X-MEN/FF 'DLC' Thoughts...

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With Ryce (leak) confirming that X-men & Fantastic4 characters will only available through DLC - Its pretty much guaranteed that Wolverine, Magneto, Storm & Doom will be included for the Marvel side (I'm not happy about that but whatyagonnado).

That'll leave 1 or 2 Marvel Characters left (presuming that the dlc pack will be 10-12 characters - Half Marvel/half Capcom).

Who out of the remaining X-men/FF characters would you like to see fill the last one or two spots? For me...

1st - PSYLOCKE
2nd - GAMBIT
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,866
    edited January 8
    He never confirmed how many we're getting. It's quite the jump to resume we'll be getting a Ultimate size update with the DLC characters.
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  • kikoKENkikoKEN Joined: Posts: 182
    this is the first time x-men & FF characters have been limited to dlc and with how many there have always been in Capcom vs games i think we can expect a bigger dlc pack than usual. Agreed it isn't guaranteed but this may have been a contract issue only - Out of the 18 MVC3 characters 9 were Xmen/FF!
  • OuroborusOuroborus plays 3s just to troll Joined: Posts: 7,249 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    needs Sentinel
    ssf4ae tier list regarding Gen:

    D Proto: and where is Gen?
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  • kikoKENkikoKEN Joined: Posts: 182
    this worries me. i really dislike Sentinel but know Sentinel, Mags & Stormy were 'THE' team in MVC2 - i remember Seth REALLY pushed for him in MVC3 but not sure he's a fan fav anymore. Was he more of a MVC2 sentimental addition? Ofcourse I'm expecting the sentinel fans to creep out and prove me wrong so apologies if so ;)
    Ouroborus wrote: »
    needs Sentinel
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,866
    The problem with Sentinel is Marvel has no reason to prioritize him. Sure, MvC2 fans love the guy but sentinels have been irrelevant in Marvel media for a very long time. Capcom was able to fight for him in 2011 but things are very different now. I think Cable has a better shot in making in it than Sentinel.
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  • CyberPhoenix0252CyberPhoenix0252 Joined: Posts: 545
    edited January 8
    This thread needs more FF with all this X-Men talk.

    Currently, the only relevant FF characters (specifically the team) as it stands are the Human Torch (off with the Inhumans) and the Thing (was with the GotG, now with S.H.I.E.L.D trying to take down Iron Doom).

    They'll probably be the two FF team characters we'll get.

    Doom is a given.

    As for other characters like Super Skrull? I honestly have no idea. Probably irrelevant since I haven't seen him in anything as of late.
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  • Doctrine DarkDoctrine Dark Yum Yum Joined: Posts: 7,475
    I would love for Invisible Woman to be in the game.

    Outside of Doom and Skrull, Annihilus is the only other interesting villain I could think of.
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  • dragondude626dragondude626 Joined: Posts: 60
    Here is how it goes for Marvel on the FF/X-Men characters.

    Most Likely:
    Logan
    Magneto
    Storm
    Jean
    X-23
    Deadpool
    Doom
    Cyke

    Possibly:
    Psylocke
    Kang
    Rogue
    Magik
    Cable
    Annhilus
    Apocalypse
    Emma Frost
    Colossus
    Nightcrawler
    etc

    Not going to happen:
    Sentinel
    Gambit(yeah Gambit has no presence in comics and casuals DGAF. Only casual gamers do)
  • kikoKENkikoKEN Joined: Posts: 182
    i agree Torch is the only relevant/possible FF character. I worry S-Skrull may over take an x man character :(
    This thread needs more FF with all this X-Men talk.

    Currently, the only relevant FF characters (specifically the team) as it stands are the Human Torch (Off with the Inhumans) and the Thing (Was with the GOTG, now with S.H.I.E.L.D trying to take down Iron Doom).

    They'll probably be the two FF team characters we'll get.

    Doom is a given.

    As for other characters like Super Skrull? I honestly have no idea. Probably irrelevant since I haven't seen him in anything as of late.

  • kikoKENkikoKEN Joined: Posts: 182
    I think Jean's been wiped out by Captain Marvel especially with her super 'binary' moves.

    i'm happy with X23 but i think it ll either be X23 OR Psylocke in which case i'd choose always Psylocke - her being the first & only female in Capcom's first 'infinity stones' MSH game & also being a ninja and what Niitsuma said about her vs Strider... I'm like TOTALLY sold!

