NFL Thread: The Raiders will be moving to LasVegas. #blackhole2gloryhole

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  • FrostyAUFrostyAU Lynx in your sinks Joined: Posts: 8,144
    NeloVergil wrote: »
    @NeloVergil I don't call it bragging just that you can't expect to just out score these elite teams and win. So far the Chiefs halted that offense and we all saw what happened to the Raiders in both encounters. Hence why I said I see the Raiders being a year away after some fixes to that defense. I completely agree with Donald Penn being out was huge loss and it showed.

    purbeast wrote: »
    Snatcher wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the Titans or Texans have substantial changes coming in the offseason? I thought Tennessee had upset potential for the postseason if they had made it until Mariota got hurt.

    I've heard the Texans and Bill O'Brien are on shaky terms so you could see them part ways.

    That internal power struggle between him and Rick Smith has been the rumored root of it. Problem is BoB is already in a hole since Rick Smith is a godfather to one of McNairs kids.

    They need an OC badly though.

    Hey man you never know. I will say though that we're a really good defense away from being AFC championship contenders on a year by year basis. This year we had the same problem as last year where our corners gave up big plays on 3rd downs, TEs gashed us up the middle, and a lack of pressure from the outside. Dunno if its a player or scheme thing, but if these problem persist then I thin this'll be the end of the KNJ experiment.

    On offense we're still missing a good TE who can catch and block. Not to mention depth at OL and our run blocking has been suspect at points. When we needed the run because Carr can't get things started the OL gets suspect sometimes. Hopefully this offseason we focus on depth on offense, LBs, and depth at the line (especially interior). Our struggles with TEs are more important than the our problems at DB to me.

    I think the scheme is part of the problem since they would try a zone and the TE would find the middle with little to no problems something the Texans took advantage of a few times. I wouldn't be surprised if they give Bouye our corner a look at given that his contract is up this year, and it looks like you guys will let Hayden walk.

    AJ is in a contract year but he's restricted. Texans have first dibs. Johnathan Joseph isn't young and even though we have Johnson coming back from injuries we'd be stupid to let AJ walk. AJ matches well on tight ends because of his physical play nature. He's great in press coverage as well.
  • Grimmjow316Grimmjow316 Huracán Salvadoreño Joined: Posts: 7,477
    FrostyAU wrote: »
    NeloVergil wrote: »
    @NeloVergil I don't call it bragging just that you can't expect to just out score these elite teams and win. So far the Chiefs halted that offense and we all saw what happened to the Raiders in both encounters. Hence why I said I see the Raiders being a year away after some fixes to that defense. I completely agree with Donald Penn being out was huge loss and it showed.

    purbeast wrote: »
    Snatcher wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the Titans or Texans have substantial changes coming in the offseason? I thought Tennessee had upset potential for the postseason if they had made it until Mariota got hurt.

    I've heard the Texans and Bill O'Brien are on shaky terms so you could see them part ways.

    That internal power struggle between him and Rick Smith has been the rumored root of it. Problem is BoB is already in a hole since Rick Smith is a godfather to one of McNairs kids.

    They need an OC badly though.

    Hey man you never know. I will say though that we're a really good defense away from being AFC championship contenders on a year by year basis. This year we had the same problem as last year where our corners gave up big plays on 3rd downs, TEs gashed us up the middle, and a lack of pressure from the outside. Dunno if its a player or scheme thing, but if these problem persist then I thin this'll be the end of the KNJ experiment.

    On offense we're still missing a good TE who can catch and block. Not to mention depth at OL and our run blocking has been suspect at points. When we needed the run because Carr can't get things started the OL gets suspect sometimes. Hopefully this offseason we focus on depth on offense, LBs, and depth at the line (especially interior). Our struggles with TEs are more important than the our problems at DB to me.

    I think the scheme is part of the problem since they would try a zone and the TE would find the middle with little to no problems something the Texans took advantage of a few times. I wouldn't be surprised if they give Bouye our corner a look at given that his contract is up this year, and it looks like you guys will let Hayden walk.

    AJ is in a contract year but he's restricted. Texans have first dibs. Johnathan Joseph isn't young and even though we have Johnson coming back from injuries we'd be stupid to let AJ walk. AJ matches well on tight ends because of his physical play nature. He's great in press coverage as well.

    Oh I know he's really good the problem comes down to Rick Smith. Because you can't keep everyone the issue is will he be loyal to JJo despite him being up there in years or will he do what a good GM is supposed to do sign the corner who is young and has shown tremendous growth while telling JJo thank you for the great years you've given us but it's time to part ways. Remember there is still the looming extension with Hopkins that he can't escape.

