Shin Megami Tensei / Persona Series: General Discussion

ChiroChiro Not actually pronounced cheeroJoined: Posts: 2,160
edited January 16 in General Discussion
The SMT brand or should i say style if i want to be more accurate is going strong and now they got two more projects in the works one for the 3DS and another for the Nintendo Switch along with Persona 5 which is reaching slowly to its western release date. as always discuss your hardest fights, best fusions, whose the best waifu, and how much Matador can go fuck himself in the comments below.

im just going to give a brief description for each game coming out cause if i wrote down every single detail i could find about the games id spoil the shit out of myself and be here all day. im going to leave up Persona 5 since it still hasn't released in the west but im making room for our two mystery products.


Persona 5

Persona 5 is the new upcoming game of the now famous series and will be looking to freshen things up by injecting heavy amounts of style the series with it's unique level design, platform and stealth using gameplay, as well as the dual lives of the protagonists being students by day and phantom thieves by night.

Its already been released in Japan to great reviews and now were just waiting in the west for its April 4 release date.

25th Anniversary Projects



http://shin-megamitensei.jp/

its unknown what these two maybe but since this is related to an anniversary it wouldn't hurt to think maybe one of them is a remake of sort. its also interesting to note that while the 3DS project is labeled as such the one appearing on the Switch is labeled as HD which may indicate it may not be an exclusive.
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,312
    edited May 2016
    Let me start this thread off right....

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  • GespenstRitterGespenstRitter The Enigmatic Gale Joined: Posts: 3,237
    Phantom, as usual displaying the worst taste.
    Prove your justice to society.
  • ChiroChiro Not actually pronounced cheero Joined: Posts: 2,160
    edited May 2016
    that's a funny joke
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    but no, seriously
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,312
    Phantom, as usual displaying the worst taste.

    Talks about taste.........Doesn't share his own

    Keep hatin'
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,315
    @Chiro
    You mind using the full title of SMT for the thread name? Just to make it easier to find this thread when using the search function.
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  • ChiroChiro Not actually pronounced cheero Joined: Posts: 2,160
    @Chiro
    You mind using the full title of SMT for the thread name? Just to make it easier to find this thread when using the search function.

    yall are more than welcome to suggest full alternatives. i spent half the time just coming up for a title this thing and would gladly change it if i could find something that doesn't seem to long, sterile, and included that the spinoffs are discussed here as well.
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,315
    Chiro wrote: »
    @Chiro
    You mind using the full title of SMT for the thread name? Just to make it easier to find this thread when using the search function.

    yall are more than welcome to suggest full alternatives. i spent half the time just coming up for a title this thing and would gladly change it if i could find something that doesn't seem to long, sterile, and included that the spinoffs are discussed here as well.

    I'm just asking for the thread title to say Shin Megami Tensei somewhere on it. It would be easier to search for when this thread ends up lost.
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,312
    edited May 2016
    You could just use Shin Megami Tensei / Persona Series: General Discussion

    Edit: Forgot the sig
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  • ChiroChiro Not actually pronounced cheero Joined: Posts: 2,160
    You could just use Shin Megami Tensei / Persona Series: General Discussion

    fuck it ill go with that. not like i really care about that other one much or that anymore seem to be coming out soon.
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,315
    I'm heavily looking forward to Tokyo Mirage Sessions. It looks like a standard SMT game with it's mythology swapped for Fire Emblem's.
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  • GespenstRitterGespenstRitter The Enigmatic Gale Joined: Posts: 3,237
    Standard SMT games don't deal with idols in an unironic, non-deconstructive manner.
    Prove your justice to society.
  • Jack_FrostJack_Frost M.C Joined: Posts: 6,679
    Can SWbeta be banned from this thread?

    just in case
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,315
    Standard SMT games don't deal with idols in an unironic, non-deconstructive manner.

    I take it you played Persona 4: Dancing All Night.
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  • GespenstRitterGespenstRitter The Enigmatic Gale Joined: Posts: 3,237
    No, I don't have a Vita.

    Tokyo Mirage Sessions only resembles an SMT game in the fact that people are summoning things and casting Bufu and Dia. I don't see any traces of the series' trademark analysis of the human condition, or any elements of genre deconstruction.
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,312
    edited May 2016
    Is that why the acronym is backwards?
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,315
    No, I don't have a Vita.

    Tokyo Mirage Sessions only resembles an SMT game in the fact that people are summoning things and casting Bufu and Dia. I don't see any traces of the series' trademark analysis of the human condition, or any elements of genre deconstruction.

    I asked because Dancing All Night brutally deconstructs Japan's entertainment industry and idols. That game provides the plot you want TMS to have.
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  • GespenstRitterGespenstRitter The Enigmatic Gale Joined: Posts: 3,237
    No, I don't have a Vita.

