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  • BarlogBarlog Aggressive Turtle Joined: Posts: 39
    Greenwood wrote: »
    grumpy64 wrote: »
    Yeah but from the pov of the consumer it's pretty horrible.
    I know, I was just explaining why companies do it. They're in business to make money. Adding DLC throughout the games lifespan clearly works.

    I don't know why the OP is so shocked by this. This is the way it is now. Tekken, Injustice, Street Fighter, Killer Instinct, and Guilty Gear all have DLC. It will NEVER revert back. We just have to accept it.

    Honestly, I think the issue is less about Capcom having DLC but announcing it after only showing a tiny portion of the game AND ESPECIALLY announcing Sigma is DLC after hyping him up in the Story trailer.
  • atiradoratirador It means "shooter" and I know it's a terrible username Joined: Posts: 1,619
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Greenwood wrote: »
    grumpy64 wrote: »
    Yeah but from the pov of the consumer it's pretty horrible.
    I know, I was just explaining why companies do it. They're in business to make money. Adding DLC throughout the games lifespan clearly works.

    I don't know why the OP is so shocked by this. This is the way it is now. Tekken, Injustice, Street Fighter, Killer Instinct, and Guilty Gear all have DLC. It will NEVER revert back. We just have to accept it.

    I disagree.

    If consumers would make a concerted effort to say "No, I ain't buying it," instead of dropping dollars on a pre-order the second X popped up on screen, this shit could end.

    Of course, that's not likely to happen, and they'll keep on getting away with it.

    Because, at the end of the day, the quality perceived in those games and the entertainment people get from them easily surpass the amount of money the studio is asking for it, that's why people buy them and that's why I'll easily buy this game in particular

  • Zane HitsurugiZane Hitsurugi X-buster, ready. Joined: Posts: 1,078
    @Zane Hitsurugi
    So what's the wrong part on my opinion that you disagree? I have been fair with everyone.

    So what is your understanding? Why is it a scam or not?


    Perhaps its too much to ask, but I believe that companies should strive to go beyond and above the competition, especially when its something like MvC.
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  • The_ShakunetsuThe_Shakunetsu COULD YOU NAME ALL THE CHARACTERS APPEARED IN MY PIC? (spoilers is in my sig) Joined: Posts: 3,384
    edited April 27
    Perhaps its too much to ask, but I believe that companies should strive to go beyond and above the competition, especially when its something like MvC.

    okay @Zane Hitsurugi I don't expect them to go beyond other competition because it is indefinite and we don't know every details yet but at least they should be along KOF14 standards of initial content and roster.


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  • truendymiontruendymion Beer Me! Joined: Posts: 2,226
    Publishers figure this is the more palatable solution to dealing with rising development costs. It's either this DLC nonsense or raise game prices to $80-90 bucks.
  • ExposedDExposedD NO SQUIGGERINO Joined: Posts: 6,393
    I will not support this "scam". But i will support your madder.
    affinity wrote: »
    I mean, you can't even play as a cat in that game. wtf. it's 2017.
    chadouken! wrote: »
    It's called Sonic the Fucking Hedgehog, not Sonic the Cat, you dumb bitch.
  • Captain RyuCaptain Ryu Scoot Magee Joined: Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 27
    People used to beg for new characters in games when it took a separate release to add them. Now we have DLC.

    It's just how it is now. Companies need money especially considering the increased costs in development nowadays. What I don't like is the season pass nonsense that people commit their money to before even knowing what they're going to get. I refuse to do that shit.
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  • pootnanniespootnannies mr. negative Joined: Posts: 3,141
    if this is a scam then practically the entirety of the video game market is a scam.


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  • SevansSevans Top Tier. Joined: Posts: 615
    Sure, why not. There are worse things I could spend my money on.
  • JoeyTonesJoeyTones Joined: Posts: 1,079
    Getting additional characters in a fighting game via DLC is a scam now? This forum is approaching youtube commenter levels of stupidity.
  • SevansSevans Top Tier. Joined: Posts: 615
    po pimpus wrote: »
    The first motherfucker you see in the fucking trailer is DLC.

    If you can't see a problem with that, then I fear you will never understand.

    That is pretty fucked up, but it's Sigma so you know everyone is buying that fool.

    FUCKING GENIUS, CAPCOM!
  • JoeyTonesJoeyTones Joined: Posts: 1,079
    po pimpus wrote: »
    The first motherfucker you see in the fucking trailer is DLC.

    If you can't see a problem with that, then I fear you will never understand.
    I understand this thread is complaining about 6 characters coming to the game as DLC.

