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  • ZeroZero Ruler of Dimension X Joined: Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I will be attending Bernie's rally today at my alma matter, then Trump's at First Niagara Center next Monday. The turnout for Bernie should be significant, since UB is a pretty liberal college (arn't they all?! Hyuk-yuk). And Trumps is DEFINITELY going to be packed. There are a lot of Trump supporters outside the city that will show up, I'm sure.

    Never in my time as legally eligible to vote has the presidential primary gotten to New York with something at stake.

    Should be interesting (I hope)
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    Zero wrote: »
    I will be attending Bernie's rally today at my alma matter, then Trump's at First Niagara Center next Monday. The turnout for Bernie should be significant, since UB is a pretty liberal college (arn't they all?! Hyuk-yuk). And Trumps is DEFINITELY going to be packed. There are a lot of Trump supporters outside the city that will show up, I'm sure.

    Never in my time as legally eligible to vote has the presidential primary gotten to New York with something at stake.

    Should be interesting (I hope)

    Are you around Buffalo? Let us know how those rallies turn out, I'd be curious to hear about them as I'm from around that area originally.
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  • ZeroZero Ruler of Dimension X Joined: Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 2016
    DoctaMario wrote: »
    Zero wrote: »
    I will be attending Bernie's rally today at my alma matter, then Trump's at First Niagara Center next Monday. The turnout for Bernie should be significant, since UB is a pretty liberal college (arn't they all?! Hyuk-yuk). And Trumps is DEFINITELY going to be packed. There are a lot of Trump supporters outside the city that will show up, I'm sure.

    Never in my time as legally eligible to vote has the presidential primary gotten to New York with something at stake.

    Should be interesting (I hope)

    Are you around Buffalo? Let us know how those rallies turn out, I'd be curious to hear about them as I'm from around that area originally.

    @DoctaMario

    Yeah, I live in Buffalo, and sure, I'll gladly share.

    So we got there about 30 minutes before the doors opened, and the line was insane. It was also very cold, wet and poorly organized. Even though admission was free (and no tickets required), they suddenly wanted everyone in line to sign up on their website last minute to get a barcode to scan in with (obviously so that they can get your e-mail and spam you with campaign shit). Because of this, the line was moving really slow. Eventually, they realized how stupid this was and just let everyone in.

    We got inside, but there were about 3,000 more people who couldn't get in as the arena was in full capacity. We listened to about 4 other speakers (one of which was from Communication Workers of America union, who announced that Verizon workers are going on strike), before Sanders came. Unfortunately, he wanted to speak with all the people who were stuck outside before coming in, so he was about 30 min late.

    So he comes in, everyone is hype and screaming and thumping, etc. He basically reiterated his usual talking points (raise minimum wage, no fracking, free college, free health care, etc.), and bagged on Clinton's support of the Iraq War, her special-interest-backed super pacs, and her speaches to Wall Street. He also mentioned some Buffalo-specific stuff about how NAFTA supported businesses like Ford to move jobs overseas.

    Once he starting talking about the gender wage gap as if it were real (and not the myth it ACTUALLY is), we were sick to our stomachs and left.

    So yeah, big turnout, mostly young people. In fact, some weren't even old enough to vote. One group in particular were a bunch of shitheads making stupid jokes about Trumps penis.

    ...and apparently Black Lives Matters has a presidential candidate. A supporter was handing out flyers in line.
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  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,230
    edited April 2016
    Watched the debate on Wednesday. Debates really don't help Bernie very much because the medias are on Hillary's side and Hillary's speaking skills outrank Bernie.

    Bernie has been talking about the big money affecting Hillary's policies, and yet he couldn't raise one instance. He can't keep counting on her secret speeches to the big banks as his ticket to victory. This is his number 1 attack point on Hillary, he really needs to back that up if he wants to win.

    Also don't know why Bernie never calls out Hillary on "Obama did it too, why can't I?" He's letting her get away with pulling someone else's race card to win an argument.

    Hillary's policy on making community colleges free as opposed to Bernie's policy on making all the public colleges free make way more sense. College PC culture is already bad enough with expensive tuition, can you imagine if it's free?

    And lol, I didn't know he's against nuclear power. That's so bad. You can't run a country this size with just wind and solar.
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    Xvideos wrote: »
    Watched the debate on Wednesday. Debates really don't help Bernie very much because the medias are on Hillary's side and Hillary's speaking skills outrank Bernie.

