The Street Fighter V General: Orbs, Orbs Everywhere

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  • AlkipotAlkipot Mayoral Upper! Joined: Posts: 2,035
    So, is anyone forming opinions on Abigail's bad matchups? I think Guile and Urien are going to be a bitch to deal with.

    BTW Any Ibuki players wanna look me up on CFN and check my casual match vs the last Ibuki I played while using Abigail? There's probably something I could've done to avoid that asskicking...

    Not this Ibuki though...


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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,967 mod
    edited July 31
    She wasn't bad in Season 1, just not great. She won the very first CPT event so that was already a show of what the character was capable of as far as momentum. She made her mark in potential extremely early. Whereas say Dhalsim has yet to win a CPT to this day IIRC and the best Fang could do was top 8 stuff with a world class player.

    She wasn't as safe to pressure with in Season 1, but now she gets more reward off her pressure than most of the other cast in the game while having decent neutral.

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  • TWINBLADESTWINBLADES OFFICIALLY THE WORST PLAYER ON SRK LEAGUE: BRONZE LP: 200 Joined: Posts: 10,095
    Jesus Laura defenders are straight cancer. I know what you niggas are doing and it's despicable.



    Wolfkrone plays Laura way more patient then IDom does. He used to be a spaz but something happened and his style changed. I don't think Krone believes he can win playing like IDom. He stated something like this on stream some time ago.


    Even 801 plays more aggressive and he's known to be one of the calmest Laura players.
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  • VhoziteVhozite Free Meek Mill Joined: Posts: 3,714
    So is there a way to see how many CPT events a character has won?
  • AlkipotAlkipot Mayoral Upper! Joined: Posts: 2,035
    I think what keeps Laura from being this "SSSS+ tier unstoppable god plz nerf!" is the fact that she's super free on KD. Even Rog has the same weakness, but they're both still great characters. That said, I have nothing to complain about with her s2-2.5 changes, as I do feel she was mediocre in s1, hence the one tourney win in s1 when no one knew wtf they were doing
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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 5,188
    IDom made laura look like fun to play and play against.
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 10,284
    edited July 31
    What happened is that Idom got destroyed at NLBC by Punk a few days ago, he woke up and understood that the only way to go far with Laura in tournament is to have immaculate defense.
    That or he watched every single video of Punk and figured him out like an equation.
    NCK_Feroce wrote: »

    So if you have good spacing on your normals you can whiff punish? That's amazing tech!!!

    @Vhozite http://rank.shoryuken.com/stats/index/SF5
    You might wanna look closer though as it counts non-CPT events too.
    [SFV] Laura (Sakura, Cody?) [3S] Alex, Ken
    [Xrd] Leo [BBCF] Bullet
    [UNIEL] Orie [T7] Claudio
    [MvCI] Thanos and something else
  • Trife88Trife88 Joined: Posts: 7,832
    Juri beats Laura
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,967 mod
    edited July 31
    @Alkipot I watched your match vs that Megaman Ibuki (the one that won 2 in ranked). Basically, you don't play any actual footsies or neutral with Abigail. You just run and do special moves and you can't play against an Ibuki that can actually play neutral somewhat like the one you fought and expect to win. He eventually tags you with a s.MK or target chain and you get put into knockdown pressure or EX kunai damage/reset.

    Stop doing all those special moves and just learn to use your buttons a bit first. Press some s.MP, fish him out at range with some c.MK or s.LK and go from there. Then when you get him afraid of the neutral the run stuff might be a bit more effective. If you're just picking random points to run and flip you're just going to lose a lot vs every character that way.

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  • MilesRieyMilesRiey Cavalry is here Joined: Posts: 5,620
    Trife88 wrote: »
    Juri beats Laura

    Laura's st.MP has more range than Juri's

    Just let that sink in for a second
    Semi-retired from FGs for now :V
  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,194
    Quick question, can Abigail scratch his own nose, or are his biceps too big for his arms to bend enough?
  • AlkipotAlkipot Mayoral Upper! Joined: Posts: 2,035
    Yeah I just looked up some of his frame data, didn't know cr. mp is a horrible punish tool due to slow startup and how good st. mp is. One thing I did read and gotta practice is vskilling when people neutral jump the run for a punish.

