Menat General Thread - Don't Drop The Orb

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edited August 27 in Menat
Discuss the newest egyptian queen here.



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  • CathraoCathrao Police brutality Joined: Posts: 645
    Tuesday can't come soon enough~
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  • mykkamykka Joined: Posts: 2,386
    Cathrao wrote: »
    Tuesday can't come soon enough~

    I agree. I'm actually totally shocked she's out this month, they usually reveal the trailer at least a week before release, and change the logo on twitter/facebook a lot earlier
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,891
    edited August 27
    All the informations about her moveset we can gather through her trailer:
    - Menat can throw her crystal ball out and recall it. She can throw it mid or low and likely at different distances. Tossing the ball doesn't hit the opponent, but recalling it does. EX ball toss however hits on the way out and it's either a hit throw (kinda like Raida) or a straight throw. There actually seems to be 3 versions of EX ball toss, one low, one mid and one airborne, with mid and airborne scoring knockdowns.
    - When the ball is not tossed out, Menat gains a very extended range on some of her normals like st. HK or st./cr. HP
    - She has a slide - pretty slow, with long range and long recovery
    - She has a divekick very similar to Yoga drill that can be done pretty quickly after jumping
    - She has a special cancellable overhead (!!!), or at least you can cancel it into Reflect.
    - She has an anti-air grab like Soul Throw (name's also "soul [something]") with a regular and an EX version
    - She has two versions of Reflect (likely her V-Skill), a standing one and a crouching one. They both knock down, but the crouching version launches and seems a good AA. It reflects projectiles back of course.
    - Her V-Reversal is a teleport
    - Her V-Trigger summons 6 orbs around her that can be thrown out to extend combos. You can throw out one at a time or throw them all together kinda like Ibuki's kunais. The degree of control over the orbs seem uncertain - they might go out by themselves if you wait long enough (except for when you throw them all out) or you might trigger them yourself.
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    We will step on those poor thots
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  • nappydudenappydude Joined: Posts: 561
    Damn.. please let her slide properties be like her master's slide..
    Her wake up game seems worse that Vega lol.
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,891
    edited August 27
    nappydude wrote: »
    Damn.. please let her slide properties be like her master's slide..
    Her wake up game seems worse that Vega lol.

    Yeah, unless I'm missing something on EX ball toss she doesn't seem to have any kind of invincible reversal.
    Also since her Soul Throw involves her holding her crystal ball, maybe she won't be able to do it if the ball is out?
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  • mykkamykka Joined: Posts: 2,386
    I think she'll be a lot like Sim actually.
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  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 10,865
    Seems like she also does the Super startup pose during her st.MK

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    and that st.HK looks hot

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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 5,091
    I think her defense will be slightly better than vega's because her vreversal teleports her unlike the others in the game.
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  • mykkamykka Joined: Posts: 2,386
    If she's slow, low damage and low health, they better buff her in other areas
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,891
    Given her setplay and pressure, I think she might be 950 health/stun with relatively low damage or 900 with moderate damage (less likely because she has no reversal). They might still give her 1000 because of the lack of invincible reversal though.
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    From what I've seen on other forums, she's been incredibly received. Might become a mainstay
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,891
    edited August 27
    What did you expect? She's a cute waifu unlike Abigail so r/Kappa can still fap on it.
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    What did you expect? She's a cute waifu unlike Abigail so r/Kappa can still fap on it.

    Kappa hates anything related to SFV so I actually dont know if they like her (nor care).

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    Random observations from Menat video:

    S.HK:
    -Visually similar to Ryu's s.HK, shown as a usable AA, probably misses crouchers.
    -CC's into a dash-up combo
    -Can link into what looks like c.MP

    s.HP(?):
    -She pushes out her orb about 1/3 screen away. Great reach, while the orb goes low I kind of doubt it's an actual low which would make it incredible, rather I think it's just to make Menat easier to be jump-in punished for doing it because everyone has been scarred by Chun's s.HP.

    c.HP:
    -similiar to shoto c.HP, shown as a AA.

    Reflect:
    -Like Rose it can put the opponent into a juggle state. Video shows that you can AA with it for flashy combos but I am a bit wary of reflect being a legitimate AA. Hopefully she can use reflect on grounded opponents to combo people into air grab in the corner like Rose.
    -It looks like she has at least 2 reflects, one that shoots fireballs back horzontally and another from a crouch position that makes it look like she reflects them diagonally up like Rose (the crouching reflect can be seen as part of a combo in about 00:27 into the vid).
    - I am going to say that I think her reflect is her v-skills and you can change the angle of relection by either doing standing or crouching V-skill.

    Evasive v-reversal. Visually she teleports to the other side.

    j.HP looks visually similar to Rashid's j.HP.

    s.MK: pokey style s.MK. Similiar looking to Ryu but presumably more range.

