The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: A SHADOW FALLS!

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  • Chun-Li_ForeverChun-Li_Forever Chun-Li Fan Forever Joined: Posts: 835
    So I just read the Udon Street Fighter unlimited #1 that came out today. I am a noob to this plot line, not sure how it fits in much or what preceded it in the previous issues but this is basically what happened:
    It starts with the recap of Ryu and his struggle with E Ryu. It shows Sakura trying to beat Satui no Hado out of him and getting her ass beat, Ken meets the same fate as well. Then Gouken shows up and tries to beat/school the evil out of Ryu. Ryu while beating Goukens ass comes to a realization that Akuma was right, then he kills Gouken.

    Next Ryu is seen meditating near a river contemplating on E Ryu and how he can get rid of it... if he can get rid of it. Ken comes up, they chat them Ryu reveals that he is looking for guidance from Sagat. Ken gets pissed and leaves, Sagat shows up, they train and Sagat tells him along the lines of you are already a demon, you just don't want to admit it. They make references to the scares on each others body, How Sagat left the evil behind (presumably his exit from Shadowloo) so on. Ryu walks away and says he needs to meet the only person who knew Gouken better then himself. It ends with him walking up to a house on a hill.

    Then it cuts to the new shadowloo headquarters and It seems that Bison is dead, or no longer with Shadowloo or something, there is someone in Bisons chair, he is a shadowy figure so you can't make out any features but he wears Bisons hat. Vega summons him and says they caught someone trying to sneak into the compound, they walk down the hallway and Chun Li is tied up in a chair. Then it ends.

    The very end has a short story featuring Alex and Haggar, nothing to do with the previous story. Balrog and Guile are featured on the cover of next months addition.

    Characters featured in the comic are: Ken, Ryu, Gill, Akuma, Gouken, Gen, Sakura, Sagat, Dhalsim, the mysterious Bison stand in and Alex and Haggar in the short story at the end.

    Does anyone know how these comics fit into the story, if they fit into the story? It was my first SF comic and I will say it has pretty good artwork and the story wasn't too terribly bad.

    Just a disclaimer, the Udon comics have zero tie-ins to the SFV game. Any connections should be considered coincidental until actual confirmation.

    But for me, I am one of the very few people who actually love and care about the Street fighter story and characters. I have every comic and manga to date, including all of the Udon ones.

    I'm particularly excited to see how Street Fighter Unlimited is gonna play out. While it may not be canon to the games, it certainly gives the characters and story some depth.
    Ryu fighting the SNH and fear of destroying his friends has something he's always struggled with. But to see Sagat train with him and have him think that there was always a demon inside him, just not willing to admit it, that just makes things very interesting. you always see Ryu as this main protagonist, the good guy with an inner struggle. Having him maybe come to grasp that the SNH could be his true nature just makes his story more intriguing, but it draws me into thinking about his story from before, and how that all relates.

    I get this feeling that there are gonna be two arcs: One with Ryu trying to find his answers about himself and the SNH. The second about Shadaloo. i feel there is gonna be more focus into that plot in the next issue. but having Chun-Li being tied up in the end inside Shadaloo's headquarters (or wherever that was) was very unexpected, but also exciting. So many ways this can be played out. So many questions: What's gonna happen with Chun-Li now? Did she let herself be captured on purpose? I feel we're gonna revisit the whole Chun-Li revenge against M. Bison and Shadaloo story again. But that's all speculation until the next issue anyways.

    overall, art was good, story has got me hooked. I doubt this is gonna give us any insight to the actual SFV plot or story mode content, but it's nice to think about it, maybe find some connections and speculations.
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  • Time MageTime Mage Viewtiful! Joined: Posts: 271 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Daemos wrote: »
    Time Mage wrote: »
    So, how powerful should we consider Juri to be, storyline-wise? Current Ryu level? Maybe not that much?

    FSE Juri would probably at least rank as high as SF4 Ryu who singlehandedly beat Seth. What's interesting about her is that she can simultaneously be of one of the strongest and the weakest characters of the game thanks to that eye of hers. One can argue that one good blow to the face could defeat her, but that would be difficult to achieve for most Street Fighters.