    Deadpool i nearly put up as another DEFINATE entry but with all these Gwenpool rumours I'm not sure he's a sure thing? He is prob the hottest Marvel property at the moment but I m worried thats pissing marvel off more than anything - especially with his movie property belonging to Fox?
    Here is how it goes for Marvel on the FF/X-Men characters.

    Most Likely:
    Logan
    Magneto
    Storm
    Jean
    X-23
    Deadpool
    Doom
    Cyke

    Possibly:
    Psylocke
    Kang
    Rogue
    Magik
    Cable
    Annhilus
    Apocalypse
    Emma Frost
    Colossus
    Nightcrawler
    etc

    Not going to happen:
    Sentinel
    Gambit(yeah Gambit has no presence in comics and casuals DGAF. Only casual gamers do)
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    I hope the Wolverine we get is Old Man Logan.
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  • KorbidonKorbidon Who can stand against such abominations? Joined: Posts: 4,636
    Isn't Cable in the new Deadpool movie? That makes him a pretty good prospect, right?
  • VenomMelendezVenomMelendez All Hail M.O.D.O.K.! Joined: Posts: 790
    edited January 8
    The problem with Sentinel is Marvel has no reason to prioritize him. Sure, MvC2 fans love the guy but sentinels have been irrelevant in Marvel media for a very long time. Capcom was able to fight for him in 2011 but things are very different now. I think Cable has a better shot in making in it than Sentinel.

    Best case scenario would be Marvel suggesting Bastion or Omega Sentinel as a substitute for the regular Sentinel.
    As for other characters like Super Skrull? I honestly have no idea. Probably irrelevant since I haven't seen him in anything as of late.

    Actually, if it's anything like last time, Super-Skrull has a better shot than any of the F4.

    He was added by Marvel's suggestion because Capcom was a having a hard time with the individual F4 members.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    I think Jean's been wiped out by Captain Marvel especially with her super 'binary' moves.

    Which work completely different to Jean's Phoenix transformation, so it's not an issue.
    i'm happy with X23 but i think it ll either be X23 OR Psylocke in which case

    They will go with X-23, because she's the one with a solo ongoing book.
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    kikoKEN wrote: »
    this worries me. i really dislike Sentinel but know Sentinel, Mags & Stormy were 'THE' team in MVC2 - i remember Seth REALLY pushed for him in MVC3 but not sure he's a fan fav anymore. Was he more of a MVC2 sentimental addition? Ofcourse I'm expecting the sentinel fans to creep out and prove me wrong so apologies if so ;)
    Ouroborus wrote: »
    needs Sentinel

    You have to respect Sentinel. MVC3 happened because of how undying MVC2 was in the fgc regardless of it being 10 years old and Sentinel is one of the top reasons that made that possible.

    MVCI would be incomplete because we will be thinking of "i wonder if this character could run away like that if someone was there to give them a frying pan".
  • CyberPhoenix0252CyberPhoenix0252 Joined: Posts: 545
    edited January 8
    I hope the Wolverine we get is Old Man Logan.

    Heck yeah, especially if that means we get a remix of Wolverine's MSH vs SF theme.
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    Zatalcon wrote: »

    You have to respect Sentinel. MVC3 happened because of how undying MVC2 was in the fgc regardless of it being 10 years old and Sentinel is one of the top reasons that made that possible.

    But Capcom had to fight for him last time and with Marvel having more input this time, i'm not sure of his chances.

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    I'm not sure I'd like Sentinel to be in if it's as ass as it was in MvC3.
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    Korbidon wrote: »
    Isn't Cable in the new Deadpool movie? That makes him a pretty good prospect, right?
    Au contraire.

    Marvel is AVOIDING to advertise Fox's X-Men movies...
  • OuroborusOuroborus plays 3s just to troll Joined: Posts: 7,249 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    i'll reiterate.

    i want sentinel, not a glorified tin can.
    ssf4ae tier list regarding Gen:

    D Proto: and where is Gen?
    oORYUOo: you cannot tier what you cannot see
  • DeadpoolBubDeadpoolBub Joined: Posts: 433
    I think Deadpool will get into the launch roster. He's been the one character Marvel's been extremely lenient on with this boycott.

    • He's been receiving merchandise the whole time X-Men/F4 weren't. Go to any Wal-Mart, Target, etc... & you could see DP merch than for any MCU characters besides Spidey, Iron Man & Cap
    • His presence in the comics has only expanded; he now has his own sub-line of comics with a specific Deadpool editor like Avengers, Spider-Man, X-Men, etc... do
    • Marvel's outright using the movie version of Nega Sonic in the comics (I think the only other movie/show synergy this blatant was the Agents of SHIELD series)
    • Marvel seems to like the Deadpool movie more than the X-Men movies. They slightly marketed it on their websites last February by having a lot of Deadpool themed content. The DP comics at the time referenced it too
    • He's becoming really popular in Japan. Several Japanese toy lines (Revoltech, Nendoroid & Figma) have made/are making Deadpool figures based on the comic design, their only other Marvel figures are MCU designs (besides Revoltech who are also doing comic Spidey/Venom).

