Ultra SF2 General Discussion - We need the CPS1 music!

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  • VanceVance Dial down the center Joined: Posts: 134
    edited August 6
    TelMarine wrote: »
    That warp of Violent Ken's is ridiculous...I could probably deal with all the other stuff but the warp is by far the worst. The reaction time you need to counter it is crazy, especially via internet. Like, for example, the cross-up warp into dragon punch. If you don't block well in advance, the game doesn't seem to register you switched your blocking direction in time. Or the warp into throw is especially nasty. You have a fraction of a second to react. The invincibility time on the farther warps is quite generous as well, he only is vulnerable right at the end in which he can instantly do a move. Other warps in the game, such as yoga teleport or akuma/evil ryu are much more manageable and you can time a counter attack. Here, it's incredibly difficult unless you happen to guess correctly.

    Learning how to beat Violent Ken's command dash with your main is part of your rite to passage in USF2, just like learning how to beat Ryu's fireball dragon punch trap is in SFII: WW. I haven't played every character thoroughly yet, but you bet I hit the lab with the ones I do against that particular move.

    Remember that Violent Ken's command dash is his preferred way to approach. His air tatsu leaves him more open and his jump arc is terrible. Man falls like a rock.
    Ultra Street Fighter 2 player
    Used to play Street Fighter V before Season 2
    Played a lot of HD Remix
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 5,732
    Has anyone ran into Shin Akumas online?

  • VanceVance Dial down the center Joined: Posts: 134
    You can't choose Shin Akuma for local online and Internet battles.
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    Used to play Street Fighter V before Season 2
    Played a lot of HD Remix
  • VanceVance Dial down the center Joined: Posts: 134
    Just played a couple of matches against x64. It's an honor to play against him again. Felt like the HD Remix days. Let me know if you want to try out any matchup.
    Ultra Street Fighter 2 player
    Used to play Street Fighter V before Season 2
    Played a lot of HD Remix
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 5,732
    So Shin Akuma is only playable offline? He's not banned
  • x64x64 Fuck your SRK Joined: Posts: 3,169
    Vance wrote: »
    Just played a couple of matches against x64. It's an honor to play against him again. Felt like the HD Remix days. Let me know if you want to try out any matchup.

    Were you the DJ? Sorry about not playing more, I was trying to get more matches against a high ranked V.Ken at the time.
    Jion_Wansu wrote: »
    So Shin Akuma is only playable offline? He's not banned

    Why are you even mentioning this? No tourney is going to allow Shin Akuma.
    ST/HDR/USF2: Honda/Rog/O.Hawk | USF4: Bison | SFV: Ryu :(
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    Fightcade/USF2: x64
  • VanceVance Dial down the center Joined: Posts: 134
    edited August 10
    x64 wrote: »
    Were you the DJ? Sorry about not playing more, I was trying to get more matches against a high ranked V.Ken at the time.

    That was me! I used to go by the name littlecowpower on HD Remix and played Blanka exclusively, when he wasn't borderline garbage. Now I stick to Evil Ryu and only switch to Dee Jay or Blanka against the players I respect most.

    I've mained Zangief and Guile in past versions of SFII as well... Nothing but love for this strange game.

    How did you do against Violent Ken?
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    Used to play Street Fighter V before Season 2
    Played a lot of HD Remix
  • x64x64 Fuck your SRK Joined: Posts: 3,169
    edited August 11
    Vance wrote: »
    x64 wrote: »
    Were you the DJ? Sorry about not playing more, I was trying to get more matches against a high ranked V.Ken at the time.

    That was me! I used to go by the name littlecowpower on HD Remix and played Blanka exclusively, when he wasn't borderline garbage. Now I stick to Evil Ryu and only switch to Dee Jay or Blanka against the players I respect most.

    I've mained Zangief and Guile in past versions of SFII as well... Nothing but love for this strange game.

    How did you do against Violent Ken?

    I think I remember you on HDR. I was playing against MichaelLee. I'd say he has the most impressive V.Ken I've run up against so far. I think this might be his first time with SF2 because he lacks a few basics but he has V.Ken's skill plays down. Very adept at using the dash on wakeup to set up a 50/50 jab srk (that's completely safe on block). We probably played about 30 times yesterday and I think I beat him at least 20-10 but the way the game deals PP out I think I barely made change when it was all said and done lol.