    Is it (the eye) really that unstable? I didn't dig too much in Super story (endings and that's about it), but it definitely looks like a fatal flaw. Less powerful fighters than her with the eye "on", but experienced/skilled enough could at least get a hit in there, so she doesn't look that impressive from that point of view. Then again, they would have needed to know about the eye weakness in the first place.
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  • Plaid_UnicornPlaid_Unicorn Camron should have won an Oscar for Paid in Full Joined: Posts: 9,931
    So I just read the Udon Street Fighter unlimited #1 that came out today. I am a noob to this plot line, not sure how it fits in much or what preceded it in the previous issues but this is basically what happened:
    It starts with the recap of Ryu and his struggle with E Ryu. It shows Sakura trying to beat Satui no Hado out of him and getting her ass beat, Ken meets the same fate as well. Then Gouken shows up and tries to beat/school the evil out of Ryu. Ryu while beating Goukens ass comes to a realization that Akuma was right, then he kills Gouken.

    Next Ryu is seen meditating near a river contemplating on E Ryu and how he can get rid of it... if he can get rid of it. Ken comes up, they chat them Ryu reveals that he is looking for guidance from Sagat. Ken gets pissed and leaves, Sagat shows up, they train and Sagat tells him along the lines of you are already a demon, you just don't want to admit it. They make references to the scares on each others body, How Sagat left the evil behind (presumably his exit from Shadowloo) so on. Ryu walks away and says he needs to meet the only person who knew Gouken better then himself. It ends with him walking up to a house on a hill.

    Then it cuts to the new shadowloo headquarters and It seems that Bison is dead, or no longer with Shadowloo or something, there is someone in Bisons chair, he is a shadowy figure so you can't make out any features but he wears Bisons hat. Vega summons him and says they caught someone trying to sneak into the compound, they walk down the hallway and Chun Li is tied up in a chair. Then it ends.

    The very end has a short story featuring Alex and Haggar, nothing to do with the previous story. Balrog and Guile are featured on the cover of next months addition.

    Characters featured in the comic are: Ken, Ryu, Gill, Akuma, Gouken, Gen, Sakura, Sagat, Dhalsim, the mysterious Bison stand in and Alex and Haggar in the short story at the end.

    Does anyone know how these comics fit into the story, if they fit into the story? It was my first SF comic and I will say it has pretty good artwork and the story wasn't too terribly bad.

    Just a disclaimer, the Udon comics have zero tie-ins to the SFV game. Any connections should be considered coincidental until actual confirmation.

    But for me, I am one of the very few people who actually love and care about the Street fighter story and characters. I have every comic and manga to date, including all of the Udon ones.

    I'm particularly excited to see how Street Fighter Unlimited is gonna play out. While it may not be canon to the games, it certainly gives the characters and story some depth.
    Ryu fighting the SNH and fear of destroying his friends has something he's always struggled with. But to see Sagat train with him and have him think that there was always a demon inside him, just not willing to admit it, that just makes things very interesting. you always see Ryu as this main protagonist, the good guy with an inner struggle. Having him maybe come to grasp that the SNH could be his true nature just makes his story more intriguing, but it draws me into thinking about his story from before, and how that all relates.

    I get this feeling that there are gonna be two arcs: One with Ryu trying to find his answers about himself and the SNH. The second about Shadaloo. i feel there is gonna be more focus into that plot in the next issue. but having Chun-Li being tied up in the end inside Shadaloo's headquarters (or wherever that was) was very unexpected, but also exciting. So many ways this can be played out. So many questions: What's gonna happen with Chun-Li now? Did she let herself be captured on purpose? I feel we're gonna revisit the whole Chun-Li revenge against M. Bison and Shadaloo story again. But that's all speculation until the next issue anyways.

    overall, art was good, story has got me hooked. I doubt this is gonna give us any insight to the actual SFV plot or story mode content, but it's nice to think about it, maybe find some connections and speculations.

    Ahh, that's good to know. So since you have some knowledge on the previous entries...
    The beginning was a flash back as in was in a previous comic correct? Also is Bison really gone? who do you think was the impostor at the end?

    I agree the story was really good, I can't wait to see where it goes from here.
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  • Chun-Li_ForeverChun-Li_Forever Chun-Li Fan Forever Joined: Posts: 835
    So I just read the Udon Street Fighter unlimited #1 that came out today. I am a noob to this plot line, not sure how it fits in much or what preceded it in the previous issues but this is basically what happened:
    It starts with the recap of Ryu and his struggle with E Ryu. It shows Sakura trying to beat Satui no Hado out of him and getting her ass beat, Ken meets the same fate as well. Then Gouken shows up and tries to beat/school the evil out of Ryu. Ryu while beating Goukens ass comes to a realization that Akuma was right, then he kills Gouken.