    Tokyo Mirage Sessions only resembles an SMT game in the fact that people are summoning things and casting Bufu and Dia. I don't see any traces of the series' trademark analysis of the human condition, or any elements of genre deconstruction.

    I asked because Dancing All Night brutally deconstructs Japan's entertainment industry and idols. That game provides the plot you want TMS to have.

    Well, that's kind of the point I was getting at. I already know that Dancing All Night does that, as did Rise's subarc did in P4 to a smaller extent. Even when SMT games have high school protagonists and a lighter feel, they still tackle some pretty heavy subject matter. The inevitability of death, owning up to the worst parts of yourself, what the world would really be like if humans suddenly gained control of captureable and trainable monsters, etc.

    TMS has none of that. It's supposed to be a mix of SMT and FE, but has almost zero elements of either. A complete waste of potential.
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  • ChiroChiro Not actually pronounced cheero Joined: Posts: 2,160
    edited May 2016
    so i was a little dissapointed that we didn't get anouther male P5 character then i remembered A. we got one last time and B. there's this mysterious guy on the cover and his face is mysteriously obscured for all the pre-order costumes and the trailer

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  • DrellyFishDrellyFish Joined: Posts: 4,469
    This should end up being one of my fave threads. So what SMT games have you all played/beaten?

    Ive only finished p3&p4 >_<. I got Digital Devil Saga on hiatus. Im close to the end i believe but the last boss I fought+knowing I gotta do some mega grinding fatigued me.

    Currently playing P2: innocent and ive played P1 and Devil Survivor 2 as well.

    Once my shift at work changes Im gonna try to consume myself in SMT more. 3 titles droppin this year so I wamna be caught up and build my SMT resume a bit more
  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,312
    edited May 2016
    I haven't played any of the SMT games, really. I beat P4G and got like half way through P3P. Need to get on the rest of the series.
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  • ExposedDExposedD NO SQUIGGERINO Joined: Posts: 6,398
    uhhh... so what are the chances of that being the P3 protag?
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    I mean, you can't even play as a cat in that game. wtf. it's 2017.
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    It's called Sonic the Fucking Hedgehog, not Sonic the Cat, you dumb bitch.
  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,611
    I dont see anyone in that picture with their face obscured...I'm assuming the dude dead center and in the back is a Persona...Could be wrong tho.
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  • GespenstRitterGespenstRitter The Enigmatic Gale Joined: Posts: 3,237
    That one in the red is Arsene, the main character's Persona.
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  • The DamnedThe Damned Hope: You can't believe in it Joined: Posts: 10,781 mod
    (I'm surprised there wasn't a thread for this already. Huh.)

    I hadn't heard that that was a new Shin Megami Tensei game coming out. That's good to hear despite never playing any of them since I know a lot of the fans of that series felt that it was getting screwed over by the explosive popularity of Persona 3 and then, especially, of Persona 4.

    I don't really have any opinions about the third game at this time.
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  • The MartianThe Martian We Out Here. Joined: Posts: 12,263
    So pumped for 5. I love the protagonist's design, the supporting cast looks awesome too. I beat P3P a few times (not hard mode yet) and I'm currently playing through P4: Golden but I haven't actually gotten that far yet. I recently got SMT 4 as well for my 3DS but I've only been going back to it every now and then. Those games are a lot harder to get into (for me at least) but I'm enjoying both a ton.

    Also, my waifu beats your waifu.

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  • ChiroChiro Not actually pronounced cheero Joined: Posts: 2,160
    I dont see anyone in that picture with their face obscured...I'm assuming the dude dead center and in the back is a Persona...Could be wrong tho.

    i was referring to this
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  • ExposedDExposedD NO SQUIGGERINO Joined: Posts: 6,398
    Played both innocent sin and eternal punishment on emulator before. Haven't played the first persona game (revelations) tho.
    affinity wrote: »
    I mean, you can't even play as a cat in that game. wtf. it's 2017.
    chadouken! wrote: »
    It's called Sonic the Fucking Hedgehog, not Sonic the Cat, you dumb bitch.
  • Tekno VirusTekno Virus small man big strength Joined: Posts: 8,705
    The only game I've played is Strange Journey. Are all of them very grind heavy? I got burnt out towards the end from all that grinding.
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  • The DamnedThe Damned Hope: You can't believe in it Joined: Posts: 10,781 mod
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    (Probably. They are all RPGs and are more merciless than most other RPGs are given Atlus is notorious for being "Harder than Hell" difficulty wise.)