  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 25,771
    JoeyTones wrote: »
    po pimpus wrote: »
    The first motherfucker you see in the fucking trailer is DLC.

    If you can't see a problem with that, then I fear you will never understand.
    I understand this thread is complaining about 6 characters coming to the game as DLC.

    How much is Capcpom paying you?

    Are you Combofiend? Get out of here and get back to shitting on zoning.
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  • JoeyTonesJoeyTones Joined: Posts: 1,079
    It's basic reading comprehension and common sense. No Capcom $$$ needed.
  • EdmundEdmund Cammy <3 Joined: Posts: 747
    Magegg wrote: »
    6 "DLC" characters confirmed before the game's even launched?

    This is a scam. This is extorsion.

    While the game looks good, I don't plan on supporting this scam. I'll buy the game in maybe 6-7 years when a complete Steam (or whatever system's being used by that time) version is released. Not paying extra because of blackmailing.

    Everyone planning buying the game, I'd like to know your points of view.

    You sound like a baby throwing a temper tantrum.

    We're mostly adults here who earn more than enough in a day's work to cover the base game + DLC.
  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 25,771
    snip

    This is correct... If we're talking triple A development. Capcpom has NEVER made a triple A Fighting game... You can believe their PR, but it should be obvious from a cursory observation that they do not spend as much money on their games development as other companies.
    They cut corners at every possible opportunity, and spend as little as they can to meet the barest standard of quality. Lack of polish, barebones modes and options, shit servers, and DLC/Premium/Service based post purchase content are all symptoms of Capcpom's mizer budgets. They aren't even using their own servers this go around...

    Injustice is a triple A fighting game- Say what you will about NRS, their games are not lacking in the polish and bells and whistles.
    Their games are the only triple A fighting games on the market... Everything you said describes their model far better than the half-assed shit Capcpom does to justify gouging content to sell later to squeeze a few more pennies out of their fool ass fan base.
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  • Zane HitsurugiZane Hitsurugi X-buster, ready. Joined: Posts: 1,078
    Edmund wrote: »
    Magegg wrote: »
    6 "DLC" characters confirmed before the game's even launched?

    This is a scam. This is extorsion.

    While the game looks good, I don't plan on supporting this scam. I'll buy the game in maybe 6-7 years when a complete Steam (or whatever system's being used by that time) version is released. Not paying extra because of blackmailing.

    Everyone planning buying the game, I'd like to know your points of view.

    You sound like a baby throwing a temper tantrum.

    We're mostly adults here who earn more than enough in a day's work to cover the base game + DLC.
    The "You complain about something therefore you're a broke ass nigga" argument will never stop being the dumbest thing possible. Get a clue.
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  • VhoziteVhozite Booty Worshipping Hedonist Joined: Posts: 3,335
    edited April 28
    DLC is fine when done correctly. Locking content already finished at launch behind a paywall is not ok to me, especially when said content is integral to the games story.

    I could maybe give them a pass and cop up day 1 if I hadn't experience the ongoing shitstorm that is SFV. Capcom's handling of SFV makes Marvel a "wait and see what happens" game for me.
  • willselesswillseless Joined: Posts: 2,643
    TL:DR DLC is a bad practice? No. Capcom dropped the ball revealing 6 DLC, one of them being important to the story, this soon? Yes.
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 56,808 mod
    edited April 28
    I won't support this ponzi scheme. Bernie Madoff conducted this from his jail cell

    Ain't nothin, Capcom's ruthless still producin.  Cut em a check or find yoself toothless.  Keep it shill with no confusin.  Niggas say I'm shill...they ain't hard I can prove it YEEEAH


  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 25,771
    I won't support this ponzi scheme. Bernie Madoff conducted this from his jail cell

    Bro, how much does Capcpom pay? Hook a brotha up... If the pay is good enough, I'll renounce my lifetime vendetta here and now.
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  • TetsuroTetsuro Joined: Posts: 705
    I wouldn't mind the DLC if they had put any production value behind the game. Chun Li looks like she bathed in dookie juice ffs. It just looks visually terrible. I wish Capcom at least had the decency to look like they're trying and invest in their product.
  • PSYCH0J0SHPSYCH0J0SH Joined: Posts: 5,469
    po pimpus wrote: »
    I won't support this ponzi scheme. Bernie Madoff conducted this from his jail cell

    Bro, how much does Capcpom pay? Hook a brotha up... If the pay is good enough, I'll renounce my lifetime vendetta here and now.

    If you're thinking traditional currency, youre SOL.

    DevilJin is mailed a cannister of Chun Li's finest dookie juice and bathwater as a token of Capcom's thanks.