    Bernie has been talking about the big money affecting Hillary's policies, and yet he couldn't raise one instance. He can't keep counting on her secret speeches to the big banks as his ticket to victory. This is his number 1 attack point on Hillary, he really needs to back that up if he wants to win.

    Also don't know why Bernie never calls out Hillary on "Obama did it too, why can't I?" He's letting her get away with pulling someone else's race card to win an argument.

    Hillary's policy on making community colleges free as opposed to Bernie's policy on making all the public colleges free make way more sense. College PC culture is already bad enough with expensive tuition, can you imagine if it's free?

    And lol, I didn't know he's against nuclear power. That's so bad. You can't run a country this size with just wind and solar.

    I predicted that Sanders would lose this race by not having the will to outright crush Hillary from the beginning. He reaffirmed her position and viability, when he could have been done with it.

    If Sanders wants to win, he needs to go down the road trump is and start shining a light on the absurdity that are super delegates. For a party that professor itself on democratic principle and expanding that powerx the democrats sure are dull of shit.

    Like clockwork Sanders is just going to bow his head in shame and silence when he is robbed of the nominee just like that time he was cucked at his own rally by a bunch losers with no message.
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  • AcidicEnemaAcidicEnema Joined: Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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    Someone should've gotten Sanders to read Domination 101 before running.

    His declaration in the first debate that no one cared about Hillary's e-mails was the equivalent of a mall rat scrub declaring at the start of a match that he's not going to throw.

    Meanwhile his opponent is ptw by any means necessary, jostling with her elbows and mashing loudly during his combos.

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  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,230
    edited April 2016
    Bernie's crowd in that debate was more on point than he was. They booed Hillary's bullshit every time she pull it.

    I don't think Bernie can count on the email thing until we are sure Hillary's going to prison because using Republican talking points is very likely to cost him supporters.

    He needs to take down all of Hillary's defense mechanism quickly, starting with her Obama crutch. He just need to point out that her campaign used to attack Obama for being a Kenyan Muslim drug dealer, and yet after a whole year he still hasn't done it.
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  • truendymiontruendymion Beer Me! Joined: Posts: 2,212
    Maybe after Sanders wins New York the media will start treating Sanders as a serious candidate...
    Sanders is within 200 pledged delegates in the wake of new boosts from Colorado, Missouri, and Nevada. With over 1,600 pledged delegates still to be allocated throughout the remainder of the Democratic primary, and with several major states with triple-digit delegate counts on the horizon, Sanders has plenty of room to catch up to Clinton before the Democratic National Convention in July.
    http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-delegates-accurate-count/
  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Eagle will return Joined: Posts: 7,758
    That quote is WAY too optimistic. Unpledged delegates is where most of Clinton's lead is anyway, and he only got a handful of delegates from those 3 states. To get any major boost from NY, Sanders has to beat Clinton and beat her HARD. He can't keep going 50-50 and 55-45 with her.
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    edited April 2016
  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    Xvideos wrote: »
    Too bad Democrat doesn't have winner take all states.

    Then it wouldn't give them the power to choose their candinate.
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  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,230
    edited April 2016
    Larry King once again has to emphasize that Trump is not a racist, sure is difficult to be his long time friend.

    7:01

  • ZeroZero Ruler of Dimension X Joined: Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 2016
    Just voted in the New York primary. Been a registered democrat since I first enrolled when I was 18, and although I am still undecided, I do know that I do not want Hilary Clinton as our next POTUS.

    So the choice was obvious.

    Had a nice pipe smoke with my favorite tobacco on the walk home from the polls.

    A good day indeed.
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  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    Xvideos wrote: »
    Larry King once again has to emphasize that Trump is not a racist, sure is difficult to be his long time friend.

    7:01


    He's not though.
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  • PerthoPertho The Runed One Joined: Posts: 22,004 mod
    Thread needs a new title. Gonna think of something clever.
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    jimmy1200 wrote: »
    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
  • PerthoPertho The Runed One Joined: Posts: 22,004 mod
    God damn, none of my news streams work. Trump killed it in NY and the state went Hillary's way?

    Lol NY.
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    jimmy1200 wrote: »
    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,230
    edited April 2016
    Pertho wrote: »
    Thread needs a new title. Gonna think of something clever.