    Orb placement:
    - She can place an orb onto the screen (animeee) and later withdraw it back. Orb will hit opponent both ways. Used several times in the video to extend combos.
    - Presumably she will have different normals while the orb is out. She won't have her far reaching s.HP as an example.
    - The video shows she has at least 2 orb configurations: She can either place the screen about half-screen waist-high to the opponent, or she can send the orb to travel horizonally far and asceding upwards at a shallow angle.
    - EX Orb: It has 2 variations: The waist high one will act as a recapture for combos (think MK's Scorpion), the far and high one will slam opponents into the ground.

    VT:
    -Menat is surrounded by 6 static orbs. Not sure if they act like a shield like Rose's satellites.
    - She can choose to fire one orb at a time horizontally or all her remaining ones at once.
    -Can be used for combo extensions and opening new combo paths such as from her low-hitting command slide.

    CA: Her CA is only shown in a combo so it's hard to see if it has any range, but you can at least she that she uses both hands to slam her crystal ball down onto the opponent.

    Sample combos:
    j.HP x s.HK x c.MP x Reflect

    s.HK x c.MP x withdraw orb x AA reflect (it looks like the opponent is placed into a juggle state after the reflect as well)

    Command normal(?) x withdraw orb x c.MP x EX orb (recapture) x c.MP x reflect

    AA c.HP to reset the opponent x place orb (mid) x withdraw orb (opponent blocks but is pulled into Menat), opponent tries to tech throw the incoming mixup but Menat goes for neutral jump into Sim drill instead, which combos into c.LK x s.LP x EX orb (ground slam)

    CC s.HK x forwards dash x s.LP x Reflect x EX air grab

    VT Orbs are out: command slide under fireball x VT orb hit x place orb (mid) x s.MK x withdraw orb x c.LK x VT orb hit x place orb (mid) x shoots out her remaining VT orbs to juggle opponent x EX Orb (ground slam)

    j.HP x s.HK x c.MP x VT cancel x command slide x place orb (mid) x VT orb hit x s.MK x withdraw orb x VT orb hit x instant Sim drill x VT orb hit x c.MP x Reflect (upwards) x VT orb hit x place orb (high) x VT orb hit x withdraw orb x CA

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  • CipherCipher Catchphraser Joined: Posts: 1,865
    This was the character I was waiting for, maybe we need an artwork thread.
    Since I do 3 things while waiting for ques (artwork hunting, talk shit on forums, stare holes into my wall), I would do it.
    I mean I have a 5k picture folder for Cammy, that excludes anything M rated.
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    Still no blogpost from Capcom
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    PVL_93_RU wrote: »
    Still no blogpost from Capcom

    She must be hard to explain haha
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,891
    edited August 27
    PVL_93_RU wrote: »
    Still no blogpost from Capcom

    It's Sunday, they likely just sent them the trailer before the weekend for the reveal.
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    yeah she could def sit on my face
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    99% of people will drop her in a few days. She looks much more complex than most characters.

    And on top of that she looks slow and will probably have no reversal.

    I give @TWINBLADES 30 minutes before he drops her
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    Characters can be popular and not get used a lot. Chun is a good example
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    So capcom just copied Viola's moveset and called a day?

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    99% of people will drop her in a few days. She looks much more complex than most characters.

    And on top of that she looks slow and will probably have no reversal.

    Well yeah duh, you've gotta try someone to know if you like them
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    NickRocks wrote: »
    yeah she could def sit on my face

    with what? girl's got seemingly no booty
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    PVL_93_RU wrote: »
    NickRocks wrote: »
    yeah she could def sit on my face

    with what? girl's got seemingly no booty

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    99% of people will drop her in a few days. She looks much more complex than most characters.

    And on top of that she looks slow and will probably have no reversal.

    She will probably have the Ibuki effect: a very technical character so a lot of people will write her off as trash and drop her after a week, until a talented technical player like Xian picks her up and shows everyone all her sick setups that they can all copy and then shoot up straight to Plat, knowing nothing else outside of her VT setups. :bee:
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    MikuruX wrote: »

    Well seems like I open the Thread then.
    Letse go!
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    99% of people will drop her in a few days. She looks much more complex than most characters.

    And on top of that she looks slow and will probably have no reversal.

    She will probably have the Ibuki effect: a very technical character so a lot of people will write her off as trash and drop her after a week, until a talented technical player like Xian picks her up and shows everyone all her sick setups that they can all copy and then shoot up straight to Plat, knowing nothing else outside of her VT setups. :bee:

    Depends on the character. Poongko put Kolin on the map but she still aint that good of a character (or popular).
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    Not to disparage Poongko, but I don't think his Kolin is on the same level as what Xian did for Ibuki.
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    Do we know whether her moves are motions or charge?
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    For the way she's built she's unlikely to be a charge character.
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    edited August 27
    Cipher wrote: »
    This was the character I was waiting for, maybe we need an artwork thread.
    Since I do 3 things while waiting for ques (artwork hunting, talk shit on forums, stare holes into my wall), I would do it.
    I mean I have a 5k picture folder for Cammy, that excludes anything M rated.

    You sounds like a true scholar good sir.
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    Do we know whether her moves are motions or charge?

    motions are emotion based. You must truly believe in your move or it won't come out.
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