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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Beyond Anger... Ultra Rage Joined: Posts: 26,051
    I'm not cool with that shit anywhere.

    Blow all their asses up.
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  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,743 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG


    :rofl: Even Hannity had to come out and defend Keurig, who has since apologized for jumping the gun as they did. Everybody makes mistakes.

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    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

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  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,743 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Pertho wrote: »
    k4polo wrote: »

    I don't think anyone is too shocked that the Trumps and Wikileaks seemed to be working together.

    Are you shocked that Bernie purposefully ran a campaign he knew was going to lose so the DNC could keep the political donations to fuel its operations?



    :rofl: I had to. They did Bernie so wrong that getting beat up by Bolo would've been a kindness to him.

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    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

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  • BR3N7BR3N7 All eyez on me! Joined: Posts: 2,115
    Starhammer wrote: »

    :rofl: Even Hannity had to come out and defend Keurig, who has since apologized for jumping the gun as they did. Everybody makes mistakes.

    No they apologized for how they did it via Twitter and ya it should of been on a nice letterhead to make it look more professional I guess and they still have the ads pulled like these others:



    But of course Starhammer would try and defend the pedophiles or the people who are defending them.

  • BR3N7BR3N7 All eyez on me! Joined: Posts: 2,115
    edited November 14
    If Moore wins in Alabama there is a shot it will be blocked and it would allow Sessions to have his seat back. This would also open the door for the new AG to fire Mueller. Fucking brilliant and seems logical at this point for them to try it if it all goes down the way they want.

    uproxx.com/news/jeff-sessions-alabama-roy-moore/
  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,789
    Where are you getting any of that info? I literally googled what you described and all i got were conspiracy theory articles and bullshit that make it believable that hillary won fair and square?

    Holy hell that theory
  • PerthoPertho The Runed One Joined: Posts: 22,169 mod
    Where are you getting any of that info? I literally googled what you described and all i got were conspiracy theory articles and bullshit that make it believable that hillary won fair and square?

    Holy hell that theory

    Republicans have been running purposefully losing campaigns in lots of places for similar reasons.

    He ran after it was mathematically impossible for him to win and then slinked off quietly when his supporters wanted him to fight the nonsense. You have Donna Brassile talking about how the DNC coffers were busted after Obama but you can't put two and two together?

    BernieBros got GOT. The same way that a lot of people used the tea party to run losing campaigns to make money. His old ass can go eat a dick after getting gangbanged by Super Delegates. So not only did he agree to all the backdoor nonsense, they had him go on stage during the DNC to end the ceremony early of delegates voting (you know, to avoid any fuckery from people who didn't want to vote hillary) and then he couldn't even energize his base properly to get his candidate elected against a man who had a scandal a day for a 3 month period.

    Ayyyyy
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    jimmy1200 wrote: »
    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,789
    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/06/donna-brazile-book-shows-real-cancer-eating-at-democrats-commentary.html

    I found this which is going against what your saying

    I cant find anything on this theory you have here so idk what else to say
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,743 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Pertho wrote: »
    Where are you getting any of that info? I literally googled what you described and all i got were conspiracy theory articles and bullshit that make it believable that hillary won fair and square?

    Holy hell that theory

    Republicans have been running purposefully losing campaigns in lots of places for similar reasons.

    He ran after it was mathematically impossible for him to win and then slinked off quietly when his supporters wanted him to fight the nonsense. You have Donna Brassile talking about how the DNC coffers were busted after Obama but you can't put two and two together?

    BernieBros got GOT. The same way that a lot of people used the tea party to run losing campaigns to make money. His old ass can go eat a dick after getting gangbanged by Super Delegates. So not only did he agree to all the backdoor nonsense, they had him go on stage during the DNC to end the ceremony early of delegates voting (you know, to avoid any fuckery from people who didn't want to vote hillary) and then he couldn't even energize his base properly to get his candidate elected against a man who had a scandal a day for a 3 month period.

