whats the best

dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
edited August 3 in Tech Talk
dual shock pad designed for fighters? i hated ps3 d pad, ps4s d pad is thin and seems easy on the thumb. the original ps1 pad not the ds, had heavy buttons and it felt weird. i bought one cause alot here said it was good, but i didn't like it sadly. i mostly used the ds 2 to me i find the ds 2, and ps4 being the best suited for fighters. what do you guys say?
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  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    why whatever do you mean sir
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,260
    why whatever do you mean sir
    Your first post is hard to decipher.
    What is Best (In life)
    Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. -Conan, Conan the Barbarian 1982.

    If you are asking about D-pads/ game pads for fighting games? Oh boy...

    Everyone got their own ideas what makes a good pad for fighters.
    There nothing I can suggest that be a easy and relatively cheap solution.
    I personally think the Sega Saturn D-pad reached the right of perfection for fighters.
    Getting one to work with a PS4, well that is a horse of a different color.



    “Strong people don't put others down... They lift them up.”
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  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,304
    Whats the best

    Best thread title ever...
  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    Darksakul wrote: »
    why whatever do you mean sir
    Your first post is hard to decipher.
    What is Best (In life)
    Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. -Conan, Conan the Barbarian 1982.

    If you are asking about D-pads/ game pads for fighting games? Oh boy...

    Everyone got their own ideas what makes a good pad for fighters.
    There nothing I can suggest that be a easy and relatively cheap solution.
    I personally think the Sega Saturn D-pad reached the right of perfection for fighters.
    Getting one to work with a PS4, well that is a horse of a different color.



    well im great with tekken on pad. i feel its made for pad, but sf games pad just is so hard. im at like 60%. i feel i have better movement, but reactions on pad sucks t me. hitting anti airs in time doing hcfs, 360s, pianoing isnt gonna happen lol. but if i have t use pad for certain games im curious what pad players prefer on dual shock.

    i love ds design, and snes. i feel those are the best pads for fighting games .
  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    jopamo wrote: »
    Whats the best

    Best thread title ever...

    well duh of course.. only the best comes out of me
  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    i also dont get all the saturn love i know guys like the button placement but the d pad? wtf? it has the diagonals you cant jist smoothly roll qcfs ect due to it having the db,df ects along with u,d,r,l buttons i think that is crap idk how anyone could play on pads with diagonals
  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,304
    edited August 4
    Sorry but you lost all credibility when you took a dump on the Saturn pad.
    1tjphd.jpg
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,260
    i also dont get all the saturn love i know guys like the button placement but the d pad? wtf? it has the diagonals you cant jist smoothly roll qcfs ect due to it having the db,df ects along with u,d,r,l buttons i think that is crap idk how anyone could play on pads with diagonals

    The Saturn has one of the best D-pad designs ever.
    It was go good that they made Saturn pads for the PS2 and PC.

    The downside is the market is flooded with cheap knock off Saturn USB Pads.
    “Strong people don't put others down... They lift them up.”
    - Darth Vader, Philanthropist
  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    jopamo wrote: »
    Sorry but you lost all credibility when you took a dump on the Saturn pad.
    1tjphd.jpg

    lol like i care for YOUR credibility XD

    and nobody can say why saturns d pad was so good when it has diagnals everyone knows games like tekken or sf needs just the 4 and not 8 buttons for directions thats why u never see top sf pad players use saturn pads mostly its ps dualshock pads
  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    Darksakul wrote: »
    i also dont get all the saturn love i know guys like the button placement but the d pad? wtf? it has the diagonals you cant jist smoothly roll qcfs ect due to it having the db,df ects along with u,d,r,l buttons i think that is crap idk how anyone could play on pads with diagonals

    The Saturn has one of the best D-pad designs ever.
    It was go good that they made Saturn pads for the PS2 and PC.