    ST/HDR/USF2: Honda/Rog/O.Hawk | USF4: Bison | SFV: Ryu :(
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    Fightcade/USF2: x64
  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,339
    rcaido wrote: »
    x64 wrote: »
    I think I'm going to stop playing ranked for awhile. I went like 100-3 the last few days and still have less points than I started. That and a lot of the top-50 will ether outright avoid you or only play you once. Bleh.

    It's because USF2 is a bit of a cespool. No joystick means not bothering to take this game seriously adn the rare chance you meat someone with a Honda like yours and it gets even more frustrating dealing with those joycons. I think you may have to ditch this and gravitate back to SFV where everyone else is having fun at and lay this to rest :)

    Brooks already works...Game is still fun to play. The only thing i cant deal with is Akuma players...I dont mind shotos.

    Akuma players are generally the worst kinds of people in any game he appears in. What is it about that character that attracts so many shitheads?
    "Money matches are against the law in Japan. They can never be good at Marvel." -4r5
  • VanceVance Dial down the center Joined: Posts: 134
    x64 wrote: »
    I think I remember you on HDR. I was playing against MichaelLee. I'd say he has the most impressive V.Ken I've run up against so far. I think this might be his first time with SF2 because he lacks a few basics but he has V.Ken's skill plays down. Very adept at using the dash on wakeup to set up a 50/50 jab srk (that's completely safe on block). We probably played about 30 times yesterday and I think I beat him at least 20-10 but the way the game deals PP out I think I barely made change when it was all said and done lol.

    MichaelLee is a tough Violent Ken. He understands how much more dangerous Violent Ken's mixups are when you also have to worry about his hadoken. I haven't had a match yet where I didn't think, "Wow! Should have thought of that."
    Ultra Street Fighter 2 player
    Used to play Street Fighter V before Season 2
    Played a lot of HD Remix
  • rcaidorcaido Dynamic Bayside Duo Joined: Posts: 8,318
    I wish usf2 has lobbies.
  • Gunner ThorGunner Thor Big Sexy Joined: Posts: 125
    rcaido wrote: »
    I wish usf2 has lobbies.

    lobbies would be great, doesnt seem like there's enough players for it though. There's never anyone in casuals
  • rcaidorcaido Dynamic Bayside Duo Joined: Posts: 8,318
    If there were lobbies, im pretty sure there will be more people in casuals...Its exactly the same as Rank, so might well just get something then nothing.
  • Gunner ThorGunner Thor Big Sexy Joined: Posts: 125
    rcaido wrote: »
    If there were lobbies, im pretty sure there will be more people in casuals...Its exactly the same as Rank, so might well just get something then nothing.

    Good point.
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 5,732
    Well let's see about the next offline USF2. Will someone use Shin Akuma
  • Gunner ThorGunner Thor Big Sexy Joined: Posts: 125
    Jion_Wansu wrote: »
    Well let's see about the next offline USF2. Will someone use Shin Akuma

    Akuma is enough of an annoyance, Shin would just be dumb
  • Gunner ThorGunner Thor Big Sexy Joined: Posts: 125
    I hate the cage level with a passion, unless they allow the Claw player to control the dismount, how in the hell is that anything but a handicap for Vega? It's like taking Akuma's air fireballs away, like WTF
  • x64x64 Fuck your SRK Joined: Posts: 3,169
    I hate the cage level with a passion, unless they allow the Claw player to control the dismount, how in the hell is that anything but a handicap for Vega? It's like taking Akuma's air fireballs away, like WTF

    It was a huge oversight on capcoms part. "Oh hey lets do this nostalgia thing on Vega's stage". lol.
    ST/HDR/USF2: Honda/Rog/O.Hawk | USF4: Bison | SFV: Ryu :(
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  • kedawakedawa . Joined: Posts: 396
    It really should be a different command.
  • TelMarineTelMarine Joined: Posts: 36
    Vance wrote: »
    x64 wrote: »
    I think I remember you on HDR. I was playing against MichaelLee. I'd say he has the most impressive V.Ken I've run up against so far. I think this might be his first time with SF2 because he lacks a few basics but he has V.Ken's skill plays down. Very adept at using the dash on wakeup to set up a 50/50 jab srk (that's completely safe on block). We probably played about 30 times yesterday and I think I beat him at least 20-10 but the way the game deals PP out I think I barely made change when it was all said and done lol.

