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  • ES_CurseES_Curse PRAISE BE Joined: Posts: 8,193
    BR3N7 wrote: »
    Well honestly we don't all lose and maybe people like @dodgers2213 / @just5moreminutes who are self admitted racist white supremacist might be the winners.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but while I can see if you twist the facts enough, you can theoretically argue that repealing the Johnson Amendment could "allow churches to be a SuperPAC" or some other fearmongering, that's not exactly what it does.

    From what I understand, the Johnson Amendment bars any nonprofit organization with a 501c3 tax exemption from endorsing or opposing a political candidate. While various religious organizations fall under this umbrella, so do a shitload of other nonprofit organizations, including shit like the New York Academy of Sciences, the Oceanic Preservation Society, the California Native Plant Society, the Mozilla Foundation, Kars4Kids (though god help me if this somehow causes them to increase their commercial appearances), Freedom to Marry, etc.

    Repealing that... doesn't sound all that bad when you start looking into it. At least, not to me.
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    edited February 2
    MochaLatte wrote: »
    Accurate depiction of arguments with Liberals

    Put on the glasses!
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    Some good stuff Shin, but do you really expect everyone here to:
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    Narcissism big enough to rival Trump :rofl:
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    How many times have reporters been denied questions? All the fucking time. You're not entitled to first question.

    Now that "Univsion? LOL" remark. Yeah, that's pretty hilarious. :rofl:

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  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    dab00g wrote: »
    Oh okay you are vehemently anti-union

    I get it. But tell me why she would be a good pick. I don't see how she could benefit children when she sees special education as optional

    We can all agree common core sucks as does over valuing of standardized tests.

    Public school worked for me. It has worked for many people. It has worked for top politicians.

    But really when it comes down to it, public school really benefits the kids

    In the third worlds, like the Philippines a lot kids have to choose between work or school. They want to have "enough" to go to school. School is a luxury to the poor, uneducated, and most of then grew up with generations of slums behind then to reinforce that.

    They have public schools there, but it is seen once again as a luxury.

    I don't want school here to be seen as a luxury. I like stories of kids who rose up from the slums to be contributing members of society.

    When i see kids disappointed they don't get to go to the nice school it is weird. You watch waiting for superman, and it makes me wonder why that other school is shit and why isn't more funding being funneled to the actual schools

    I see a special on pbs about cambodians in long beach not finishing high school and doing drugs, joining gangs, getting pregnant. And sure you see some teachers who attempt to reach kids. But that place is toxic. It sucks. Will at risk areas really be cleaned up or will this cost cutting, bare bones, effort still be put into schools.

    Why does the shitty neighborhood have the shitty school? Why does that neighborhood have to even be shitty.

    Here comes gentrification, where do these people go now that they can't afford to live there?

    But maybe that's just the way of the world

    All i know is that from what i have read, from her confirmation hearing, and from the senate at a split she is definitely the wrong choice

    maybe school should be considered a luxury so ass hats here in the states can do better. Only in America do kids have the luxury to take school as a joke. Being porn to poor parents, one of them from a dirt ranch in the middle of Mexico, and the other one lived on a staple of spam and beans (sometimes with worms on them), I understand and acknowledge that school is a luxury. They where sure to reinforce the idea that education is a luxury afforded to me only because of where I live. If I didn't choose wisely and take school seriously, I would end up working like an animal with long hours and little pay like them. One of the only real ways to motivate people to actually apply themselves in school, is by making school a luxury and forcing kids to live the life a 3rd worlder. Or are you forgetting what your stay in public education was like? You don't remember the the majority of people that would do the bare minimum, or purposely tank shit becasue they knew they would just make it? Majority of students are people like my brother who take it lightly and just do it because he thinks he can afford to do the bare minimum.

    People in this country are unmotivated because they don't know what it means to have no way out, they don't know what it means that no matter how hard you try, you are more than likely going to stay in a shithole dirt farm in the middle of no where Mexico. That's the fucking luxury that kids here have, and its that becuase school isn't seen as a luxury.

    Also, as you said, those cambodians did drugs, joined gangs, and decided to get pregnant. They choose to do that, that's on them and no amount of money was going to fix or prevent that. Popular culture has the largest impact on the development of kids, and when the most popular trends promote drugs, money, and sex, then you are going to see the problems you see. It's not a question of money, its a question of people. My youngest brother goes to one of the best funded high schools in long beach, and those shit for brains he has to consider peers are still willingly engaging in degenerate and self destructive behavior. Whose fault is that? The school's because it doesn't have enough money? NOpe, that school has more than enough money, and it just goes to show how money is no where near an adaquate solution.

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    I been called a white supremacist, nazi, privileged, and sexist more times in 6 months than the previous 27 years of my life--which was zero times. Feels bad man

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    PVL_93_RU wrote: »

    We North Korea now.
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,303
    Was he shot?