    I say this since Rick has shown to be a loyalist more than not.
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  • Terry_nbTerry_nb ... Joined: Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited January 14
    Anyone have a good link to learn about tactics in this game?
    SFA 4 needs to be made ...
  • FrostyAUFrostyAU Lynx in your sinks Joined: Posts: 8,144
    FrostyAU wrote: »
    NeloVergil wrote: »
    @NeloVergil I don't call it bragging just that you can't expect to just out score these elite teams and win. So far the Chiefs halted that offense and we all saw what happened to the Raiders in both encounters. Hence why I said I see the Raiders being a year away after some fixes to that defense. I completely agree with Donald Penn being out was huge loss and it showed.

    purbeast wrote: »
    Snatcher wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the Titans or Texans have substantial changes coming in the offseason? I thought Tennessee had upset potential for the postseason if they had made it until Mariota got hurt.

    I've heard the Texans and Bill O'Brien are on shaky terms so you could see them part ways.

    That internal power struggle between him and Rick Smith has been the rumored root of it. Problem is BoB is already in a hole since Rick Smith is a godfather to one of McNairs kids.

    They need an OC badly though.

    Hey man you never know. I will say though that we're a really good defense away from being AFC championship contenders on a year by year basis. This year we had the same problem as last year where our corners gave up big plays on 3rd downs, TEs gashed us up the middle, and a lack of pressure from the outside. Dunno if its a player or scheme thing, but if these problem persist then I thin this'll be the end of the KNJ experiment.

    On offense we're still missing a good TE who can catch and block. Not to mention depth at OL and our run blocking has been suspect at points. When we needed the run because Carr can't get things started the OL gets suspect sometimes. Hopefully this offseason we focus on depth on offense, LBs, and depth at the line (especially interior). Our struggles with TEs are more important than the our problems at DB to me.

    I think the scheme is part of the problem since they would try a zone and the TE would find the middle with little to no problems something the Texans took advantage of a few times. I wouldn't be surprised if they give Bouye our corner a look at given that his contract is up this year, and it looks like you guys will let Hayden walk.

    AJ is in a contract year but he's restricted. Texans have first dibs. Johnathan Joseph isn't young and even though we have Johnson coming back from injuries we'd be stupid to let AJ walk. AJ matches well on tight ends because of his physical play nature. He's great in press coverage as well.

    Oh I know he's really good the problem comes down to Rick Smith. Because you can't keep everyone the issue is will he be loyal to JJo despite him being up there in years or will he do what a good GM is supposed to do sign the corner who is young and has shown tremendous growth while telling JJo thank you for the great years you've given us but it's time to part ways. Remember there is still the looming extension with Hopkins that he can't escape.

    I say this since Rick has shown to be a loyalist more than not.

    He had a history of it until recently when he let Andre go and Foster. Still a bit salty over both those not coming back for retirement conferences. Andre is going to the HoF and while Foster isn't he was my favourite back in football under Kubiak
  • FrostyAUFrostyAU Lynx in your sinks Joined: Posts: 8,144
    Terry_nb wrote: »
    Anyone have a good link to learn about tactics in this game?

    Wikipedia is pretty good for the basics but each team uses different strategies on offence and defence
  • chadouken!chadouken! less < more Joined: Posts: 5,034
    Who's ready for that Houston upset tonight?
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  • FrostyAUFrostyAU Lynx in your sinks Joined: Posts: 8,144
    chadouken! wrote: »
    Who's ready for that Houston upset tonight?

    Even I'm not betting on that and I'm one of the most optimistic people in this thread. It would make my year if it somehow happened though
  • NeloVergilNeloVergil Joined: Posts: 3,032
    a15kko wrote: »
    So Raiders let go of their OC and he goes to join the Broncos

    AS QB coach. It's just business my dude we were thinking about Wade Phillips and got Jack from the Broncos.
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  • purbeastpurbeast Joined: Posts: 4,730
    edited January 14
    FrostyAU wrote: »
    purbeast wrote: »
    The Texans are also in a shitty division. They won their division at 9-7. Not to diminish their division title, but they simply aren't that good of a team. It's similar to the Redskins getting in last year at 9-7 due to their shitty division then getting molly whopped in the first round against a team that was actually good. Only this time the Texans faced a team that was leaning on a 3rd stringer QB who has absolutely no experience.

