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  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,159
    Man, Trump literally got his black female proxy to make an ad saying he's not racist and sexist.

  • RocketUppercutRocketUppercut "You have no dignity." Joined: Posts: 628
    Xvideos wrote: »
    Man, Trump literally got his black female proxy to make an ad saying he's not racist and sexist.

    (video link)

    This is just as cringeworthy as the point morons try to make such as "I'm not racist! I voted for Obama!" or "I have 1 black friend!"
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  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,159
    edited May 2016
    This is just as cringeworthy as the point morons try to make such as "I'm not racist! I voted for Obama!" or "I have 1 black friend!"

    Wait what? Voting for president is a pretty big deal, man. Getting Obama into the white house was one of the big fights to end racism in America back in 2008.

    A progressive racist would have voted for Hillary over Obama in the primaries, and would only hate-vote for Obama out of spite for McCain and the GOP. But that doesn't hold because McCain was pretty much a centrist authoritarian just like the hawkish Clinton.

    Or are you talking about the "benevolent racists" who voted for Obama out of white guilt instead of looking at him as a qualified competent candidate over his opponents?

    Or the people who felt pressured to vote for Obama because they didn't want to be called racist?

    None of those makes sense to me.
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  • truendymiontruendymion Beer Me! Joined: Posts: 2,154
    It is entertaining watching the left try to paint Donald Trump as a sexist and a racist even though that can't point to a single example of actual sexism or racism. If they kept shouting it long enough it'll magically come true I guess.

    I guess if you read Trump's statements at face value and ignore the dog-whistle language coding than there's nothing racist/sexist at all about what he's said.
  • NeloVergilNeloVergil Joined: Posts: 3,032
    So, which glass do I break in case of a Trump presidency?
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  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,048
    edited May 2016
    NeloVergil wrote: »
    So, which glass do I break in case of a Trump presidency?

    Mr. Hillary already broke the Glass
    -Steagall
    .

    Trump can't really do worse than that.

    <<<Not a Trumpetteer. <sic>

    Hillary has this in the bag.

    Along with a few dead cats, some chicken blood, an eye of newt, whatever might be left of federal transparency, and Trump's real hair (albeit singular).
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  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Remember me now, Yipes? Joined: Posts: 7,364
    Just going to leave the Libertarian debate for interested parties:
  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Remember me now, Yipes? Joined: Posts: 7,364
    edited May 2016
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  • KorbidonKorbidon Who can stand against such abominations? Joined: Posts: 4,335
    American voting system means voting third party is essentially voting against the candidate you would prefer when your candidate inevitably loses.
  • Shaft AgentShaft Agent https://discord.gg/F4ZmxDu Joined: Posts: 9,146 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG


    awwwwww yeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhh!
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  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Remember me now, Yipes? Joined: Posts: 7,364
    Korbidon wrote: »
    American voting system means voting third party is essentially voting against the candidate you would prefer when your candidate inevitably loses.

    This is, to be quite honest, utter bullshit spouted by media and political pundits to protect the 2-Party system. If people don't like Democrats or Republicans, they absolutely should vote for an Independent or third party. If the Libertarians, Green Party, or some Independent gets a sizable portion of the vote, the parties will have to either grudgingly integrate the movement into their platforms or risk losing their chokehold on the political system. This isn't about picking a winner; poll numbers should never influence your opinion of a candidate's platform or history. This is about making it very clear that the "preferred" candidate isn't all that preferred, and the people will not be spoon-fed leaders and opinions.

    With Trump as the nominee, the position of third parties and Independents will depend on the outcome of the Democratic primary. If Clinton wins, Sanders' supporters aren't going to disappear and aren't going to flock to her just because she's a Democrat; they're going to look for people who will keep fighting for campaign finance, education, and health care reforms without being in the pockets of those institutions. Should Sanders pull through after all, the establishment will frantically find some drone to fill the seat for four years while the parties do some soul-searching. Either way, Libertarians aren't happy with the choices and are going to get a hell of a lot more vocal. General Election will likely be a mess unless someone who isn't so damn polarizing shows up and starts getting votes.

    If you are so damn concerned about picking someone who will at least be on the ballot, the Libertarian and Green parties are the largest third parties right now and stand to siphon off disenfranchised voters who feel their "expected" party doesn't work anymore.
  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Remember me now, Yipes? Joined: Posts: 7,364
    Watched some excerpts from the Green Party's debate. I like that they're genuine, but god damn they come off as weak. On a debate stage without a live audience, surrounded by people who basically agree with them, they're already fumbling. Their ideas come off as a bit too bleeding-heart liberal, even by my standards. The "white flags and hugboxes" approach to foreign policy isn't very realistic, and their platform comes across as underdeveloped outside of fighting climate change.