      Whether he'll be in the game's marketing is debatable, but this happened recently. It's obviously not irrefutable evidence but it's very interesting, especially since this is Disney's website.

      QXYnsJl.png

      I think Wolverine has a shot at sneaking onto the launch roster too, but I'm not as confident in that.
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    The problem with Sentinel is Marvel has no reason to prioritize him. Sure, MvC2 fans love the guy but sentinels have been irrelevant in Marvel media for a very long time. Capcom was able to fight for him in 2011 but things are very different now. I think Cable has a better shot in making in it than Sentinel.

    Best case scenario would be Marvel suggesting Bastion or Omega Sentinel as a substitute for the regular Sentinel.
    As for other characters like Super Skrull? I honestly have no idea. Probably irrelevant since I haven't seen him in anything as of late.

    Actually, if it's anything like last time, Super-Skrull has a better shot than any of the F4.

    He was added by Marvel's suggestion because Capcom was a having a hard time with the individual F4 members.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    I think Jean's been wiped out by Captain Marvel especially with her super 'binary' moves.

    Which work completely different to Jean's Phoenix transformation, so it's not an issue.
    i'm happy with X23 but i think it ll either be X23 OR Psylocke in which case

    They will go with X-23, because she's the one with a solo ongoing book.

    You can't deny Captain Marvel's 'fire-up/binary' is very similar in looks to 'Phoenix/fire-up' mode? I think its even the same voice actress? I highly doubt they ll have both.
  • kikoKENkikoKEN Joined: Posts: 182
    Prob unrelated but XM studios were creating an X-men vs sentinel diorama statue with Rogue, Gambit, Nightcrawler, Jubilee, Colossus & Archangel - its was practically finished when Marvel decided that they didn't want Rogue, Gambit & Nightcrawler to be used. So Rogue was replaced by Beast. Gambit was replaced by Bishop & Nightcrawler was replaced by Psylocke - Seems like they wanted to push those 3 characters instead.... We ll probably never know why Marvel makes these decisions but goes to show you can't predict their choices...

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    kikoKEN wrote: »

    You can't deny Captain Marvel's 'fire-up/binary' is very similar in looks to 'Phoenix/fire-up' mode? I think its even the same voice actress? I highly doubt they ll have both.

    Wrong on both counts, the Binary thing doesn't work like the Phoenix transformation and Captain Marvel in Infinite is voiced by Grey Delisle, not Jennifer Hale.
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    seriously u can't see the similarities? don't get me wrong i like phoenix but if they thought Spiderwoman & Trish were too similar...

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    kikoKEN wrote: »

    You can't deny Captain Marvel's 'fire-up/binary' is very similar in looks to 'Phoenix/fire-up' mode? I think its even the same voice actress? I highly doubt they ll have both.

    Wrong on both counts, the Binary thing doesn't work like the Phoenix transformation and Captain Marvel in Infinite is voiced by Grey Delisle, not Jennifer Hale.
  • chrisb0841chrisb0841 Joined: Posts: 8
    edited January 8
    I think Gambit actually has a very good chance. Mega Man X practically headlining the game and X-MEN being all but confirmed through leaks and more positive statements than anticipated by Marvel regarding them, says the the process is a different animal. I feel like they'll be two polarized priorities the game's development will have, making the game exciting and appealing with regards to what people actually want (game modes, fan-popular character choices, etc) and Marvel's general promotion goals. I feel things like the struggling sales of SFV creating a need and want for Capcom to hit the mark from day 1 with MVC, the incoming Marvel head of games' likely desire to ensure a few positive marks at the beginning of his term saleswise, and having head developers who worked on the old VS series games around, who likely have more pull in Capcom, will likely push for some character additions they want or feel will be exciting for fans to see, and will be working on a Marvel/Capcom team that is stated to be more cooperative than last time all help.

    I think all these factors favor characters who had a VERY high profile among fans in terms of popularity the last time around. This may not extend to all top voted characters, but I do feel the one's who performed particularly well on those polls (characters like Gambit, Venom, etc) will get looked upon a little bit closer this time around. I also get a bit of a feeling the game may throw back to MVC1 in some respects (which favors Gambit). I wouldn't be surprised if the roster shaked up in ways people don't expect.