    Ayyyyy

    Well, it was mathematically impossible for Trump to win to if you went by everything the major news outlets were saying. Everybody knows how that ended.................and it's not done yet. I don't know if Bernie was in on it from the start, but his action after losing (Joining with the hillary party) and then his recent actions...........or lack thereof after Donna Brassile's revelations show that he simply wasn't the right guy for the job. He didn't show the strength or passion needed to win. If this is true, then They really pulled every trick in the book on Trump, but it wasn't enough to get the job done.

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  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,105
    Pertho wrote: »
    Starhammer wrote: »
    :rofl: I had to. They did Bernie so wrong that getting beat up by Bolo would've been a kindness to him.

    The more inside information comes out, the more its evident that nobody did Bernie wrong; things are pointing at him being complicit in a scheme to defraud people of campaign contributions by purposefully running a losing campaign. He ran to fill the coffers of the DNC.

    Socialism really fucking worked for his fucking ass; he redistributed poor people's wealth right up to the rich. He might as well have run on a republican ticket preaching corporate welfare since that's what his campaign managed to do for the DNC.

    The republican party is a sham and the democrats are a bigger one with better PR.

    Real question- did Bernie do anything differently than what both parties have been doing since the campaign financing rules were set into law in 1974?

    And fwiw, his campaign did energize the Socialists (specifically the DSA) to take more local elections in 2017 than I think they've ever had before, while also keeping us talk about him and his ideas long after the campaign was over. So it's hard to say that his ONLY driver for staying in the running was to help finance the Democrats.

    Plus, Trump also ran what just about everyone said was a losing campaign, and look how that ended up.

    Which isn't to say that I'm not cynical enough to believe Bernie might be corrupt. I'd just want to see more before I called it stark corruption vs some sort of devil's compromise.
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,743 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Reticently wrote: »

    Wha? He didn't touch some chick 30 years ago and she wants to bravely come forth today and finally out him as her attacker?

    KuTyuw9.gif

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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,900
    Pertho wrote: »
    k4polo wrote: »

    I don't think anyone is too shocked that the Trumps and Wikileaks seemed to be working together.

    Are you shocked that Bernie purposefully ran a campaign he knew was going to lose so the DNC could keep the political donations to fuel its operations?

    Nope. Bernie is as crooked as any other politician.
    Partially I think you can't even work in that sector in DC without some "blood" on your hands, and as much as people want to put Bernie on a pedestal, he no way the saint he tries to appear to be on TV.

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  • PerthoPertho The Runed One Joined: Posts: 22,169 mod
    Reticently wrote: »

    Real question- did Bernie do anything differently than what both parties have been doing since the campaign financing rules were set into law in 1974?

    And fwiw, his campaign did energize the Socialists (specifically the DSA) to take more local elections in 2017 than I think they've ever had before, while also keeping us talk about him and his ideas long after the campaign was over. So it's hard to say that his ONLY driver for staying in the running was to help finance the Democrats.

    Plus, Trump also ran what just about everyone said was a losing campaign, and look how that ended up.

    Which isn't to say that I'm not cynical enough to believe Bernie might be corrupt. I'd just want to see more before I called it stark corruption vs some sort of devil's compromise.

    After a losing campaign is done they can use left over cash to donate to other shit. Only thing you can't do is donate to another candidate directly.

    But it took me a minute to realize this. Bernie was mathematically eliminated BEFORE he announced. First democrat debate had Hillary, Bernie and Webb. Webb got brushed aside and the dude who spouted all the silly socialist nonsense took over to get the young vote going. Bernie's press with young people was miles high better than Hillary's.

    So even though it was a guaranteed losing campaign, they ran him anyway because otherwise the fix would look way more blatant than it did. What probably happened was that Bernie thought he could win and got smacked down.

    The great thing is the fall out. All the young kids that thought he was gonna rock the system got served a two scoops of shit sandwich. Then for all the trouble of trying to get the younger demographic to like Hillary, now the democrats have a hilarious split personality about where they are going. Only thing they can agree on is that Trump is bad and...that's basically the start and end of the democratic message.

    We spent too much time having fun with the thread than paying attention to the high degree of fuckery going on in the dem side. Mostly because the republican primaries were better than any TV show during that time. But ain't nobody trying to look at the Democratic Party and hold them accountable over last year. Probably because technically nothing happened that they should be held accountable for.
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    jimmy1200 wrote: »
    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,789
    You feeling alright there? This is some serious conspiracy theory you have there. At least with Hillary uranium sale you can find an article about it but this is out of nowhere.