    They were missing two receivers, an outside linebacker, the starting right tackle, JJ Watt (seriously... it's Watt) the starting centre, last years first round draft pick at corner.... if those guys were healthy you're talking about a totally different team. The Texans are a very good team with a bad situation at quarterback, they're in a similar situation to what Seattle were before they got Wilson or the Broncos during the Tebow era.

    They also held their own pretty damn well against the Raiders in Mexico with Carr, they let it slip in the 4th quarter. That game could have also been different if not for the spots and laser pointers. While they were 9-7 they also beat the Titans (9-7) and only lost to them in the final game because of rested players. They beat the Colts (8-8) twice, they beat the Lions who made playoffs, the beat KC. It's a team that's historically been bad but it's also the youngest team in the league and at least since Watt and O'Brien have been there the team is looking up.

    I don't care who they are missing or what you think hypothetically would have happened "if" people didn't get injured. Injuries are a part of football and you have to deal with them, just like any other team. Stop acting like the Texans are the only team that had to deal with injuries.

    Trying to pull out opponents records is dumb too. It's meaningless.

    None of what you said changes the fact that they were in a shitty division and are a mediocore team. The definition of mediocore is average, and they were 1 game over having an average record. You are what your record says you are. Sure they are on the up and up which is good for them, but just stop trying to act like they are going to run the table and are a super bowl caliber team. They aren't. They got blown out by the Pats earlier in the season and there isn't really a reason tonight should be any different.

    What you're doing is called loser speak. I know all too well about it doing it myself over the past 2 decades as a Redskins fan lol.
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    J-ride wrote: »
    A Texas football fan dream...
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    Though it has the slightest of slight chances to happen this season!!








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  • BR3N7BR3N7 Todays "fake news" is tomorrows "everyone does it" Joined: Posts: 1,992
    edited January 14
    chadouken! wrote: »
    Who's ready for that Houston upset tonight?

    Houston is going to win tonight for sure 100%. Just came back from the future!!!
    The Rockets beat the Nets by 12.... If you talking NFL the Texans got raped and Oswiener looks like Oswiener and went 20/45 168 Yards 0 TD and 3 INT before being benched for Savage when the score was 35-3

  • CUTWESTCUTWEST There is no rivalry. =( Joined: Posts: 1,770
    edited January 14
    Les go ATL!
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    Mike and Mike is basically done, Greenberg getting his own show on the flagship.

    Idk whether to be happy...or weeping...
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    Mike and Mike has been the worst show on ESPN for the longest time. How people can listen to Greenberg and his chipmunk voice is beyond me.
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    Ya if its early in the morning I am listening to Dan Patrick if my only option is Radio.
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    That show started my day for a long time. I'm bummed.

    Also slightly bumming, Marvin Lewis still not being fired yet.
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    CUTWEST wrote: »
    Les go ATL!
    Yes, they should go on vacation. Why bother wasting a good day playing a football game? Go home and be a family man.

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    That drive for a TD to Graham. Good start.
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    edited January 14
    So Sherman spends the first half getting exposed by Julio. Sounds about right.
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    edited January 14
    Refs trying to cheat for the Seachickens already. For what, I don't know, it's first down either way.
    EDIT: Wison got sacked.
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    That Atlanta touchdown was clearly OPI but whatever...
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    Jesus Christ way to nullify a return.
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    LMAO Seahawks!
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    What the god damn fuck?
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    Offensive line so shit they trip over their own QB for a safety.
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    LOL Seachickens
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    Offensive line so shit they trip over their own QB for a safety.
    They've tripped him before. We have the weirdest o-line. Two fuck-ups so far, but they're looking decent otherwise.

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    edited January 14
    Second half better be good like the first half. :wow:

    I'm curious to see what adjustments the Seahawks defense will do in the second half.

    It looks like Atlanta has no problems moving the ball.
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    And this special teams group can eat shit too.
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    I can't wait to hear all the Seattle fans crying about the refs out to get them with the flags if they lose.
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    My neighbor was so hype and yelling a lot until the butt safety.

    He's been quiet ever since.

    Dis game gun be gud.
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    Shead off on a cart, and Bennett getting hurt too. This defense can't stop them and the injuries pile up.
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    Another player hurt? Seachickens on that Phoenix-tier glass cannon tip.
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    Here comes the dirty Seattle team that they are. True colors are coming out because they are getting their shit pushed in.
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    purbeast wrote: »
    Here comes the dirty Seattle team that they are. True colors are coming out because they are getting their shit pushed in.
    In other words: Seachickens exposed in the playoffs on both sides of the ball, again.
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