    Lucky motherfucker.
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 25,771
    Hey since we got you Capcpom insiders here, can any of you find out why the company loves fucking with Mega Man fans? Darkstalkers fans don't even get trolled as hard as we do...
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  • PSYCH0J0SHPSYCH0J0SH Joined: Posts: 5,469
    d3v wrote: »
    po pimpus wrote: »
    I won't support this ponzi scheme. Bernie Madoff conducted this from his jail cell

    Bro, how much does Capcpom pay? Hook a brotha up... If the pay is good enough, I'll renounce my lifetime vendetta here and now.

    If you're thinking traditional currency, youre SOL.

    DevilJin is mailed a cannister of Chun Li's finest dookie juice and bathwater as a token of Capcom's thanks.

    Wrong.

    It's actually Ibuki's.

    He got sent those cloth bandages Ibuki wraps around her feet after she was out training on a hot day
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  • Darc RequiemDarc Requiem The Light Emitting Darkness Joined: Posts: 8,620
    PSYCH0J0SH wrote: »
    d3v wrote: »
    po pimpus wrote: »
    I won't support this ponzi scheme. Bernie Madoff conducted this from his jail cell

    Bro, how much does Capcpom pay? Hook a brotha up... If the pay is good enough, I'll renounce my lifetime vendetta here and now.

    If you're thinking traditional currency, youre SOL.

    DevilJin is mailed a cannister of Chun Li's finest dookie juice and bathwater as a token of Capcom's thanks.

    Wrong.

    It's actually Ibuki's.

    He got sent those cloth bandages Ibuki wraps around her feet after she was out training on a hot day

    There is no way he got those from Ibuki before @Trife88
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,369
    edited April 28
    If you don't like the DLC, don't buy it.
    If you don't like MvC, I don't get it.
    :coffee:

    I don't even see the issue here, it is not like your are forced to purchase anything.
    And I have no issues with Sigma and Ultron being DLC.

    And from the start of the story they fuse, so not having those two characters isn't lore breaking.
    And if it is, who cares Story in a Fighter is like Story in a Porno. It's nice being their but you really don't need it.
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  • MageggMagegg Joined: Posts: 3,976
    po pimpus wrote: »
    snip

    This is correct... If we're talking triple A development. Capcpom has NEVER made a triple A Fighting game... You can believe their PR, but it should be obvious from a cursory observation that they do not spend as much money on their games development as other companies.
    They cut corners at every possible opportunity, and spend as little as they can to meet the barest standard of quality. Lack of polish, barebones modes and options, shit servers, and DLC/Premium/Service based post purchase content are all symptoms of Capcpom's mizer budgets. They aren't even using their own servers this go around...

    Injustice is a triple A fighting game- Say what you will about NRS, their games are not lacking in the polish and bells and whistles.
    Their games are the only triple A fighting games on the market... Everything you said describes their model far better than the half-assed shit Capcpom does to justify gouging content to sell later to squeeze a few more pennies out of their fool ass fan base.

    +1,000,000

    Capcom graphics have never been anywhere as good as Tekken or SoulCalibur graphics, for example.

    I have no idea why they dare to call their games "AAA" when even Killer Instinct has better graphics than SFV and it's free to play.
  • MageggMagegg Joined: Posts: 3,976
    edited April 28
    GomuGomu wrote: »
    In any case Tekken is always a well polished game with a good sized roster, and loads of content.
    Lots of beautiful looking stages, additional costumes for default and without extra cost.

    Remember how TTT2 got like an average 80 grade from most video game website? And SF5 what? Like a 90? When it's not even a quarter of the rich content offered in TTT2??
    There's obviously some Capcom bullshit favoritism. Some people only care about brand power and they don't realize how lacking Capcom games have been.

    Remember those "tag supers" promised in the first trailer of SFxTK? They said "fuck it", discarded them and just put two separate animations to create the illusion of a tag super (both characters never appear together on screen). FUCK, even Rival Schools had TRUE tag supers and it's a 1998 game or so. You know which games got true tag techniques with better looking graphics? Dead or Alive 5 and TTT2.

    On SFxTK, half of the roster was recycled from Street Fighter IV, and even considering how lackluster everything was, they dared to not let you play the whole game when you already had all the 'DLC' in your disk!


    I don't think this MvC:I situation will be too much different. They're extorting fans with Marvel's brand power. When they keep 15% of the characters kidnapped at launch, I think buyers should stand up and do something...
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  • willselesswillseless Joined: Posts: 2,643
    How would you Left behinders feel if they added the dlc on the mission mode for you to test it?
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