    MichaelLee is a tough Violent Ken. He understands how much more dangerous Violent Ken's mixups are when you also have to worry about his hadoken. I haven't had a match yet where I didn't think, "Wow! Should have thought of that."

    He's pretty good but he depends a lot on the warp, at least when I play him.

    I think they should change the current Violent Ken to Shin Violent Ken and make a more nerfed version the selectable one. He is pretty godly as-is now.

    It's interesting to run into a bunch of people I played against on GGPO years ago. Good games Ganelon.
  • Gunner ThorGunner Thor Big Sexy Joined: Posts: 125
    kedawa wrote: »
    It really should be a different command.

    People actually start picking that stage against me if they see me enough times
  • VanceVance Dial down the center Joined: Posts: 134
    kedawa wrote: »
    It really should be a different command.

    People actually start picking that stage against me if they see me enough times

    If I could change only one thing about Ultra Street Fighter II, the cage climb in Spain would definitely be it.

    And for the record, whenever fighting a Vega player I always make sure I don't pick Spain stage. There's nothing beautiful about either player not being able to play their best.

    Ultra Street Fighter 2 player
    Used to play Street Fighter V before Season 2
    Played a lot of HD Remix
  • rcaidorcaido Dynamic Bayside Duo Joined: Posts: 8,318
    meh im not going to cry over Vega...Only thing that needs changing & hopefully if ever gets release in the other consoles is the lobby system. Had my best gaming experience during Hyper Fighting & HDR lobbies that i would play hours & hours everyday...Talking shit, discussing strats, or just shooting the breeze. Also love watching the matchup studying my opponent & the constant different players joining...This is what made the difference between console vs ggpo/fightcade.
  • x64x64 Fuck your SRK Joined: Posts: 3,169
    rcaido wrote: »
    meh im not going to cry over Vega...Only thing that needs changing & hopefully if ever gets release in the other consoles is the lobby system. Had my best gaming experience during Hyper Fighting & HDR lobbies that i would play hours & hours everyday...Talking shit, discussing strats, or just shooting the breeze. Also love watching the matchup studying my opponent & the constant different players joining...This is what made the difference between console vs ggpo/fightcade.

    It is weird that HF and HDR (even SF4) had great lobbies and capcom would just forget about it.
    ST/HDR/USF2: Honda/Rog/O.Hawk | USF4: Bison | SFV: Ryu :(
    XBL: mr x64 | PSN: deadpool_zero | SFV: epistaxis64
    Fightcade/USF2: x64
  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 5,732
    How's the SF5 lobby?
  • RandomRandom Joined: Posts: 275
    x64 wrote: »
    Vance wrote: »
    x64 wrote: »
    Were you the DJ? Sorry about not playing more, I was trying to get more matches against a high ranked V.Ken at the time.

    That was me! I used to go by the name littlecowpower on HD Remix and played Blanka exclusively, when he wasn't borderline garbage. Now I stick to Evil Ryu and only switch to Dee Jay or Blanka against the players I respect most.

    I've mained Zangief and Guile in past versions of SFII as well... Nothing but love for this strange game.

    How did you do against Violent Ken?

    I think I remember you on HDR. I was playing against MichaelLee. I'd say he has the most impressive V.Ken I've run up against so far. I think this might be his first time with SF2 because he lacks a few basics but he has V.Ken's skill plays down. Very adept at using the dash on wakeup to set up a 50/50 jab srk (that's completely safe on block). We probably played about 30 times yesterday and I think I beat him at least 20-10 but the way the game deals PP out I think I barely made change when it was all said and done lol.

    MichaelLee is alright, but his attitude sucks (you can just tell) and he runs after one win. I sent a friend request to him with my name changed to an insult, and he actually added me lol. I'll see if he actually sticks around for matches now.

    Btw I am SSj4_Ryuk on USF4, mind adding me on Switch? I would love to play a good Dj.
  • VanceVance Dial down the center Joined: Posts: 134
    Here's another fun thing to discuss. Want to know which characters the game's top online players main in Ultra Street Fighter II? The Nintendo Switch keeps track of the top 100 players online, and I've tallied the results.

    There are as many Zangief specialists than there are Akuma specialists or Boxer specialists, and only two Sagat mains in the top 100. This game is nothing like ST at all.
    Ultra Street Fighter 2 player
    Used to play Street Fighter V before Season 2
    Played a lot of HD Remix
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