Alright FINALLY going to get the ball rolling with this matchup chart thing. Wanted to wait for the new character to be revealed and generally get a chance to really think about the matchups for myself so I can have a starting point to conjecture with everyone else.
Gonna lay some ground rules
here so it doesn't turn into the SFV Lounge 2 like the balance thread did. If you MUST talk about the things below, please TAKE IT TO THE LOUNGE. It will not be tolerated here.
Please don't get into stupid ass SFIV vs SFV wars or whatever wars you wanna get into.
3rd Strike vs SFIV lasted long enough, SFIV vs SFV doesn't need to last anywhere near as long. Don't bring up other SF games unless you just need to make a pure observance of something between the games. We don't need pages of which SF game is great for you or which one is giving you growing pains and hurting your relationship with your friends and family.
Please refrain from overly positive or negative talk about the game in general.
If SFV has saved your life, that's great. Don't need to know that. SFV is killing what makes SF fundamental for you? Great, don't need to know that. This thread is for objectively talking about matchups and strategies for the game. It's not meant to be a diary for your SF shit. That's what the lounge is for.
Please also keep large lists of your ideas for improvements for the balance to the improvements thread or the lounge.
Theoretical added balance changes generally just derail discussion on what is actually going on with the game and generally get into unnecessary back and forth conversations that don't really explain the current meta. Bringing up a thing or two that needs to be touched up for a character is ok, but we don't need long ass lists and discussions about things that aren't within SFV's competitive reality.
You have your warning.
There will be a VERY LOW tolerance policy for the shit above. It derails threads like this way too easily so it's not going to be put up with. General requests to fix things if you are messing up will be forwarded. If not, mods will have to get involved.
Other than that, hope to get some good discussion and hope we'll be able to keep up with everything since we'll be getting new characters pretty regularly throughout the life of the game.
I decided the games been out long enough and since there hasn't been a lot of matchup based tiers going on about the game on different sites, might as well do it. Especially since people believe matchups bring out the overall strength of a character better than just conjuring strengths and weaknesses.
posted up a mock up chart of matchups that he will help us put together once everyone is done conjecturing.
Basically what I'm looking for is volunteers to discuss and analyze the matchups for specific characters.
People who play similar characters can have a meeting in their character thread or just PM each other and discuss the matchup numbers. Then compare the numbers with people who play the other characters and come to a hopeful common ground to make a list.
I won't COMPLETELY disregard the DLC characters, although I think it'll probably be easier to come up with DLC data for Alex and Guile than say for Boxer, Ibuki or Juri who are still really really fresh. The idea will be to come up with a list for the characters that have been around since launch or soon after launch and then we can always go back over the DLC characters as more time goes. Better to at least keep the discussion and matchup analyzing open for them them to just bar them from discussion I feel.
I'll make a list of each character and people can post and volunteer to put their names up as as an analyst. When most of the list is filled with a decent amount of players people can conjecture and come up with numbers and reports on different matchups for their characters.
Alex: @Hawkingbird @serpentaurus
Balrog: @Plaid_Unicorn @TheCrimsonPugilist
Cammy: @Necrotrophic @Ramma @ShinLad
Chun Li: @DevilJin 01 @Dime_x @Froztey
Dhalsim: @Cheech Wizard @Marmalade_Jones
F.A.N.G: @Cheech Wizard
Ibuki: @DevilJin 01 @serpentaurus
Juri: @Trife88 @eiSH
Ken: @LoyalSol @LordWilliam1234
Laura: @OceanSalt @Los
M. Bison: @Plaid_Unicorn @Zeniside
R. Mika: @Trife88
Vega: @Rugalitarian @Veserius @serpentaurus
Zangief: @LoyalSol @Mesenkomaha
see @Slaynman @Marsh_D_Teach