    Plus, I think the Gambit movie being all but canceled and FOX moving away from core X-MEN in the film universe helps his chances; being now less likely to appear in any of the films.
  • VenomMelendezVenomMelendez All Hail M.O.D.O.K.! Joined: Posts: 790
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    X-MEN being all but confirmed through leaks

    No they haven't, not on the base roster anyway.

    Any mention of the X-Men in leaks has been about them being DLC or they might not be in the game.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    seriously u can't see the similarities?

    Besides the superficial? No. She only goes Binary in her supers, she doesn't remain in that form.

    From what we've seen, it doesn't work like Jean's Phoenix transformation in 3.
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    I guess we ll have to wait and see...
    X-MEN being all but confirmed through leaks

    No they haven't, not on the base roster anyway.

    Any mention of the X-Men in leaks has been about them being DLC or they might not be in the game.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    seriously u can't see the similarities?

    Besides the superficial? No. She only goes Binary in her supers, she doesn't remain in that form.

    From what we've seen, it doesn't work like Jean's Phoenix transformation in 3.

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    kikoKEN wrote: »
    I guess we ll have to wait and see...
    X-MEN being all but confirmed through leaks

    No they haven't, not on the base roster anyway.

    Any mention of the X-Men in leaks has been about them being DLC or they might not be in the game.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    seriously u can't see the similarities?

    Besides the superficial? No. She only goes Binary in her supers, she doesn't remain in that form.

    From what we've seen, it doesn't work like Jean's Phoenix transformation in 3.

    There is no wait and see. Danvors in her Binary form functions nothing like the Phoenix at all. Carol absorbs energy and releases it. Her Binary form at present is not as strong as when it was first introduced. Even then her power was not comparable to Phoenix. What we see from the game Carol goes Binary in her supers. It's not an install like it is for Jean.
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  • kikoKENkikoKEN Joined: Posts: 182
    edited January 8
    I'm saying we ll have to agree to disagree and see whether she makes it.
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    I'm saying we ll have to agree to disagree and see whether she makes it.

    I was always taking 'visually' I know the moves/powers are completely different and if she was in the game capcom would make sure they were different enough. I m just saying from that announcement trailer Carols 'binary fire up' is in my eyes far too similar to Jean's 'Phoenix'. I therefore doubt she ll be in the xmen cast.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    I guess we ll have to wait and see...
    X-MEN being all but confirmed through leaks

    No they haven't, not on the base roster anyway.

    Any mention of the X-Men in leaks has been about them being DLC or they might not be in the game.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    seriously u can't see the similarities?

    Besides the superficial? No. She only goes Binary in her supers, she doesn't remain in that form.

    From what we've seen, it doesn't work like Jean's Phoenix transformation in 3.

    There is no wait and see. Danvors in her Binary form functions nothing like the Phoenix at all. Carol absorbs energy and releases it. Her Binary form at present is not as strong as when it was first introduced. Even then her power was not comparable to Phoenix. What we see from the game Carol goes Binary in her supers. It's not an install like it is for Jean.
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,866
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    I'm saying we ll have to agree to disagree and see whether she makes it.

    I was always taking 'visually' I know the moves/powers are completely different and if she was in the game capcom would make sure they were different enough. I m just saying from that announcement trailer Carols 'binary fire up' is in my eyes far too similar to Jean's 'Phoenix'. I therefore doubt she ll be in the xmen cast.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    I guess we ll have to wait and see...
    X-MEN being all but confirmed through leaks

    No they haven't, not on the base roster anyway.

    Any mention of the X-Men in leaks has been about them being DLC or they might not be in the game.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    seriously u can't see the similarities?

    Besides the superficial? No. She only goes Binary in her supers, she doesn't remain in that form.

    From what we've seen, it doesn't work like Jean's Phoenix transformation in 3.

    There is no wait and see. Danvors in her Binary form functions nothing like the Phoenix at all. Carol absorbs energy and releases it. Her Binary form at present is not as strong as when it was first introduced. Even then her power was not comparable to Phoenix. What we see from the game Carol goes Binary in her supers. It's not an install like it is for Jean.

    In the screenshot you provided Carol is being powered by a Infinite Gem. She's not in her Binary form in the announcement trailer.
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  • dragondude626dragondude626 Joined: Posts: 60
    The polls on gaming sites are only a third of Marvel's fanbase. You have to consider comic fans and casual fans so Venom is good for all three, Cyke is, Jean is, etc.