    Next Ryu is seen meditating near a river contemplating on E Ryu and how he can get rid of it... if he can get rid of it. Ken comes up, they chat them Ryu reveals that he is looking for guidance from Sagat. Ken gets pissed and leaves, Sagat shows up, they train and Sagat tells him along the lines of you are already a demon, you just don't want to admit it. They make references to the scares on each others body, How Sagat left the evil behind (presumably his exit from Shadowloo) so on. Ryu walks away and says he needs to meet the only person who knew Gouken better then himself. It ends with him walking up to a house on a hill.

    Then it cuts to the new shadowloo headquarters and It seems that Bison is dead, or no longer with Shadowloo or something, there is someone in Bisons chair, he is a shadowy figure so you can't make out any features but he wears Bisons hat. Vega summons him and says they caught someone trying to sneak into the compound, they walk down the hallway and Chun Li is tied up in a chair. Then it ends.

    The very end has a short story featuring Alex and Haggar, nothing to do with the previous story. Balrog and Guile are featured on the cover of next months addition.

    Characters featured in the comic are: Ken, Ryu, Gill, Akuma, Gouken, Gen, Sakura, Sagat, Dhalsim, the mysterious Bison stand in and Alex and Haggar in the short story at the end.

    Does anyone know how these comics fit into the story, if they fit into the story? It was my first SF comic and I will say it has pretty good artwork and the story wasn't too terribly bad.

    Just a disclaimer, the Udon comics have zero tie-ins to the SFV game. Any connections should be considered coincidental until actual confirmation.

    But for me, I am one of the very few people who actually love and care about the Street fighter story and characters. I have every comic and manga to date, including all of the Udon ones.

    I'm particularly excited to see how Street Fighter Unlimited is gonna play out. While it may not be canon to the games, it certainly gives the characters and story some depth.
    Ryu fighting the SNH and fear of destroying his friends has something he's always struggled with. But to see Sagat train with him and have him think that there was always a demon inside him, just not willing to admit it, that just makes things very interesting. you always see Ryu as this main protagonist, the good guy with an inner struggle. Having him maybe come to grasp that the SNH could be his true nature just makes his story more intriguing, but it draws me into thinking about his story from before, and how that all relates.

    I get this feeling that there are gonna be two arcs: One with Ryu trying to find his answers about himself and the SNH. The second about Shadaloo. i feel there is gonna be more focus into that plot in the next issue. but having Chun-Li being tied up in the end inside Shadaloo's headquarters (or wherever that was) was very unexpected, but also exciting. So many ways this can be played out. So many questions: What's gonna happen with Chun-Li now? Did she let herself be captured on purpose? I feel we're gonna revisit the whole Chun-Li revenge against M. Bison and Shadaloo story again. But that's all speculation until the next issue anyways.

    overall, art was good, story has got me hooked. I doubt this is gonna give us any insight to the actual SFV plot or story mode content, but it's nice to think about it, maybe find some connections and speculations.

    Ahh, that's good to know. So since you have some knowledge on the previous entries...
    The beginning was a flash back as in was in a previous comic correct? Also is Bison really gone? who do you think was the impostor at the end?

    I agree the story was really good, I can't wait to see where it goes from here.
    The last issue that Udon released (Super Street Fighter Volume 2 Hyper Fighting), Ryu succumbs to the dark hadou and becomes Evil Ryu. He gets the dark power suppressed by him (thanks to Gill), but it still lingers. So yes, it's a flashback to the previous comic.

    And is Bison really, really gone? how many times can you kill the dude? He comes back every time. I mean, Akuma kills him in the end of SFII and TAH-DAH, he's back in SFIV. Heck, He was killed in the end of SFalphaIII and he's still survived.
    However, the way he was presented. And one of his quotes was "Running shadaloo since bison's untimely demise is so taxing". Now given that the person saying this was wearing Bison's clothes makes me suspect of an imposter. maybe Seth from SIN? All speculation. But there is neutral interest as to why Vega and "Bison" has interest in Chun-Li.
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    CHUN-LI FAN COMICS

    CHUN-LI: THE GAUNTLET
    Chun-Li takes on Shadaloo... alone! Will she survive?

    Cover Page

    Pages
    01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30,
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    EVIL RYU V. CHUN-LI
    Chun-Li fights to break Ryu free from the Satsui no Hado

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    01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09

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  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 10,641
    Time Mage wrote: »
    Daemos wrote: »
    Time Mage wrote: »
    So, how powerful should we consider Juri to be, storyline-wise? Current Ryu level? Maybe not that much?