    No? Not North Korea, then, more like The Phillipines.
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    I thought "Using speech to marginalized communities and promote bigotry". You posted it in your last post. Stupid shit gets pounced. What's the issue?
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    "I was walking home and decided to not get shot at by a Muslim by not interfering and if people want to keep enriching the US with diversity then that's their decision. Also, she was already getting raped. Me interfering would have most likely resulted in the Muslim dude getting killed and then the media picking it up as a hate crime. I just kept walking and I think I made the right choice." - ElderGod http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/208447/the-american-government-thread-youre-fired-no-really-gtfo/p424
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    edited February 3
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  • FemtoFemto Joined: Posts: 4,780
    edited February 3
    CNN ran a almost-too-similar piece on Milo speech protests like the Seattle Times

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/opinions/protesters-miss-point-yiannopoulos-herbst-gelman/index.html

    I'll copy and paste later. Gotta run.

    Article

    Milo Yiannopoulos, an editor at Breitbart, has single-handedly caused another free speech crisis on campus. Yiannopoulos -- who was permanently banned from Twitter in July for his racist trolling -- has achieved a level of fame (infamy) for his indictments of political correctness, criticism of feminism (he calls it a "cancer"), and his comparison of the head of Planned Parenthood to "Hitler."
    As part of his "Dangerous I love My Little Pony so much it hurts" tour, Yiannopoulos is visiting college campuses across the country. Wednesday night, his talk at the University of California, Berkeley, the home of the free speech movement in the 1960s, was canceled because of protesters brandishing bricks and setting fires. His talks have also been canceled at universities including North Dakota State University, Iowa State University, the University of Maryland, Florida Atlantic University and the University of California, Davis.
    Elsewhere, he has been allowed to talk, often in the face of protesters who wanted to shut him down.


    But the protesters, whose actions led to the cancellation of his talk at Berkeley and elsewhere, have done a disservice to the First Amendment.
    As numerous college presidents have noted while defending their decisions to allow him to speak in the face of protests, freedom of speech applies to those whose rhetoric many find distasteful. Indeed, hate speech, except under very narrow exceptions -- such as direct encouragement to others to immediately commit violence -- is protected speech in the United States.
    The First Amendment is truly tested not when mainstream speech is routinely expressed, but when those at the margin seek to express their views. These days, we are often failing that test.

    The fact that the violence at Berkeley caused windows to be broken at the Martin Luther King Jr. Student Union is a vivid and sad symbol of how much respect for the First Amendment has declined in the United States. Part of King's genius was the realization that the five freedoms of the First Amendment provided the civil rights movement with the avenue to attempt to achieve full equality in our country.
    That a building named for the great orator has been vandalized to prevent speech should be an indication that we have a serious problem on some college campuses -- and across the country.
    In a hyper politicized country, it may not matter to a protester, convinced of the absolute evil of Yiannopoulos, that violating the very precepts that allow their campuses to function -- and to be the envy of the world -- is wrong. What should matter to them is that they are acting exactly according to Yiannopoulos's playbook. Although he decries the culture of victimhood, being a victim is likely exactly what Yiannopoulos wants.
    Yiannopoulos, who happens to have a book about to be published, is on top of the news coverage, trending on Google and orders of advanced copies of his book are making it one of the top sellers on Amazon.
    Why not let Yiannopoulos talk? The attempts to silence him actually gave him and his allies a megaphone that otherwise would not have existed. For every scowl cast on Yiannopoulos's promotion of the "Privilege Grant," which offers stipends to help pay for the education of white males attending college, he no doubt responds with a gleeful smirk.


    Indeed, President Donald Trump was quick to tweet in favor of Yiannopoulos, while criticizing Berkeley. Perhaps it does not matter to the protesters, but they have created a situation where President Trump is a stronger proponent of the First Amendment than many who claim that he is a danger to society. As a result, they are hurting no one's cause but their own.

    There is always a next act, and many are watching the "Dangerous I love My Little Pony so much it hurts" tour to learn how best to get clicks, page hits and a little fame in our society. What they will learn is that outrageous rhetoric from the margins is rewarded with the kind of attention that many crave.
    It would be better to let Yiannopoulos speak, calmly explain why he should not be listened to, and watch as his fame dims. The power to starve him and those like him of the oxygen of outrage is far more powerful, and keeping with our foundational rights, than the stones thrown at Berkeley.


    EDIT: Copy Pasted article for those that don't want to give CNN clicks.
    Post edited by Femto on
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    "I was walking home and decided to not get shot at by a Muslim by not interfering and if people want to keep enriching the US with diversity then that's their decision. Also, she was already getting raped. Me interfering would have most likely resulted in the Muslim dude getting killed and then the media picking it up as a hate crime. I just kept walking and I think I made the right choice." - ElderGod http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/208447/the-american-government-thread-youre-fired-no-really-gtfo/p424
  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,303
    Calmly explaining why he shouldn't be listened to, never stopped him.

