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  • NoChartNoChart Some say it's vanity, some say it's charm. Joined: Posts: 863
    po pimpus wrote: »
    She-Hulk da bes.

    No doubt.
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  • quicksquicks Joined: Posts: 3,033
    YawDan wrote: »
    Magegg wrote: »
    Tag is still preferable to assist.

    Have to disagree. Personally, I liked being able to do both like in Mvc3. But prefer assists over tagging.

    If i just wanted to tag, I'd play SFxT or Tekken Tag. Didn't want the Vc series to revert back to/become like those games.

    Why would it become like X tekken?@
    Xhominid wrote: »
    Magegg wrote: »
    Xhominid wrote: »
    which won't matter at all when Capcom almost immediately stop supporting the game within a year due to how bad of a bomb it really is, thus starting a UMvC3 situation all over again.
    I agree with everything you've said except for this. I'm pretty sure Marvel and Capcom have already mapped and agreed how they're going to handle the MvC:I business for at least 3-4 years to come and that's already a done deal Marvel can't retreat from.

    You can say that about Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3...and all that had was a single balance patch...for everything it barely had, including REMOVING MODES(Remember Shadow Battles? Pepperidge Farms remembers...and so do fucking I) and they patched it once and left it to die.

    I think Marvel will just plain dip if they don't get the sales they are expecting.

    Do you know what a contract is?

    Marvel don't have fuck all to lose, capcom takes the fall for anything they do bad
  • flickyflicky Joined: Posts: 306
    For US citizens it's currently preorder on Amazon at $42.99 instead of $60.00 so if you feel like full price is too much pre order now and you'll have money left over for the DLC.
  • flickyflicky Joined: Posts: 306
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Still costs too much for what little the game is offering. Asking $20 for this half-assed shit is pushing it.

    But we don't actually know if it's half assed yet because the game isn't even out, all we've seen are two builds of varying development. Indeed we know the roster could be better, but we'll have to see at Evo what the nature of the game is as that will be the best opportunity to make a final judgement. They might have took the criticism on board and sorted some of the stuff out by now. For all we know they'll come to Evo with a new trailer and a more complete build both graphically and mechanically that makes more people feel happy about the game.

    People should ignore that the story demo ever happened, that's the kind of product that would get sent off to the press as a PREVIEW build where they know as instructed by Capcom that the game is incomplete and to judge it as a concept solely on certain factors. It was in no way a REVIEW build which would be sent to the press at the back end of the development period for final review purposes on release.

    That's the difference between the two, top and bottom is that the story demo should never have reached the public, it should have stayed in house and only reached members of the press, the only thing the public should have played was the Vs build.

    Major PR fuck up, Disney Marvel sticking their nose in, devs bouncing off walls. A nightmare of a development but hopefully a dream of a product.
  • XhominidXhominid Knight of Dizzy Joined: Posts: 469
    quicks wrote: »

    Do you know what a contract is?

    Marvel don't have fuck all to lose, capcom takes the fall for anything they do bad

    That still doesn't take away my point in that Marvel will cut off the funding for the game and thus they won't have the chance to lose anymore by wasting needless money on a dead game.
    flicky wrote: »
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Still costs too much for what little the game is offering. Asking $20 for this half-assed shit is pushing it.

    But we don't actually know if it's half assed yet because the game isn't even out, all we've seen are two builds of varying development. Indeed we know the roster could be better, but we'll have to see at Evo what the nature of the game is as that will be the best opportunity to make a final judgement. They might have took the criticism on board and sorted some of the stuff out by now. For all we know they'll come to Evo with a new trailer and a more complete build both graphically and mechanically that makes more people feel happy about the game.

    People should ignore that the story demo ever happened, that's the kind of product that would get sent off to the press as a PREVIEW build where they know as instructed by Capcom that the game is incomplete and to judge it as a concept solely on certain factors. It was in no way a REVIEW build which would be sent to the press at the back end of the development period for final review purposes on release.

    That's the difference between the two, top and bottom is that the story demo should never have reached the public, it should have stayed in house and only reached members of the press, the only thing the public should have played was the Vs build.

    Major PR fuck up, Disney Marvel sticking their nose in, devs bouncing off walls. A nightmare of a development but hopefully a dream of a product.