    FSE Juri would probably at least rank as high as SF4 Ryu who singlehandedly beat Seth. What's interesting about her is that she can simultaneously be of one of the strongest and the weakest characters of the game thanks to that eye of hers. One can argue that one good blow to the face could defeat her, but that would be difficult to achieve for most Street Fighters.

    Is it (the eye) really that unstable? I didn't dig too much in Super story (endings and that's about it), but it definitely looks like a fatal flaw. Less powerful fighters than her with the eye "on", but experienced/skilled enough could at least get a hit in there, so she doesn't look that impressive from that point of view. Then again, they would have needed to know about the eye weakness in the first place.

    Juri pretty much lives with this risk/reward kind of augment. It's not like she has a choice. Without the Eye, she's a weakling. With it - she bodied 15 fighters all by herself, without it even being powered up to 100% level
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  • bakfromonbakfromon True Void Joined: Posts: 2,047
    Daemos wrote: »
    Time Mage wrote: »
    So, how powerful should we consider Juri to be, storyline-wise? Current Ryu level? Maybe not that much?

    FSE Juri would probably at least rank as high as SF4 Ryu who singlehandedly beat Seth. What's interesting about her is that she can simultaneously be of one of the strongest and the weakest characters of the game thanks to that eye of hers. One can argue that one good blow to the face could defeat her, but that would be difficult to achieve for most Street Fighters.

    I don't think it would be a total defeat for Juri if someone managed to extensively damage her FSE. Juri isn't solely reliant on her device like Seth is, and although it would probably provide a major advantage to her opponent it's not like she's isn't already a skilled fighter without it. Juri without her eye would probably be just as effective with her skills as Sagat is without his eye. The difference being that one is trained with ki extensively, and the other achieves ki manipulation through artificial means. If someone like Dan or Sean were somehow by a chance of luck manage to cause her FSE to malfunction it still wouldn't be a clear victory for them. They would still have a champion caliber fighter to deal with, just without the hax.
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  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Eagle will return Joined: Posts: 7,926
    In the UDON comic, it states that Dhalsim saved Ryu from the "Shadowloo Island". Since the locations given in Alpha and SF2 are in/around Thailand, I think that is referring to SF4. When you fight on the "Secret Labratory" stage, the marker goes somewhere in the Pacific and says "Unknown".

    And Ryu is going to a house in that comic. We know 3 things about that person:
    -They knew/trained with Gouken longer than Ryu
    -They're in Japan (going by the architecture)
    -They have a settled residence where they are willing to meet and train Ryu.

    With this info, I think he's coming for RETSU.
  • AriesWarlockAriesWarlock Joined: Posts: 3,451
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    Time Mage wrote: »
    So, how powerful should we consider Juri to be, storyline-wise? Current Ryu level? Maybe not that much?

    It's hard to tell. Boss tier? Her rival match with Bison involves him attacking her from behind, and they talk like if it was a common thing in shadaloo. If anybody here read DC's new 52 The Ravagers, that's kinda how I see Juri going up the shadaloo or S.I.N. ladder. We just don't know enough about her. Hopefully SFV's story mode will offer some more meat, and no more "hey, you look interesting, let's fight!" But I think being one of the younger fighter she still has room to grow.

    I also hope they don't try to make Ryu into a Goku. I want to see the equivalents of SnH from the other Asian countries.

    Nash is still boss though

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    That's like the Virtua Fighter anime, Akira getting so full of himself.
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  • DaemosDaemos Queen Bitch of the Universe Joined: Posts: 9,799 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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    bakfromon wrote: »
    Daemos wrote: »
    Time Mage wrote: »
    So, how powerful should we consider Juri to be, storyline-wise? Current Ryu level? Maybe not that much?

    FSE Juri would probably at least rank as high as SF4 Ryu who singlehandedly beat Seth. What's interesting about her is that she can simultaneously be of one of the strongest and the weakest characters of the game thanks to that eye of hers. One can argue that one good blow to the face could defeat her, but that would be difficult to achieve for most Street Fighters.

    I don't think it would be a total defeat for Juri if someone managed to extensively damage her FSE. Juri isn't solely reliant on her device like Seth is, and although it would probably provide a major advantage to her opponent it's not like she's isn't already a skilled fighter without it. Juri without her eye would probably be just as effective with her skills as Sagat is without his eye. The difference being that one is trained with ki extensively, and the other achieves ki manipulation through artificial means. If someone like Dan or Sean were somehow by a chance of luck manage to cause her FSE to malfunction it still wouldn't be a clear victory for them. They would still have a champion caliber fighter to deal with, just without the hax.

