The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: A SHADOW FALLS!

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  • javertjavert 'sup Joined: Posts: 1,171
    I would like to believe that Ono and Harada agreed to include a single guest character from the other franchise. Speculating for the sake of it, which would be the best single character from Tekken to make an appearance in SF5? Jun Kazama / Unknown could fit the role.
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 5,746
    Ono can have a guest character from Mortal Kombat in SFV and Harada can have a single guest character from Mortal Kombat in T7 as well. Questions are, who would be in each and why would you choose said character?
  • DaemosDaemos Queen Bitch of the Universe Joined: Posts: 9,389 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    javert wrote: »
    I would like to believe that Ono and Harada agreed to include a single guest character from the other franchise. Speculating for the sake of it, which would be the best single character from Tekken to make an appearance in SF5? Jun Kazama / Unknown could fit the role.

    Capcom already played out their part of the contract. I doubt we will be getting Tekken characters or Tekken story in SF5.
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 25,662
    Main Tekken games have a history of guest characters. Remember Gon from the home port of Tekken 3? I don't think Capcom needs to add a Tekken character for SFV.
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    Hanzo Hasashi or Kuai Liang for T7 or SFV?
  • DaemosDaemos Queen Bitch of the Universe Joined: Posts: 9,389 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Jion_Wansu wrote: »
    Ono can have a guest character from Mortal Kombat in SFV and Harada can have a single guest character from Mortal Kombat in T7 as well. Questions are, who would be in each and why would you choose said character?
    Jion_Wansu wrote: »
    Hanzo Hasashi or Kuai Liang for T7 or SFV?

    This is probably the wrong thread for your enquiries. This thread is more suitable I think.
  • KoumoriKoumori Chun-Li is my waifu Joined: Posts: 283
    edited December 2015
    If Akuma is canon in Tekken, then that means the rest of Street Fighter is right? This whole thing is so bizarre. I wonder what Akuma's debt to her could be.
    javert wrote: »
    I would like to believe that Ono and Harada agreed to include a single guest character from the other franchise. Speculating for the sake of it, which would be the best single character from Tekken to make an appearance in SF5? Jun Kazama / Unknown could fit the role.

    Jin Kazama with Devil Jin V-Trigger. Skip to 10 minutes.

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  • DaemosDaemos Queen Bitch of the Universe Joined: Posts: 9,389 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Koumori wrote: »
    If Akuma is canon in Tekken, then that means the rest of Street Fighter is right? This whole thing is so bizarre. I wonder what Akuma's debt to her could be.

    No. What it means is that in the Tekken universe there is a character called Akuma that resembles the Street Fighter Akuma 98.9% but is not in fact the Street Fighter Akuma because that guy is from another universe.
  • KoumoriKoumori Chun-Li is my waifu Joined: Posts: 283
    It's also possible the universes are being integrated Aliens vs Predator style, just only from the Tekken side of things. It's just as much as a stretch to assume that Akuma exists in Tekken's universe but Gouken, Ryu and other key characters from his history do not. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying we don't know yet, if we ever will. Just him being there is a SGS to Tekken's canon and it's causing all sorts of questions like this to spring up.
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  • DaemosDaemos Queen Bitch of the Universe Joined: Posts: 9,389 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    There is an Alien universe, A Predator Universe, and an AvP universe. Each with their own canon, they are similar but separate.

    SF will always be a stand alone universe, even if it had a Tekken character it is still separate. These cross overs are just business.
  • CipherCipher Catchphraser Joined: Posts: 1,708
    I think,that Akuma is just the final test for TxSF.
    First Eliza in Revolution with her Reppuken.
    Now Akuma in Tekken7.