    HAHAHAHAHA...You cannot be serious.
    You think they will fix the game's many, MANY problems within a month? Are you high?! This is just like the people who supported DmC: Devil May Cry stating that the game will be just fine after we seen the numerous gameplay videos months before the game was released saying they was going to fix everything when the demo came out...and the demo showed that nothing was fixed and they said wait for the game to be released as then they will fix everything...and the game came out and NOTHING WAS FIXED.

    A game goes gold when it hits 2 months to it's release, there's no way they are going to fix anything, especially after we mainly only seen them actually fix up the models and such for SFV while it was still within it's year long Beta.
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 PRAISED BEEF Joined: Posts: 54,536 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    It's hard to say what Marvel will do. Capcom says they plan to support SFV to 2020 despite the bad PR. With Marvel it might just be a 50/50 over whether they see the money and eSports exposure they are getting is worth it. Like SFV once the game is in enough eSports stuff they most likely will just stick around so their name and characters show up on TBS or ESPN every 6 months.

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  • XhominidXhominid Knight of Dizzy Joined: Posts: 469
    It's hard to say what Marvel will do. Capcom says they plan to support SFV to 2020 despite the bad PR. With Marvel it might just be a 50/50 over whether they see the money and eSports exposure they are getting is worth it. Like SFV once the game is in enough eSports stuff they most likely will just stick around so their name and characters show up on TBS or ESPN every 6 months.

    Yeah and none of that will matter with the casual consumer base who will see how shit the game is and while E-Sports will have something to salivate over and the American FGC has another Capcom game they can sleep with, you guys will end up crying when Capcom ultimately decides to let both games sleep for a REALLY long time just like before.
  • GhostTearGhostTear Abyss Walker Joined: Posts: 1,872
    Xhominid wrote: »
    It's hard to say what Marvel will do. Capcom says they plan to support SFV to 2020 despite the bad PR. With Marvel it might just be a 50/50 over whether they see the money and eSports exposure they are getting is worth it. Like SFV once the game is in enough eSports stuff they most likely will just stick around so their name and characters show up on TBS or ESPN every 6 months.

    Yeah and none of that will matter with the casual consumer base who will see how shit the game is and while E-Sports will have something to salivate over and the American FGC has another Capcom game they can sleep with, you guys will end up crying when Capcom ultimately decides to let both games sleep for a REALLY long time just like before.

    Good games will get more play. *Ahem*Skullgirls*Ahem*
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 PRAISED BEEF Joined: Posts: 54,536 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Xhominid wrote: »
    It's hard to say what Marvel will do. Capcom says they plan to support SFV to 2020 despite the bad PR. With Marvel it might just be a 50/50 over whether they see the money and eSports exposure they are getting is worth it. Like SFV once the game is in enough eSports stuff they most likely will just stick around so their name and characters show up on TBS or ESPN every 6 months.

    Yeah and none of that will matter with the casual consumer base who will see how shit the game is and while E-Sports will have something to salivate over and the American FGC has another Capcom game they can sleep with, you guys will end up crying when Capcom ultimately decides to let both games sleep for a REALLY long time just like before.

    Well we can wait til 2020 before we cry at least

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  • YawDanYawDan Joined: Posts: 651
    edited July 9
    quicks wrote: »

    Why would it become like X tekken?

    The game is SFxT. Just with more elaborate combos, more flexible tags and Marvel characters.


    On current topic, as long the game sells well (which I expect it to- I don't like the gameplay but will purchase it myself), Marvel will continue supporting it. Umvc3 had bad press because it was released full price within the same calender year as Mvc3 then Marvel declared they won't updated it despite saying they would be at the second Evo and asking for community feedback on balance updates. But the community kept the game alive and sales started to grow a couple of years ago or so.

    That said, if people like the gameplay, I really don't get what they dislike about the game so much that they wouldn't play it and would want it to 'fail'.
    Post edited by YawDan on
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  • FreezingCicadaFreezingCicada Joined: Posts: 580
    I'm questioning if the gameplay is even fun using SfxT as an example...

    Seems the emphasis so far as been fly/unfly loops from some gameplay videos. I wonder if they made it easier from Umvc3, the hard part was not fucking up and getting a TAC or going to fast and getting a special instead of a normal.
  • flickyflicky Joined: Posts: 306
    I'm questioning if the gameplay is even fun using SfxT as an example...

    Seems the emphasis so far as been fly/unfly loops from some gameplay videos. I wonder if they made it easier from Umvc3, the hard part was not fucking up and getting a TAC or going to fast and getting a special instead of a normal.

