Titaning Your Way In - Thanos General Thread

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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,908
    edited September 21
    So I have a couple specific questions (I'm pretty new to Marvel so I apologize in advance if they will look dumb):
    1. Ending a combo with Emperor's Stance leads to a crumple that allows you to launch. What's the point if using ES instead of just launching directly though? Does the move have other special properties like invul? Or is it just to set up tag combos? What's the difference between the light and heavy version?
    2. What are some good BNBs midscreen (since in the corner you will of course do palm loop shenanigans)?
    3. What are the follow-ups to his command grab both midscreen and corner?
    4. What special properties does f+LP have that makes it useful in combos? Fast startup and big hitbox?

    Other general questions:
    What are your favorite stones for him? What other characters do you use with him that can help him?
    I feel his biggest weakness is the lack of true full screen projectile - if he gets trapped by Space storm he's basically useless - so any character who has one seems to help him.
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  • Plaid_UnicornPlaid_Unicorn Camron should have won an Oscar for Paid in Full Joined: Posts: 10,313
    So I have a couple specific questions (I'm pretty new to Marvel so I apologize in advance if they will look dumb):
    1. Ending a combo with Emperor's Stance leads to a crumple that allows you to launch. What's the point if using ES instead of just launching directly though? Does the move have other special properties like invul? Or is it just to set up tag combos? What's the difference between the light and heavy version?
    2. What are some good BNBs midscreen (since in the corner you will of course do palm loop shenanigans)?
    3. What are the follow-ups to his command grab both midscreen and corner?
    4. What special properties does f+LP have that makes it useful in combos? Fast startup and big hitbox?

    Other general questions:
    What are your favorite stones for him? What other characters do you use with him that can help him?
    I feel his biggest weakness is the lack of true full screen projectile - if he gets trapped by Space storm he's basically useless - so any character who has one seems to help him.

    just started playing him today, so I can't answer all of you questions but...

    1 emperor stance is a good tag tool, the heavy version can be used on falling opponents while still airborne to combo into his beam hyper amongst other things. Still gotta play with it some more

    As far as stones are concerned space is pretty good as the space storm can allow for palm loops anywhere.
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,908
    The last videos by Evil Canadian basically answered to all my questions. The heavy version of Emperor's Stance is good to catch someone flying at you as it has a massive hitbox.
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,908
    Titan's Shield gimmicks:
    If you throw out light shield from mid to far range and do teleport right after you get a free high/low mixup midscreen. In the corner you also get an actual left/right mixup (light version will crossup, heavy version will stay same side). You can add another layer by tagging right after Titan's Deceit.
    The only weakness is that Titan's Shield unlike most projectiles will dissipate if Thanos gets hit, so if they see your teleport and the shield isn't on them they might just punish you.
    There's probably more dirty tech you can find around Titan's Shield. It's a crazy tool for a rushdown mixup character like him.
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  • VersatileBJN007VersatileBJN007 Joined: Posts: 1,188
    Who does he synergize well with ?
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,908
    edited September 24
    Any character with projectiles that can lock down people easily and give him space to get in: Strange, Hawkeye, Jedah, Ultron etc.
    But really, Titan's Shield is so good as a tool to get in you can even use Thanos himself to allow big bodies to get in.
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  • VersatileBJN007VersatileBJN007 Joined: Posts: 1,188
    Any character with projectiles that can lock down people easily and give him space to get in: Strange, Hawkeye, Jedah, Ultron etc.
    But really, Titan's Shield is so good as a tool to get in you can even use Thanos himself to allow big bodies to get in.

    What about between these chars: Nova, Dorm, Marvel?
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  • p1nkt1t5p1nkt1t5 Joined: Posts: 646
    edited September 24
    You can perform an Insurrections End with light punch~switch, then wavedash across screen with second character and pick up the opponent with low heavy into launcher. Not sure what kind of scaling you get off of it though.
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,908
    Any character with projectiles that can lock down people easily and give him space to get in: Strange, Hawkeye, Jedah, Ultron etc.
    But really, Titan's Shield is so good as a tool to get in you can even use Thanos himself to allow big bodies to get in.

    What about between these chars: Nova, Dorm, Marvel?

