeout etc, it seems far more worth the trouble than the clone, especially when the clone is more expensive and its reliability not yet proven.

    Yet in 2015, a similar board (clone or not) shouldn't go over 20$ imho.

    @Agieze
    Thanks your info
    Please shared link on Alibaba to me..
  • Missing PersonMissing Person Quickly becoming the Sailor Moon S guy. Joined: Posts: 13,843
    GOGO.Zippy wrote: »
    I guess one other question that no one has asked.

    Does this board have soldering points for a headset jack?

    @Missing Person
    Not support headphone function

    That's the only negative here, but that's no different than the FC4, and the positives far outweigh the negatives, so there's no chance that's going to be a deal breaker on the board.
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  • TenshoTensho Joined: Posts: 2,873
    GOGO.Zippy wrote: »
    Agieze wrote: »
    As soon as Brook announces this, the chinese company TimeHarvest proposes a clone something very similar (PS3/PS4/PC) for 48 bucks on alibaba and the 40 thieves ... is it only a coincidence?

    *** "2015 New Arrival USB Encoder Adapter Arcade controller converting PCB support PS4 & PS3 & PC chip board for arcade game machine"

    these chinese clones are starting to become very expensive. Considering we know thanks to the testers on the forum that the Brook board is more or less lagless, has no timeout etc, it seems far more worth the trouble than the clone, especially when the clone is more expensive and its reliability not yet proven.

    Yet in 2015, a similar board (clone or not) shouldn't go over 20$ imho.

    @Agieze
    Thanks your info
    Please shared link on Alibaba to me..

    http://timeharvest.net/2015-new-arrival-usb-encoder-adapter-arcade-controller-converting-pcb-support-ps4-ps3-pc-chip-board-for-arcade-game-machine-p-876.html
  • GOGO.ZippyGOGO.Zippy Joined: Posts: 1,088
    Tensho wrote: »
    GOGO.Zippy wrote: »
    Agieze wrote: »
    As soon as Brook announces this, the chinese company TimeHarvest proposes a clone something very similar (PS3/PS4/PC) for 48 bucks on alibaba and the 40 thieves ... is it only a coincidence?

    *** "2015 New Arrival USB Encoder Adapter Arcade controller converting PCB support PS4 & PS3 & PC chip board for arcade game machine"

    these chinese clones are starting to become very expensive. Considering we know thanks to the testers on the forum that the Brook board is more or less lagless, has no timeout etc, it seems far more worth the trouble than the clone, especially when the clone is more expensive and its reliability not yet proven.

    Yet in 2015, a similar board (clone or not) shouldn't go over 20$ imho.

    @Agieze
    Thanks your info
    Please shared link on Alibaba to me..

    http://timeharvest.net/2015-new-arrival-usb-encoder-adapter-arcade-controller-converting-pcb-support-ps4-ps3-pc-chip-board-for-arcade-game-machine-p-876.html
    @Tensho
    It's not BROOK ...
  • SpoonzSpoonz Trinigamer Joined: Posts: 282 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Fantastic news. Can't wait to try the board out.
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  • chaos3twochaos3two Joined: Posts: 14
    @jonyfraze @GOGO.Zippy Defo need an update on public availability as i have 4 TE1s & a hitbox i need all upgraded to PS4
  • x64x64 Fuck your SRK Joined: Posts: 3,187
    Zx-tole wrote: »
    Does this have 5v for powered joysticks?

    Looks like only 3.3v, which is fine for the Spark and Gamerfinger ones. Not so fine for the Sanwa Flash1.

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    @chaos3two as soon as we get the word I'll let y'all know..
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  • GummoGummo Can We Mod It? Yes, We Can! Joined: Posts: 5,523
    Zx-tole wrote: »
    Does this have 5v for powered joysticks?

    Looks like only 3.3v, which is fine for the Spark and Gamerfinger ones. Not so fine for the Sanwa Flash1.

    Of course theres a 5v source. From the usb.
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    In for later
  • KempoKempo Joined: Posts: 62
    Received an E-mail from Brook, they said they'll be available early December for $39.95 with $30 shipping to the UK. They said to E-mail them directly to place an order.
  • ArinexArinex Joined: Posts: 48
    This is great news.
  • YamatoYamato Joined: Posts: 88
    Kempo wrote: »
    Received an E-mail from Brook, they said they'll be available early December for $39.95 with $30 shipping to the UK. They said to E-mail them directly to place an order.

    30$ for such a small PCB is a ripoff :(
    Registered bubble letter could be waaaay cheaper to Europe
    Any chance this PCB could be blocked via an update from Sony ? I suppose it's unlicensed so it's a risk, isn't it ?
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    Nice!

    Any chance to buy in Video Games New York too?
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