    The downside is the market is flooded with cheap knock off Saturn USB Pads.

    i dont remember seeing saturn pad for ps2 other than when the sf ac pads came out it was basically the saturn design i just dont see how a pad with diagonals is good for fighters seems way to easy to fuck up qcfs not even counting 360s ect
  • LLeg3ndLLeg3nd Always Eating Joined: Posts: 279
    You should ask DSP.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,260
    Darksakul wrote: »
    i also dont get all the saturn love i know guys like the button placement but the d pad? wtf? it has the diagonals you cant jist smoothly roll qcfs ect due to it having the db,df ects along with u,d,r,l buttons i think that is crap idk how anyone could play on pads with diagonals

    The Saturn has one of the best D-pad designs ever.
    It was go good that they made Saturn pads for the PS2 and PC.

    The downside is the market is flooded with cheap knock off Saturn USB Pads.

    i dont remember seeing saturn pad for ps2 other than when the sf ac pads came out it was basically the saturn design i just dont see how a pad with diagonals is good for fighters seems way to easy to fuck up qcfs not even counting 360s ect
    Yeah they exist, they are also $90 to $100 as they are collector items

    643102-ssps2pad_001.jpg

    131316.jpg

    Retro-Saturn-PS2-darkstalkers.jpg
    The Purple one is the Dark Stalkers edition of the PS2 Saturn pad
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  • AlphaCharlieAlphaCharlie Joined: Posts: 1,095
    edited August 4
    dual shock pad designed for fighters? i hated ps3 d pad, ps4s d pad is thin and seems easy on the thumb. the original ps1 pad not the ds, had heavy buttons and it felt weird. i bought one cause alot here said it was good, but i didn't like it sadly. i mostly used the ds 2 to me i find the ds 2, and ps4 being the best suited for fighters. what do you guys say?


    Wait a sec.... you want to know which Playstation gamepad is good for fighters? I'd say the Dual-shock 2 for PS2. It's also one of the best and well-rounded gamepad designs of all-time imo.

    I don't know why they made revisions to the design with the PS3 and PS4. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,260
    Everyone got their own ideas what works and don't work.
    Your own mileage may vary.

    Now if you are up to some DIY work, finding a part you like, gutting it and getting to work with another compatible controller board is a thing.

    I seen people take a controller, desolder or cut out the encoder chip inside, wire the pad to a big 15 or 20 pin connector which connects to a project box housing the brains of a controller compatible to a system you want to use the controller on. And tech talk has a number of those projects done somethere here int he forums.

    Recently someone gutted the Pokken Pad, took out the Encoder chip repurpose a 20 pin connector to hoot it to a project box with a Dual moded Brooks UFB and MC Cthulhu inside
    “Strong people don't put others down... They lift them up.”
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  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    dual shock pad designed for fighters? i hated ps3 d pad, ps4s d pad is thin and seems easy on the thumb. the original ps1 pad not the ds, had heavy buttons and it felt weird. i bought one cause alot here said it was good, but i didn't like it sadly. i mostly used the ds 2 to me i find the ds 2, and ps4 being the best suited for fighters. what do you guys say?


    Wait a sec.... you want to know which Playstation gamepad is good for fighters? I'd say the Dual-shock 2 for PS2. It's also one of the best and well-rounded gamepad designs of all-time imo.

    I don't know why they made revisions to the design with the PS3 and PS4. If it's not broken, don't fix it.

    this.. same with fighting games they make a almost perfect game then next installment they change everything and the fans hate it
  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    Darksakul wrote: »
    Darksakul wrote: »
    i also dont get all the saturn love i know guys like the button placement but the d pad? wtf? it has the diagonals you cant jist smoothly roll qcfs ect due to it having the db,df ects along with u,d,r,l buttons i think that is crap idk how anyone could play on pads with diagonals

    The Saturn has one of the best D-pad designs ever.
    It was go good that they made Saturn pads for the PS2 and PC.