    They probabaly want feedback, how he plays and if he is overpowerd or not.
    At least Namco gave him a Storyline and didn't put him in without a reason.
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  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 10,021
    edited December 2015
    Daemos wrote: »
    SF3: Most likely Alex, Urien would be my second guess. The SF3:2i tournament wasn't interrupted and was very likely finished to the end. However, most of the SF3 endings are independent of the idea of a tournament set up, which means they do not require the defeat of Gill for them to be true. This means that all SF3 endings likely happened in some capacity and it does not matter who won the tournament. (Source: SF3: 3s endings)
    But who OFFICIALLY defeated Gill at the end of Third Strike? Was he defeated at all? Surely his story arc should've had concluded after 2 games in form of Second Impact and Third Strike?

    SF4: Like SF2/SFA3, the tournament set up likely started to fall apart as things moved towards SIN's base and final event. Most endings in SF4 took place regardless of who actually made it to Seth. If you want a more straightforward answer, then it was Bison who won the tournament because it was he who actually defeated the real Seth. (SF4 epilogues. This 2 part video is very well made and can give you some solid perspective on the otherwise disjointed and occasionally hard to understand SF4 story).
    I think it goes like this:

    1) The Hero Team of Ryu, Sakura, Blanka, Dan, Guile, Chun-Li, and Abel defeat the S.I.N.'s forces and beat Seth, while Ryu and Sakura proceed deep inside the facility to find and destroy the BLECE project's generator, which we see in Ryu's ending, and Guile, Abel and Chun-Li backup the project's data (so I suppose Cammy destroying the data and Vega getting his own backup happened somewhere inbetween?)

    2) Bison and Juri arrive at the location, knowing that Seth is defeated and he is an easy prey for both of them to kill the bastard. Bison arrives first, assembles the Seth clones, surrounds Seth and finishes him. Juri comes next to meet Bison, which of course further sets their rivalry

    3) Rolento and his forces arrive at the location of completely destroyed base to search and assert some of the technologies and weaponry S.I.N. might have left behind or the heroes haven't damaged (then we see the mysterious red camera lens moving, so maybe one of the Seth's clones is alive or Seth himself managed to escape? Or it was the Illuminati?)

    4) Zangief arrives at the location the last or somewhere inbetween the previous events, only to find Seth's dead body, after which he makes a picture of himself, which then gets posted in the news articles all around the world, which we then see in his ending (I suppose this also leads into SFV as Mika sees this great wrestler and embraces the sport, which I guess reintroduces and/or retcons the Alpha 3 arc for both Karin AND Mika once again?)

    This leads me to believe that Sagat's, Fei Long's, and Dhalsim's endings don't involve them ever interacting with Seth himself entirely, or they would have to be among the Hero Team from 1), which would lead me to believe that Fei followed Abel after their Rival Battle, and Sagat followed Ryu after their Rival Battle, and Dhalsim went straight to the base to save his people and give them pure water again

    What I don't understand though is where are Ken, Honda, Makoto, Yun, Yang, and Balrog in all of this.

    Balrog I guess must've slipped in along with Bison or with Vega?

    Also when did Rose's and Guy's endings happen then? Having Rose meeting Bison means that she either was with the Hero Team too or went in ahead of everybody, only to get rekt and her memories/psycho power taken back by Bison

    Guy's ending certainly happens after Rose's, since he'd have to save Rose from being captive by Bison, which should've happened after Rose's ending.

    And I guess somewhere between meeting Rose, Abel, and killing Seth, Bison also met Cammy and took Decapre from her







    (Jesus christ, SF4's endings timeline is so fucked up)
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    Daemos wrote: »
    There is an Alien universe, A Predator Universe, and an AvP universe. Each with their own canon, they are similar but separate.

    A xenomorph was in Predator 2, though, but I see your point.
    SF will always be a stand alone universe, even if it had a Tekken character it is still separate. These cross overs are just business.

    It would be "just business" if Akuma was just a guest character, but now he's part of the storyline, which makes it more complicated than that. Also, I was suggesting that Street Fighter had become a part of Tekken's universe, not necessarily the other way around, if I'm making sense.
    Jesus christ, SF's endings timeline is so fucked up

    It really is like a big jigsaw puzzle, only we're not sure if all the pieces fit together.