    Nevertheless CNN is right that Trump supports the First Amendment more than Berkeley.
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  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    dab00g wrote: »
    Oh okay you are vehemently anti-union

    I get it. But tell me why she would be a good pick. I don't see how she could benefit children when she sees special education as optional

    We can all agree common core sucks as does over valuing of standardized tests.

    Public school worked for me. It has worked for many people. It has worked for top politicians.

    But really when it comes down to it, public school really benefits the kids

    In the third worlds, like the Philippines a lot kids have to choose between work or school. They want to have "enough" to go to school. School is a luxury to the poor, uneducated, and most of then grew up with generations of slums behind then to reinforce that.

    They have public schools there, but it is seen once again as a luxury.

    I don't want school here to be seen as a luxury. I like stories of kids who rose up from the slums to be contributing members of society.

    When i see kids disappointed they don't get to go to the nice school it is weird. You watch waiting for superman, and it makes me wonder why that other school is shit and why isn't more funding being funneled to the actual schools

    I see a special on pbs about cambodians in long beach not finishing high school and doing drugs, joining gangs, getting pregnant. And sure you see some teachers who attempt to reach kids. But that place is toxic. It sucks. Will at risk areas really be cleaned up or will this cost cutting, bare bones, effort still be put into schools.

    Why does the shitty neighborhood have the shitty school? Why does that neighborhood have to even be shitty.

    Here comes gentrification, where do these people go now that they can't afford to live there?

    But maybe that's just the way of the world

    All i know is that from what i have read, from her confirmation hearing, and from the senate at a split she is definitely the wrong choice

    maybe school should be considered a luxury so ass hats here in the states can do better. Only in America do kids have the luxury to take school as a joke. Being porn to poor parents, one of them from a dirt ranch in the middle of Mexico, and the other one lived on a staple of spam and beans (sometimes with worms on them), I understand and acknowledge that school is a luxury. They where sure to reinforce the idea that education is a luxury afforded to me only because of where I live. If I didn't choose wisely and take school seriously, I would end up working like an animal with long hours and little pay like them. One of the only real ways to motivate people to actually apply themselves in school, is by making school a luxury and forcing kids to live the life a 3rd worlder. Or are you forgetting what your stay in public education was like? You don't remember the the majority of people that would do the bare minimum, or purposely tank shit becasue they knew they would just make it? Majority of students are people like my brother who take it lightly and just do it because he thinks he can afford to do the bare minimum.

    People in this country are unmotivated because they don't know what it means to have no way out, they don't know what it means that no matter how hard you try, you are more than likely going to stay in a shithole dirt farm in the middle of no where Mexico. That's the fucking luxury that kids here have, and its that becuase school isn't seen as a luxury.

    Also, as you said, those cambodians did drugs, joined gangs, and decided to get pregnant. They choose to do that, that's on them and no amount of money was going to fix or prevent that. Popular culture has the largest impact on the development of kids, and when the most popular trends promote drugs, money, and sex, then you are going to see the problems you see. It's not a question of money, its a question of people. My youngest brother goes to one of the best funded high schools in long beach, and those shit for brains he has to consider peers are still willingly engaging in degenerate and self destructive behavior. Whose fault is that? The school's because it doesn't have enough money? NOpe, that school has more than enough money, and it just goes to show how money is no where near an adaquate solution.
    This is the dumbest shit I've ever read, sorry. Instead of this garbage how about we fix the sad state education is in and give kids a reason to actually fucking care. I dropped out of HS because no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get out of the remedial classes even tho I passed them andtested out of those classes. At that point why should I or anyone else actually give a fuck? kids don't care about school because the school's have shown they don't care about the kids, just numbers and bottom lines.

    Go back to making wax an shit, every time you talk about schooling it's painful. "Let's teach kids the importance of school by not letting them go instead of giving them a reason to care." Fuck that is so stupid.

    struggle breads greatness.

    American kids are entitled and lazy as shit. Look at third world foreigners who focus on career's that make money and secure a life for them. And then you have kids in the states pursuing meme degree's. A kid's job is to go to school and do well, not to have their hands held or be entertained.
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  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,896
    edited February 3
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    dab00g wrote: »
    Oh okay you are vehemently anti-union

    I get it. But tell me why she would be a good pick. I don't see how she could benefit children when she sees special education as optional

    We can all agree common core sucks as does over valuing of standardized tests.

    Public school worked for me. It has worked for many people. It has worked for top politicians.