    I'll follow them a bit longer to see if they manage to grow a spine, but I'm probably going to wind up voting Libertarian if Clinton takes the nomination.
  • truendymiontruendymion Beer Me! Joined: Posts: 2,154
    SAVAGE
  • ElderGODElderGOD GOD Joined: Posts: 9,800
    SAVAGE
    youtube.com/watch?v=uDW1R9OmOr0
    I see people continue to spread misinformation to bash Trump.

    Please learn the difference between the words legal and illegal.

    Want to come to the US? Do it legally. Trump is right on this and most Americans agree.

  • truendymiontruendymion Beer Me! Joined: Posts: 2,154
    LOL most Americans do NOT agree with Trump. He's going to fail so hard in the general election.
  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Illegal immigrants are the scapegoat of dummies. They have a net beneficial effect on the American economy, so why again do we want them rounded up and shipped out?
  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,872


    awwwwww yeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhh!

    Shouldve stomped that tranny into the dirt. Fuck you doing spittin on people. Thats fucking disrespectful, and disgusting as fuck. Dirty motherfucker.

    White people, get your white people. lol. Walking around with their faces covered up like they at war, spitting on people, and saying theyre trannys. LOL
    LEMME GET DAT!
  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,872
    SAVAGE

    Jesus christ that was so cringe worthy. Whos kids are these cursing like sailors. lol


    ElderGOD wrote: »
    SAVAGE
    youtube.com/watch?v=uDW1R9OmOr0
    I see people continue to spread misinformation to bash Trump.

    Please learn the difference between the words legal and illegal.

    Want to come to the US? Do it legally. Trump is right on this and most Americans agree.

    I always say, if you cannot intellectually discuss an issue on the level of even a 10th grader, then you shouldnt be speaking on it. There are tons of things to say about illegal immigration, cartels, and illegal immigrants working in the U.S, getting paid under the table, and not paying taxes. You can have that discussion without calling most illegal immigrants rapist, and murderers. You can discuss the reality of people having children in america, but arent american citizens, without using buzz words like anchor babies.

    Trump isnt really "right" about much of anything. Hes pointing out the obvious in a crude and deplorable manner. You can talk about radical islamic terrorism and silence about friends and family mixed up with this in muslim communities without talking about banning muslims from america temporarily. WTF. You can talk about illegal immigration without calling most illegal mexican immigrants rapist, and murderers. You can talk about wanting to defeat ISIS without saying you need to kill their families, and carpet bomb cities.

    LEMME GET DAT!
  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,872
    I gotta say one thing about bernie

    I support bernie, but i cant lie, for a few months ive kinda gotten tired of him. In the sense that i feel like hes been on autopilot for a really long time. Maybe i havent followed him close enough, but its like hes repeating the same shit over and over. I cant say i heard any even semi detailed point of view on many of the topics he discusses. Its just, break up the banks, free healthcare, free college, every other major country in the world, goldman sachs, ect..

    Like do you have no detailed opinions on corrupt officers/judges/politicians? Do you have no more liberating opinion on poverty other than people need help, and we need to give it to them? Its just these weird cookie cut response from everyone about everything.

    I mean, i dont know, im a regular joe schmo, and i feel like i could out inspire the american people over trump, hillary, and bernie. I dont feel like im hearing anything sometimes. Just rhetoric, classless nonsense, hopes and dreams. Where is the practical shit. Where is the discussion on adversities you might face in trying to get your shit done. Where is your foresight? What is your 4 year plan. 8 year plan. What is your ideal america.

    I dont know, maybe i need to research more, but im pretty sure nothing will be awe inspiring.
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  • Shaft AgentShaft Agent https://discord.gg/F4ZmxDu Joined: Posts: 9,146 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    LOL most Americans do NOT agree with Trump. He's going to fail so hard in the general election.
    do you have a game plan if he gets elected?
    jimmy1200 wrote: »


    awwwwww yeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhh!

    Shouldve stomped that tranny into the dirt. Fuck you doing spittin on people. Thats fucking disrespectful, and disgusting as fuck. Dirty motherfucker.

    White people, get your white people. lol. Walking around with their faces covered up like they at war, spitting on people, and saying theyre trannys. LOL
    i agree, but the second that dude retaliated to that ASSAULT he would have turned the transgender into a martyr in the eyes of the news. they'd blame Trump for inciting hatred towards the whole LGBTQ community, and would only show the transgender getting beat up

    -similar to that dude got the shit beat out of him at the Trump rally when the whole video showed HIM spitting on a woman and cocking his arm back like he was going to punch people near him.

