Are we not just getting too old?

flickyflicky Joined: Posts: 349
Of all the discussions and arguments about X-Men, something about me just feels that maybe I'm and we're just getting a bit too old. I'm 35 now, I used to read Marvel comics and watched 90's X-Men on Fox Kids, and when 1996 hit and XMvSF came about it was a dream come true to see these characters animated in the game, unfortunately I wouldn't play it till years later. But to finally have Rogue, Gambit, Cyclops on CPS2, you know the feeling.

But thinking about it, that was 20 years ago, a child could have been born in 1996, could be 21 years old now in the FGC and might look back on the 90's X-Men in the same way I look back on 60's Batman. We don't see people demanding that NRS put KAPOW, BANG, SPLASH, KAPLAT and all sorts of slapstick effects in Injustice, the game is up to date, even to the point of Harley Quin being her Suicide Squad incarnation, and some Infinite haters actually praise NRS on what a good job they've done.

I find that a bit odd. Are we not just becoming really grumpy old autistic men being too set in our ways and totally afraid of change? I kind of feel like I am. I have to admit, I love GotG, so if Rocket, Groot, Gamora and Star Lord are in the game I'll be absolutely buzzing. I was watching Flash and Arrow TV series and thought to my self, "this is some Tokusatsu shit", but some of the new Marvel movies are actually really good.

Don't get me wrong I want X-Men in this game more than any other, but I kind of feel passionate in the same way someone in their 60's feels about Batman, I honestly haven't watched any of the new X-Men movies.

At some point you have to let go, I think Marvel have a good point that a lot of young people won't even recognise X-Men in the same way we do, and for the base roster to be MCU based is probably the best stategical move. I hate to admit it but it's true, Fox have their own canon now, it doesn't really mix with what else is going on in the MCU and the Infinite storyline, it's kind of understandable. It's a cunts trick, but understandable.

And here's hoping we'll get an X-Men DLC pack, they might not be in the base roster but it gives Marvel and Fox some time to properly represent Fox's characters and implement them into the game in a way that keeps both parties happy. Quite frankly I think in MvC3 we were spoiled.

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  • PSYCH0J0SHPSYCH0J0SH Joined: Posts: 5,433
    No. Next question.
  • flickyflicky Joined: Posts: 349
    PSYCH0J0SH wrote: »
    No. Next question.

    You're 12 this doesn't apply to you.
  • dizzynecrodizzynecro Joined: Posts: 685
    I definitely get the feeling that this game wasn't made for me, if that's what you mean.
  • samuel5220samuel5220 Joined: Posts: 60
    edited July 12
    Korbidon wrote: »
    This is idiotic. 'Young people' who would buy this game know exactly who the X-Men are and the only reason they are not in the game is because Marvel is pissed they sold the film rights.

    You think more people know who Captain Marvel is, or Wolverine?

    Don't be daft.

    Funny you should say that, I had literally no clue who Captain Marvel was until I first saw MVCI trailer I thought she was actually Jean Grey.

    I think its idiotic to suggest that nobody knows who is Wolverine especially given the new Logan movie just a few months ago. Who could not know who Wolverine is? this is stupid, thats like asking who is Arnold Schwarzenegger
  • otoriotori RTSD Joined: Posts: 6,129
    Shut up fischbs
  • samuel5220samuel5220 Joined: Posts: 60
    NickRocks wrote: »
    no, the 3d models of the new games look objectively terrible

    Because they seemed to have hired wack ass unqualified artists for this game.

    It is obvious Capcom is treating MVCI as a cash grab because of its name and only its name they think suckers will fall for it and fork over all their money.

    There is absolutely NO reason at all that Capcom couldn't find the original team who made UMVC3.

    Wasn't it clear by now that people were very upset how Ken looks like a tranny in SFV with Banana Hair? Or the fact that Ryu looks like Hulk? or pot belly Alex who looks like a T Hawk. Then lied and said they would release SF3 Classic Alex as a DLC but never did.

    Its not impossible to get competent artists they did it for UMVC3 they did it for SF3 3rd Strike hell they did it for MVC2. I repeat there is no reason they can't get people qualified. It can be done, UDON comics has sick talent the people exist look at Arc Systems their artists are light years ahead of anyone else.

    Capcom probably figures everybody is suckers and will buy it regardless because of its name.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 35,772 mod
    samuel5220 wrote: »
    NickRocks wrote: »
    no, the 3d models of the new games look objectively terrible

    Because they seemed to have hired wack ass unqualified artists for this game.

    It is obvious Capcom is treating MVCI as a cash grab because of its name and only its name they think suckers will fall for it and fork over all their money.

    There is absolutely NO reason at all that Capcom couldn't find the original team who made UMVC3.