    Thing is we don't know what Juri's natural chi levels are, but I am willing to bet that the FSE allows her to manipulate levels of chi far beyond what is humanly possible for her (and most Street Fighters but a handful). At merely 25, she is able to do things only the upper echelons of Street Fighters can do. I'm sure she is an excellent world class fighter without the FSE otherwise she wouldn't have been chosen for the experiment. I just don't see her being able to generate the chi levels we saw with her experience and fighting art.

    Without FSE, she is at Karin or Cammy's level at best IMO. Both fighters trained extensively all their life just like Juri, so it makes sense for them to be around the same tier level.

    And is Bison really, really gone? how many times can you kill the dude? He comes back every time. I mean, Akuma kills him in the end of SFII and TAH-DAH, he's back in SFIV. Heck, He was killed in the end of SFalphaIII and he's still survived.
    However, the way he was presented. And one of his quotes was "Running shadaloo since bison's untimely demise is so taxing". Now given that the person saying this was wearing Bison's clothes makes me suspect of an imposter. maybe Seth from SIN? All speculation. But there is neutral interest as to why Vega and "Bison" has interest in Chun-Li.[/spoiler]


    The comics follow a different continuity from the official series.

    As of SF4, Bison was only 'killed' twice. Once at the hand of Rose 'many years' before SF4 (referring to Alpha 1/2 ending most likely) and once at the end of SFA3/SF2 as seen in the Aftermath video. In the official continuity Bison is not dead. Even before SF4 was released, Capcom Japan at one point stated that Bison/Shadaloo are alive during the events of SF3. It remains to be seen what happens.

    In the Udon continuity, Bison is dead. Killed at the hands of Akuma and everyone and their mother. I'm curious to see where Udon take this 'shadowy Bison-like figure'. They will likely revive him at some point to keep in line with the official timeline I think.
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  • DaemosDaemos Queen Bitch of the Universe Joined: Posts: 9,799 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    mykka wrote: »
    I'm hoping this is the last time we have to deal with Ryu's problem with E.Ryu. Its getting really stale.

    There is no indication that Evil Ryu is still a thing. The new trailer doesn't support the idea of Evil Ryu either, it's just an effect.

    The very existence of Necalli makes characters like Evil Ryu redundant. Since he fills the gap they left behind without being a 'clone'.
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    You might to actually watch the Juri OVA. You put your foot so deep into your mouth that your toes are wiggling out of your ass right now.

    Edit: Just read the subsequent posts. Juri isn't some simp. She was a Taekwondo prodigy as a child. The reason she's so dangerous with the FSE is because of her martial arts talent. She'd be a SF level fighter without the FSE.

    I know I actuall waste my time, with translating the dialouges.

    Want some wiki notes instead?

    Juri and Cammy in the VTOL:
    Cammy catches up just as it takes off, and after a brief skirmish, Juri pushes a gurney carrying Juni into Cammy and off the plane.

    In SFIV:
    Dispatched to investigate, Cammy then enters the recently announced S.I.N tournament, where she swears to get revenge on Juri for the dolls who she considers her "sisters." She does encounter Juri again in the tournament and wins the rematch.

    After SFIV (Bison):
    Standing over the helpless Seth, he is suddenly confronted by Juri, whose plan to have the two destroy each other failed, as Seth did not put up enough of a fight. Juri threatens M. Bison, who is unimpressed, and though the resultant fight (if any) is not shown, both seem to survive and are seen later.

    If the encouter happend Bison didn't even get a scratch, he just walks later with Rose out of the ruins.

    Sometimes I'm surprised that people still say Cammy isn't a strong fighter.
    It's just this little things:
    -Cammy shares the same DNA with Bison.
    -Bisons scientists created her. They made adjustmeants Bison wanted.
    -She is unnatural durable. Broken bones heal withing 3 days. ( Viper broke her arm in the first SFIV Ova, the Juri OVA happend ~ 1 week later)
    -She actually has Psycho Power, but isn't able to use it,because of a little gadget inside of her Body.(which can be removed via operation)
    -Is actually immun to damage taken from Psycho Power
    -Rose mistake her once for Bison, because Cammy had the same strong Psycho Power as Bison.
    -Can keep up in terms of speed with both Ibuki and Guy.
    -Is above average smart
    -Her daily training is brutal.
    -defeated Bison in Alpha2(Alpha Bison is stronger compared to SF2 and 4 Bison)



    Yes this actually happend:
    Cammy wins her battle against M. Bison, but is hit by a bolt of electric current and knocked down. Once again she is brainwashed to erase her memories of whatever discovery she made during her journey.