    The downside is the market is flooded with cheap knock off Saturn USB Pads.

    i dont remember seeing saturn pad for ps2 other than when the sf ac pads came out it was basically the saturn design i just dont see how a pad with diagonals is good for fighters seems way to easy to fuck up qcfs not even counting 360s ect
    Yeah they exist, they are also $90 to $100 as they are collector items

    643102-ssps2pad_001.jpg

    131316.jpg

    Retro-Saturn-PS2-darkstalkers.jpg
    The Purple one is the Dark Stalkers edition of the PS2 Saturn pad

    thats crazy.. tbh most id pay for a pad is 50 100 for a controller? how come nobody can just make a decent saturnpad lol its basic buttons and a d pad it shouldnt be that hard to design an older style pad it snot like its a technical ps4 or xbox pad
  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    Darksakul wrote: »
    Everyone got their own ideas what works and don't work.
    Your own mileage may vary.

    Now if you are up to some DIY work, finding a part you like, gutting it and getting to work with another compatible controller board is a thing.

    I seen people take a controller, desolder or cut out the encoder chip inside, wire the pad to a big 15 or 20 pin connector which connects to a project box housing the brains of a controller compatible to a system you want to use the controller on. And tech talk has a number of those projects done somethere here int he forums.

    Recently someone gutted the Pokken Pad, took out the Encoder chip repurpose a 20 pin connector to hoot it to a project box with a Dual moded Brooks UFB and MC Cthulhu inside

    id love to know how to do that stuff but id be too afraid id screw it up id need to watch some vids ect to figure out what im doing is there any decent knock off saturn pads? is it true that the sf 15th ps2 pads are basically the same d pad?

    i just wana see what all the hype is about over this saturn pad by its looks the d pad doesnt loom good at all having its diagonals making it seem like doing qcfs will be hard ect
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,260
    sf 15th ps2 pads are basically the same d pad?
    streetfighter-controller.jpg
    This thing? It is not the same d-pad. Overall its a Good D-pad, very similar in style and design but if you have the two side by side, you notice the differences.
    id love to know how to do that stuff but id be too afraid id screw it up
    Most if what you find here are work logs and still photos, producing half-way decent videos is a bit more challenging.
    That said, find anything thats similar, study and take notes. You notice alot of controllers are build on the same basic designs.

    You have controllers without any encoders like old Atari 2600 joysticks, Sega Master system pads and the Neo Geo AES/ CD controllers.

    And then you have Controllers with an Encoder, and that is pretty much everything else. You got simple encoders like the NES has which is just a parallel to Serial Shift register to straight up USB devices.
    All the pads worth wild to hack are what we call common ground, meaning they share all the same ground/return voltage lines.

    Good place to start reading is Slagcoin.com, it holds alot of basics to pad hacking, and you can work your way from there.
    95% of everything is basic electrical, and you only have to get into circuit design for a few odd-ball/ troublesome boards.
    Examples would be such as Trigger inversions, having to add diodes to signal lines, ect.
    “Strong people don't put others down... They lift them up.”
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  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    a guy on fightcade told me basically what he did was get 2 saturn pads, a origional v2 and a cheap usb knock off for 10 bucks and just opened and switched the pcbs and that was it
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,260
    a guy on fightcade told me basically what he did was get 2 saturn pads, a origional v2 and a cheap usb knock off for 10 bucks and just opened and switched the pcbs and that was it

    Works for your PS3, not always for you PS4.
    “Strong people don't put others down... They lift them up.”
    - Darth Vader, Philanthropist
  • dspnumber1fandspnumber1fan Joined: Posts: 70
    im concerned about pc not ps4 i only got a ps4 to play tekken 7 with my friends and i only use a sony pad for tekken but dont like as much for sf
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 37,129 mod
    And here I was thinking you were asking about what was best in life in general.
    a guy on fightcade told me basically what he did was get 2 saturn pads, a origional v2 and a cheap usb knock off for 10 bucks and just opened and switched the pcbs and that was it
    Still might have issues with the PCB in the long run. Not sure about the quality of the bootleg PCBs.
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