    -like that chick that got pepper sprayed but she was swinging first

    i have yet to see a Trump supporter crash a Sanders/Clinton rally and pull anything close to the kind of bullshit these protesters have been doing to Trump crowds.
    Forget trying to pass for normal. Follow your geekdom. Embrace nerditude. In the immortal words of Lafcadio Hearn, a geek of incredible obscurity whose work is still in print after a hundred years, “Woo the muse of the odd.” You may be a geek. You may have geek written all over you. You should aim to be one geek they’ll never forget. Don’t aim to be civilized. Don’t hope that straight people will keep you on as some sort of pet. To hell with them. You should fully realize what society has made of you and take a terrible revenge. Get weird. Get way weird. Get dangerously weird. Get sophisticatedly, thoroughly weird, and don’t do it halfway. Put every ounce of horsepower you have behind it. Don’t become a well-rounded person. Well-rounded people are smooth and dull. Become a thoroughly spiky person. Grow spikes from every angle. Stick in their throats like a pufferfish. -Bruce Sterling
  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Remember me now, Yipes? Joined: Posts: 7,364
    Bernie was one of the more outspoken candidates on Flint, and called for the mayor to resign. A mayor which, might I add, endorsed Hillary Clinton.

    You aren't wrong though. Bernie's starting to reach the upper cap of his audience at a time when he needs sweeping victories. All three candidates are starting to tone back their campaigning though. Trump is preparing for the general election, Hillary is trying to wrap up the Democratic nomination ASAP so she can start campaigning as the anti-Trump candidate, and Bernie's trying to pull a last-chance upset in California. There isn't much question as to where everyone stands now, as the remaining three have all made plenty of speeches and rallies. The auto-piloting you see is because we're so far into the primary.
  • truendymiontruendymion Beer Me! Joined: Posts: 2,154
    edited May 2016
    do you have a game plan if he gets elected?

    No need. He's not getting elected. The Electoral College is tilted to favor Democratic nominees by a wide margin. To top it off the Republican nominee is a toxic asshole. Unfortunately it looks Hillary will be our next president :(
  • ElderGODElderGOD GOD Joined: Posts: 9,800
    If Bernie supporters weren't so busy attacking Trump maybe they might have realized that Bernie isn't getting anywhere without beating Hillary first.

    Hillary is a criminal, murderer, security disaster, etc, but Bernie is being so gentle with her.

    Bernie is from Brooklyn and actually likes the place while Hillary hates New York and only likes sleeping with Wall Street.

    How the hell you guys let Bernie lose to Hillary in New York, Bernie should have just dropped out after that.

    Anyways, like I said in the beginning, I will vote for whoever as long as Hillary and Ted Cruz don't win, so my vote is going to Trump.

  • PerthoPertho The Runed One Joined: Posts: 21,826 mod
    What's wrong with Cruz?
    Ronin Chaos on Pertho:

    "Oh, Pertho. You complete me."
    jimmy1200 wrote: »
    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Oh god, ElderDumbass is trying to be smart again.
  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Remember me now, Yipes? Joined: Posts: 7,364
    Pertho wrote: »
    What's wrong with Cruz?

    He's pretty much Trump with Hillary's habit of outright lying. Add in a near-zealot level of strict evangelism and you have a really dangerous mentality. He's actually been MORE extreme than Trump on some ideas, just quieter about them.
    ElderGOD wrote: »
    If Bernie supporters weren't so busy attacking Trump maybe they might have realized that Bernie isn't getting anywhere without beating Hillary first.
    Hillary is a criminal, murderer, security disaster, etc, but Bernie is being so gentle with her.
    Bernie is from Brooklyn and actually likes the place while Hillary hates New York and only likes sleeping with Wall Street.
    How the hell you guys let Bernie lose to Hillary in New York, Bernie should have just dropped out after that.
    Anyways, like I said in the beginning, I will vote for whoever as long as Hillary and Ted Cruz don't win, so my vote is going to Trump.

    Don't label Bernie supporters so broadly. If third-party wasn't an option, I would much rather have Trump than Hillary. Trump has the smallest, slightest chance of actually being a good president, which is more than Hillary can say.
    I know it seems like Bernie is treating her way too nicely, and in some respects he is. Keep in mind though, he's trying to win the Democratic primary from the Democratic Party's preferred candidate. If he even whispers Benghazi, FBI investigation, or scandal, the entire hard-line Democratic Party will disown him.

    This is a crowd booing Jorge Ramos, otherwise a darling of the far left. Can you imagine the shitstorm if Bernie were to call her on it? The core Democrats have drunk all the Kool-Aid and are demanding more.
  • VynceVynce Hater. Joined: Posts: 14,655
    "We're Fucked took an impressive 6% of the popular vote nationwide."

    Maybe we'll see a couple running mates that we can be excited about.

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  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    You really gonna tell me Trump would make a good president? Based on what?
  • Shaft AgentShaft Agent https://discord.gg/F4ZmxDu Joined: Posts: 9,146 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    do you have a game plan if he gets elected?