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  • bakfromonbakfromon True Void Joined: Posts: 1,969
    edited December 2015
    Koumori wrote: »
    It's also possible the universes are being integrated Aliens vs Predator style, just only from the Tekken side of things. It's just as much as a stretch to assume that Akuma exists in Tekken's universe but Gouken, Ryu and other key characters from his history do not. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying we don't know yet, if we ever will. Just him being there is a SGS to Tekken's canon and it's causing all sorts of questions like this to spring up.
    The way I see it, Akuma being in Tekken will be similar to how Sakura is in both Street Fighter and Rival Schools canon. Rival Schools isn't a part of the SF canon like Muscle Bomber or Final Fight. Sakura was not only a guest character for RS, but she also had an established backstory with the characters Hinata and Natsu, and a different blood type which effectively makes her a "different" Sakura. The only difference with Akuma being in Tekken, as opposed to Sakura in RS, is that Akuma will play an active role within the main story and is not a side character.
    Cipher wrote: »
    I think,that Akuma is just the final test for TxSF.
    First Eliza in Revolution with her Reppuken.
    Now Akuma in Tekken7.

    They probabaly want feedback, how he plays and if he is overpowerd or not.
    At least Namco gave him a Storyline and didn't put him in without a reason.

    For a second when I read this I pictured Ken Masters wife Eliza using the Reppuken.
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  • EternalEternal unpleasable perfectionist Joined: Posts: 12,436
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    Within the Alien/Predator/Prometheus universe is considered a shared universe though AvP itself is considered non-canon. The movies were considered all canon together until Prometheus. It could be sort of like having Tekken/Street Fighter be part of a shared universe but Street Fighter X Tekken is non-canon.

    http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/aliens-predators-engineers-dark-horses-shared-comics-continuity.html

    As for this:
    Daemos wrote: »
    javert wrote: »
    I would like to believe that Ono and Harada agreed to include a single guest character from the other franchise. Speculating for the sake of it, which would be the best single character from Tekken to make an appearance in SF5? Jun Kazama / Unknown could fit the role.

    Capcom already played out their part of the contract. I doubt we will be getting Tekken characters or Tekken story in SF5.

    Ono and Harada are incredibly good friends (Ono carried his wife's dress train at Harada's wedding) and Capcom has a very close working relationship with Namco. We also don't know how deep the contract goes and what it entirely entailed or how long it lasts. There is no reason to assume that another contract couldn't be quickly written up to boot.
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    Eternal wrote: »
    Within the Alien/Predator/Prometheus universe is considered a shared universe though AvP itself is considered non-canon. The movies were considered all canon together until Prometheus. It could be sort of like having Tekken/Street Fighter be part of a shared universe but Street Fighter X Tekken is non-canon.

    http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/aliens-predators-engineers-dark-horses-shared-comics-continuity.html

    As for this:
    Daemos wrote: »
    javert wrote: »
    I would like to believe that Ono and Harada agreed to include a single guest character from the other franchise. Speculating for the sake of it, which would be the best single character from Tekken to make an appearance in SF5? Jun Kazama / Unknown could fit the role.

    Capcom already played out their part of the contract. I doubt we will be getting Tekken characters or Tekken story in SF5.

    Ono and Harada are incredibly good friends (Ono carried his wife's dress train at Harada's wedding) and Capcom has a very close working relationship with Namco. We also don't know how deep the contract goes and what it entirely entailed or how long it lasts. There is no reason to assume that another contract couldn't be quickly written up to boot.

    So yeah...

