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  • VoltVolt The Ultra Plastic Warrior Joined: Posts: 2,446
    WaveFlame wrote: »
    Been awhile since I played UNIEL, and I never used her, but I hear rumblings that Orie might not be in because Weiss seems pretty similar to her in terms of gameplay?

    Nah, Orie and Weiss can be entirely different in terms of gameplay. Orie has her own "persona" thing, that can attack with it's sword or create a damaging force field. She also fights with kicks. Weiss can make those magical platforms and uses element spells. The only thing they both share is their type of weapon.

    That would be the same as saying that Yuzuriha can't be in because of Jin Kisaragi.

    Well, at least I hope so, since I want to play Orie/Weiss in this game.

    Orie is closer to Mitsuru than Weiss.

    Then again, I doubt any UNI character will be cut. Too small of a roster.
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  • MylziletoMylzileto Joined: Posts: 30
    I don't think so. It's definitely got the smallest roster between the three with pre-existing assetts, but it's not exactly sf2, or smash 64, either. 20 characters as of ST, counting guests, compared to P4AU's 22, counting DLC. I don't expect rwby to get too many characters, since they require entirely new assets, but getting 20 from Uni would mean 20-ish from the other series (except rwby, but even then, just four would be kinda disappointing), which is the entire launch roster of P4AU, and over half of BBCF's roster. Which actually sounds incredible. I don't care if it takes until next christmas, I want them to go batshit insane with this. I want Flynt Coal, and Emerald, and Mercury, and Tyrian, and, since I'm already talking out my ass, why not throw in Tucker or Sarge or someone from RvB. I want Tatsuya, and Joker (with a color based on one of the Persona 2 Jokers), and Minato and the Demi-fiend (or at least someone from core SMT.). But that's just dreaming. To take things seriously, I do think we can expect seven from each to be a lowball (again, except probably rwby). If those scrolling lists stay, they can easily have arrows added to the side, or be made longer, or something. Besides, just seven from BB sounds stupid as hell, as does it being the only one with a decent roster count. If I were to intentionally overestimate, then my guesses would be that BB will get most of the CT cast, plus the others that we've seen, plus maybe two or three more, Persona will get the investigation team, most of sees, and two or three more, UNI will get the original cast (that is original uni, before el, when it was japan only), maybe drop one or two for Byakuya, or Wagner, or whomever, and rwby will get team rwby, and, at most, four more, pulled from team jnpr (Jaune and Phyrra moreso than Ren and Nora) and the villains from the first three seasons (Roman, Neo, Emerald, Mercury, Cinder, Adam). Even after all that though, I'd prefer to avoid speculating on the etc tab. It has too much potential. All I'll say is that it's going to be either kinda dissappointing after all the unculled hype, wildly crazy and full of left fielders, or removed entirely. Hopefully this hasn't been too annoying or cringe-worthy to read, and hopefully I didn't miss any typos.
  • VoltVolt The Ultra Plastic Warrior Joined: Posts: 2,446
    Thing is, BB has way too many characters. Imagine only picking 20 out of CF's cast. Even if you cut the less popular and story-irrelevant characters, you still have to make some big cuts to fill everyone in.

    On the other hand, game runs in a modified BB engine, with most of the characters having sprites ready. It's mostly a matter of adaptating their moves and frame data to the new game, which is troublesome, but takes less time than drawing sprites.

    P4AU has 22 characters, UNIst has 20, BBCF has 36. All of them mostly ready. Let's be honest here, the roster of this thing will be gigantic, and that's not counting DLC.

    We already have 16 characters and we're not even through the safe, obvious characters yet.
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,910
    Yeah, with the amount we have and not being through all of those yet, it wouldn't at all be surprising to me if the roster was 36 or even 40 characters. Fuck, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be more.
  • LarsMastersLarsMasters Joined: Posts: 133
    Mylzileto wrote: »
    I'm not sure how willing ArcSys would be to make even more entirely new sprite sets for this game. Ruby and Weiss don't even look finished yet, and I doubt they're the only two rwby characters in the game. That said, the game being as early as it is, and the demand for Kajun in CF being what it is, I could also see her getting in because they might already be making sprites for her in that. Seriously, for all we know this could be an entire year away, coming next holiday season, that should give plenty of time to finish those up, and get those other newcomers we all want. A bit less on topic, but the more I think on it, the more I think Azrael needs a Demi-fiend pallette in this. They're both shirtless, tattooed bare-fisted powerhouses with absurd physical strength, and Azrael's attitude and beliefs fit very much in line with those of SMT's various Chaos groups, which the Demi-fiend joined in his game's bonus/golden/most difficult ending. That or Heat, since he eats people too.