    They made it harder, there are more movement options in the game but things like air dashing across the screen are significanly harder to execute. Currently ff is the superior form of dashing as opposed to pp, although I think short hot might make that not as much of an issue.
  • AionAion Is a Pre-Madonna Joined: Posts: 1,029
    It'd be hilarious if Marvel commissions ArcSys to make the next Marvel fighting game after Capcom flops. FGC might have Capcom loyalty but Marvel sure don't.
  • YawDanYawDan Joined: Posts: 651
    Aion wrote: »
    It'd be hilarious if Marvel commissions ArcSys to make the next Marvel fighting game after Capcom flops. FGC might have Capcom loyalty but Marvel sure don't.

    Loyalty might not be the best word to use in business discussions. But Marvel have a 20+ years history with Capcom. So loyalty is as close a description of their relationship as any other word.

    At worse, I would expect it to be another 11 years before they commission another Marvel vs fighting game.
    "This was not srk. It should not be lower than gfaqs in terms of fighting game talk, but it is. That's all because of the outbreak of girly men, which is really the fault of atheism." Cisco, UMVC3 tierlist discussion, pg 333.
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 25,304
    YawDan wrote: »
    Aion wrote: »
    It'd be hilarious if Marvel commissions ArcSys to make the next Marvel fighting game after Capcom flops. FGC might have Capcom loyalty but Marvel sure don't.

    Loyalty might not be the best word to use in business discussions. But Marvel have a 20+ years history with Capcom. So loyalty is as close a description of their relationship as any other word.

    At worse, I would expect it to be another 11 years before they commission another Marvel vs fighting game.

    I wouldn't call it loyalty at all. Marvel going with Capcom is simply a safe bet. MvC series has a base and most successful when it comes to fighting games. Games like Marvel Nemesis and Avengers: Battle for Earth were failures.
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  • AionAion Is a Pre-Madonna Joined: Posts: 1,029
    It's a new age man. I doubt Marvel has any sentimentality with Capcom these days, especially after what Capcom is 'bout to release.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 35,763 mod
    I'm questioning if the gameplay is even fun using SfxT as an example...

    Seems the emphasis so far as been fly/unfly loops from some gameplay videos. I wonder if they made it easier from Umvc3, the hard part was not fucking up and getting a TAC or going to fast and getting a special instead of a normal.

    There's no TAC now, so you don't risk getting a TAC since you're not using "S" to fly. Fly itself now uses the traditional 214+KK input, so the main risk of getting a special is if you don't hit KK correctly, or if you're playing Carol, don't hit the 214 correctly (not that it matters, since her KK "lightning attack" can be comboed out of and has its own loops).
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  • flickyflicky Joined: Posts: 306
    Aion wrote: »
    It's a new age man. I doubt Marvel has any sentimentality with Capcom these days, especially after what Capcom is 'bout to release.

    They're not even the same company anymore headed by the same people, whatever relationship they had in the 90's is long gone.
  • samuel5220samuel5220 Joined: Posts: 33
    You should know that Injustice 2 and Tekken 7 are also extorting you if you have any interest in those games.

    Injustice 2 actually has a real art team and they care how the game looks, Injustice 2 is pretty much the best looking fighter of this generation and worth the asking price there lie the key difference. If you are going to be asking for this kind of money atleast deliver more than mobile graphics which is what MVCI looks like.
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 PRAISED BEEF Joined: Posts: 54,536 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I don't like the way Injustice looks. Even if they got better at it I still think the animation is jank and their backgrounds meld too much with the characters.

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  • samuel5220samuel5220 Joined: Posts: 33
    I don't like the way Injustice looks. Even if they got better at it I still think the animation is jank and their backgrounds meld too much with the characters.

    Is this a joke?

    Injustice 2 is easily the best looking fighting game of this generation observe the super amazing use of lighting in the Unreal Engine 3.9

    Capcom made SFV using UE4 and it looks nowhere remotely good as this

    injustice26.jpeg


  • samuel5220samuel5220 Joined: Posts: 33
    Best looking fighter of this generation hands down

    This is how you do realistic arstyle look at the stage with the machines moving in the background you can see NRS / WB cares how their game looks when they are calling $100 price tag they make sure to deliver. Not like MVCI with its Iphone graphics but capcom somehow thinks people will pay over $100


  • MarcOfTheBeastMarcOfTheBeast Joined: Posts: 182
    edited July 20
    @po pimpus so I played that MVC3 demo. And it's not that bad, Po. Would I pay 60 dollars for it? Hell no. The gameplay is solid but they got to come down on the price. Will the new dragonball game blow it out of the water, maybe. Also, you may not like what they did to X, after playing with Megaman in smash kind of changes your expectation of how Megaman is suppose to be in a fighting game. But it could be just my smash bias though.