    Street Fighter IV happens
    then Ingrid comes from space with sparkles and shit
    creates an alternate universe
    Street Fighter X Tekken happens
    Ryu and Ken reach the Pandora's Box at the end of the game
    Ryu gets teleported away
    He reaches the Asura's Wrath's universe
    Ryu fights Asura
    Akuma comes in somehow
    He kicks Ryu so hard he teleports back
    But instead of going to SFxT universe, Ryu comes in Smash Bros
    then Akuma and Asura fight
    After the fight, Asura does something with Akuma
    Akuma gets sent to Tekken universe

    And now we have a Street Fighter universe, where everything is normal, a Street Fighter X Tekken universe, where both Ryu and Akuma are now missing, the Smash Bros universe, where the SFxT Ryu resides, and the Tekken universe, where the SFxT Akuma now resides

    IT ALL MAKES SENSE

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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 25,662
    Akuma and Asura turned to stone at the end of the DLC. When did Asura have the time to sent Akuma away?
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  • bakfromonbakfromon True Void Joined: Posts: 1,969
    edited December 2015
    Eternal wrote: »
    Within the Alien/Predator/Prometheus universe is considered a shared universe though AvP itself is considered non-canon. The movies were considered all canon together until Prometheus. It could be sort of like having Tekken/Street Fighter be part of a shared universe but Street Fighter X Tekken is non-canon.

    http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/aliens-predators-engineers-dark-horses-shared-comics-continuity.html

    As for this:
    Daemos wrote: »
    javert wrote: »
    I would like to believe that Ono and Harada agreed to include a single guest character from the other franchise. Speculating for the sake of it, which would be the best single character from Tekken to make an appearance in SF5? Jun Kazama / Unknown could fit the role.

    Capcom already played out their part of the contract. I doubt we will be getting Tekken characters or Tekken story in SF5.

    Ono and Harada are incredibly good friends (Ono carried his wife's dress train at Harada's wedding) and Capcom has a very close working relationship with Namco. We also don't know how deep the contract goes and what it entirely entailed or how long it lasts. There is no reason to assume that another contract couldn't be quickly written up to boot.

    So yeah...

    Street Fighter IV happens
    then Ingrid comes from space with sparkles and shit
    creates an alternate universe
    Street Fighter X Tekken happens
    Ryu and Ken reach the Pandora's Box at the end of the game
    Ryu gets teleported away
    He reaches the Asura's Wrath's universe
    Ryu fights Asura
    Akuma comes in somehow
    He kicks Ryu so hard he teleports back
    But instead of going to SFxT universe, Ryu comes in Smash Bros
    then Akuma and Asura fight
    After the fight, Asura does something with Akuma
    Akuma gets sent to Tekken universe

    And now we have a Street Fighter universe, where everything is normal, a Street Fighter X Tekken universe, where both Ryu and Akuma are now missing, the Smash Bros universe, where the SFxT Ryu resides, and the Tekken universe, where the SFxT Akuma now resides

    IT ALL MAKES SENSE

    :rofl: I actually had this same idea running through my head the other day. I thought it was too convoluted and complex so I decided not to post it.
    Akuma and Asura turned to stone at the end of the DLC. When did Asura have the time to sent Akuma away?

    Well they were about to break out of the stone to deliver the final blow just before the DLC ended. I'm thinking this debt Akuma owes Kazumi in Tekken is for saving him from having to fight Asura for another 500 years.
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    OH RIGHT - I forgot to add: At the end of Asura vs Akuma fight, before Asura strikes the final blow to defeat Akuma, Kazumi summons a "Devil" to kill Heihachi and Kazuya, and Akuma appears in the Tekken universe, thus Akuma being in Kazumi's debt which he shall repay by stopping Hei and Kaz from destryoing the world

    And kicking Jin's, Lars' and Lei's asses on the way
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    by the way @bakfromon @Daemos @Shockdingo @Eternal would you guys like to comment on http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/comment/10507377/#Comment_10507377 ?

    Maybe help figure out the correct chain of events
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    i know this may be the last beta test before the release of SFV (not counting maybe a couple more stress tests in between). But part of me wanted to have a very small taste of story mode in the next beta. Like how it was done during tutorial mode, but smaller: Show the opening cutscene to set up the plot, then you can play one or two matches, and then end with the Opening cinematic or a "to be continued on SFV, coming soon" text. I know how capcom wants their main focused to be online play during the beta tests. But i think the betas would be a good opportunity to preview their other features.
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    by the way @bakfromon @Daemos @Shockdingo @Eternal would you guys like to comment on http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/comment/10507377/#Comment_10507377 ?

