Healthcare - Which System Do You Support?

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  • NecrotrophicNecrotrophic Sea horses FOREVA Joined: Posts: 5,518
    The Beveridge Model
    i want whatever system will give people who support "out of pocket" the mental health coverage they desperately need.

    It probably would be so crazy if costs for care weren't so inflated and half of our paycheck didn't go to the government.

    its not worth it to let people just die. no matter what there's always going to be people who cant afford health insurance which is why its best to remove the for profit aspect of it
    Northeast PA
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  • SNAAAAKESNAAAAKE WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!? Joined: Posts: 13,053 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited March 20
    i want whatever system will give people who support "out of pocket" the mental health coverage they desperately need.

    It probably would be so crazy if costs for care weren't so inflated due to insurance exploitation and half of our paycheck didn't go to the government.

    ny prices are insane. my brother and I were paying $1700(for both) through our company as tax write off. for the last 3 years I paid I must have went to the doctors once and even then the damn insurance didn't cover eye drops and had to pay $100 cash for it.

    right now we are paying $1055 for 2 people in FL. little better I guess but still pretty high for MANDATORY health insurance.
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  • Captain RyuCaptain Ryu Scoot Magee Joined: Posts: 1,312
    i want whatever system will give people who support "out of pocket" the mental health coverage they desperately need.

    It probably would be so crazy if costs for care weren't so inflated and half of our paycheck didn't go to the government.

    its not worth it to let people just die. no matter what there's always going to be people who cant afford health insurance which is why its best to remove the for profit aspect of it

    But don't we have programs like Medicaid in place to prevent things like this from happening? I've never used the program myself but I thought it was essentially government insurance for the poor.
    CFN ScootMagee
  • NecrotrophicNecrotrophic Sea horses FOREVA Joined: Posts: 5,518
    The Beveridge Model
    i want whatever system will give people who support "out of pocket" the mental health coverage they desperately need.

    It probably would be so crazy if costs for care weren't so inflated and half of our paycheck didn't go to the government.

    its not worth it to let people just die. no matter what there's always going to be people who cant afford health insurance which is why its best to remove the for profit aspect of it

    But don't we have programs like Medicaid in place to prevent things like this from happening? I've never used the program myself but I thought it was essentially government insurance for the poor.

    it is but they are very strict about who gets on it.

    i was out of work for a while before Obamacare while trying to go to school and i wasn't allowed on it, mostly because i wasnt a single mom and i had a car.
    Northeast PA
    570 Necro
  • Captain RyuCaptain Ryu Scoot Magee Joined: Posts: 1,312
    edited March 20
    SNAAAAKE wrote: »
    i want whatever system will give people who support "out of pocket" the mental health coverage they desperately need.

    It probably would be so crazy if costs for care weren't so inflated due to insurance exploitation and half of our paycheck didn't go to the government.

    ny prices are insane. my brother and I were paying $1700(for both) through our company as tax write off. for the last 2 years I paid I must have went to the doctors once and even then the damn insurance didn't cover eye drops and had to pay $100 cash for it.

    right now we are paying $1055 for 2 people in FL. little better I guess but still pretty high for MANDATORY health insurance.

    That's really high even for NY. 1700 a month? I'm paying about 600 a month for me and my wife through my employer which is pretty good and my deductible right now is 2500. Still I think people, especially young people shouldn't be paying so much for insurance. Cheap plans that cover serious illness with a high deductible should be the norm for younger people. It's not like we have weekly doctor visits.

    The government already takes at least 1/3 of my paycheck every week and then I have to take 600 at the end of the month to pay for health insurance when we barely go to the doctor. That's half my rent.

    My wifes old plan through her employer was almost 800 a month for just her.
    CFN ScootMagee
  • SNAAAAKESNAAAAKE WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!? Joined: Posts: 13,053 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited March 20
    you are paying for other people's medicaid through your pay checks monthly/weekly.

