MGTOW Chronicles:Men Going Their Own Way

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  • Evolution169Evolution169 Wake up DP is unbeatable Joined: Posts: 1,078
    Starhammer wrote: »
    Buying a drink isn't getting played unless you think buying a woman a drink guarantees sex. I know guys who do think that way, but they are just naive or dumb.

    Here's the scenario. Some chick comes up to you at the bar and starts chatting with you. then she asks you to buy her a drink, which you do. She immediately picks it up and goes over to another table with a guy that you would later realize is the same guy she walked in with. That looks, sounds, and smells like getting played to me. Of course, it's his fault for being naive or dumb.

    -Starhammer-

    Oh please, that's not something that happens often, unless it's some new trend I don't know about. That sounds more like paranoia to me. Reminds me of the feminists who claim that most men are rapists just because some are.
  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    It happens quite a bit, just not in so much of an obvious way.

    Between the lines, read.
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • Evolution169Evolution169 Wake up DP is unbeatable Joined: Posts: 1,078
    Dime_x wrote: »
    It happens quite a bit, just not in so much of an obvious way.

    Between the lines, read.
    Define quite a bit. Like, if you went to a bar/club twice a week, how many times would it happen to you? I've had it happen maybe twice to me where a woman kinda snuck away after getting a few free drinks in like 10 years.
  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    Probably around about half the time I've been at clubs and also met new chicks, there's been some random chick that ain't drinking tonight (till you or someone else buys her a drink) or who doesn't have money tonight, or who for some reason ain't feeling it till someone buys her a drink.

    Dudes are like this as well so it's not a female only thing, but they use their "advantages" to their advantage.
    Naturally.
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,881
    edited May 7
    I never buy girls drinks. Too expensive.

    I Dont go to clubs either tho.
    It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,981
    Starhammer wrote: »
    Buying a drink isn't getting played unless you think buying a woman a drink guarantees sex. I know guys who do think that way, but they are just naive or dumb.

    Here's the scenario. Some chick comes up to you at the bar and starts chatting with you. then she asks you to buy her a drink, which you do. She immediately picks it up and goes over to another table with a guy that you would later realize is the same guy she walked in with. That looks, sounds, and smells like getting played to me. Of course, it's his fault for being naive or dumb.

    -Starhammer-

    Oh please, that's not something that happens often, unless it's some new trend I don't know about. That sounds more like paranoia to me. Reminds me of the feminists who claim that most men are rapists just because some are.

    Don't worry about it. Seems like his paranoia has taken hold instead of just staying in reallity that nobody wants to touch him.
  • ElderGODElderGOD GOD Joined: Posts: 9,800
    Dime_x wrote: »
    I e always thought of buying a drink as guaranteeing around 5 minutes of talk time.

    If a girl is interested in you she will find a way to talk to you regardless if you buy her a drink or not.
  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    edited May 7
    ElderGOD wrote: »
    Dime_x wrote: »
    I e always thought of buying a drink as guaranteeing around 5 minutes of talk time.

    If a girl is interested in you she will find a way to talk to you regardless if you buy her a drink or not.

    Wrong. Lots of women aren't interested in guys till they talk to them. Talking is what tends to open up a woman's legs, not what you look like, unless you are a model, even then you need to have them verbals or you will be like me when I was young and good looking but without game... pussieless.

    This is elementary so I'm not going to go into it any more than that.
    J-ride wrote: »
    I've never gotten anywhere with a random woman by buying her a drink. I think it is an absolute waste of money because women will take the drink and run and hide in their group of friends. Even approaching women is usually difficult in clubs because it so fucking loud you can barely even chat with them.

    Fun fact, I met my wife by buying her a drink at the club and it lead to 6 years of great sex and 2 beautiful children.

    Buying drinks usually isn't the way to go, but it can work.
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • J-rideJ-ride OG Member Joined: Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    To be honest being successful>>>>game. I've had women come all throughout the woodwork because I was a small town guy who did really well for himself. I've had all kinds of random facebook messages from women who never gave me the time of day in HS, but all of a sudden remembered what a great guy I was. Pffft, whatever hoe.
    Woman was created for our destruction, and it is from her we inherit all of our miseries.