    But really when it comes down to it, public school really benefits the kids

    In the third worlds, like the Philippines a lot kids have to choose between work or school. They want to have "enough" to go to school. School is a luxury to the poor, uneducated, and most of then grew up with generations of slums behind then to reinforce that.

    They have public schools there, but it is seen once again as a luxury.

    I don't want school here to be seen as a luxury. I like stories of kids who rose up from the slums to be contributing members of society.

    When i see kids disappointed they don't get to go to the nice school it is weird. You watch waiting for superman, and it makes me wonder why that other school is shit and why isn't more funding being funneled to the actual schools

    I see a special on pbs about cambodians in long beach not finishing high school and doing drugs, joining gangs, getting pregnant. And sure you see some teachers who attempt to reach kids. But that place is toxic. It sucks. Will at risk areas really be cleaned up or will this cost cutting, bare bones, effort still be put into schools.

    Why does the shitty neighborhood have the shitty school? Why does that neighborhood have to even be shitty.

    Here comes gentrification, where do these people go now that they can't afford to live there?

    But maybe that's just the way of the world

    All i know is that from what i have read, from her confirmation hearing, and from the senate at a split she is definitely the wrong choice

    maybe school should be considered a luxury so ass hats here in the states can do better. Only in America do kids have the luxury to take school as a joke. Being porn to poor parents, one of them from a dirt ranch in the middle of Mexico, and the other one lived on a staple of spam and beans (sometimes with worms on them), I understand and acknowledge that school is a luxury. They where sure to reinforce the idea that education is a luxury afforded to me only because of where I live. If I didn't choose wisely and take school seriously, I would end up working like an animal with long hours and little pay like them. One of the only real ways to motivate people to actually apply themselves in school, is by making school a luxury and forcing kids to live the life a 3rd worlder. Or are you forgetting what your stay in public education was like? You don't remember the the majority of people that would do the bare minimum, or purposely tank shit becasue they knew they would just make it? Majority of students are people like my brother who take it lightly and just do it because he thinks he can afford to do the bare minimum.

    People in this country are unmotivated because they don't know what it means to have no way out, they don't know what it means that no matter how hard you try, you are more than likely going to stay in a shithole dirt farm in the middle of no where Mexico. That's the fucking luxury that kids here have, and its that becuase school isn't seen as a luxury.

    Also, as you said, those cambodians did drugs, joined gangs, and decided to get pregnant. They choose to do that, that's on them and no amount of money was going to fix or prevent that. Popular culture has the largest impact on the development of kids, and when the most popular trends promote drugs, money, and sex, then you are going to see the problems you see. It's not a question of money, its a question of people. My youngest brother goes to one of the best funded high schools in long beach, and those shit for brains he has to consider peers are still willingly engaging in degenerate and self destructive behavior. Whose fault is that? The school's because it doesn't have enough money? NOpe, that school has more than enough money, and it just goes to show how money is no where near an adaquate solution.
    This is the dumbest shit I've ever read, sorry. Instead of this garbage how about we fix the sad state education is in and give kids a reason to actually fucking care. I dropped out of HS because no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get out of the remedial classes even tho I passed them andtested out of those classes. At that point why should I or anyone else actually give a fuck? kids don't care about school because the school's have shown they don't care about the kids, just numbers and bottom lines.

    Go back to making wax an shit, every time you talk about schooling it's painful. "Let's teach kids the importance of school by not letting them go instead of giving them a reason to care." Fuck that is so stupid.

    struggle breads greatness.

    American kids are entitled and lazy as shit. Look at third world foreigners who focus on career's that make money and secure a life for them. And then you have kids in the states pursuing meme degree's. A kid's job is to go to school and do well, not to have their hands held or be entertained.
    Yea so instead of fixing the problems with schools let's just not let people go.Thats deffinitly going to move American schools up from 27th place in the world or whatever. Problems clearly not the school's that do a shit job teaching, motivating, and directing kids in successful directions, its the kids that are the problem.

    Seriously dude this makes no sense. You wanna fuck over future generations as if that is going to fix the problems with modern day education. Breed a future of morons who can't read, can't write, can't do math, nothing and that's going to fix America's education problem?

    I just seriously cant believe schools offer those "meme degrees" yet its the students faults those exist and keeping them from going to school is going to fix that problem even tho most of the people who go to higher ed learning are people whose families can afford to send them to those schools to get those shitty degress.

    I'm seriously confused as fuck right now.
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  • FemtoFemto Joined: Posts: 4,780
    edited February 3
    Wasted wrote: »
    Calmly explaining why he shouldn't be listened to, never stopped him.

    Nevertheless CNN is right that Trump supports the First Amendment more than Berkeley.