    -And she's able to kick some trough the roof of a train with ease.




    What makes her look weak:
    -She rushes into enemys if she can't see a danger (like Viper in the SFIV OVA,we saw what could happen)
    -Handicaps herself.
    -Takes the security of her friends over her own.
    -Don't want to become her former self again aka Killerbee.


    Now I'm more interested where the Dolls are coming from?
    Bison might have take them back before he defeated Seth. This would also explain why he rather gave Guy Rose back, the Dolls must have been in the VTOL.
    I hope SFV explains this a bit.
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    I don't mean to jump off topic, but I wanted to show everybody why Gouken banned Ryu and Ken from using the Shoryuken.
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  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Eagle will return Joined: Posts: 7,926
    Cipher wrote: »
    -defeated Bison in Alpha2(Alpha Bison is stronger compared to SF2 and 4 Bison)

    Cammy was a secret character in Alpha 2 Gold. I don't think she's meant to be canon in that game. Especially with that ending, which seems like a pretty convenient way to say "Don't worry, none of this matters in A3 guys!"
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    Cipher wrote: »
    -defeated Bison in Alpha2(Alpha Bison is stronger compared to SF2 and 4 Bison)

    Cammy was a secret character in Alpha 2 Gold. I don't think she's meant to be canon in that game. Especially with that ending, which seems like a pretty convenient way to say "Don't worry, none of this matters in A3 guys!"

    Cammy in A2 is canon IMO, just like Ingrid, Eagle, Yun, and Maki are Alpha 3. Her appearance in the game foreshadows what was to come in A3 (The doll program). Her ending isn't farfetched too, Bison likely tested the dolls himself or by someone he trusted to see how lethal they are.

    This doesn't mean that Cammy can take out Bison 1v1 (or literally a whole country), or that she knows how to use Psycho Power, let alone that she is immune to it. No one is immune to Psycho Power, not even Bison himself.
  • YagamiFireYagamiFire Hobby: Resurrection Joined: Posts: 2,953
    Yeah, at best Cammy is just more resistant (or immune) to the deleterious effects to the body of using Psycho Power (at least at the levels Bison uses it anyway)
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  • bakfromonbakfromon True Void Joined: Posts: 2,047
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    Isn't Yun in SFA3 canon a bit too far? His win quotes to some of the characters suggested that he was from actually from the SF3 era and not just a younger incarnation of himself. Unless Ingrid brought him through time with her I wouldn't call his appearance in the Alpha series a canon one, although Cammy in Alpha 2 could be disputed. Her ending mentions "recovered memories", but if she's just a clone of M. Bison then what memories would she have to recover? The Psycho Limiter mentioned could explain why she wouldn't have direct access to Psycho Power like her twin sister. They would've installed it on her not only in fear of her becoming too strong, but as a safe guard from succumbing to Psycho Contamination like Decapre.
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    I think the memories could be of her childhood and the 'training' she went through. It could also be a reference to Cammy's original plot which was that she was kidnapped and brainwashed. The whole 'clone' shtick didn't really come into play until Alpha 3 so much that they had to go back and change the wording of her SF2 ending. This basically means that when they wrote her Alpha 2 ending, she still wasn't a 'clone', hence the 'recovered memories'.

    I also don't think SFA3 Yun is too far considering that SF4's timeline begins 6 months (give or take) after SFA3/SF2. Yun is in SF4 and he was doing fine.
  • Chun-Li_ForeverChun-Li_Forever Chun-Li Fan Forever Joined: Posts: 835
    Interesting quote that I found from Capcom-Unity. Something from the Playstation experience event.
    A Long time Hadoken.net user, Mad_Monkey was present at the event, and according to him Ono San briefly touched on the story mode of Street Fighter V. He first made it clear that he and Capcom are aware of how the series’ fans were frustrated with the Story by the Street Fighter IV series and how it was presented. While promising that things are different this time around, Yoshinori Ono also mentioned that they want the story of Street Fighter V to be told throughout the span of the game’s life cycle, and not a one and done tale.
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    Of course, nothing is concrete. And there is no official reveal that confirms everthing yet. However, Ono said he wanted to do story mode differently from past SF games.
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  • CipherCipher Catchphraser Joined: Posts: 1,817
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    Daemos wrote: »

    Cammy in A2 is canon IMO, just like Ingrid, Eagle, Yun, and Maki are Alpha 3. Her appearance in the game foreshadows what was to come in A3 (The doll program). Her ending isn't farfetched too, Bison likely tested the dolls himself or by someone he trusted to see how lethal they are.