    Edit: Should probably clarify for those less aware of the Persona series that the the Demi-Fiend and Heat are both from the series that Persona spun off from (and shares a continuity with, kinda).

    Not to mention Under Night In-Birth cast on their revamp sprites progressare still at work, also their 2nd Distortion Drive. But don’t worry, RWBY & UNI cast”s said completions along with English dub will be finalized around let say over 75 or 80 to 100%. We’ll find out soon next year.
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  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 11,023
    I'm wondering how ASW is going to approach DLC and if BBTAG will have any at all

    I'd imagine they could pick 1 character from each franchise and release them every 3 or so months
    or do straight up themed packs of 3-4 characters from a single franchise

    Or maybe ASW is fine with how the roster will be looking like by the time we're done with the reveals
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  • CyberPhoenix0252CyberPhoenix0252 Joined: Posts: 544
    Hecatom wrote: »
    I am surprised that no one is talking about the trailer hinting that the next reveal would probably include chars from a different series from the announced so far

    I'm not going to get my hopes up about it tbh, but you know what? I'd be down for having a couple of characters from outside the main four being in the game.

    And by that, I mean just Jojo and Hnk lol.

    PVL_93_RU wrote: »
    I'm wondering how ASW is going to approach DLC and if BBTAG will have any at all

    I'd imagine they could pick 1 character from each franchise and release them every 3 or so months
    or do straight up themed packs of 3-4 characters from a single franchise

    Or maybe ASW is fine with how the roster will be looking like by the time we're done with the reveals

    I'd be down with the packs, so long as they're relatively cheap since they'd be filled with characters recycled from other games; unless they do a RWBY DLC pack, I could see the justification for having them being more expensive.
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,910
    I could be wrong, but since the person talking at the end of the trailer saying something like "you guys are also into this?" is JP Noel, it leads me to think that it's hinting towards Tsubaki and Makoto being next, if anything.
  • CyberPhoenix0252CyberPhoenix0252 Joined: Posts: 544
    I wonder if the next reveal will be at PSX. It ought to be a good opportunity to reveal a ton of new characters in one fell swoop.
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  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 11,023
    I wonder if the next reveal will be at PSX. It ought to be a good opportunity to reveal a ton of new characters in one fell swoop.

    Arcsys haven't been at any of the previous PSX events, kinda doubt it's gonna change this time
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  • MylziletoMylzileto Joined: Posts: 30
    If they are hinting at Tsubaki and Makoto, it probably means they'll be revealed in the same video. And since the last time we got two BB reveals at once, we also got Weiss. Which means a Blake reveal could be coming soon. That, or they could be preparing to drop Joker shaped bombshell on us.
  • UkioUkio Old School Noob Joined: Posts: 226
    So, the full list of characters until today is...?
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  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 11,023
    edited November 20
    Ukio wrote: »
    So, the full list of characters until today is...?

    BlazBlue
    - Ragna
    - Jin
    - Noel
    - Hazama
    - Rachel
    - Azrael

    Persona
    - Yu
    - Yosuke
    - Chie
    - Yukiko

    UNIEL
    - Hyde
    - Linne
    - Waldstein
    - Gordeau

    RWBY
    - Ruby
    - Weiss
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  • HecatomHecatom Aka Black Gorilla (・Д・)ノ Joined: Posts: 23,806
    At this rate i think that the roster will go over 30 at launch
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  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 11,023
    I'll make a wager and say these characters have at least a chance of being added


    from Blazblue
    - Kokonoe
    - Taokaka
    - Tsubaki
    - Celica
    - Hakumen
    - Terumi
    - Makoto
    - Relius
    - Bang
    - Tager

    ^ all those characters have a connection to already included roster members, also some of them like Hakumen, Tager, Tao, Bang have been in the series since the beginning

    from UNIEL
    - Orie
    - Hilda
    - Seth
    - Enkidu
    - Wagner
    - Phonon
    - Mika
    - Chaos