    Nothings going to stop him. I imagine all his points he would try to bring up would end up looking dumb in the face of facts, of which, he would just turn up the rhetoric with theatrics where his fans would drown out any discussions afterwards.

    pedoviejo wrote: »
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    dab00g wrote: »
    Oh okay you are vehemently anti-union

    I get it. But tell me why she would be a good pick. I don't see how she could benefit children when she sees special education as optional

    We can all agree common core sucks as does over valuing of standardized tests.

    Public school worked for me. It has worked for many people. It has worked for top politicians.

    But really when it comes down to it, public school really benefits the kids

    In the third worlds, like the Philippines a lot kids have to choose between work or school. They want to have "enough" to go to school. School is a luxury to the poor, uneducated, and most of then grew up with generations of slums behind then to reinforce that.

    They have public schools there, but it is seen once again as a luxury.

    I don't want school here to be seen as a luxury. I like stories of kids who rose up from the slums to be contributing members of society.

    When i see kids disappointed they don't get to go to the nice school it is weird. You watch waiting for superman, and it makes me wonder why that other school is shit and why isn't more funding being funneled to the actual schools

    I see a special on pbs about cambodians in long beach not finishing high school and doing drugs, joining gangs, getting pregnant. And sure you see some teachers who attempt to reach kids. But that place is toxic. It sucks. Will at risk areas really be cleaned up or will this cost cutting, bare bones, effort still be put into schools.

    Why does the shitty neighborhood have the shitty school? Why does that neighborhood have to even be shitty.

    Here comes gentrification, where do these people go now that they can't afford to live there?

    But maybe that's just the way of the world

    All i know is that from what i have read, from her confirmation hearing, and from the senate at a split she is definitely the wrong choice

    maybe school should be considered a luxury so ass hats here in the states can do better. Only in America do kids have the luxury to take school as a joke. Being porn to poor parents, one of them from a dirt ranch in the middle of Mexico, and the other one lived on a staple of spam and beans (sometimes with worms on them), I understand and acknowledge that school is a luxury. They where sure to reinforce the idea that education is a luxury afforded to me only because of where I live. If I didn't choose wisely and take school seriously, I would end up working like an animal with long hours and little pay like them. One of the only real ways to motivate people to actually apply themselves in school, is by making school a luxury and forcing kids to live the life a 3rd worlder. Or are you forgetting what your stay in public education was like? You don't remember the the majority of people that would do the bare minimum, or purposely tank shit becasue they knew they would just make it? Majority of students are people like my brother who take it lightly and just do it because he thinks he can afford to do the bare minimum.

    People in this country are unmotivated because they don't know what it means to have no way out, they don't know what it means that no matter how hard you try, you are more than likely going to stay in a shithole dirt farm in the middle of no where Mexico. That's the fucking luxury that kids here have, and its that becuase school isn't seen as a luxury.

    Also, as you said, those cambodians did drugs, joined gangs, and decided to get pregnant. They choose to do that, that's on them and no amount of money was going to fix or prevent that. Popular culture has the largest impact on the development of kids, and when the most popular trends promote drugs, money, and sex, then you are going to see the problems you see. It's not a question of money, its a question of people. My youngest brother goes to one of the best funded high schools in long beach, and those shit for brains he has to consider peers are still willingly engaging in degenerate and self destructive behavior. Whose fault is that? The school's because it doesn't have enough money? NOpe, that school has more than enough money, and it just goes to show how money is no where near an adaquate solution.
    This is the dumbest shit I've ever read, sorry. Instead of this garbage how about we fix the sad state education is in and give kids a reason to actually fucking care. I dropped out of HS because no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get out of the remedial classes even tho I passed them andtested out of those classes. At that point why should I or anyone else actually give a fuck? kids don't care about school because the school's have shown they don't care about the kids, just numbers and bottom lines.

    Go back to making wax an shit, every time you talk about schooling it's painful. "Let's teach kids the importance of school by not letting them go instead of giving them a reason to care." Fuck that is so stupid.

    struggle breads greatness.

    American kids are entitled and lazy as shit. Look at third world foreigners who focus on career's that make money and secure a life for them. And then you have kids in the states pursuing meme degree's. A kid's job is to go to school and do well, not to have their hands held or be entertained.
    Yea so instead of fixing the problems with schools let's just not let people go.Thats deffinitly going to move American schools up from 27th place in the world or whatever. Problems clearly not the school's that do a shit job teaching, motivating, and directing kids in successful directions, its the kids that are the problem.

    Seriously dude this makes no sense. You wanna fuck over future generations as if that is going to fix the problems with modern day education. Breed a future of morons who can't read, can't write, can't do math, nothing and that's going to fix America's education problem?

    I just seriously cant believe schools offer those "meme degrees" yet its the students faults those exist and keeping them from going to school is going to fix that problem even tho most of the people who go to higher ed learning are people whose families can afford to send them to those schools to get those shitty degress.

    I'm seriously confused as fuck right now.