    I lose a lot with Abigail but I'm slowly starting to see why.
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  • Dead_RikimaruDead_Rikimaru Joined: Posts: 195
    edited July 31
    Whereas say Dhalsim has yet to win a CPT to this day IIRC and the best Fang could do was top 8 stuff with a world class player.
    Do you mean season 2?
    Because last year Filipino Champ and Xian won a couple each with those characters.

    Dhalsim:
    https://capcomprotour.com/thunderstruck-4-results/
    https://capcomprotour.com/latin-america-two-north-america-two-results/

    FANG:
    https://capcomprotour.com/online-ranking-event-asia-oceania-one-and-latin-america-one-results/
    https://capcomprotour.com/ranking-tournament-moscow-fighting-arena-2016-results/
  • Evil CanadianEvil Canadian T.Hawk is a good guy Joined: Posts: 9,560
    ZioSerpe wrote: »
    I am watching Abuget cup right now, and I feel the need to ask this question again:
    When did Daigo eat an obese person? I see no other way he could have possibly become that fat

    Daigo gets fat
    daigo starts winning
    daigo becomes obese
    daigo becomes a god again
  • Evil CanadianEvil Canadian T.Hawk is a good guy Joined: Posts: 9,560
    Alkipot wrote: »
    Yeah I just looked up some of his frame data, didn't know cr. mp is a horrible punish tool due to slow startup and how good st. mp is. One thing I did read and gotta practice is vskilling when people neutral jump the run for a punish.

    I lose a lot with Abigail but I'm slowly starting to see why.

    I've been losing a lot with abigail too but each loss is a learning experience. Now that day 1 is over the ez move stuff like everyone being terrified of the run is over so you just gonna have to work hard to get those wins in cause it won't be easy until you understand matchups as everyone can just kinda go derp on him and its difficult for him to deal with.

    The light is at the end of the tunnel though, pure abigail induced euphoria!!!!!
  • Heat_SleepHeat_Sleep I'm your Ch-Ch-Ch-Cherry Bomb Joined: Posts: 1,606
    Fun fact: The english VO for Abigail also does the voice for the announcer in SMB4.
  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 5,188
    Is there a way I can find the name of rage quitters and black list them?
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,967 mod
    Whereas say Dhalsim has yet to win a CPT to this day IIRC and the best Fang could do was top 8 stuff with a world class player.
    Do you mean season 2?
    Because last year Filipino Champ and Xian won a couple each with those characters.

    Dhalsim:
    https://capcomprotour.com/thunderstruck-4-results/
    https://capcomprotour.com/latin-america-two-north-america-two-results/

    FANG:
    https://capcomprotour.com/online-ranking-event-asia-oceania-one-and-latin-america-one-results/
    https://capcomprotour.com/ranking-tournament-moscow-fighting-arena-2016-results/

    Mexico?

    Online?

    Moscow?


    Eh...I guess.

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  • Dead_RikimaruDead_Rikimaru Joined: Posts: 195
    edited July 31
    Whereas say Dhalsim has yet to win a CPT to this day IIRC and the best Fang could do was top 8 stuff with a world class player.
    Do you mean season 2?
    Because last year Filipino Champ and Xian won a couple each with those characters.

    Dhalsim:
    https://capcomprotour.com/thunderstruck-4-results/
    https://capcomprotour.com/latin-america-two-north-america-two-results/

    FANG:
    https://capcomprotour.com/online-ranking-event-asia-oceania-one-and-latin-america-one-results/
    https://capcomprotour.com/ranking-tournament-moscow-fighting-arena-2016-results/

    Mexico?

    Online?

    Moscow?


    Eh...I guess.