    ^ all of those characters are members of organizations involved in UNIEL's main conflict/story. This leaves out Carmine, Merkava, Vatista, Yuzuriha, Nanase, and Byakuya, who are not related to either of the organizations. And of course Akatsuki and Eltnum, since they're guest characters from other franchises. Although Nanase, Yu and Vatista do have connections to the above-mentioned characters.


    from Persona
    - Kanji
    - Teddie
    - Rise
    - Naoto

    ^ 4 remaining members of the Investigation Team from Persona 4, the other 4 already announced characters (Yu, Yukiko, Yosuke, Chie) also being its members. Especially Teddie because he knew Yu, Yosuke and Chie even before the events of P4


    from RWBY
    - Blake
    - Yang

    ^ the "duh" tier inclusions as they're the two remaining members of Team RWBY from the show, and two of the show's main characters. Probably will remain the only RWBY characters in the game until at a later date, if ArcSys decides to do DLC for BBTAG
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  • MylziletoMylzileto Joined: Posts: 30
    So, do Makoto and Tsubaki have anything in common not related to Noel? Because I have an idea. What if the rwby charactes are being revealed alongside two bb characters each that are connected by both plot, and a main character? Hazama and Rachel were behind the scenes chessmaster types that convinced other characters to do things to durther their own goals, and were both connected to Ragna's obligatory tragic backstory. I only really look up lore for characters I like, so I don't know much about Noel and them, but if I'm right about enough things, this would imply that Yang will come with two characters connected to Jin, which to me says Hakumen and Izayoi, as alternate selves of pre-existing characters that act very differently then the originals. This is three+ layers of pure conjecture on top of each other, so there's plenty of points of failure, but I'm willing to make that bet when the only stakes are my credibilty concerning predictions, and this kind of thing is fun anyways, so I might as well share.

    Also, concerning the above list of predictions, I think that Carmine, Vatista, and Merkava are pretty safe. Not quite on the short list, like Kanji or Bang, but pretty safe. More so than Mika and Enkidu, at least. But maybe that's just my favoritism talking, since I play two of those characters.
  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,910
    Well if you're meaning "in relation to other characters", Makoto's a squirrel beastkin (similar to Blake being a cat faunus), so yeah you could have her in the same reveal thing as like Teddie and Blake if you wanted to do some "animal themed trailer". As for Tsubaki...that's harder to say other than that she looks and has a weapon really similar to Pyrrha from RWBY.

    In regards to anything in common with each other that doesn't involve being friends with each other and Noel, or simply "being female", both of them switch their allegiances at different points in the story and all that, I guess.
  • MylziletoMylzileto Joined: Posts: 30
    Damn, I thought I had something. Until Blake's reveal sets a pattern for the rwby trailers (rwby and two bb, rwby and two from the same series, or rwby and just whoever) we can't really make anything resembling a educated guess for their reveals. Man, this brings me back to when me my friends were speculating on the smash 4 roster back in high school. I remember I was convinced that the actual leak that happened just before the japanese release was fake because it had the duck hunt dog.
  • UkioUkio Old School Noob Joined: Posts: 226
    Hopes and dorimos

    - Blazblue
    Bang
    Hakumen

    It will be weird if we don't have any doll (Lambda, Mu...) or Hazama

    - Persona
    Kanji
    Mitsuru
    Akihiko

    Didn't played much uniel, sorry.

    Also, would be interesting to have non Persona characters with Shadow version.
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,910
    Well, Hazama's already in, and if we;re getting a Murakumo Unit, it'd probably be Nu-13, and she'd probably show up in a trailer with Hilda from UNIEL or something.
  • UkioUkio Old School Noob Joined: Posts: 226
    LivewireX wrote: »
    Well, Hazama's already in, and if we;re getting a Murakumo Unit, it'd probably be Nu-13, and she'd probably show up in a trailer with Hilda from UNIEL or something.

    You're right, my bad.
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  • Monkey66Monkey66 Joined: Posts: 1,434
    At this point Blake and Yang should be revealed together
  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,910
    For some odd reason that made me laugh more than it should have. Not to say it's funny, just hey, lol.
  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 11,023
    Tager, Makoto, Es, and Nu-13 have been just officially confirmed.

    That makes it a total of 10 BlazBlue characters
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