    Ironically, to juxtapose what ExposedD just said, the only game I've played of any of the series is the very first Persona game, which I still have never finished but enjoyed for how far I got despite going in utterly blind over a decade ago.
    "Well, see, the real magic isn't believing in yourself. The real magic is manipulating people by telling them to believe in themselves. The more you believe, the less you check facts."
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    "Freddie experienced the sort of abysmal soul-sadness which afflicts one of Tolstoy's Russian peasants when, after putting in a heavy day's work strangling his father, beating his wife, and dropping the baby into the city's reservoir, he turns to the cupboards, only to find the vodka bottle empty."
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  • NeloVergilNeloVergil Joined: Posts: 3,032
    So pumped for 5. I love the protagonist's design, the supporting cast looks awesome too. I beat P3P a few times (not hard mode yet) and I'm currently playing through P4: Golden but I haven't actually gotten that far yet. I recently got SMT 4 as well for my 3DS but I've only been going back to it every now and then. Those games are a lot harder to get into (for me at least) but I'm enjoying both a ton.

    Also, my waifu beats your waifu.

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    Aigis beats Yukari this is cannon
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  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,611
    NeloVergil wrote: »
    So pumped for 5. I love the protagonist's design, the supporting cast looks awesome too. I beat P3P a few times (not hard mode yet) and I'm currently playing through P4: Golden but I haven't actually gotten that far yet. I recently got SMT 4 as well for my 3DS but I've only been going back to it every now and then. Those games are a lot harder to get into (for me at least) but I'm enjoying both a ton.

    Also, my waifu beats your waifu.

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    Aigis beats Yukari this is cannon
    Typical.
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  • Half BreedHalf Breed Beast Unleashed Joined: Posts: 141


    Found a pretty good breakdown video of the new trailer.
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    I'm still amused that the new SMT is called SMT4: Apocalypse, as if the others didn't feature the end of the world...
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  • NeloVergilNeloVergil Joined: Posts: 3,032
    NeloVergil wrote: »
    So pumped for 5. I love the protagonist's design, the supporting cast looks awesome too. I beat P3P a few times (not hard mode yet) and I'm currently playing through P4: Golden but I haven't actually gotten that far yet. I recently got SMT 4 as well for my 3DS but I've only been going back to it every now and then. Those games are a lot harder to get into (for me at least) but I'm enjoying both a ton.

    Also, my waifu beats your waifu.

    tumblr_inline_nga2diJcK21t2gnmj.png

    hrd5J9a.gif

    Aigis beats Yukari this is cannon
    Typical.

    Did you expect anything less? Were you expecting a Yuko?
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    Btw sincd i'm off the LTE grid can anyone lemme know if the trailer has any P3/P4 references or is it all P5?
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  • ChiroChiro Not actually pronounced cheero Joined: Posts: 2,160
    edited May 2016
    Half Breed wrote: »


    Found a pretty good breakdown video of the new trailer.

    thanks for the vid though Nuclear is basically a form of Almighty from what i can dig up. what does that have to do with enemies being susceptible to ailments?
    NeloVergil wrote: »
    Btw sincd i'm off the LTE grid can anyone lemme know if the trailer has any P3/P4 references or is it all P5?

    well people are suggesting the mysterious 4th guy could be any of the brown haired guys from previous game. Kan, Yosuke, hell some are even suggesting the first persona protagonist.
  • NeloVergilNeloVergil Joined: Posts: 3,032
    Can anyone remember if the theme for P5 is actually the 7 deadly sins (P3 was death or rather the inevitability of it)? Or what the current tarot deck their using is? Knowing which tarot deck could actually give alot of insight to the theme and story.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,315
    P3, P4 and the MMO are the only SMT games I really played. A friend loan me Strange Journey but I couldn't get past the slow beginning.
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  • NeloVergilNeloVergil Joined: Posts: 3,032
    P3, P4 and the MMO are the only SMT games I really played. A friend loan me Strange Journey but I couldn't get past the slow beginning.

    How was that sleeping table/world balance in P3?
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  • DarkstalkerDarkstalker King of the Ring Joined: Posts: 2,470 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    P3, P4 and the MMO are the only SMT games I really played. A friend loan me Strange Journey but I couldn't get past the slow beginning.

    If you like P3/P4's Once More system, you might want to check out SMT: Nocturne or the Digital Devil Saga games. They have a more defensive version of that battle system.

    Nocturne - demon collection ala Pokemon, after the apocalypse story
    DDS 1 and 2 - permanent party members that can swap skills in and out, world in a constant state of war

    Note that the games all have dungeons that can get lengthy, but not at the start of the game. They're also not randomised like P3/P4 and are handcrafted, which also includes tricks, traps, etc - but those only come mid to late game, and aren't too overboard with it, unlike Strange Journey and its fucking sector E.
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