    Aramis from The Three Musketeers
  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    Its all about materialism when it comes to majority of women.

    Those women messaging you on facebook where going to fuck: chad, tyrone, and juan behind your back to. You dont get off the cock carousel once your on it.



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  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    edited May 8
    J-ride wrote: »
    To be honest being successful>>>>game.

    This isn't fully correct. Unfortunately unless you've ever actually had some decent game, you really wouldn't know. I've studied and more importantly, applied game from around '04-'10 I started out with weakshit game, thinking I actually had some, to actually developing game. I was never "A" level by any means, probably mid tier at best, but I studied just about every facet of written game I could find from hypnosis to mystery method, to bad boy to style to juggler method, David deangelo cocky funny etc etc etc. you probably don't know what all that shit is. Don't worry it isn't important, just... I've studied and put alot of thought (and effort) into this and piggy backed on much greater minds and experience than just myself and I actually find it to be sort of a hobby to talk about stuff like this.

    The truth is that neither success or game really trump the other. It all depends on your level of success and your level of game. For most dudes, they don't actually have ANY game, so ANY success they get is going to be better than their game. It all comes down to what you have a particular expertise in.

    I had some success as a youngn' learned a trade, bought my own brand new car, had my own place. It works. Having that level of success at an early age gets you the ladies. But that success was fleeting for me. I crashed my car, lost my job, and had to move in with friends.

    Game stays with you, to a certain extent. I surprised myself and went out with some homies a couple of years back, 4 years not running basically any game. Chatted up loads of chicks at the bar. One 2 set actually stuck and before I knew it I'm running a palm reading routine on one girl, my friend is in disbelief at seeing how much the chicks light up seeing the palm reading, the notty was the one I was reading, a straight 5, I just wanted a quick little make out and I would have been good, but the hotty immediately upon seeing the notty get attention, decided she didn't like this palm reading thing and stated "that's total BS anyways, no one believes in that stuff (slight back turn) but the notty wasn't to be so easily dissuaded and so I went through the Schtick with the hotty constantly putting it down to a certain extent... bla bla bla... I know the score though, been here plenty of times in the past. I ignore her and plow with the notty for about 5 minutes, turn the notty on by touching her hand and shit telling her she has good times in store for her future (hint hint)... really elementary shit. And so what happens as soon as I'm about to be done? The hotty that's been miffed the entire time and talking shit about the reading, decides she wants her palm read to... she shouts with a huge smile "DO ME! DO ME!

    I replied flatly "sorry,I only do one palm read a night"

    Fucking slayed her. She was putty in my hands the rest of the night. They invited us to their place for "drinks" (it was like midnight and the hotty was stone sober) I grabbed the hotties ass and she was totally fine with it, looked back and smiled. My friend ended up fucking the notty. I could have fucked the hotty, but I'm a married man and didn't plan on ever taking it this far to actually go to the chicks place... so I politely excused myself and grabbed an uber home.

    Bla bla bla.

    This is hella OT though and I wasn't planning on writing all this out. If you want to argue with me some more or simply have some questions about game, just pm me.

    I want to at least try and respect starhammers thread, this is mgtow, not how to pick up women.
    I've only really talked about picking up women to illustrate how fucked society is, we/I shouldn't have to fucking run game or do corny shit like read palms to get bitches.

    That's why I can understand mgtow and appreciate a thread like this.

    Keep it coming @starhammer I listen to most of the videos that you link in here.
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    money buys you almost anything and is far superior to game in terms of input vs output provided you aren't a complete sperg (Elliot Rodger). money does not buy you loyalty however, and anybody using money to do work should understand that there are huge risks and there needs to be additional input. I know many dudes fail to understand this, and if they get some broad are all butthurt when they learn that their woman was a whore or is currently still whoring herself out. Some dudes are fine with this, but i'd wager that's its exclusive almost entirely to older dudes (clippers ex-owner)

    game (psychological manipulation) is what gets you in provided you don't have money. see



    money >> game if your end goal is to stick your dick in as much pussy as possible.

