Canada explain yourselves

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edited May 19 in General Discussion


Bill C16 is going to make civil lawsuits abundant if you misuse someones gender identity. This is direct censorship and regardless of whether or not they knew, the proper pronoun is irrelevant and can be processed. So what I've learned today and that Canada is not only going down the shitter but they don't understand basic biology.
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  • FreezingCicadaFreezingCicada Joined: Posts: 626
    Canada was gone the second Trudeau was elected as the better alternative to Steven Harper.
    While its nice to be up in arms about this but honestly this whole gender issue is a huge distraction. Canada has bigger issues like Trudeau bailing out a french company bombardier.
    Under investigations for multiple private trips, M 103, Liberal broken record responses, illegals crossing into Canada from the states.

    Now, I'm sure there are trolls that would called Canada cucked to hell and back BUT I'll still wager that Canada isnt THAT bad as long liberals dont win re-election in 2019.
    If they do then I'll admit whole heartly that Canada is gone. Based on the conservative leadership race I'm not to hopeful on Maxime Bernier at all, but its better then liberals of NDP.
    (Still pissed O'Leary dropped out. Hell, I'd even take Deepak Obhrai over Bernier.)
  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,304
    Yeah that shit looks dumb as hell, hope it gets completely shitcanned.
    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,402
    civil lawsuits abundant if you misuse someones gender identity.
    LOL, what are you for reals?
    This is direct censorship.
    I agree, it is. It's why in the US verbal assault is usually tossed out in court.
    It's not nice, but you are free to call someone a FUCK FACE or what other insult you want.
    Now this is not license to go relentless and make someone break down in tears, at some point there is a line.
    regardless of whether or not they knew, the proper pronoun is irrelevant and can be processed.
    I see it like this, if someone want to be identified by another gender, just say so politely instead of getting all SJW Rage Triggered.

    Just don't use some stupid made up/fictional Genders with unclear English pronunciation like phe/pher/phis/per or what ever bullshit.
    If you want me to refer you as a IT, sure you are a it/that/them or what ever.
    And English as the least amount of gender related nouns and verbs, example in Spanish or French everything has a male or female gender tied to it.

    And if that is the case that you say you want me to use what ever gender Pronouns, sure.
    Accommodation is a two way process, and if you want me to accommodate for your life choices, you need to accommodate for me with a little understanding that I am not a mind reader.
    So what I've learned today and that Canada is not only going down the shitter
    They been doing that for a long ass time.



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  • odinodin is october coming? Joined: Posts: 15,475 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Parliament did it, I had no say in it and I don't care.

    What do you want me to do?
  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 25,850 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Do people really ignore the difference of meaning between gender and sex?

    Christ. I swear some of you are actively work to stay stupid.
    This is offensive.
  • ChiroChiro Not actually pronounced cheero Joined: Posts: 2,160
    Raz0r wrote: »
    Do people really ignore the difference of meaning between gender and sex?

    Christ. I swear some of you are actively work to stay stupid.

    they've been used interchangeably for the past i don't know how many years here by teachers and pretty much everyone else. actual gender is never brought up when discussing anything so yeah a lot of people are very confused.

  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 25,850 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Shut the fuck up.
    This is offensive.
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 20,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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  • NecrotrophicNecrotrophic Isn't a communist. Joined: Posts: 5,911
    edited May 20
    we've always had more than two genders, but with sex, we've only really had two (not counting intersex)

    male
    female
    nancygirl (feminine man)
    tomboy (masculine woman)

    gender is nothing more than a social construct, there can be as many or as few as you can think of.



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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,859
    As a Canadian, I agree entirely. However, as a Canadian, I also must say that as rocky as things have been, it's nowhere near as bad as shit was getting under Harper's crooked ass rule. I mean sure, we're never going to be as bad as the States, but the last truly good Prime Minister we had was probably Chretien.
  • locoghoullocoghoul Fuck Chun Joined: Posts: 3,950
    I can't say I'm surprised but at the same time... fuck this country.
    You want to enjoy your shit game? Go ahead. Just know that I will ALWAYS be here - po pimpus 2006-2017 RIP
  • PSYCH0J0SHPSYCH0J0SH Joined: Posts: 5,469
    Femto wrote: »
    J-ride wrote: »
    Silly laws like this one are why we need another World War.

    Kill yourself :coffee:

    You first.
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  • J-rideJ-ride OG Member Joined: Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited May 20
    Femto wrote: »
    J-ride wrote: »
    Silly laws like this one are why we need another World War.