    They all seem good choices. In the end you just play the one you like the most.
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  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,788
    Any character with projectiles that can lock down people easily and give him space to get in: Strange, Hawkeye, Jedah, Ultron etc.
    But really, Titan's Shield is so good as a tool to get in you can even use Thanos himself to allow big bodies to get in.

    What about between these chars: Nova, Dorm, Marvel?

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  • GenjiknightGenjiknight Joined: Posts: 27
    How good is Dante/Thanos, having some issues with hitstun deterioration and wanna know if it's still worth investing in?
  • CharadaCharada Joined: Posts: 3
    I'm trying Rocket Raccoon and Thanos.....
    tips?
  • Mood4food77Mood4food77 Joined: Posts: 9,788
    How good is Dante/Thanos, having some issues with hitstun deterioration and wanna know if it's still worth investing in?

    I dont see why this would be bad. I wouldnt focus too much on ending dante combos in a palm loop although ending them with a simple launch, hp palm dash palm hyper is ideal. Dante combos are long and damaging so he doesnt need much help there. Look for ways that dante can set up a palm loop but he cant maximize damage from (like maybe a volcano AA).

    Thanos needs help with midscreen combos a bit so dante definitely has that
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    @Genjiknight ceotaku this weekend had marvelo playing thanos/dante if you want to look up his matches.

  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,908
    edited September 28
    What's the highest damage you got off a 1 bar combo midscreen?
    I got 6560 with the following one:
    cr.LK HP HK Emperor's Stance > cr.LK HP HK cr.HP > LK HP f+HP (wait) dash HK > dash LK HP cr.HP > LK HP HK super
    Just let every two hit normal rock except the final HK.

    The good thing about cr.LK HP HK is that if they block you can kara cancel HK into command grab.
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  • toloretolore Joined: Posts: 1,700
    do all the post Emperor's stance LK's actually add damage? I don't have good intuition for damage scaling in this game yet, but i think you shouldn't NEED them to connect the combos, and they might scale damage more than they add.
  • AlkipotAlkipot Speeches are for campaigning... now is the time for action! Joined: Posts: 1,964
    I'm using Thanos/X. Seems to work pretty well with connecting hypers either way, decent damage too. X has projectiles for damn near all angles, good near unblockable setups as well.

    Been using time stone but I think space, power and obviously reality can work.
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,908
    edited September 29
    tolore wrote: »
    do all the post Emperor's stance LK's actually add damage? I don't have good intuition for damage scaling in this game yet, but i think you shouldn't NEED them to connect the combos, and they might scale damage more than they add.

    You don't need them to connect the combos, but I think I tried without letting them rock and it did less damage. They also make the combos easier to confirm.
    I watched a couple Thanos players in tournaments and they all make LK hit twice when they can.
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  • MastaSWMastaSW Joined: Posts: 191
    Who does he synergize well with ?

    I just wanna synergize with your avatar. LoL. Who the hell is that?!
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  • MastaSWMastaSW Joined: Posts: 191
    What's the highest damage you got off a 1 bar combo midscreen?
    I got 6560 with the following one:
    cr.LK HP HK Emperor's Stance > cr.LK HP HK cr.HP > LK HP f+HP (wait) dash HK > dash LK HP cr.HP > LK HP HK super
    Just let every two hit normal rock except the final HK.

    The good thing about cr.LK HP HK is that if they block you can kara cancel HK into command grab.

    NICE. Gonna have to try this. LOVE playing with Thanos but hadn't found a solid BnB. Hoping he synergizes with Dante, Gamora or Nova since they've been my faves to use so far
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  • toloretolore Joined: Posts: 1,700
    What stones have people been using? I've been using power but i actually mostly don'to even remember to use it, and the storm actually tends to make me fail combos because i'm not used to it.
  • VersatileBJN007VersatileBJN007 Joined: Posts: 1,188
    Question guys, what do you guys do to stay safe on magic series that is blocked? I tend to end it on st HK and get bodied lol.
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    Throw a fireball
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    I use Time Stone. His fireball is perfect for mix ups.
  • VersatileBJN007VersatileBJN007 Joined: Posts: 1,188
    Korbidon wrote: »
    Throw a fireball

    The delay of the start up is a lot tho isnt it ?
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    Guys any tips for dealing with Gamora? I suck at the game but it seems kinda tough.
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  • ThumperThumper Joined: Posts: 69
    Started with Gamora but I'm starting to like Thanos as well. Synergy-wise, I think they set each other up pretty well. Gamora's guns blow through everything and Thanos has his shield. Granted I'm still a noob but I'm enjoying how they both play.