    No need. He's not getting elected. The Electoral College is tilted to favor Democratic nominees by a wide margin. To top it off the Republican nominee is a toxic asshole. Unfortunately it looks Hillary will be our next president :(

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    this election has been a wild ride with analysts getting blown up constantly. imo anything could happen
    Forget trying to pass for normal. Follow your geekdom. Embrace nerditude. In the immortal words of Lafcadio Hearn, a geek of incredible obscurity whose work is still in print after a hundred years, “Woo the muse of the odd.” You may be a geek. You may have geek written all over you. You should aim to be one geek they’ll never forget. Don’t aim to be civilized. Don’t hope that straight people will keep you on as some sort of pet. To hell with them. You should fully realize what society has made of you and take a terrible revenge. Get weird. Get way weird. Get dangerously weird. Get sophisticatedly, thoroughly weird, and don’t do it halfway. Put every ounce of horsepower you have behind it. Don’t become a well-rounded person. Well-rounded people are smooth and dull. Become a thoroughly spiky person. Grow spikes from every angle. Stick in their throats like a pufferfish. -Bruce Sterling
  • ElderGODElderGOD GOD Joined: Posts: 9,800
    edited May 2016
    Raz0r wrote: »
    Oh god, ElderDumbass is trying to be smart again.

    Another useless comment from a manchild who thinks his opinion matters because he's voting for Hillary because she's a female just to prove how not sexist he is.

    Someone like you who openly cheats on his girl is trash that shouldn't even be allowed to vote.
    Raz0r wrote: »
    You really gonna tell me Trump would make a good president? Based on what?
    I don't see anyone here saying that Trump will be such a great president that will fix everything, but if voting for him means that Hillary and Cruz won't win then I'm all for it.

    The only person that I felt no disgust when watching the debates was Carson but I don't think he would be good in a presidential role though I wouldn't mind if Trump continues to keep him close.
  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Looks like I still have your asshole pushed in. You're even claiming shit I never did. Ol' Elder dumbass never changes.
  • regulateregulate Bruv of bruvs Joined: Posts: 6,451 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Pertho wrote: »
    Trump called Elizabeth Warren "pocahontas".

    Holy shit, GD is gonna get elected to the presidency. :lol:

    He's picking a fight with waifu warren? Idk bout GE Trump anymore man
    Never forget:
    Boel wrote: »
    phantom angel the kinda guy that eats a roll of dental floss so that he can slowly come to a shuddering climax as he pulls it out his ass

  • KorbidonKorbidon Who can stand against such abominations? Joined: Posts: 4,335
    One thing you can't deny, Trump makes the best nicknames.

    Lying Hilary is probably going to stick as well.
  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Jeb Bush really did that? Wow. And people out here trying to say the GOP really isn't racist. That video proves otherwise. Pandering to them white voters!

    In other news, Preibus shows how unscrupulous the GOP is when it comes to being bold and not backing a candidate most of the party has come out against. Not that the Democrats are any better, but at least their voter base will go out and vote for another party if they have a shit candidate.
  • SadQuotesSadQuotes Begging for Thread Joined: Posts: 4,519
    I jumped off the Bernie train in December, because he wasn't getting anywhere and still isn't.

    It's gonna be Hillary, because fr I'm annoyed by all the "How Bernie can win the Election" articles since November when it's clear that he's gonna lose.

    Donald Trump is gonna win the Election for sure.
    This is what it feels like.
  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Remember me now, Yipes? Joined: Posts: 7,364
    I'm voting Libertarian if Bernie doesn't get the nomination. Even if he wins, I might vote Libertarian anyway depending on how things go before the general election.

    Would Libertarianism be the best approach to governing a country as large and diverse as the USA? Let the states govern themselves, and only involve the federal government on abuses of power, civil rights, or civil liberties.
  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Seriously, the South is just the shining example in why letting states rule themselves is a terrible idea. Since the 19th Century we've had examples as to why it's a terrible--TERRIBLE--idea.

    Shit, even if you gave more liberal states like New York and California dominion to set rules for themselves, one would be 100% run by developers and cronyism in the state capital while the other would be nothing but NIMBY assholes breaking up their state into 7 other states taking away money from minority-populated cities and having technocrats rule it all, respectively.
  • odinodin is october coming? Joined: Posts: 15,227 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Jeb Bush out here winning hearts and minds



    JEB 2016!

    I don't have sound, but what the hell is this 1890 shit going on??
  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,872
    Jeb Bush out here winning hearts and minds

    JEB 2016!

    JEB! LOL, my nigga was two piecing her up. Shit was thumpin. Professional victims. Bites the man, gets hit in the face until she stops, and then is like, you assaulted me. lol wut.
    LEMME GET DAT!
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