    Of course that's the right answer.

    no it isn't
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  • MechWarriorMechWarrior Joined: Posts: 5,718
    edited February 3
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    dab00g wrote: »
    Oh okay you are vehemently anti-union

    I get it. But tell me why she would be a good pick. I don't see how she could benefit children when she sees special education as optional

    We can all agree common core sucks as does over valuing of standardized tests.

    Public school worked for me. It has worked for many people. It has worked for top politicians.

    But really when it comes down to it, public school really benefits the kids

    In the third worlds, like the Philippines a lot kids have to choose between work or school. They want to have "enough" to go to school. School is a luxury to the poor, uneducated, and most of then grew up with generations of slums behind then to reinforce that.

    They have public schools there, but it is seen once again as a luxury.

    I don't want school here to be seen as a luxury. I like stories of kids who rose up from the slums to be contributing members of society.

    When i see kids disappointed they don't get to go to the nice school it is weird. You watch waiting for superman, and it makes me wonder why that other school is shit and why isn't more funding being funneled to the actual schools

    I see a special on pbs about cambodians in long beach not finishing high school and doing drugs, joining gangs, getting pregnant. And sure you see some teachers who attempt to reach kids. But that place is toxic. It sucks. Will at risk areas really be cleaned up or will this cost cutting, bare bones, effort still be put into schools.

    Why does the shitty neighborhood have the shitty school? Why does that neighborhood have to even be shitty.

    Here comes gentrification, where do these people go now that they can't afford to live there?

    But maybe that's just the way of the world

    All i know is that from what i have read, from her confirmation hearing, and from the senate at a split she is definitely the wrong choice

    maybe school should be considered a luxury so ass hats here in the states can do better. Only in America do kids have the luxury to take school as a joke. Being porn to poor parents, one of them from a dirt ranch in the middle of Mexico, and the other one lived on a staple of spam and beans (sometimes with worms on them), I understand and acknowledge that school is a luxury. They where sure to reinforce the idea that education is a luxury afforded to me only because of where I live. If I didn't choose wisely and take school seriously, I would end up working like an animal with long hours and little pay like them. One of the only real ways to motivate people to actually apply themselves in school, is by making school a luxury and forcing kids to live the life a 3rd worlder. Or are you forgetting what your stay in public education was like? You don't remember the the majority of people that would do the bare minimum, or purposely tank shit becasue they knew they would just make it? Majority of students are people like my brother who take it lightly and just do it because he thinks he can afford to do the bare minimum.

    People in this country are unmotivated because they don't know what it means to have no way out, they don't know what it means that no matter how hard you try, you are more than likely going to stay in a shithole dirt farm in the middle of no where Mexico. That's the fucking luxury that kids here have, and its that becuase school isn't seen as a luxury.

    Also, as you said, those cambodians did drugs, joined gangs, and decided to get pregnant. They choose to do that, that's on them and no amount of money was going to fix or prevent that. Popular culture has the largest impact on the development of kids, and when the most popular trends promote drugs, money, and sex, then you are going to see the problems you see. It's not a question of money, its a question of people. My youngest brother goes to one of the best funded high schools in long beach, and those shit for brains he has to consider peers are still willingly engaging in degenerate and self destructive behavior. Whose fault is that? The school's because it doesn't have enough money? NOpe, that school has more than enough money, and it just goes to show how money is no where near an adaquate solution.
    This is the dumbest shit I've ever read, sorry. Instead of this garbage how about we fix the sad state education is in and give kids a reason to actually fucking care. I dropped out of HS because no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get out of the remedial classes even tho I passed them andtested out of those classes. At that point why should I or anyone else actually give a fuck? kids don't care about school because the school's have shown they don't care about the kids, just numbers and bottom lines.

    Go back to making wax an shit, every time you talk about schooling it's painful. "Let's teach kids the importance of school by not letting them go instead of giving them a reason to care." Fuck that is so stupid.
    Struggle breeds greatness. *snip*
    No, it doesn't, because in societies where the "survival of the fittest" is state policy, only the rich and well-connected thrive, while everyone else is more or less screwed. The USA had that as state policy during the Gilded Age, and the result was robber barons oppressing anyone they wanted to, monopolistic gouging, management-sanctioned thugs attacking unions/union organizers, filth in food(read The Jungle), a punishing business cycle, slavery/racial oppression, starvation among the elderly/impoverished, and gunboat diplomacy done in the defense/support of business interests. If you really wanted this society to be better, you'd stop believing your own lies in this context, because the Social Darwinist bullshit you tout is morally wrong, and the only thing it really "breeds" is tyranny where the rich and powerful rule more harshly than they already do.