    Something something Trump and 711, something something people throwing dollar bills at Hillary

    Or just joke about super human level of optimism from Bernie supporters after New York.
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  • truendymiontruendymion Beer Me! Joined: Posts: 2,212
    edited April 2016
    Need a goddamn recount in NY this is fucking bullshit.
  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,230
    edited April 2016
    Need a goddamn recount in NY this is fucking bullshit.

    Recount won't change shit when a bunch of people couldn't even vote.
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  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Eagle will return Joined: Posts: 7,758
    Aaaaand Bernie's done. If my sources are right, he has to win 1101 of the remaining 1174 delegates. He needs over 93% of the remaining delegates, which is a margin of victory I doubt he's capable of.

    Hillary vs Trump. Disgusting. I really should leave the US when I finish college. Not because of any specific leader, but because the American public is too self-destructively dumb to survive. Canada and Europe sound much more likely to survive the next several decades.
  • pheraipherai LIVE FOREVER Joined: Posts: 11,885 mod
    Hillary vs Trump. Disgusting. I really should leave the US when I finish college. Not because of any specific leader, but because the American public is too self-destructively dumb to survive. Canada and Europe sound much more likely to survive the next several decades.

    Unfortunately neither Canada or Europe is very welcoming to Americans, but you've got a good shot in NZ or Australia.
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  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,230
    edited April 2016
    Why do Caucasian Americans always say they will move to Canada but never Mexico? I thought they love Mexico, it's their favorite vacation spot.

    Black Americans have way more variety in their choices. They'd go to South Africa, various parts of Africa, and Canada.
  • JoshkazJoshkaz Princess Luna is my Waifu Joined: Posts: 15,232
    All the haters doubting God Emperor Trump? Begone with you! We don't need you here mucking up this nation.
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  • Jack_FrostJack_Frost M.C Joined: Posts: 6,628
    Xvideos wrote: »
    Why do Caucasian Americans always say they will move to Canada but never Mexico? I thought they love Mexico, it's their favorite vacation spot.

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  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    Aaaaand Bernie's done. If my sources are right, he has to win 1101 of the remaining 1174 delegates. He needs over 93% of the remaining delegates, which is a margin of victory I doubt he's capable of.

    Hillary vs Trump. Disgusting. I really should leave the US when I finish college. Not because of any specific leader, but because the American public is too self-destructively dumb to survive. Canada and Europe sound much more likely to survive the next several decades.

    Lol so hyperbolic.

    Europe is being ultra self destructive right now with their pc shit. Sweeden and Norway are cutting back welfare programs due to the massive influx of no skill migtants, and right wingers are gainin ground.

    pherai wrote: »
    Hillary vs Trump. Disgusting. I really should leave the US when I finish college. Not because of any specific leader, but because the American public is too self-destructively dumb to survive. Canada and Europe sound much more likely to survive the next several decades.

    Unfortunately neither Canada or Europe is very welcoming to Americans, but you've got a good shot in NZ or Australia.

    Ironic given how open they've been to migrants. Is it because Americans that would want to move there have skills to displace their relatively "skilled" workfforce?
    Xvideos wrote: »
    Why do Caucasian Americans always say they will move to Canada but never Mexico? I thought they love Mexico, it's their favorite vacation spot.

    Black Americans have way more variety in their choices. They'd go to South Africa, various parts of Africa, and Canada.

    Because Mexico is a pretty country with great peoeple when your on this side of the fence. Whites and Mexicans here like to lie to themselves about what kind of country Mexico really is.
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    pedoviejo wrote: »
    pherai wrote: »
    Hillary vs Trump. Disgusting. I really should leave the US when I finish college. Not because of any specific leader, but because the American public is too self-destructively dumb to survive. Canada and Europe sound much more likely to survive the next several decades.

    Unfortunately neither Canada or Europe is very welcoming to Americans, but you've got a good shot in NZ or Australia.

    Ironic given how open they've been to migrants. Is it because Americans that would want to move there have skills to displace their relatively "skilled" workfforce?

    I'm thinking more about your shot as an unskilled laborer. But even then as a skilled laborer you're competing with the entire EU since EU citizens get to work and live anywhere else in the EU as long as they want.

    I know less about Canada, but I do know my friend from Latvia has an easier path to residency there than an American.

    I'm not trying to make a political point necessarily. I've just actually looked into moving into a more socialist country, and its pretty fucking difficult.