    Why the fuck would you want 8ing to touch another Marvel game. As good as 3 turned out, it's pretty obvious that they don't understand the small details that made the older games work. Stuff like how the combo system worked, to small details like how character's aerial attacks get turned around when they're crossed under. 3 was made to look and replicate this general concept of "Mahvel" craziness, but the stuff under the hood was quite different.
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  • samuel5220samuel5220 Joined: Posts: 60
    edited July 12
    d3v wrote: »
    samuel5220 wrote: »
    NickRocks wrote: »
    no, the 3d models of the new games look objectively terrible

    Because they seemed to have hired wack ass unqualified artists for this game.

    It is obvious Capcom is treating MVCI as a cash grab because of its name and only its name they think suckers will fall for it and fork over all their money.

    There is absolutely NO reason at all that Capcom couldn't find the original team who made UMVC3.

    Why the fuck would you want 8ing to touch another Marvel game. As good as 3 turned out, it's pretty obvious that they don't understand the small details that made the older games work. Stuff like how the combo system worked, to small details like how character's aerial attacks get turned around when they're crossed under. 3 was made to look and replicate this general concept of "Mahvel" craziness, but the stuff under the hood was quite different.

    I meant the artists.

    For the record I would love for this game to return to MVC ONE from the 90's
  • tenyardmiketenyardmike Hyper Bomb Everything Joined: Posts: 1,245
    You can't say X-Men are "too old" or that "people might not remember the X-men", when we've had a new X-Men movie almost every year now and unfortunately they do pretty well in the box office. Shit, one is being made RIGHT NOW.

    There is nothing to look into. Combofeind said something dumb in order to sell the game he's working on.
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  • samuel5220samuel5220 Joined: Posts: 60
    edited July 12
    NOBODY REMEMBERS this movie that came out in 2014 why would they remember the greatest movie of 2014? with a trailer that has 34 million views? NOBODY knows about this movie.




  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,064
    Greatest movie? Someone has low standards.
  • Zane HitsurugiZane Hitsurugi X-buster, ready. Joined: Posts: 891
    edited July 13
    Xmen are infinitely more well known and liked than captain marvel ever has or will be. Kids also dont read comics. Find another excuse, Flicky.
    Oh damn, AND this nigga shit on toku? Your new name is Fuckey for that one.
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  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,064
    The Xmen aren't popular schtick is ultimately just an attempt to downplay one of their most popular franchises ever. Honestly if it wasn't for the Xmen I probably wouldn't have read comics. The fact that kids don't read comics actually helps FOX honestly. They don't realize how shitty the movies are in comparison /old man
  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,015
    edited July 14
    I'm one of the few I guess but I've never really loved the x men. They are boring vanilla versions of much better and more interesting characters out there. meh.


    Would love to see more superheroes out of the norm, or x men in full form like night crawlers opening scene in that one x men movie.

    Still, if they ain't got shit like this going on, then give some other heroes a chance:


    Gettin' my derp on.
  • KorbidonKorbidon Who can stand against such abominations? Joined: Posts: 4,335
    The Xmen aren't popular schtick is ultimately just an attempt to downplay one of their most popular franchises ever. Honestly if it wasn't for the Xmen I probably wouldn't have read comics. The fact that kids don't read comics actually helps FOX honestly. They don't realize how shitty the movies are in comparison /old man

    A lot of marvel movies are better than marvel comics.

    I'd wager a months salary on the captain marvel movie being better than any of her comics.

    And iron man is fucking riri Williams lol
  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,064
    edited July 14
    Of course it's subjective, but if one had to go? As a fan I'd lose all the movies first, before getting rid of all the comics.
    Riri is pretty dope, but Iron Man still has a book no? (I don't buy shit anymore and haven't for like 10 years.) My fandom
    is rooted in nostalgia which is also one of the things the movies bank on.
  • GreenwoodGreenwood Earth, the only true God Joined: Posts: 885
    edited July 14
    flicky wrote: »
    Are we not just becoming really grumpy old autistic men being too set in our ways and totally afraid of change?

    Not everything that older people dislike has to do with us becoming "grumpy old men". A lot of things today really do suck shit. There is way too much content made by people that have no business making content. And the fact that it's affordable and easy to do compounds the issue. .

    The fact that I think 99% of all music made in the past 5 years is mindless trash that requires zero skill to write and produce might just be me being a grumpy old man. But I don't think we're being old men on the issue you're talking about.
    Combofeind said something dumb in order to sell the game he's working on.

    I know people are getting on Combofiend, but I think he was kind of hamstrung on what he could say. I'm sure he wanted to say "Yeah, I know. No X-Men is fucking wack and stupid", but he couldn't say that and he had to try to put a positive spin on it. He was in a lose/lose situation.
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  • GhostTearGhostTear Abyss Walker Joined: Posts: 1,900
    To answer OP's question:

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