    @Rayne_ @Phantom Angel @dre37k did you guys play that demo yet? Thoughts?
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,132
    Played it... Wasn't impressed. I'm gonna play it regardless, tho, so hopefully the full release is better.
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 24,373
    edited July 20
    Played it... Wasn't impressed. I'm gonna play it regardless, tho, so hopefully the full release is better.

    You're part of the problem. This is why Capcpom keeps half-assing shit.

    It's the game's job to impress you.

    If it can't do that, then it's not worth your money... The fuck is wrong with y'all's no standards having asses?
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  • MarcOfTheBeastMarcOfTheBeast Joined: Posts: 182
    Po-again, the game is not as bad as your making it out to be. Overall, I would give it a B- based off the demo. Is it worth 60 bucks? Absolutely, not. The sad part is Capcom probably realizes this. If the game was priced at 35.99-40, then I would probably buy it. I'm not 60 bucks impressed.
  • SoftShocksSoftShocks Joined: Posts: 74
    Honestly im more upset with Marvel than Capcom. If SFV did anything right, it would be Esports. I think Marvel want to cash in on that success and see their characters televised on things like Eleague to promoted their characters and movies. Hense why the current characters on the Marvel side are all movie related. I also think Marvel is pushing Capcom to get the game out ASAP. Visually, the game is clearly a rushed product. To support this, looking at the Capcom side of the roster, it pretty much recycled character. it seems like they are just making it easier for themselves to bring back Marvel 3 character as all their animation work is pretty much done. I couldn't blame them if Marvel truly is putting pressure on them to get the game out ASAP.

    Thats just my take on the whole situation.
  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel The Divine One™ Joined: Posts: 27,132
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    po pimpus wrote: »
    Played it... Wasn't impressed. I'm gonna play it regardless, tho, so hopefully the full release is better.

    You're part of the problem. This is why Capcpom keeps half-assing shit.

    It's the game's job to impress you.

    If it can't do that, then it's not worth your money... The fuck is wrong with y'all's no standards having asses?

    It's a demo. I'll judge the final product.
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 24,373
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Played it... Wasn't impressed. I'm gonna play it regardless, tho, so hopefully the full release is better.

    You're part of the problem. This is why Capcpom keeps half-assing shit.

    It's the game's job to impress you.

    If it can't do that, then it's not worth your money... The fuck is wrong with y'all's no standards having asses?

    It's a demo. I'll judge the final product.

    DmC was "just a demo" once too...
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  • The_ShakunetsuThe_Shakunetsu COULD YOU NAME ALL THE CHARACTERS APPEARED IN MY PIC? (spoilers is in my sig) Joined: Posts: 2,657
    People doesn't get it or just doesn't have understanding on how workflow is done, Software developers needs feedback a game without criticism is a game that no need to be fix or change and that's it.

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    Arcade Mode Concepts - Better than traditional Arcade Mode | Story Mode Suggestion - Battle Challenges, Battle Attack & Battle Type | V-Trigger & V-Skill Ideas

    Character Wishlist SFV, DBFZ and MVCi

    My DB Characters for DBFZ
    Solo Characters
    1.) Picolo
    2.) Killin
    3.) Kid Buu
    4.) Pikon
    5.) Hit
    6.) Broly - legendary
    7.) Super Janemba
    8.) Gotenks SSJ3
    9.) Great Ape Baby or Adult Form
    10.) Syn Shenron - can transform to Omega
    11.) Caulifa
    12.) Kale
    13.) Hirudegarn

    Pair/Tag Character - Can be either like the implementation of this characters in the named game: Choi with Chang in CVS2, Cait with Sith in Code Chaos, Hisuii with Kohaku in MB, Danny with Demi in the Outfoxies, Jie Mei Hua in Dong Dong Never Dies and Groove-&-Fight's Oume with Otane.
    14.) Android 18 with Andriod 17
    15.) Rose with Zamasu
    16.) Dr Jero with Andriod 19
    17.) Yamcha with Puar
    18.) Dabura and Babidi