    But... but.. but.. They are CPT :s

    BTW, notice that Filipino's online win was over the then unknown Punk.
  • Trife88Trife88 Joined: Posts: 7,832
    edited July 31
    MilesRiey wrote: »
    Trife88 wrote: »
    Juri beats Laura

    Laura's st.MP has more range than Juri's

    Just let that sink in for a second

    It seems like your enabling your own defeat before the battle. I don't give a damn about her st.MP or her st.MK. Juri's purpoes is to kill, so kill that bitch. And if you can't, you Mirror match the Laura :^l

    Edit: But seriously, I had no complaints during Season 1 about Laura/Mika and I don't now. When those two characters black out, you have to respect it. If you go to training mode and replicate the ass whoopin' you'll realize it's just not about the setup/execution..you can't training mode the conditioning/oki they just put you in...and you can't replicate that emotion you feel once you're in it...only thing to do is keep a clear mind when fighting a Laura..Mika...and even Ibuki's pum pum ass

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  • NCK_FeroceNCK_Feroce Capcom cheated on me Joined: Posts: 3,497

    So if you have good spacing on your normals you can whiff punish? That's amazing tech!!!

    You don't need to react, you can use your st.mk again since your opponent can't reach. It's just an unmoving shimmy,Akuma and Laura st.mk's forward movement tricks the opponent since their hurtboxes retreats quickly before the opponent button can reach them. Obviously a Laura user noticed that time ago,but who hasn't too much experience against her or Akuma feel surprised about that.
  • Trife88Trife88 Joined: Posts: 7,832
    edited July 31
    Also lay off Punk's loses to Akuma and Laura...I guess people think Karin is literally the best character in the game or Karin actually beats those 2 characters on some 6-4 shit....she really doesn't...it can go either way

    I'm not sure if Akuma/Laura deals more optimal damage than Karin but I do know Laura has the upper hand on health and all it takes it 2 mix ups..so shit will literally just happen

    Everyone is leveling up..it's not just Punk..and again TOKIDO WON EVO...I really don't pay any mind to SFV tier list due to this..the game is still a baby and it seems shit is changing day by day

    Edit: Shit..I think Infiltration again started this trend where you now have to not lose at all after streaking for more than 2-3 seasons...well we could go into sports because it's the same shit with MJ or Lebron...mehhh i need some coffee
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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 5,188
    Ugh too many people rage quitting today
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  • delete_medelete_me Joined: Posts: 349
    MilesRiey wrote: »
    delete_me wrote: »
    Laura is such a dumb POS. They should revert her to Season 1 (maybe let her keep EX command grab buffs) because she was completely underrated then and nowhere near as bad as everyone said she was. People just weren't playing dumb enough with her.

    No mate she was bad tbh, all these buffs were necessary to keep her viable tbh, though those nerfs in season 2.5 really brought her down tbh so she may need more buffs tbh. All hail bonita.

    Getting rid of invincible reversals was Laura's biggest buff anyway. No need to make pretty much every other aspect of her kit better as well except for the slight damage reduction on Bolt Charges.

    I'm also not just blindly following the hate train. Technically Laura is my main (by matches played and character level) so I know first-hand how stupid she can be and how many opponents are unable to deal with her flowchart pressure.
  • Trife88Trife88 Joined: Posts: 7,832
    I reaaaaaaaaaaaaallllly want to see high level Aby vs Necalli tho
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,967 mod
    I told you guys Akuma was good and you have to live with that.


    Once they gave him +25 health, it was a wrap for Evo

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  • Trife88Trife88 Joined: Posts: 7,832
    Everyone is good in SFV. Akuma could be gooder. Why even keep his teleport in it's current state? Nobody uses it. They should buff it in Season 3 and give him back his stHK loop ;)
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,967 mod
    Genistar wrote: »
    Is there a way I can find the name of rage quitters and black list them?

    There was a list of rage quitters for Season 1, but now that rage quitters lose a lot of points for quitting too often I guess people don't find the thread necessary anymore.


    If you're getting rage quit on a lot I assume you're below Platinum rank. I noticed when I was using my PC account that a lot of Silvers and Golds still liked to rage quit. Guess they just know they have no chance of getting any farther so there's nothing to lose. Get your rank up and you'll most likely see less quits.

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    Why is this a problem?

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