    This doesn't mean that Cammy can take out Bison 1v1 (or literally a whole country), or that she knows how to use Psycho Power, let alone that she is immune to it. No one is immune to Psycho Power, not even Bison himself.


    This is right. Bison deleted her memories about this, she was able to use them in Alpha2, but she was to powerfull even for Bison to handle. She has the Power and was designed to be resistent against damage from it, Bison wanted her to use and she grown up like a normal Human in terms of speed. He doesn't wait 19 years for a Body just to use it 2 years and then lose it again,cause it can't handle the Psycho Power.

    Bisons physical strengh doesn't come from his Psycho Power either , all his bodys are modificated to be stronger,faster and more durable than the ones of normal humans.
    This includes Cammy too.
    Probabaly is SFIV Bison to much, yet she fights barely alone and has either Chun or her Delta-Red teammates as backup, when it comes to stronger opponents.
    Basicly if Cammy enters a tournament her Team is in range to jump in if she has really trouble, but this never happend. They probably helped to hunt Bison after the SF2 finals.

    But discussing who vs who can sometimes go on forever without a result.

    Urien is super strong!!!
    He lost to Ken and Chun in SF3

    Ryu is super strong!!!
    He never won a tournament after SF1, lost in SF2 to Ken, got bodied by Dudley.

    Gill is a god!!!
    And lost to Alex.

    You can now say Juri won in the OVA, but then lost to Cammy in the tournament. This comes with the story and I just collect informations.
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    Yeah but will it be expanded linearly where the roster of Season 1 will tell their story then the roster of Season 2 will continue it like Starcraft campaigns? Or will every season simply add more pieces to the puzzle but all events are happening relatively simultaneously? Does this mean there is a Final Boss or will every season have its own boss?
  • YagamiFireYagamiFire Hobby: Resurrection Joined: Posts: 2,953
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    Cipher wrote: »
    Ryu is super strong!!!
    ...got bodied by Dudley.

    Reality would get bodied by Dudley. He's THAT awesome :grin:
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    YagamiFire wrote: »
    Reality would get bodied by Dudley. He's THAT awesome :grin:

    I'm not a big fan of Dudley.
    But his Mustache is awesome and should become his own movie.
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    Totally missed those winquote. Capcom ar fucking trolls. I don't see Yun and Ingrid's arcade modes being canon at all.
  • Chun-Li_ForeverChun-Li_Forever Chun-Li Fan Forever Joined: Posts: 835
    Daemos wrote: »
    Yeah but will it be expanded linearly where the roster of Season 1 will tell their story then the roster of Season 2 will continue it like Starcraft campaigns? Or will every season simply add more pieces to the puzzle but all events are happening relatively simultaneously? Does this mean there is a Final Boss or will every season have its own boss?

    There are many ways that they can do this. But having the story be updated and expanded is a good way to keep players interested.

    It's interesting to see how they are going to do this. If Each prologue and ending for the characters in SFIV added something to the "story". If the pieces were put together the right way, then you could see exactly how the events of SFIV takes place. And I think that's what SFV is gonna do (without having to play each and every character to find out what happens).I think it's gonna be one linear story with the chance to play through most of the roster. Maybe the possibility of revisiting characters that you played already. (since the game's main characters are Ryu, Ken, and Chun-Li, it wouldn't surprise me if you got to play as them in the story mode multiple times within the course of the overarching story). But with each new season, you add another plot, another piece. Maybe there is a huge plot that must be resolved but at the end of every season, a smaller plot is solved that adds a piece of the solution to the main arc.

    I think each season will have it's own final boss at the end of each but the very last season, there should be the final ultimate boss at the end.

    The one big thing that worries me is how they're gonna animate it, if they chose to do so. An expanded and updated story sounds like a fun idea, but it would be cheap if they decided to take the route of using still images instead of animated sequences.
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    Now that I am over how tacky the Shadaloo stage is (it really looks like Dr. Evil's 'Secret Volcano Lair' or 'Secret Moon Base'), I can see several things:

    - It's actually called 'Lair of the Four Kings'. TACKY!