    Have a snickers, you've gone loco
  • PerthoPertho The Runed One Joined: Posts: 22,169 mod
    snip

    I wrote in the word Bullshit and voted for none of the candidates (even the libertarian went full dumbfuck). Bernie didn't get fucked over, he was a fucking sham. Republican side has 12 candidates trying to win the nomination, before the first Democrat debate Hillary amounted a ridiculous lead and one of the participants literally disappears and does nothing after the first debate.

    If that isn't a sham then I don't know what is.
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    jimmy1200 wrote: »
    pertho attacked me first, saying i get all my life tips from 106th and park.
  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,789
    Pertho wrote: »
    snip

    I wrote in the word Bullshit and voted for none of the candidates (even the libertarian went full dumbfuck). Bernie didn't get fucked over, he was a fucking sham. Republican side has 12 candidates trying to win the nomination, before the first Democrat debate Hillary amounted a ridiculous lead and one of the participants literally disappears and does nothing after the first debate.

    If that isn't a sham then I don't know what is.

    I mean, you're pulling off some crazy conspiracy theory out of your ass right now that i cant even research it's so crazy
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,900
    If you think Burnie isn't dirty, well I got a bridge in brooklyn to sell you to. Keep in mind Burnie and his Wife is being (or was I didn't keep up with the story) investigated by the FBI for a real estate scam (sounds like a socialist to me).
    Members of both parties got played, and if Burnie really was legit then why he didn't fight or even raise a voice over how the DNC dogged him.
    He sat quietly as Schultz played buddy buddy with Hillary, he just resigning to his fate.
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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 21,038
    I feel if bernie was going to yield he should have been hilary's choice for vp
  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,105
    Hillary was heir apparent, so nobody except maybe Biden wanted to blow the time and money it would take to run against her. It would be almost like running against a sitting President from your own party. Then Biden's kid died and even he wasn't up for it anymore.

    Bernie figured since the race was empty he'd use the primary as a soap box for his own off brand shit. I am sure the dude would have been thrilled to win, but that probably wasn't really why he was in it. He was happy just to make Hilary sweat for a couple of weeks. Plus even with a loss he'd still have whatever delegates he brought to the convention to vote on putting his off brand shit in the platform.

    Webb was just there to establish some name recognition for himself in case he runs for something later. Unfortunately for him, he didn't really make a great impression.

    So yeah, the Dems fucked up not running a bigger field. But being shitty at getting elected is kind of its own punishment.
  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,303
    No, it comes from the Declaration of Independence.

    Your constitutional rights are considered natural law, yes. Provided by our "creator".
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  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 26,009 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    You know what he was getting at, Wasted.

    Just have a laugh. I won't tell anyone. I promise.
    This is offensive.
  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,303
    It's honestly hard for me to tell anymore.

    It's not much of a burn if you're wrong.
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  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,105
    edited November 14
    Wasted wrote: »
    No, it comes from the Declaration of Independence.

    Your constitutional rights are considered natural law, yes. Provided by our "creator".

    You're conflating the Declaration of Independence with the Bill of Rights. But hey, I don't even know what Australia's governing document is named, so no judgement from me.

    The Bill of Rights grants those particular rights, but doesn't mention a "creator" or even natural law. Certainly nothing about "God".

    The Declaration mentions "Law of Nature and Nature's God", but the only rights it talks about are life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the right to dissolve governments when the first three are impugned. And the Declaration isn't part of the Constitution anyway.
  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,303
    No, I meant the Declaration of Independence.

    http://www.crf-usa.org/foundations-of-our-constitution/natural-rights.html

    The Declaration mentions those three inalienable (natural) rights, yes.

    The Bill of Rights lays out the manner in which those natural rights are protected.

    But hey, I didn't write them. Not my logic.
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  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,105
    Wasted wrote: »
    No, I meant the Declaration of Independence.

    http://www.crf-usa.org/foundations-of-our-constitution/natural-rights.html

    The Declaration mentions those three inalienable (natural) rights, yes.