    Personally I think Americans have such a remarkably low interest in travelling overseas, much less living overseas, that there is little motivation for our government to help provide that opportunity.
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  • PerthoPertho The Runed One Joined: Posts: 22,004 mod
    Man, I haven't been posting much because I'm kind of amazed still at how batshit fucking crazy this election cycle has been. I'm not even sure that the majority of people care about the issues. Maybe its the other way around, people care so much that they just want part of the voice heard in any way they can.

    On a fun note, according to the Glenn Beck radio show, Trump has the worst favorability numbers of any presidential candidate ever. He currently has worse numbers than David Duke, former Grand Wizard of the KKK.

    So whose up for a Trump/Duke ticket? :lol:
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    jimmy1200 wrote: »
    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
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    Don't know who would be a decent VP for Cruz. From Glenn Beck, apparently the guy would want somebody who would continue his policies after he dies. That sounds great as a soundbite, but the problem is that he'd need somebody who would give him some semblance of balance.

    Kinda sad Kasich didn't drop out so we could get a Trump v Cruz head to head debate. Although at that point Teflon Trump just mashes rolls the fuck out of there.
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    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
  • pheraipherai LIVE FOREVER Joined: Posts: 11,885 mod
    edited April 2016
    eh I wont miss Cruz when hes rolled over by Big Poppa Trump

    edit:

    No need to speculate. Cruz desperately picks the bitchy PTA president version of Sarah Palin as his running mate

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/04/27/ted-cruz-will-announce-carly-fiorina-as
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  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,230
    edited April 2016
    Whoever wrote his speech understand what common sense is, but when you make that so bluntly, that's gonna hurt foreign relations.

  • BadMojoBadMojo Joined: Posts: 2,552
    Xvideos wrote: »
    Why do Caucasian Americans always say they will move to Canada but never Mexico? I thought they love Mexico, it's their favorite vacation spot.

    Black Americans have way more variety in their choices. They'd go to South Africa, various parts of Africa, and Canada.

    As if Americans will be allowed to immigrate to Canada. Canada is becoming the next Europe/Sweden. Our Prime Minister is a feminist and loves George Soros. Canada's doors are only open to third-worlders, with no intention to integrate into society, and comes from a culture that condones rape and child abuse. It's not like we can just reject those people, that would make us racists.
  • truendymiontruendymion Beer Me! Joined: Posts: 2,212
    Damn now that Bernie is done I almost want to vote for Trump to give a middle finger to the establishment. Consequences be damned.
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    BadMojo wrote: »
    Xvideos wrote: »
    Why do Caucasian Americans always say they will move to Canada but never Mexico? I thought they love Mexico, it's their favorite vacation spot.

    Black Americans have way more variety in their choices. They'd go to South Africa, various parts of Africa, and Canada.

    As if Americans will be allowed to immigrate to Canada. Canada is becoming the next Europe/Sweden. Our Prime Minister is a feminist and loves George Soros. Canada's doors are only open to third-worlders, with no intention to integrate into society, and comes from a culture that condones rape and child abuse. It's not like we can just reject those people, that would make us racists.
    http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/canada-ready-to-receive-250000-american-refugees-in-case-trump-is-elected-president/
    As dumb as that article is. Dont doubt it. Trudeau loves pandering and taking it up the ass.

    I'm going to be in seething in rage if Canada gets flooded with more liberals after this election. Shit, could you image the mess the next PM is going to have to do after Trudeau? All those cuts, all that liberal salt. If Canada some how survives 8 years of Trudeau.
    (Which he is setting up the elections so that only Liberals or NDP can win.)
    Xvideos wrote: »
    Whoever wrote his speech understand what common sense is, but when you make that so bluntly, that's gonna hurt foreign relations.

    If Globalist songs are doing away with things like Nafta, UN, international trade deals (TPP) then I can only image it will strengthen foreign relationships.
    Anyways, TRUMP is the choice.

    Bernie isnt going to run as an independent but thanks for donating to his campaign. Bernouts.
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    Sanders is too much of a bitch pussy to run as an independent.

    It's also his fault he lost the nomination for being soft with Hillary. He should have crushed her and ostracized her right off the bat, but instead played my little pony friendship is forever with her to bash the republicans and especially trump.

    While he sang kumbaya with Hillary, she was getting ready to win.

    Pure evil vs chaotic evil/good dependening on your outlook is what this election cycle looks like it will come down to.

    I'll take my chances with chaos this election cycle.
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    In Bernies defense the Clintons do pretty well vs scandals. It's hard to say if he went more aggressive things would have gone better for him.
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