    - Like someone else pointed it (@bakfromon ?), the screens in the background show significantly less Shadaloo bases in the world since SF4's screens (Seth stage). This could mean that those were SIN bases in SF4, or that Shadaloo is still underground and possibly in decline in SF5. Note that none of the remaining Shadaloo bases are in mainstream spots. All of them are hidden in remote areas of the planet, possibly underground, underwater, or man made islands.

    - The Shadaloo Base is under attack by the Ninjas from the Kanzuki estate. This could be related to Ibuki's clan, Karin's underlings, or even Guy's clan.

    - The hexagonal tile flooring is reminiscent of Seth's stage. This leads me to believe that the Shadaloo stage will have two states, the one we see now and one where it is collapsing into shambles.

    - There is a statue on the far right with 4 Bisons each striking a pose (very Charlie's Angels), is this a reference to cloning or another one of Bison's eccentricities.

    - There is a hooded man that seems to be using Psycho Power. I am not sure if he is doing this naturally or by means of technology (the braces on his wrists). Sometimes he wins the fight and other times he loses. Loser falls into the molten lava (but returns somehow for another round).

    - I noticed this in the Airport stage, but it seems Shadaloo now enjoy the employment of soldiers in flying exosuits.
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    Fang is a fan of experiments, the number 2, and of course, Lord Bison.

    From what little we can see (most of it is blocked from the camera) from his win quotes, he taunts Gief on not being able to beat him with muscles alone, and calls Birdie "the deserter" and presumably tells him to prepare for his execution. He seems a bit overwhelmed by Necalli, saying "What monstrosity!", and the last bit of the quote says "take effect?", which is most likely him wondering how long it'll be for his Poison to take effect or something along those lines.

    I can't wait to read more win quotes from this creep.
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    I don't Know it, and I want to!
    I have loved fighting games all my life (i am 23) but i started trying to "get gud" only recently, so in the past couple of years i have invested a lot of time in a lot of them, but mainly Street fighter (4 and 3S)..
    now that SFV is coming out, i am intending to ride that train all the way from to the start to the very finish, i am not gonna miss the "childhood" of another fighting game if i want to be better, but i have no idea what it's all about, albeit for some vague story lines and plots ..
    the only credible -and awesome- source of info i had was the web series (street fighter assassin's fist) by the forever awesome Joey Ansah, so i was wondering, If i want to catch up with everything that i have missed in the series' story, is there a fun source to know it other than just trying to read a soulless block of text narrating the synopsis? i know there were some animated series along the years, and a God awful movie or two, but is any of them a credible source of info?
  • Chun-Li_ForeverChun-Li_Forever Chun-Li Fan Forever Joined: Posts: 835
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    - Wikipedia
    - Youtube

    Take your pick

    Search Street Fighter Story and enjoy.

    Or do what I (and most people here did) play the games and just enjoy not only the cinematics but the gameplay as well.
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  • mikrosmikros Yo, Joe! Joined: Posts: 1,020
    Take a look at the Street Fighter Plot Guide and stop by the general SF story thread or the SF5 story thread to discuss what's wrong about the guide.
  • bakfromonbakfromon True Void Joined: Posts: 2,047
    edited December 2015
    Handakes wrote: »
    I don't Know it, and I want to!
    I have loved fighting games all my life (i am 23) but i started trying to "get gud" only recently, so in the past couple of years i have invested a lot of time in a lot of them, but mainly Street fighter (4 and 3S)..
    now that SFV is coming out, i am intending to ride that train all the way from to the start to the very finish, i am not gonna miss the "childhood" of another fighting game if i want to be better, but i have no idea what it's all about, albeit for some vague story lines and plots ..
    the only credible -and awesome- source of info i had was the web series (street fighter assassin's fist) by the forever awesome Joey Ansah, so i was wondering, If i want to catch up with everything that i have missed in the series' story, is there a fun source to know it other than just trying to read a soulless block of text narrating the synopsis? i know there were some animated series along the years, and a God awful movie or two, but is any of them a credible source of info?
    If your not trying to read a giant block of text, a couple of fans have compiled detailed videos of some of the canon aspects of Street Fighter.
    In my opinion, the "funnest" sources of canon information I've found are a series of videos done in Mugen that actually play out some of the details in the "Plot Guide".
    I'll provide a link to each of them, but finding answers beyond this requires mostly sifting through boring walls of text, or watching documentary style videos detailing the different stories, quotes, and endings that make up the continuity.
    Series 1
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