    I had it before when I was a bum. it covered everything including dental and was better than my current paid insurance lol..
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  • Captain RyuCaptain Ryu Scoot Magee Joined: Posts: 1,312
    SNAAAAKE wrote: »
    you are paying for other people's medicaid through your pay checks monthly/weekly.

    I had it before when I was a bum. it covered everything including dental and was better than my current paid insurance lol..

    I heard your mom could do anything from gunshot wounds to root canals. Why the fuck did you need medicaid?
    CFN ScootMagee
  • SNAAAAKESNAAAAKE WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!? Joined: Posts: 13,053 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited March 20
    SNAAAAKE wrote: »
    i want whatever system will give people who support "out of pocket" the mental health coverage they desperately need.

    It probably would be so crazy if costs for care weren't so inflated due to insurance exploitation and half of our paycheck didn't go to the government.

    ny prices are insane. my brother and I were paying $1700(for both) through our company as tax write off. for the last 2 years I paid I must have went to the doctors once and even then the damn insurance didn't cover eye drops and had to pay $100 cash for it.

    right now we are paying $1055 for 2 people in FL. little better I guess but still pretty high for MANDATORY health insurance.

    That's really high even for NY. 1700 a month? I'm paying about 600 a month for me and my wife through my employer which is pretty good and my deductible right now is 2500. Still I think people, especially young people shouldn't be paying so much for insurance. Cheap plans that cover serious illness with a high deductible should be the norm for younger people. It's not like we have weekly doctor visits.

    The government already takes at least 1/3 of my paycheck every week and then I have to take 600 at the end of the month to pay for health insurance when we barely go to the doctor. That's half my rent.

    My wifes old plan through her employer was almost 800 a month for just her.

    not cash money. thats our own company's tax write off. that was the best option I found. its kind of high when you are the employer and paying for employee(we are both). $800 for your wife through her employer sounds about right.

    $1700 was for 2 people btw. including ADP's "broker fee".
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  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 23,671 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    The Bismarck Model
    Expand medicaid. Might as well.
    This is offensive.
  • SNAAAAKESNAAAAKE WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!? Joined: Posts: 13,053 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited March 22
    Why is the government double dipping? We are paying for "federal" medical insurance AND personal.

    Fucc this I'm moving to Vietnam..herro I rike :china:
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  • VASagaVASaga Not Yet Strange! Let Them Wait Joined: Posts: 1,603
    The National Health Insurance Model
    SNAAAAKE wrote: »
    Why is the government double dipping? We are paying for "federal" medical insurance AND personal.

    Fucc this I'm moving to Vietnam..herro I rike :china:

    http://www.patientsbeyondborders.com/mexico


    Medical Tourism Destination Mexico.

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  • FrostyAUFrostyAU Lynx in your sinks Joined: Posts: 7,487
    The Beveridge Model
    I live in Australia and our healthcare like our political system is a hybrid of British and American. The Liberals (our conservatives) tend to want to reduce the governments involvement in healthcare and leave it to providers or at least contract providers over centralisation (the party ​has factions). The Labor Party (our Democrats though more socialist) believe we should copy Scandinavia. It's an ongoing argument and there won't ever be an answer because as long as the rich are greedy and lobby to pay less taxes there will always be opposition to paying for something you're not getting personal gain out of simply because you're a citizen. Unfortunately some people don't have a conscience or a sense of a social contract.
  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 23,671 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    The Bismarck Model
    In Australia tho can't you throw a poisonous spider at them and have them die and then replace those politicians?
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  • FrostyAUFrostyAU Lynx in your sinks Joined: Posts: 7,487
    The Beveridge Model
    I get the joke but it's actually very safe here. 90% of the population live in massive cities. Rural Australia is a different story but not a lot of people live out in the bush.
  • stormsasukestormsasuke Joined: Posts: 19
    The Out-of-Pocket Model
    It's pretty simple. If we only provide healthcare to the rich, all the poor will disappear. Once all the poor are gone, only the rich remain. Result? Everyone in society is rich now.
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