    The Bill of Rights lays out the manner in which those natural rights are protected.

    But hey, I didn't write them. Not my logic.

    I mean the Declaration doesn't mention the rights in the tweet, ie guns, assembly, speech, religion.

    Nor is the Declaration a philosophical underpinning of the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. So the fact that the Declaration mentions natural law and a creator doesn't have any bearing on the fact the Second Amendment enumerates a right bear arms, or that the First Amendment enumerates the other three.

    Which is a point not even many Americans care to comprehend.

    The rights under law that exist in the US are by common assent of the people, not by inalienable fiat of some creator. The Declaration doesn't say that a 'creator' gives Walsh the rights he listed, and even if it did say that it isn't part of the law anyway.
  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭ Former OG
    Reticently wrote: »
    The rights under law that exist in the US are by common assent of the people, not by inalienable fiat of some creator. The Declaration doesn't say that a 'creator' gives Walsh the rights he listed, and even if it did say that it isn't part of the law anyway.


    I'd love for this to be the case.
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  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,105
    Azure wrote: »
    Reticently wrote: »
    The rights under law that exist in the US are by common assent of the people, not by inalienable fiat of some creator. The Declaration doesn't say that a 'creator' gives Walsh the rights he listed, and even if it did say that it isn't part of the law anyway.


    I'd love for this to be the case.

    It is the case, actually. It just so happens that the people aren't always so bright, or pay that much attention to things.

    Just because you assent to something doesn't remotely mean you understand what's going on.
  • mr_punkmr_punk Joined: Posts: 687
    Razor never said take peoples guns away. Try again and try not to put words in peoples mouths this time, might make your position go over a bit better instead of coming off as something that should be ignored.
    looking up the word "counterfactual" would have help him too.
    BR3N7 wrote: »
    If Moore wins in Alabama there is a shot it will be blocked and it would allow Sessions to have his seat back. This would also open the door for the new AG to fire Mueller. Fucking brilliant and seems logical at this point for them to try it if it all goes down the way they want.
    uproxx.com/news/jeff-sessions-alabama-roy-moore/
    unless trump fires sessions because he said he isn't going to appoint a special counsel to look into trump's conspiracy theory in the pee pee dossier or for some other whimsical reason. why would sessions give up the AG job and go back to the senate in less than a year? besides, it's not like it's going to allow him to escape questioning about ever changing story in describing his russian contacts.

    and in tax cut news. the gop congress are collectively preparing to shoot themselves in one foot before reloading and shooting themselves in the other.




  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭ Former OG
    edited November 14
    Reticently wrote: »
    Azure wrote: »
    Reticently wrote: »
    The rights under law that exist in the US are by common assent of the people, not by inalienable fiat of some creator. The Declaration doesn't say that a 'creator' gives Walsh the rights he listed, and even if it did say that it isn't part of the law anyway.


    I'd love for this to be the case.

    It is the case, actually. It just so happens that the people aren't always so bright, or pay that much attention to things.

    Just because you assent to something doesn't remotely mean you understand what's going on.

    One would have to be a pretty hugely stupid ass to expressly agree to something he or she does not understand.

    EULAs aside.

    But nobody actually agrees with them anyway - they just click them off screen like the annoying non-binding pop ups they are.
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,303
    Reticently wrote: »
    Azure wrote: »
    Reticently wrote: »
    The rights under law that exist in the US are by common assent of the people, not by inalienable fiat of some creator. The Declaration doesn't say that a 'creator' gives Walsh the rights he listed, and even if it did say that it isn't part of the law anyway.


    I'd love for this to be the case.

    It is the case, actually. It just so happens that the people aren't always so bright, or pay that much attention to things.

    Just because you assent to something doesn't remotely mean you understand what's going on.

    The problem with that logic is that, other than maybe the Sixth Amendment, there are no phrases in the Bill of Rights indicating that said rights are being given by that document.

    It's why it says things like "Congress shall make no law...", or "The right of the people....shall not be violated".

    By the same token, the right to bear arms is considered a pre-existing right, an extension of the natural right of self-defense.

    At least, this is how it's always been explained to me.

    Could be wrong, though.
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,303
    And eminent domain means that the Government can just buy it back.
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