    Gambit isn't, Psylocke isn't.

    And thinking Jean won't make it in, sorry if any X-Men DLC happens she will be following up the big names as soon as possible. Her and Storm are still Marvel's most popular females overall even if they can't do movies about them.
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    To be honest, I wouldn't mind getting a Phoenix without the Dark Phoenix gimmick. At worst, she could probably access the transformation through one of the effects of an Infinity Gem or something.

    I always felt Phoenix was solid enough as she was, but unable to be used on point because a simple sneeze would KO her.
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    kikoKEN wrote: »
    I'm saying we ll have to agree to disagree and see whether she makes it.

    I was always taking 'visually' I know the moves/powers are completely different and if she was in the game capcom would make sure they were different enough. I m just saying from that announcement trailer Carols 'binary fire up' is in my eyes far too similar to Jean's 'Phoenix'. I therefore doubt she ll be in the xmen cast.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    I guess we ll have to wait and see...
    X-MEN being all but confirmed through leaks

    No they haven't, not on the base roster anyway.

    Any mention of the X-Men in leaks has been about them being DLC or they might not be in the game.
    kikoKEN wrote: »
    seriously u can't see the similarities?

    Besides the superficial? No. She only goes Binary in her supers, she doesn't remain in that form.

    From what we've seen, it doesn't work like Jean's Phoenix transformation in 3.

    There is no wait and see. Danvors in her Binary form functions nothing like the Phoenix at all. Carol absorbs energy and releases it. Her Binary form at present is not as strong as when it was first introduced. Even then her power was not comparable to Phoenix. What we see from the game Carol goes Binary in her supers. It's not an install like it is for Jean.

    In the screenshot you provided Carol is being powered by a Infinite Gem. She's not in her Binary form in the announcement trailer.

    Actually, that isn't the gem. Her using the gem comes later and even then, we see she glows green from the Time Gem.
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    yep as d3v said. ^

    also heres 2 polls from CBR (1x is 3 years after MvC3 was released & the other nearly 5years after). Things will have changed by now but It gives u a good idea of popularity & how quickly things can change.

    2014
    observationdeck.kinja.com/something-i-found-marvel-character-popularity-poll-cb-1568108064

    2015
    cbr.com/2015-top-100-marvel-characters-100-1/

    [/quote]

    There is no wait and see. Danvors in her Binary form functions nothing like the Phoenix at all. Carol absorbs energy and releases it. Her Binary form at present is not as strong as when it was first introduced. Even then her power was not comparable to Phoenix. What we see from the game Carol goes Binary in her supers. It's not an install like it is for Jean.[/quote]
    [/quote]

    In the screenshot you provided Carol is being powered by a Infinite Gem. She's not in her Binary form in the announcement trailer. [/quote]

    Actually, that isn't the gem. Her using the gem comes later and even then, we see she glows green from the Time Gem.[/quote]
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    If this dlc thing is really happening, I would put money on: Magneto, Storm, some form of Logan, and some form of Laura being in the lineup. The rest can go any which way. We could see: Cyclops, Phoenix, Cyclops AS Phoenix (as per Secret Wars), Iceman, Cable, Gambit, Nightcrawler, Apocalypse, Emma Frost, or even something surprising. Since Marvel seems to be including X-men to please fans, you can't really rule out any one that you'd expect a random movie-goer to recognize.
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    Psylocke. Literally the only X-Men I wish to see. She's probably the most requested X-Men female.

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    With her new Telekinetic weapons arsanel, would be awesome to see her use a Psy Mace, Sword, Katana from near while a Psy Bow and Arrow from far.

    Now that she's an Omega Level Mutant who has possibly also surpassed Prof X and Jean Grey, she should be definitely added to the X-Men roster.
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    Psylocke. Literally the only X-Men I wish to see. She's probably the most requested X-Men female.

    psylocke_by_kamiyamark-da5lkee.jpg


    With her new Telekinetic weapons arsanel, would be awesome to see her use a Psy Mace, Sword, Katana from near while a Psy Bow and Arrow from far.

    Now that she's an Omega Level Mutant who has possibly also surpassed Prof X and Jean Grey, she should be definitely added to the X-Men roster.

    Totally agree
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    Who'd voice her? Last time she was in a show was in Wolverine & the X-Men, you think they'll go with that voice actress or go with someone new?
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    Who'd voice her? Last time she was in a show was in Wolverine & the X-Men, you think they'll go with that voice actress or go with someone new?

    Grey DeLisle voiced her in Wolverine & The X-Men. She's voicing Carol in this game, right? She can pull double duty.
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