    Kill yourself :coffee:

    I'm not killing myself until after the left vs right civil war. I want get my rainbow belt of SJW scalps first. It will be more fun that pig hunting! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,859
    PSYCH0J0SH wrote: »
    LivewireX wrote: »
    As a Canadian, I agree entirely. However, as a Canadian, I also must say that as rocky as things have been, it's nowhere near as bad as shit was getting under Harper's crooked ass rule. I mean sure, we're never going to be as bad as the States, but the last truly good Prime Minister we had was probably Chretien.

    What the fuck are you talking about? It's A THOUSAND times worse under Turd-dope.

    He let entire towns burn to the ground, leaving thousands homeless and unemployed, and refused to offer any money to rebuild or get any outside help that we desperately needed, but he spent $60 million building a mosque in that same town for the endless amounts of refugees he's letting into the country.

    Trudeau is a fucking terrorist and he needs to die like one.


    Well, thank you for saving me the time of bothering to do a lengthy response to this. You've made yourself out to be more ignorant, uninformed, delusional, and close-minded than anybody could ever hope to. So, thanks.
  • NecrotrophicNecrotrophic Isn't a communist. Joined: Posts: 5,911
    edited May 20
    Dime_x wrote: »
    we've always had more than two genders, but with sex, we've only really had two (not counting intersex)

    male
    female
    nancygirl (feminine man)
    tomboy (masculine woman)

    gender is nothing more than a social construct, there can be as many or as few as you can think of.



    Then gender is meaningless.

    People are talking about biological sex. I don't care if a man or woman identifies as a dog or a cat. I'm calling them a man or a woman.

    If "gender" now means a role or ones opinion of what they are.. then gender is as meaningless as an opinion.

    It's my opinion that dime_x is awesome and few people actually know this.

    Doesn't matter cause it's an opinion.

    Something as fluid as an undefined opinion shouldn't be law.

    Lol, what about dumb bitches that think they are male on Monday, but female on the weekend. Lol shits dumb. Leave that shit to the academics that wouldn't know the difference between a book and a fist in their ass.

    why does gender need to be tied to biological sex to have meaning?
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  • kedawakedawa . Joined: Posts: 399
    Nobody is going to get charged for not using some bogus gibberish pronouns.
    It's just a lot of fear mongering and sensationalist nonsense.
    All this law does is give trans-whatevers the same protection from discrimination that religious groups, ethnicities, and the disabled already have.
    In Canada, a landlord can't say "no blacks allowed", a business can't put out a help wanted sign that says "muslims need not apply", etc. Bill C-16 just adds "no trannies" to the naughty list.
    I agree fully with Peterson's criticisms of academia, and I understand what he's trying to push back on, but the scope of the bill being discussed is being grossly over-stated.
  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,848
    edited May 20
    Dime_x wrote: »
    we've always had more than two genders, but with sex, we've only really had two (not counting intersex)

    male
    female
    nancygirl (feminine man)
    tomboy (masculine woman)

    gender is nothing more than a social construct, there can be as many or as few as you can think of.



    Then gender is meaningless.

    People are talking about biological sex. I don't care if a man or woman identifies as a dog or a cat. I'm calling them a man or a woman.

    If "gender" now means a role or ones opinion of what they are.. then gender is as meaningless as an opinion.

    It's my opinion that dime_x is awesome and few people actually know this.

    Doesn't matter cause it's an opinion.

    Something as fluid as an undefined opinion shouldn't be law.

    Lol, what about dumb bitches that think they are male on Monday, but female on the weekend. Lol shits dumb. Leave that shit to the academics that wouldn't know the difference between a book and a fist in their ass.

    why does gender need to be tied to biological sex to have meaning?

    Why does a non issue such as gender need a law that forces people to say things they dont agree with?
    kedawa wrote: »
    Nobody is going to get charged for not using some bogus gibberish pronouns.
    It's just a lot of fear mongering and sensationalist nonsense.
    All this law does is give trans-whatevers the same protection from discrimination that religious groups, ethnicities, and the disabled already have.
    In Canada, a landlord can't say "no blacks allowed", a business can't put out a help wanted sign that says "muslims need not apply", etc. Bill C-16 just adds "no trannies" to the naughty list.
    I agree fully with Peterson's criticisms of academia, and I understand what he's trying to push back on, but the scope of the bill being discussed is being grossly over-stated.

