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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,279 mod
    edited November 9
    Hsd glitch won't happen too much do to counter switching.

    True to some extent, but a lot of the stronger set play teams include characters like Nova and Dorm who can easily hbd both characters after a switch or just put so much shit on the screen that it's nearly as bad as holding the combo

    Counter switching is the main reason it's not too OP, but might as well get more damage and that's with people optimizing their anti counter switch options

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  • flighflighflugitflighflighflugit Joined: Posts: 1,556
    Yea having the option is really strong but actually "seeing" it in a match might be a rarer occurrence.
  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,787
    For now.
  • charlie88charlie88 Ya'll niggas gay. The Keving Gates kinda gay. Joined: Posts: 5,063
    I mentioned the stone build off that in another post. The only ones I see this being effective with is maybe reality space and time. Problem is reality you have to wait until the first goes away so it isn't as spammy as say the others I mentioned. Soul doesn't build unless it hits along with power and mind. So they can't abuse it.
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,279 mod
    edited November 9
    I know mind surge definitely builds gauge on whiff. Thought soul did also but not sure


    With mind it's easier with a flight character as you can activate flight and spam the air surge which recovers faster

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  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,787
    Mind stone better build on whiff, using it is so useless that it's probably the least used surge in neutral.
  • Xr0s-upXr0s-up Go banana! Joined: Posts: 1,142
    edited November 9
    It does
    All of them should. I dunno if you guys actually play the game
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  • KJunkKJunk Joined: Posts: 2,964
    1 surge, hit or whiff, is 1% storm gauge
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,279 mod
    Mind stone better build on whiff, using it is so useless that it's probably the least used surge in neutral.

    Well it'd not a neutral use surge so it pretty much is the least used in neutral by default

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  • VersatileBJN007VersatileBJN007 Joined: Posts: 1,188
    What are the 4 or 5 best partners for Nova and why?
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  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,787
    Mind stone better build on whiff, using it is so useless that it's probably the least used surge in neutral.

    Well it'd not a neutral use surge so it pretty much is the least used in neutral by default

    I've seen people use it to air stall. You can use anything in neutral.
  • KJunkKJunk Joined: Posts: 2,964
    edited November 10
    What are the 4 or 5 best partners for Nova and why?
    My votes would be (in no order) Ultron/Dante/Dorm for his best buds. Honorable mentions go to Gamora and Jedah.

    But Nova is so good that it's not like you need to build around him. He's fine doing his thing on his own.
  • Plaid_UnicornPlaid_Unicorn Camron should have won an Oscar for Paid in Full Joined: Posts: 10,289
    What are the 4 or 5 best partners for Nova and why?

    I'm bias but hagger is the best bro.

    Haggars air whirl is great for tag buddies that can lift up off the ground for air loops, and lariat is the best reversal in the game, after to hits combo into hyperslam tag and continue with air loops. 6k+ damage off of a 2 button mash.

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  • charlie88charlie88 Ya'll niggas gay. The Keving Gates kinda gay. Joined: Posts: 5,063
    Yeah sorry about that they do build on whiff. Although that shit barely moves so I can't really see it. It isn't like marvel when you could see the chunks of hyper gauge build up from spamming shit
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  • ES_CurseES_Curse ALL HAIL THE HOLY PHARAOH Joined: Posts: 8,150
    Theory crafting the best character for a Zero/???/Soul team. I probably won't be good with it anytime soon because Zero is fucking weird on my pad, but I feel Soul is probably one of the best stones for Zero on a few reasons:
    - Gives Zero a quasi-beam. Because if he needed anything, it's a fucking life steal beam.
    - Did you successfully kill my Zero? SOUL STORM
    - Sougenmu is one of the standard "double install" options for Soul Storm
    - If Zero is the one activating Soul Storm, you have an non-cinematic level 3 to throw out.
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  • KorbidonKorbidon Who can stand against such abominations? Joined: Posts: 4,599
    Theory crafting the best character for a Zero/???/Soul team. I probably won't be good with it anytime soon because Zero is fucking weird on my pad, but I feel Soul is probably one of the best stones for Zero on a few reasons:
    - Gives Zero a quasi-beam. Because if he needed anything, it's a fucking life steal beam.
    - Did you successfully kill my Zero? SOUL STORM
    - Sougenmu is one of the standard "double install" options for Soul Storm
    - If Zero is the one activating Soul Storm, you have an non-cinematic level 3 to throw out.
    I think gammorah is optimal for this stupidity. She has her own install and is excellent with soul.
  • AlMoStLeGeNdArYAlMoStLeGeNdArY Optimize or Die Joined: Posts: 2,344
    Theory crafting the best character for a Zero/???/Soul team. I probably won't be good with it anytime soon because Zero is fucking weird on my pad, but I feel Soul is probably one of the best stones for Zero on a few reasons:
    - Gives Zero a quasi-beam. Because if he needed anything, it's a fucking life steal beam.
    - Did you successfully kill my Zero? SOUL STORM
    - Sougenmu is one of the standard "double install" options for Soul Storm
    - If Zero is the one activating Soul Storm, you have an non-cinematic level 3 to throw out.