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  • ElderGODElderGOD GOD Joined: Posts: 9,800
    edited February 3
    Reticently wrote: »
    Preppy wrote: »
    Are we just ignoring Russia's actions towards nearby countries in the past couple years? That seems pretty messed up. There are some pretty strong reasons to be giving Russia the stink-eye.

    The past couple of years? How about this week?

    Oh look, it's Maggie who asked Hillary to create a story about herself so that Maggie could publish it as "fact."

    After Obama armed terrorists all over the Middle East and killed so many people and created the refugee crisis the US has no right telling Russia not to support people who actually ask for their help.

    Getting tired of this liberal cancer and their hypocrisy.
  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    dab00g wrote: »
    Oh okay you are vehemently anti-union

    I get it. But tell me why she would be a good pick. I don't see how she could benefit children when she sees special education as optional

    We can all agree common core sucks as does over valuing of standardized tests.

    Public school worked for me. It has worked for many people. It has worked for top politicians.

    But really when it comes down to it, public school really benefits the kids

    In the third worlds, like the Philippines a lot kids have to choose between work or school. They want to have "enough" to go to school. School is a luxury to the poor, uneducated, and most of then grew up with generations of slums behind then to reinforce that.

    They have public schools there, but it is seen once again as a luxury.

    I don't want school here to be seen as a luxury. I like stories of kids who rose up from the slums to be contributing members of society.

    When i see kids disappointed they don't get to go to the nice school it is weird. You watch waiting for superman, and it makes me wonder why that other school is shit and why isn't more funding being funneled to the actual schools

    I see a special on pbs about cambodians in long beach not finishing high school and doing drugs, joining gangs, getting pregnant. And sure you see some teachers who attempt to reach kids. But that place is toxic. It sucks. Will at risk areas really be cleaned up or will this cost cutting, bare bones, effort still be put into schools.

    Why does the shitty neighborhood have the shitty school? Why does that neighborhood have to even be shitty.

    Here comes gentrification, where do these people go now that they can't afford to live there?

    But maybe that's just the way of the world

    All i know is that from what i have read, from her confirmation hearing, and from the senate at a split she is definitely the wrong choice

    maybe school should be considered a luxury so ass hats here in the states can do better. Only in America do kids have the luxury to take school as a joke. Being porn to poor parents, one of them from a dirt ranch in the middle of Mexico, and the other one lived on a staple of spam and beans (sometimes with worms on them), I understand and acknowledge that school is a luxury. They where sure to reinforce the idea that education is a luxury afforded to me only because of where I live. If I didn't choose wisely and take school seriously, I would end up working like an animal with long hours and little pay like them. One of the only real ways to motivate people to actually apply themselves in school, is by making school a luxury and forcing kids to live the life a 3rd worlder. Or are you forgetting what your stay in public education was like? You don't remember the the majority of people that would do the bare minimum, or purposely tank shit becasue they knew they would just make it? Majority of students are people like my brother who take it lightly and just do it because he thinks he can afford to do the bare minimum.

    People in this country are unmotivated because they don't know what it means to have no way out, they don't know what it means that no matter how hard you try, you are more than likely going to stay in a shithole dirt farm in the middle of no where Mexico. That's the fucking luxury that kids here have, and its that becuase school isn't seen as a luxury.

    Also, as you said, those cambodians did drugs, joined gangs, and decided to get pregnant. They choose to do that, that's on them and no amount of money was going to fix or prevent that. Popular culture has the largest impact on the development of kids, and when the most popular trends promote drugs, money, and sex, then you are going to see the problems you see. It's not a question of money, its a question of people. My youngest brother goes to one of the best funded high schools in long beach, and those shit for brains he has to consider peers are still willingly engaging in degenerate and self destructive behavior. Whose fault is that? The school's because it doesn't have enough money? NOpe, that school has more than enough money, and it just goes to show how money is no where near an adaquate solution.
    This is the dumbest shit I've ever read, sorry. Instead of this garbage how about we fix the sad state education is in and give kids a reason to actually fucking care. I dropped out of HS because no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get out of the remedial classes even tho I passed them andtested out of those classes. At that point why should I or anyone else actually give a fuck? kids don't care about school because the school's have shown they don't care about the kids, just numbers and bottom lines.

    Go back to making wax an shit, every time you talk about schooling it's painful. "Let's teach kids the importance of school by not letting them go instead of giving them a reason to care." Fuck that is so stupid.

    struggle breads greatness.

    American kids are entitled and lazy as shit. Look at third world foreigners who focus on career's that make money and secure a life for them. And then you have kids in the states pursuing meme degree's. A kid's job is to go to school and do well, not to have their hands held or be entertained.
    Yea so instead of fixing the problems with schools let's just not let people go.Thats deffinitly going to move American schools up from 27th place in the world or whatever. Problems clearly not the school's that do a shit job teaching, motivating, and directing kids in successful directions, its the kids that are the problem.