    Maybe help figure out the correct chain of events
    :coffee:

    Jesus christ, SF's endings timeline is so fucked up
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    Did they reveal which country the new characters are officially from. Laura is obvious, but what about the other three?
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    Did they reveal which country the new characters are officially from. Laura is obvious, but what about the other three?

    Rashid is from the United Arab Emirates. FANG is likely Chinese (Guessing Hong Kong since every Chinese character expect Chun hails from there). If Necalli is Aztec then he hails from what's currently Mexico.
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    Excluding Laura, none of the newcomers are actually given an official birthplace. We can assume that Rashid is from Dubai given his design, and the fact the city skyline appears in his character art. We can assume Necalli is from Mexico given his name meaning in the Aztec language. We can even venture to say Fang is Chinese, but we haven't gotten any official birthplace for any of them. The only hints we get for a cultural background are the characters design.
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    I forget who I was arguing with, but I told him that Sagat was not part of Shadoloo and he basically flipped out and got very angry.

    I think Sagat will be in the game but yeah, it's cool to see SFA2's endings canonized and it's nice to see SFA2 links to story in the game!

    Now if I'm right about Seth being a failed precursor to Urien and Gill I'll be 2 for 2!
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    by the way @bakfromon @Daemos @Shockdingo @Eternal would you guys like to comment on http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/comment/10507377/#Comment_10507377 ?

    Maybe help figure out the correct chain of events

    I've been a bit spotty on the SF4 events myself, but I'll agree with your points. Rose-Guy's endings are kind of confusing to place. If Bison's taking her to his VTOL, and then leaves after Guy's threat, is this somehow after the Juri confrontation, or is he heading there? With 'Rog, I'm guessing that as soon as crap started to come down, he could have snuck the kid out with all the carnage. As for the others you listed? I'm stumped too.
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    Orrr Akuma in Tekken is just a non-canon side-story... Like Darth Vader in SC4, or Lars in Naruto. Hell, Devil Jin is more of a "What if" in some of the games.
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  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Remember me now, Yipes? Joined: Posts: 7,488
    I think if we get Sakura, they're going to borrow heavily from the Sakura Ganbaru manga: http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Sakura_Ganbaru
    Which is interesting, because it introduced Karin and precedes CvS2 Maki. I think Capcom has basically adopted this into the Street Fighter canon. So, we may finally see PE teacher Sakura after all.
  • bakfromonbakfromon True Void Joined: Posts: 1,969
    If anything they should borrow the mannerisms and characteristics that were given to Karin in her manga appearance and apply them to her SFV story.
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  • LOVECYCLONELOVECYCLONE Joined: Posts: 166
    edited December 2015
    Found it. This is Sagat's ZERO2 ending. I hope someone has a good knowledge of the Japanese language so we can understand if there's a conceptual difference with the occidental version. It starts at minute 2:40.
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  • ParryAllParryAll Dangerous Posts Joined: Posts: 3,311
    There is definitely no difference. Maybe some minor thing, but the main story is that Sagat found his way and fights for honor not Shadoloo. He joined Shadowloo because of his rage and to find Ryu. Sagat is not a bad guy or a Shadowloo goon and I hope this is explored furher in V.

    Considering how I nailed that I fully believe that there is a decent chance I'm right about Seth being a precursor to Urien/Gill and that was either the point from the beginning or will be worked into 5 somehow. Or who knows I could be wrong and Seth is just never mentioned again.