    ____

    Honestly, the more interesting question is what combination of game and money gets you loyalty, and commitment [physiological manipulation being a key component in ensuring long term relationships]. Core Series, if he is who he says he is, presents himself as a 10 out 10 in terms of cash and "game", and would explain why his women behaves like that. He's emotionally manipulated her, and gave her no materialistic reason for her to leave.

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  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    feel free to pm me if you want to further this convo, I won't respond in this thread anymore as it is very off topic, unless @starhammer says it's ok.

    I'm happy to discuss this via pm though.
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    It's all good mang. :tup:

    I've pretty much said my piece on the whole "game" business. I personally do not believe that any amount of "game" will save a guy in the end with the way society is right now. It's a rotten deal for any man who enters and I just want my SRK brothers to at least have a place to learn at least why I think so. speaking of which................



    :rofl: They are scurred. they are REALLY scurred............................Of this.

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    -Starhammer-
    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

    AV by Rick Ross.
  • J-rideJ-ride OG Member Joined: Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    LOL @ that sexbot video, so much salt! What a time to be alive!
    Woman was created for our destruction, and it is from her we inherit all of our miseries.

    Aramis from The Three Musketeers
  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    Sexbots weird me the fuck out. But I like em cause they make feminists lose their shit.

    I might even fuck one if a feminist was watching :)
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • J-rideJ-ride OG Member Joined: Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited May 8
    I don't have an issue with the sexbots, but for years the feminists complained about male/female relationships being "rape" because of the power difference between men and women. So...
    1. Guys just say fuck it and have sex with an inanitimate object and leave women alone
    2. Feminists now are pissed off that men don't want relationships with someone that hates them deep down for being men
    3. Hilarity ensues
    Woman was created for our destruction, and it is from her we inherit all of our miseries.

    Aramis from The Three Musketeers
  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    Women have never and will never knkw what they want other than,

    I want kids now and somebody to provide resources
    I want to be fucked now by this type of dude
    Im miserable i want something new

    Very few of them know exactly what they want.

    Feminism hasnt made them happier, having acess to high end jibs hasnt made them happier, inxreasing political clout hasnt madr them happy, being independent hasnt made them happier, being allowed to be sexually free hasnt made them happier, being bought all the shit they want doesnt make them happy.

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    Complete my life Capcom, and make a Megaman Legends 3 exclusive for PS4. Do it, do it for the glory that should be and would be.
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    lol. :rofl: Yep. Ol' blowjob face is throwing quite the bag of wrenches into their little hate machine. As it is Monday, here's a vid from a guy who has his view as to why the feminists are what they are and how to win.



    -Starhammer-
    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

    AV by Rick Ross.
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG


    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    -Starhammer-
    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

    AV by Rick Ross.
  • J-rideJ-ride OG Member Joined: Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Cultural Marxism is the path to hell paved with Ivy league degrees that Thomas Sowell spoke about in his book "Vision of the Annointed." I'm glad my life is half over, but my kids are going to be completely fucked. I'm not even sure what to really do because those buffoons are on the verge of burning the entire Western world to the ground. South America is looking more appealing every single day!
    Woman was created for our destruction, and it is from her we inherit all of our miseries.

    Aramis from The Three Musketeers
  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    The primary problem that I see here is that capitalism did this to itself. So how can we tout something this easily lead astray by sjw's and pussy beggars, to be the greatest political system ever invented?

    I mean the success of the '50's was directly followed by the '60's free love ho'in gettin pregnant not knowing who the dad is "enlightenment" aka Woodstock hippie shit directly leading into the 80's and some of the worst gang violence our country has ever seen.


    And the kids from the '80's (of which I am one) are the shitheads that taught these millenials all this gender bullshit.

    Idk wtf the kids in my classes were smokin but when I was in class we were taught gun rights, freedom of speech, Boston tea party, the Magna Carta, Monroe doctrine etc etc etc


    Not cis gendered tri sexual post op furry with a penchant for playing the 40 year old regressed baby to 60 year old parents stuff we got going on now.