    Lol, people are gonna get fined and jailed. Canada iant far off from europe in terms of what ita willing to jail you for.

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  • BB_HoodyBB_Hoody Nice plane you have there. Be a Shame if something went wrong in flight and it crashed Joined: Posts: 4,919
    edited May 20
    Canada was gone the second Trudeau was elected as the better alternative to Steven Harper.
    While its nice to be up in arms about this but honestly this whole gender issue is a huge distraction. Canada has bigger issues like Trudeau bailing out a french company bombardier.
    Under investigations for multiple private trips, M 103, Liberal broken record responses, illegals crossing into Canada from the states.

    Now, I'm sure there are trolls that would called Canada cucked to hell and back BUT I'll still wager that Canada isnt THAT bad as long liberals dont win re-election in 2019.
    If they do then I'll admit whole heartly that Canada is gone. Based on the conservative leadership race I'm not to hopeful on Maxime Bernier at all, but its better then liberals of NDP.
    (Still pissed O'Leary dropped out. Hell, I'd even take Deepak Obhrai over Bernier.)

    Bombardier is a Canadian based company with branches out in France and throughout Europe. They also have US branches, one of which I work for. I had no idea Bombardier needed a bail out. That makes me worried. And O leary from Shark Tan was running for office in Canada?
  • kedawakedawa . Joined: Posts: 399
    edited May 20
    Bomardier has been bailed out multiple times since the mid-nineties. The Canadian government has given them well over a billion Trudeau chuckle bucks. It's a shit show
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    Why does a non issue such as gender need a law that forces people to say things they dont agree with?

    It doesn't need a law like that, and fortunately no such law exists.
    If you actually read the bill instead of just making assumptions about what it is, maybe you would know that.
    But hey, don't let ignorance get in the way of having an opinion.
  • BB_HoodyBB_Hoody Nice plane you have there. Be a Shame if something went wrong in flight and it crashed Joined: Posts: 4,919
    edited May 20
    kedawa wrote: »
    Bomardier has been bailed out multiple times since the mid-nineties. The Canadian government has given them well over a billion Trudeau chuckle bucks. It's a shit show
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    Why does a non issue such as gender need a law that forces people to say things they dont agree with?

    It doesn't need a law like that, and fortunately no such law exists.
    If you actually read the bill instead of just making assumptions about what it is, maybe you would know that.
    But hey, don't let ignorance get in the way of having an opinion.

    I guess Bombardier is to Canada what Boeing is to the US. So they not gonna let it die. Thanks for the info. I definitely wont be making long term plans to stay here in Tucson working for Bombardier. Just gonna put in one more year for experience. Hopefully get a 2nd certification. Then either do contract work overseas or just here in the states for other business jet companies.



  • kedawakedawa . Joined: Posts: 399
    I don't think there's much risk of them shutting down. If anything they'll get bought out by one their larger competitors.
  • ChiroChiro Not actually pronounced cheero Joined: Posts: 2,160
    Dime_x wrote: »
    we've always had more than two genders, but with sex, we've only really had two (not counting intersex)

    male
    female
    nancygirl (feminine man)
    tomboy (masculine woman)

    gender is nothing more than a social construct, there can be as many or as few as you can think of.



    Then gender is meaningless.

    People are talking about biological sex. I don't care if a man or woman identifies as a dog or a cat. I'm calling them a man or a woman.

    If "gender" now means a role or ones opinion of what they are.. then gender is as meaningless as an opinion.

    It's my opinion that dime_x is awesome and few people actually know this.

    Doesn't matter cause it's an opinion.

    Something as fluid as an undefined opinion shouldn't be law.

    Lol, what about dumb bitches that think they are male on Monday, but female on the weekend. Lol shits dumb. Leave that shit to the academics that wouldn't know the difference between a book and a fist in their ass.

    why does gender need to be tied to biological sex to have meaning?

    What other meaning would it possibly have? Why should we bother labeling one thing a gender and not just call the person weird.

    Same thing with sexuality it serves no purpose to get anymore descriptive beyond gay/straight/bi. You can call yourself demisexual that just means you're bi. Sexuality is literally what sex are you attracted to and there are only two options to pick from not counting birth defects.

  • FemtoFemto Joined: Posts: 4,664
    PSYCH0J0SH wrote: »
    Femto wrote: »
    J-ride wrote: »
    Silly laws like this one are why we need another World War.

    Kill yourself :coffee:

    You first.

    I'm too important, so that's not happening.
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