    Team Character - Can be either like the implementation of this characters in the named game: Captain Commando in MVC2, Doronjo in TVC, Tronbone in MVC2 or Ace Attorney in UMVC3.
    19.) Tien - Some specials summons Chiaozu and Launch
    20.) Ginew Forces - with The Ginew Forces Plays like (Captain Commando in MVC2 or Doronjo in TVC)
    21.) Meta Cooler - Plays like Ultron in MVCi
    22.) Roshi - Some specials summons Turtle and Oolong
    23.) Napa - Summon numerous Saibamen (like Gargos Ki or Tronbone in MVC2)
    24.) Bojack

    My Capcom Characters for Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite
    SIGMA X ULTRON HENCHMEN- Consist of bounty hunters, heroes rival, dominant forces and altered or robotized Capcom characters.

    1.) Cyber Akuma - Akuma with cybernetic enhancement, Ryu's recurring rival.
    2.) Mecha Zangief - A Zangief cloned Repliod.
    3.) Devilot with Super-8 from Cyberbots. (older version that look like Doronjo and plays like Doronjo TVC and Trone bonne combined)
    4.) Cyborg Charlie Nash -MvSF Bison's Ending with Shadow lady missiles and electric shock

    CAPCOM- New Characters

    1.) Felyne - from Monster Hunter (rival to Rocket Racoon)
    2.) Hauzer - from Warzard (Godzilla and Kaiju)
    3.) Son-Son - the original son-son (male) (Goku) (plays like Tekkaman Blade in TVC)
    4.) Nina - from Breath of Fire (plot can be from the cause of using Reality Gem)
    5.) Saturn Dyer - Plasma Sword Character (The Mask) (plays like Yatterman -1 in TVC)
    6.) Tessa/Tabasa - from Warzard (her previous plots revolves on crystals involvement)
    7.) Pure and Fur - Protector of Capcom world.
    8.) Rouge - Power Stone (her previous plots revolves on acquiring power stones involvement)
    9.) Anita(Older) (DS/VS What if Character) - A like a Jojo bizzare character/persona/shaman king, summoner that summons Donovan and his sword (Touhou)
    10.) Ingrid - A crossover character
    11.) Ruby Heart - MVC2 (Magic stone involvement) Pirate
    12.) Asura - from Asura's Wrath.
    13.) Astaroth - from Ghost and Goblins size is like Dormammu or from Project-X-Zone
    14.) Nero - Devil May Cry (mix of Vergil, Dante and TVC Soki)
    15.) Shoma - Rival Schools

    MARVEL

    1.) Doom
    2.) Spider-man
    3.) Wolverine
    4.) Thanos
    5.) Venom
    6.) Cyclops

    My Characters for SF5's 3rd Season on wards

    Different Playstyle I want in SFV
    1.) Xianyu and Jianyu - as a pair fights like Choi and Chang in CVS2.
    2.) Delta Red Rep!! - Can play like Captain Commando.
    3.) Yun and Yang - play like how rival school or Capcom Fighting Jam works you can switch characters after or before round in matches.

    Characters I want to return
    1.) Haggar
    2.) Eagle
    3.) Maki
    4.) Sodom
    5.) Blanka
    6.) Lee - Drunken master
    7.) Feilong -(with Iron Fist playstyle like in UMVC3)
    8.) Necro
    9.) Oro - all projectile are now angled diagonally like Dr Fate(Injustice2) to be different from sim & other shoto
    10.) Sagat
    11.) Q
    12.) Viper

    Characters and concepts that need to explored before going to SF3 Timeline
    1.) Tom
    2.) Effie
    3.) Byron
    4.) Noembelu

    Designs I want to see again in SF
    1.) Asuka (from concept design) - play like KOF kazumi and Hokuto from SFex
    2.) Wraith (Slam Master)

    SFV Guest from SF expansions
    1.) Skullomania
    2.) Garuda
  • flickyflicky Joined: Posts: 306
    Hook line and sinker.
  • atiradoratirador Fire and Ice Joined: Posts: 1,576
    edited 11:33AM
    After the last trailer (with Spider-Man and Frank West) I'm fully supporting this game.

    It looks amazing
  • MageggMagegg Joined: Posts: 3,799
    Frank West, Nemesis, Haggar... good job recycling assets from UMvC3, Capcom.

    This game is an insult.
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