    Like I'm seriously WTF with this shit.
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • J-rideJ-ride OG Member Joined: Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I think the destruction of the family and rise of the welfare state is mostly to blame. People are so subverted with Marxist false equivalence that they can't see what history has already taught us. I do think that the middle class was harvested by some really poor political decisions in the 60s-90s. America was/is a great country and it will inevitably be destroyed by the vile product created from her own college system combined with "empowered" female voters. I have very little hope for anything positive to come, but I have met some Gen Z kids who are red pilled as fuck and are ready to fight for their nation. Matriarchies do not have the moral clarity or judgement to accurately determine hostile threats the way a Patriarchy does which is why female voters are putting the Republic in danger. My wife's family fled Iran and even her own friends argue with her about how wonderful Islam is and why we should import more refugees. The fact that women are even advocating for that system just shows how fucking mentally retarded they are.
    Woman was created for our destruction, and it is from her we inherit all of our miseries.

    Aramis from The Three Musketeers
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I know some of you in here are dads, or you are soon to be dads. If you're not, you probably know someone in that position. Watch this and spread the word.



    Ironically, I do remember that teacher from my own past. Ms. Brown. :tdown: What a BITCH.

    -Starhammer-
    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

    AV by Rick Ross.
  • ElderGODElderGOD GOD Joined: Posts: 9,800
    J-ride wrote: »
    My wife's family fled Iran and even her own friends argue with her about how wonderful Islam is and why we should import more refugees. The fact that women are even advocating for that system just shows how fucking mentally retarded they are.

    Anyone talking about how great Sharia Law is should be forced to live where it's practiced.

    I've been to a number of different countries, American women are by far the least intelligent.

    I guess this is what happens when you receive a liberal education that removes critical thinking from the classroom.
    J-ride wrote: »
    I think the destruction of the family and rise of the welfare state is mostly to blame. People are so subverted with Marxist false equivalence that they can't see what history has already taught us.
    It's amazing how liberal policies are destroying families. What's more amazing is that blacks appear to be most affected by this but they voted in mass for Obama's second term, who has done so much damage to them.


    America was the go to escape for people looking to escape Islam, communism, Nazis, etc, but thanks to the ignorant new generation that will change.
  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    edited May 9
    I really don't like saying it, but women being allowed to vote was fucking mistake.

    then again, when people say freedom isn't free, this is the kind of shit that makes freedom cost a lot.
    Starhammer wrote: »
    I know some of you in here are dads, or you are soon to be dads. If you're not, you probably know someone in that position. Watch this and spread the word.



    Ironically, I do remember that teacher from my own past. Ms. Brown. :tdown: What a BITCH.

    -Starhammer-

    I used to have this fat land whale for a teacher in the third grade.

    She suspended me one time because me and a friend where using our hands to role play as diplicous during "silent" time. We never made no fucking noises, nor interupted anybody other than her peace.

    Another time, she "wrote me up" becasue she told me to redo something and i sighed and walked away hurridly because I didn't want to deal with her shit and just wanted to redo this as fast as possible becasue it was fucking lame.

    She made it seem like I stomped on the fucking floor and gave a tantrum and glared at her. LIKE WTF

    The height of her fucking irrationality was when she wanted me to go to counciling because I refused to listen to her when it came down to writing. I've always written at an angle that's more than 45 degree's. Always, because that's how I maximized my penmanship, and i've always taken pride in my penmanship. She fucking taped a black paper and told me to write at 0 degree's, with a slight angle being the most I could do becuase any more and it wasn't normal.

    Her fucking weight wasn't normal. Fuck public schools, it's a cancer and something I will look heavily into when it comes time to send kids to schools. NO fucking commie piece of shit is indoctrinating my kid and going to force drugs becasue the feelings and emotional needs of some overgrown fucking loser arne't being met.
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  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    edited May 9
    I've had a lot of shit done to me, but probably the one thing that really stuck with me in life, though I haven't thought of it in at least a decade, was when I was getting reprimanded in first grade for something dumb like not turning in my homework or not answering a question correctly... or some innocuous shit like that... the teacher had me get up in front of the entire class, all of whom were white while I was the only black kid and told them to laugh at me.