    Seriously dude this makes no sense. You wanna fuck over future generations as if that is going to fix the problems with modern day education. Breed a future of morons who can't read, can't write, can't do math, nothing and that's going to fix America's education problem?

    I just seriously cant believe schools offer those "meme degrees" yet its the students faults those exist and keeping them from going to school is going to fix that problem even tho most of the people who go to higher ed learning are people whose families can afford to send them to those schools to get those shitty degress.

    I'm seriously confused as fuck right now.

    i've already gone over this multiple times.

    Money isn't the solution, it's a multistage problem that requires all sides to get their act together. Thinking that money is going to fix problems is the wrong way to look at it because we already spend nearly as much as countries like Sweden per student on a federal level. This means we need to change management of schools, change pop cultural values parents need to take responsibility, children need to learn their job is to be students. Injecting money into the system will have diminishing effects becasue you need to optimize other portions of the system. Do you seriously believe we will jump to up to Sweden/Finland tier if we pump enough money to outspend them by a factor of 2? We already spend a few hundred dollars less than them per student on a federal level, why aren't we at their level?

    Also, the lack of an arts program isn't an argument nor excuse for "insert name here" to not do his homework and instead partake in destructive behavior.

    We score 27 becuase we have a lot of poor people who refuse to educate and apply themselves without having their hand held. It doesn't take a genius to make good pay in this country or figure it out. Remove the low income boondocks/inner city and we jump up to number one. Add them back in and we drop that far. There is something more fundemental than money that's bringing the collective ranking of this country down given the fact that we spend so much on education.

    Also, the fed not only pays for your school if you are poor enough, it gives you unlimited money to do so. Money isn't an excuse for poor people anymore given how fafsa is structured. The people that get fucked over are low middle class people with parents making over 60k. Poor is no longer a barrier to get a degree in a STEM field or a field that makes money.
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  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,896
    edited February 3
    I never said money was the solution. Not once have I mentioned money. I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of that post because I bet it has nothing to do with what I have said. I said we need to fix the problems with schools, the shit way we gauge success and knowledge in the field, the shit way we motivate students to be more, the shit teachers who do crappy jobs, and the shit upper level staff. School doesn't need money, it needs restructuring and rebuilding from the ground up.

    I never said anything about dumping money into them. You keep going over this over and over because you're too fucking busy trying to read between lines or something, I'm really not sure, because I never mentioned putting more money into schools. Go back to fucking school and learn how to read what people have actually said and not what you think they are saying. Take a spelling class while you're at it.

    The problem is with the schools themselves, the shit job they do teaching, motivating and preparing people for the future, and the fuck awful advice they give to students moving on to higher ed. Money wont fix those problems, but neither will denying people entry either. All that's going to do is make future generations dumber, and you think people are uniformed now, wait till you take away their basic ed. If anything all the fucking money is why schools are so fucking shit these days.
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  • PreppyPreppy act like you're used to it Joined: Posts: 14,296 admin
    ElderGOD wrote: »
    Reticently wrote: »
    Preppy wrote: »
    Are we just ignoring Russia's actions towards nearby countries in the past couple years? That seems pretty messed up. There are some pretty strong reasons to be giving Russia the stink-eye.

    The past couple of years? How about this week?

    After Obama armed terrorists all over the Middle East and killed so many people and created the refugee crisis the US has no right telling Russia not to support people who actually ask for their help.
    Point A ("Obama, literally the devil...") has nothing to do with point B (Russia/Ukraine) here. "Actually asking for their help" seems massively debatable to the point of probably not being true, unless I'm missing something. Bully: "Timmy really wanted me to take his lunch money." :wtf:
    ElderGOD wrote: »
    Getting tired of this liberal cancer and their hypocrisy.
    Not sure what hypocrisy we're referring to here. Perhaps your hatred ("liberal cancer"?) is getting in the way of your ability to understand politics. Are you perhaps a Sith lord?

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  • FemtoFemto Joined: Posts: 4,780
    edited February 3
    J-ride wrote: »


    Trying to post the pic of the Holocaust Museum's 'Early Signs of Facism'.


    Vanilla Forum says a no go, lol?

    Wil wrote: »

    Lolz. We have the ability for better outfits for the contestants.



    Maybe have Lady Gaga design the outfits?
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    Anti trump protesters are now terrorists?

    Rioters are terrorists?

    Btfo
  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,303
    edited February 3
    dab00g wrote: »
    Anti trump protesters are now terrorists?

    Rioters are terrorists?

    Btfo

    Protesters no, Berkeley-style rioters, yes.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331
    (5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
    (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
    (B) appear to be intended—
    (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
    (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
    (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
    (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
    Post edited by Wasted on
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    by over 120x, since his book sales rocketed over 12000%.
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