    Dante...
  • charlie88charlie88 Ya'll niggas gay. The Keving Gates kinda gay. Joined: Posts: 5,063
    Dante is good because he can jam session lock down into unblockable or hard 2 blockable. I think his moves synergize with Dantes to (something that isn't discussed enough in soul storm).

    Speaking of stones....why don't we have threads dedicated specifically to the stones?
    I think they are important enough in the game that each stone should have its on thread for discussion.
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  • NaokiB4UNaokiB4U Joined: Posts: 1,291
    Who should I team X character with discussion check list.

    Did you mention Dante? If yes, mention him again. If no, mention Dante.

    If they don't like Dante, mention Zero. If they argue Zero doesn't assist their character,
    tell them to switch that character then also pick Dante.

    Dante can be switched out with Ultron, Dorm and Gammora if they resist, but you never should
    switch out Zero. If you must, say Nova.

    If they don't want to play Nova, tell them to wait for DBZ.


    DBZ standing for Dante Besties with Zero right?
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    The Megaman X being a modern Cable is interesting.

    I think he is super good and right now I'm having a character crisis between him and Arthur.

    I love me some Arthur but Megaman X is good and fun as well and kinda have the same gameplan somewhat.
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  • UnSaxon51UnSaxon51 HA-LU-KEN Joined: Posts: 4,222
    edited November 10


    I do actually think that Firebrand is better than Gamora overall.
    If she didn't have the weird projectile-ignoring properties on her guns, Gamora might not even be top 10.

    With that said, I'm hard pressed at this point to say FB and Gamora beat out Nova and Ultron. Raccoon and Jedah might be better too.
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  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,787
    UnSaxon51 wrote: »


    I do actually think that Firebrand is better than Gamora overall.
    If she didn't have the weird projectile-ignoring properties on her guns, Gamora might not even be top 10.

    With that said, I'm hard pressed at this point to say FB and Gamora beat out Nova and Ultron. Raccoon and Jedah might be better too.

    Top 5 Brand? Nah. Not seeing it. He WANTS this to be the case lol
  • Plaid_UnicornPlaid_Unicorn Camron should have won an Oscar for Paid in Full Joined: Posts: 10,289
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  • flighflighflugitflighflighflugit Joined: Posts: 1,556
    Hard to make a tier list in a team game but I would prob put Jedah and ultron in place of brand and gamora
  • White AngelWhite Angel Shadow Blade! Joined: Posts: 98
    edited November 11
  • Plaid_UnicornPlaid_Unicorn Camron should have won an Oscar for Paid in Full Joined: Posts: 10,289

    I see haggar... no thanos but this is the most legit list I have seen of all time
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  • UnSaxon51UnSaxon51 HA-LU-KEN Joined: Posts: 4,222
    Cap, Rider, and Chun are a bit surprising.
    Not because I think they're bad, just I didn't think anyone would place them that high.
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  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,787
    edited November 12
    I'm kind of surprised people feel so little about monster hunter, dare I say despite my earlier misgivings Nemesis even while I don't think he's top 10 is putting in work too.
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,279 mod
    Anything past top 5 at this point I think you might as well be throwing darts at a board. Especially in a team based game. I'll probably have my own list after PSX or do something more like a chart that accounts for support tiers and where I think the stones are at.

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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,981 mod
    MonHun moving up depends on people finding more teams with her aside from Justin's Dante/MonHun.
  • ES_CurseES_Curse ALL HAIL THE HOLY PHARAOH Joined: Posts: 8,150
    Surprised that Strange is left out of all these lists. While I think Dormammu probably does a lot of what he wants to do better, Strange is more than formidable in the right hands.
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  • flighflighflugitflighflighflugit Joined: Posts: 1,556
    Problem with mh is that she has some pretty bad matchups and she is pretty terrible solo. So there are better support characters out there but she definitely has some nice synergy with certain characters
  • OuroborusOuroborus plays 3s just to troll Joined: Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    the captain marvel hype train is dead
    ssf4ae tier list regarding Gen:

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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,279 mod
    edited November 12
    So dead that characters with nearly no solo mix up outside of grab level 3's or hoping you chicken block during gaps in block stun are better than her by Yipes' list.

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  • Plaid_UnicornPlaid_Unicorn Camron should have won an Oscar for Paid in Full Joined: Posts: 10,289
    So dead that characters with nearly no solo mix up outside of grab level 3's or hoping you chicken block during gaps in block stun are better than her by Yipes' list.

    Stop hating on the mayor fam. Fight me
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