    Yep, just straight up said look how dumb this motherfucker is, he deserves to be laughed at. Then sat me in the front of the room with all the kids laughing at me I was humiliated of course. Never forgot the sting that that caused, the tears running down my cheeks, I was the new kid in school as well, only had like 2 weeks in at that point, no other kids were punished that way, it's jus the stupid bitch teacher had some kind of a hard on for me. Maybe it was because I was black, wouldn't surprise me.


    But people wonder why kids have thick skin.

    Out of all the horrible shit I've had done to me in elementary school that's the one that really stuck. I've been kicked, punched, spat on, called various black racial slurs such as burnt toast and the n word and coal boy, I've had rocks thrown at me by racist kids... but what that teacher did to me hurt more than anything else by a wide margin. A person who I'm supposed to trust and who is supposed to be looking out for my best interests could do something like that.

    If I ever saw her again, I wouldn't hesitate to knock the old bitch out. Wouldn't recognise her though, but still.

    I actually went on to be one of the more popular kids after that class in second grade on up to 4th grade... but yeah, teachers can be fucking terrible.

    I feel lucky growing up though because only that and 1 other teacher I met were really bad teachers.

    Most teachers I met throughout my time of going to school ranged from ok to straight up awesome... till I got to high school and they turned to shit again because to many kinds to notice.
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • PristineButtonsPristineButtons Joined: Posts: 247
    edited May 9
    "pedoviejo wrote: »
    Fuck public schools, it's a cancer and something I will look heavily into when it comes time to send kids to schools. NO fucking commie piece of shit is indoctrinating my kid and going to force drugs becasue the feelings and emotional needs of some overgrown fucking loser arne't being met.
    This is a bit off topic, but we're here so fuck it.
    If you've ever seen The Wire, basically all public schools nation wide are like the inner city one depicted in season 4 of that show. The students are no longer the focus and are instead just a simple cog in a larger, piece of shit machine that doesn't care about them at all. They have been reduced to test takers. That's the one and only agenda: high test scores = government funding so the school system overall can retain as many jobs as possible.
    They can and will try to convince you your child needs medication if they see them as a potential low test score. Some low key new world order type shit.
    Sorry for the slight derail.
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG

    pedoviejo wrote: »
    I really don't like saying it, but women being allowed to vote was fucking mistake.

    then again, when people say freedom isn't free, this is the kind of shit that makes freedom cost a lot.
    Starhammer wrote: »
    I know some of you in here are dads, or you are soon to be dads. If you're not, you probably know someone in that position. Watch this and spread the word.



    Ironically, I do remember that teacher from my own past. Ms. Brown. :tdown: What a BITCH.

    -Starhammer-

    I used to have this fat land whale for a teacher in the third grade.

    She suspended me one time because me and a friend where using our hands to role play as diplicous during "silent" time. We never made no fucking noises, nor interupted anybody other than her peace.

    Another time, she "wrote me up" becasue she told me to redo something and i sighed and walked away hurridly because I didn't want to deal with her shit and just wanted to redo this as fast as possible becasue it was fucking lame.

    She made it seem like I stomped on the fucking floor and gave a tantrum and glared at her. LIKE WTF

    The height of her fucking irrationality was when she wanted me to go to counciling because I refused to listen to her when it came down to writing. I've always written at an angle that's more than 45 degree's. Always, because that's how I maximized my penmanship, and i've always taken pride in my penmanship. She fucking taped a black paper and told me to write at 0 degree's, with a slight angle being the most I could do becuase any more and it wasn't normal.

    Her fucking weight wasn't normal. Fuck public schools, it's a cancer and something I will look heavily into when it comes time to send kids to schools. NO fucking commie piece of shit is indoctrinating my kid and going to force drugs becasue the feelings and emotional needs of some overgrown fucking loser arne't being met.

    I know how you feel. I hate to think this way too, but I can't help but see the logic of it. I still feel like maybe schools should be segregated. guys go one way, girls to the other one. Knowing that society willingly does this to their own kids makes me sick and I would absolutely refuse to send my children to the public schools as they are today.

    Yeah. The more I look back, the less I like my school. Class reunion would be hell on earth for everyone if I had to go back.