    I also think either Charlie or Guile should be Remys dad but that's just wild guessing. Makes sense considering his age and not having a father growing up would certainly lead to a broken character (besides of cours what happened to his sister).
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  • Doctrine DarkDoctrine Dark Giving your waifu the pipeu Joined: Posts: 6,796
    Yeah, Sagat was just confused and blind with rage after losing to Ryu. I always liked the idea of Sagat and Ryu's Alpha 2 fight in the rainy grassfield being canon. I know Sagat eventually realized that getting revenge wasn't the answer, but I liked the idea of Sagat beating Ryu before realizing this.

    While I think he would've eventually left Shadaloo regardless, it seems like Bison brainwashing of Ryu really pissed Sagat off. Sagat always thought Bison was going to help him find Ryu, but he never thought he'd have to stoop so low just to reward him with a rematch. Speaking of Bison, when going by his win quotes, it almost makes it seem as if he never respected Sagat. His SSF4 win quote has him saying Sagat was always a "loser" and that he'll be one forever. That's disrespectful.
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    Yeah, Sagat was just confused and blind with rage after losing to Ryu. I always liked the idea of Sagat and Ryu's Alpha 2 fight in the rainy grassfield being canon. I know Sagat eventually realized that getting revenge wasn't the answer, but I liked the idea of Sagat beating Ryu before realizing this.

    While I think he would've eventually left Shadaloo regardless, it seems like Bison brainwashing of Ryu really pissed Sagat off. Sagat always thought Bison was going to help him find Ryu, but he never thought he'd have to stoop so low just to reward him with a rematch. Speaking of Bison, when going by his win quotes, it almost makes it seem as if he never respected Sagat. His SSF4 win quote has him saying Sagat was always a "loser" and that he'll be one forever. That's disrespectful.

    Bison and respect?
    He respects nothing. You could kill him, the moment he appears with a new Body he will laugh at you again.
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  • bakfromonbakfromon True Void Joined: Posts: 1,969
    edited December 2015
    There were some instances of story differences between SFZ2 and SFA2, but as far as I know this only happened in Evil Ryu's case. E. Ryu's SFA2 rival interactions and ending are just rehashes of Ryu's. The Japanese version of SFZ2 features original dialogue for E. Ryu's rival matches, and a separate ending that's akin to his SFA3/Z3 ending.
    Barring this example, I don't know of any conceptual differences between the Zero 2/ Alpha 2 scripts for any of the other characters endings.
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  • Doctrine DarkDoctrine Dark Giving your waifu the pipeu Joined: Posts: 6,796
    I had no idea Evil Ryu had unique dialogue in Zero 2. That's really interesting. Wonder what he said.
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  • DelayedWakeUpDelayedWakeUp Realest Nigga Joined: Posts: 117
    I think the sfv story is about m.boson and friends hold a tournament and they also enter the tournament, and the winner of the tournament gets to run the next tournament or something
    d3v wrote: »
    Well the primary goal when you engage in a footsies battle is to out space your opponent to create an error so you can punish in a way that allows you to continue to press the advantage. Common examples are whiff punish into knockdown for follow up pressure or mix up, whiff punish into super for high damage while also potentially getting pressure and or mix up afterwards as well.
    False.

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    ParryAll wrote: »
    Sagat is not a bad guy

    What does Dan think?
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  • ParryAllParryAll Dangerous Posts Joined: Posts: 3,311
    ParryAll wrote: »
    Sagat is not a bad guy

    What does Dan think?

    Hah.

    You know what would be a sick redesign. Drop the eye patch. Give Sagat an actual eye color and have the other eye just white. New digs as well. New attitude. Still a badass but in a more noble/Ryu esque way.

    Or *gasps* HAIR. Long hair even.
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    Didn't his get torn out by Dan's dad? Dropping the eye patch isn't something he can do.
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  • ParryAllParryAll Dangerous Posts Joined: Posts: 3,311
    edited December 2015
    How is anything from Street Fighter Zero/Alpha 3 canon at all?

    Charlie is alive/fine. He shoots Vega with his jets machine gun or drops bombs on him. Every other ending is a ridiculous remix of that, super lazy/CPS2 is out of memory.
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