Rikidozan, post: 1389596 wrote:
It's definitely _NOT_ j. d+fierce. He hits with an animation similar to the Condor Dive, look closely. (04:11)
If it was j. d+fierce his body would be horizontal
Master Chibi wrote: »
Whiff your entire SOUL into c.MK in 3S.
BKB, post: 1389580 wrote:
try close s.mp aginst vega walldive and shoto air hurricanes!
In the right situations that thing is golden.
Kyokuji, post: 1389590 wrote:
I can't really find a good reason to use N. Hawk anymore. Just going back and forth, there's a huge difference in my ability to DP people out of shit with O. Hawk. I have a feeling that's why he was raised so much higher on Gian's tier list -- because it's wayyy easier getting knockdowns with O. Hawk, and his normals out prioritize stuff left and right. N. Hawk's super isn't even all that great. By the time you get enough meter, it's usually overkill.
You can DP through fireballs a lot more consistently with O. Hawk as well, which means less time being somebody's zoning bitch.
gridman, post: 1389603 wrote:
against vega walldives, best is to jump back jab. beats it EASY
also, people seem to not believe me: o.hawk vs chun, chun cant do ANYTHING against o.hawks splash. she can jump straight up lk to TRADE, but thats all ive seen. She can try and get lucky with an air throw (its honestly happened maybe twice out of all the chuns ive played and it seems random.) other than that, upkicks get stuffed, flipkick gets stuffed, all jumpins and normals get stuffed. I dunno what she can do but whenever I play against any chun, i just use o.hawks splash over and over. It sounds scrubby, but she really cannot do a thing against it.
gridman, post: 1389607 wrote:
Alright good, im not crazy then. I knew she couldnt do shit against it, i just wanted to make sure.
Why do i have more trouble with guile then I do with honda, dictator, or fucking even vega?
djfrijoles, post: 1389615 wrote:
I swear sometimes that it feels like Hawks DP randomly gets stored. I'll bet it's happened to a couple of the hard core Hawks out there too. Not to many active Hawks but can I get a post or to if it's happened to any of you befor ?
Rikidozan, post: 1389617 wrote:
I'm beginning to use N.Hawk alot, not that he is that different from O.Hawk - but it's always nice being able to soften throws, especially vs. Chun and Dictator. I feel like N.Hawk's Rising Hawk is stored at times, especially when I want to do cr. short xx SUPER.
Sanjuro_The_Ronin, post: 1389619 wrote:
Is it just me or is it easier to negative edge Hawks 720 then his 360?
Eclipsing Binary, post: 1389608 wrote:
I think I've seen Chun-Li use her close st. MK to stuff the splash. (Or maybe it was some other kick. It's the one where she kicks really high, so it looks like she's almost kneeing herself in the face.) Is this a possible solution to the splash spam, or is it too situational?
MasterFiends, post: 1389623 wrote:
MasterFiends, post: 1389627 wrote:
Rikidozan, post: 1389626 wrote:
Even though HD Remix is out, I'm not into R.Hawk at all. Still playing ST.
Why did they decide to nerf N.Hawk that much? I'm really curious, is O.Hawk really that beastly? Yeah I've compared them in training mode and O.Hawk is N.Hawk on steroids, but does it really justify removing all that goodness when he departed from Super to ST? I thought it was a little too rough.....
MasterFiends, post: 1389629 wrote:
Off the top of my head if he was allowed to keep O.Hawk's st.MP, st.RH, body splash, cr.LP, LP, better DP, cr.MK and cr.RH while retaining N.Hawk's ability to tech throw and super. Then he would automatically for me be in the upper tier list with Ryu, Chun and Deejay, top tier belonging to O.Sagat, Dhalsim, Boxer and Claw.
However adding the very abuseable throw loops and the above properties he would seriously be a very nasty character to contend with, which is why i think N.Hawk is somewhat justified.
Remixed Hawk is retarded, ST hawk players put in all this hard work and now bums can walk in Typhoon, stand super and hawk dive with less thinking.
Honestly whenever I play Remixed Hawk I feel my real Hawk skills getting shitter, plus I hate the whiff animation on the Typhoon, i feel it happens at random times when I should have guaranteed throw.
HD remix doesn't come close to classic super turbo.
MasterFiends, post: 1389629 wrote:
ST hawk players put in all this hard work and now bums can walk in Typhoon, stand super and hawk dive
Sanjuro_The_Ronin, post: 1389630 wrote:
Its because Sirlin never actually played a really good Hawk player (aka any japanese Hawk player). All he has is theories about Hawk, hence why HDR Hawk is the way he is.
Rikidozan, post: 1389635 wrote:
How come Zangief is ranked higher than T.Hawk is, tier-wise? I don't understand why they rank Zangief higher than T.Hawk, any ideas?