    Now this one is more MGTOW, as is per usual for Sandman. It's kinda funny how I never put two and two together on this one, but I somehow always knew.

    -Starhammer-
    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

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  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    a sad story from a YouTuber called The Red Pill Ghost. He learned from his friend.



    -Starhammer-
    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

    AV by Rick Ross.
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    -Starhammer-
    Always think it's strange when black dudes accuse other black dudes of not being hood enough. Like isn't that a good thing?

    AV by Rick Ross.
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    Again, he agrees the situation is terrible but doesn't like young men avoiding the risks? What does he expect them to do exactly?
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  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    @tataki

    Weren't you a feminist just a little while ago?

    I know specs is just fucking beyond redemption, but I thought you and he were like eye to eye on that shit... what happened?
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    tataki wrote: »

    Again, he agrees the situation is terrible but doesn't like young men avoiding the risks? What does he expect them to do exactly?

    Probably the same thing that I more or less expect them to do, not give up on society, but campaign and raise awareness.. which they are doing, but the awareness is to leave society, not to make society better.

    That's the distinction.

    He wants the young men to galvanize themselves and assert dominance over the womanhood via their superior intellect and logic skills and bring women back in line with what will more make them happy.

    It won't be easy and there will be casualties on both sides, martyrs if you will. But it is ultimately up to the man to make society whole again after the fracturing process that is feminism has done what it's done.

    MGTOW as a whole though has been so badly burnt that they are near the same side as feminism just the exact opposite.

    That isn't good for our society as a whole.

    MGTOW Is understandable, but it's message isn't one that I will help to spread. It is however a movement that I will stand next to my brothers and say "I'm here for you, man"
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    edited May 11
    tataki wrote: »


    Again, he agrees the situation is terrible but doesn't like young men avoiding the risks? What does he expect them to do exactly?

    to sort themselves out walk the fine line between chaos and order. Society and culture will fail if young men continue opting out, and we will be replaced by another soceity as we collapse from the inside becasue we didn't get our collective shit together. If you watch some of his other videos, he essentially advocates that the more intelligent partner has to train the other like a dog to respond to stimuli. Relationships are all about psychological manipulation and molding the other one into something worth loving. He also doesn't like how MGTOW is blackpilling kids into not attempting to sort themselves out, or creating a group of hedonistic degenerates, which is the real problem.

    Refusing to do something or at the very least attempting to walk the fine line, becoming the ubermensch, goes against his core thesis regarding society and where we are now. Refusal to do anything just leads to nihilism, and nihilism is what will destroy the west and ourselves as a people, nihilism is the greatest evil in todays societies. Its why he doesn't like marxists, communists, or people who ridicule religion and falsely believe taht abondaning religion will somehow advance the layman into some sort of enlightenment (pro tip, it wont)

    and I have to agree with him. To opt out is to not fight. Perhaps the men of today don't have to storm the beaches of fucking normandy, but the fight is more abstract against an abstact enemy that wants society to fail. If men in the past went to war and lived through that, then what excuse do men today have to not fight for their society back? I'm getting to the point where I refuse to be ruled by nihilism
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  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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    Dime_x wrote: »
    tataki wrote: »

    Again, he agrees the situation is terrible but doesn't like young men avoiding the risks? What does he expect them to do exactly?

    Probably the same thing that I more or less expect them to do, not give up on society, but campaign and raise awareness.. which they are doing, but the awareness is to leave society, not to make society better.

    That's the distinction.

    He wants the young men to galvanize themselves and assert dominance over the womanhood via their superior intellect and logic skills and bring women back in line with what will more make them happy.

    It won't be easy and there will be casualties on both sides, martyrs if you will. But it is ultimately up to the man to make society whole again after the fracturing process that is feminism has done what it's done.

    MGTOW as a whole though has been so badly burnt that they are near the same side as feminism just the exact opposite.

    That isn't good for our society as a whole.

    MGTOW Is understandable, but it's message isn't one that I will help to spread. It is however a movement that I will stand next to my brothers and say "I'm here for you, man"

    That's pretty much the main thing of the Men's Rights Advocates. I suggest checking out Paul Elam's A voice For Men. https://www.youtube.com/user/TheHappyMisogynist

    The whole,"MGTOW is just like feminism" argument has been invalidated numerous times. We're not the male version of Feminism. I don't need a bunch of laws passed in my favor. I don't care if women are ignoring me. I certainly don't need to falsify facts nor shut down people with differing opinions from mine. I also won't try to get you put in jail for saying something that hurts my feelings. The problem that MRAs are dealing with has always been two fold because they are facing both women AND men who are willing to sacrifice them. As I've listed before, it isn't JUST women, but the judicial system and even society itself that seems to be against men. Of course, some men have thrown other men into the fire so as to save themselves, not even aware of the fact that they're making the fire that much more uncontrollable. Sooner or later, things will come to a head and it will be bad. There will be a lot of casualties. There already has been, but they (society) have chosen to ignore them. One of the things about MGTOW is we're well aware of the impending doom. many of us are already prepared for it, and others are getting there day by day. It seems to me that the only way society will change course is after everything burns. For now I prepare for that fire and after it is over, then I'll see what comes next.

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  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,877
    Rise up, homie :tup:
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    tataki wrote: »


    Again, he agrees the situation is terrible but doesn't like young men avoiding the risks? What does he expect them to do exactly?

    to sort themselves out walk the fine line between chaos and order. Society and culture will fail if young men continue opting out, and we will be replaced by another soceity as we collapse from the inside becasue we didn't get our collective shit together. If you watch some of his other videos, he essentially advocates that the more intelligent partner has to train the other like a dog to respond to stimuli. Relationships are all about psychological manipulation and molding the other one into something worth loving. He also doesn't like how MGTOW is blackpilling kids into not attempting to sort themselves out, or creating a group of hedonistic degenerates, which is the real problem.

    Refusing to do something or at the very least attempting to walk the fine line, becoming the ubermensch, goes against his core thesis regarding society and where we are now. Refusal to do anything just leads to nihilism, and nihilism is what will destroy the west and ourselves as a people, nihilism is the greatest evil in todays societies. Its why he doesn't like marxists, communists, or people who ridicule religion and falsely believe taht abondaning religion will somehow advance the layman into some sort of enlightenment (pro tip, it wont)

    and I have to agree with him. To opt out is to not fight. Perhaps the men of today don't have to storm the beaches of fucking normandy, but the fight is more abstract against an abstact enemy that wants society to fail. If men in the past went to war and lived through that, then what excuse do men today have to not fight for their society back? I'm getting to the point where I refuse to be ruled by nihilism

    He wants young men to sort themselves out? We're doing that. Men Going Their Own Way. It might not be the way that others want them to go, but that's how it is.

    Society and culture will fail if young men continue opting out? Yep. If I don't like the society, I won't support it. I will never tell anyone to support something they don't like.

    I didn't watch that video you're talking about, but WTF? Train the other like a dog? Aw hell to the NO. I can accept flaws and shortcomings, and I'm willing to help people out, But I am NOT an animal trainer. I'm a human, and I expect that my woman is to be one as well. I don't want some chick to learn how to be my woman. I want her to know how to be herself. If she wants to change FOR me, then that is her business and the right she has as a human being. Me? I would respect and defend her right to do so. Unfortunately, this present society thinks that you as a man should do all and receive little or nothing for it. This is one of the main reasons why I don't do relationships. :tdown:


    LOL@ Storming the beaches of Normandy. If I remember correctly, that was a bunch of volunteers. Also, I have been told that women of that time had a bit more respect for their men. MGTOW doesn't want for society to fail, most of us just don't care if it does. Men have been the builders and protectors of society since the very beginning. Now, they are shunned, shamed, and put down upon at every turn by that society. I say let it burn. We've built this one. We can build another one. If anything, we'll learn from these mistakes and make it even better. Either way, the future is going to be quite interesting.

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  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    embracing nihilism isnt sorting yourself out, that's the crutch of his argument. Nihilism will lead to the breakdown of society, by opting out you embrace nihilism, therfore you arent sorting yourself out. Thats what hes arguing for


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