    Still looking for good BNB's though lol haven't been in the lab much yet.
  • KorbidonKorbidon Who can stand against such abominations? Joined: Posts: 4,604
    Fun stupid stuff.

    Knock them fullscreen and use your super for lockdown. They will instinctively duck it to avoid block stun.

    Tag, use a command grab.
  • GuiverGuiver CEO, Guiver Games Joined: Posts: 36
    edited October 14
    Question guys, what do you guys do to stay safe on magic series that is blocked? I tend to end it on st.HK and get bodied lol.

    Good Question. Light Titan's Charge feels safe with the right spacing, but the move is by no means frame positive. If you use it too early in your string, 4f RR or Spiderman st.lp can fully punish, and tbh, most other 5 and 6f lights will probably punish it as well.

    You still have options, to say the least. My first suggestion would be to maybe input Light Titans Deceit afterwards, if you want to continue your pressure. Heavy Titan's Deceit if you wish to pull out and chicken block, or just go for a j.LK/j.HK which will be blocked by a competent opponent. If you manage to get close enough to someone after landing, you can also go for an Insurrections End. Light Titan's Shield > Light Titans Deceit > Insurrections End could be decent, after some level one yomi has been established. I'd like to start seeing this mix up used for incoming situations more frequently, I think it adds to his already frightening offensive options while up close.

    You could go into different variations of the magic series to avoid predictability, and then after the first or second hit of st.HK, input Heavy Titan's Charge and tag. Gives a decent high/low situation.

    Keep in mind that Thanos has a 5f st.LP. and all of his normals (to my knowledge) can be dash cancelled aside from cr.HK, so sometimes you may even want to try poking with st.LP, going into a short dash cancelled string, backdash, followed by Light Titan's Shield. Cr.HK > Light Titan's Shield is also safe.

    Also, any 4 hit magic string into emperors stance heavy is decent, you can make it safer by tagging afterwards.


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  • DeftMonkDeftMonk Joined: Posts: 6
    edited October 20
    Guiver wrote: »
    Keep in mind that Thanos has a 5f st.LP. and all of his normals (to my knowledge) can be dash cancelled aside from cr.HK, so sometimes you may even want to try poking with st.LP, going into a short dash cancelled string, backdash, followed by Light Titan's Shield. Cr.HK > Light Titan's Shield is also safe.
    I read this and tried to dash cancel out of his normals but I can't...is this some MvC only thing that requires a special input? Please elaborate
  • GuiverGuiver CEO, Guiver Games Joined: Posts: 36
    edited October 26
    Here's how it works, i'll go into the best detail i can. Thanos st.LP and st.HP are both -6 and -11, respectively. While it may not be realistic to call it dash cancelling, Dashing out of these moves on block puts us at -6 or -11, plus the -43 frame startup on back dash, yet it doesn't feel like we just whiffed a doctor strange launcher in UMvC3. St.lk and st.HK can both be cancelled into st.HP, so we'll look at that button to be our go-to for genuine cancels that won't get us opened up. All our jumps come out in 4 frames, so Jump > ADF or Backdash is also a decent option. at -11 on block, st.HP cancelled into Light Titan's Shield leaves us at -31 frames, so I clearly should have given our opponent's ability to respond to this situation better consideration.

    Crouching HK can be a formidable spacer to finish a blockstring, it gives you some room to recover, and can be cancelled into Titan's Deceit.

    But EVERYONE does Titan's Shield > Titan's Deceit.

    It's not that good unless your opponent is caught in startup animations. Don't be predictable with it, it's better to rushdown into your shield and then pull back.

    Mixing up Heavy Titan's Charge into your blockstring + Tags is a decent way to open up your opponent after you've established your block strings. Just try to make sure you are at least a full character's space away from your opponent if ending a blockstring with Light Titan's Charge.


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    Does anyone else think that Thanos makes some of the funniest cries, roars, and grunts ever uttered in fighting game history in MVC:I? I mean, I laugh every time I play with or against him. I especially love his weird pain grunt and his growling noise he makes when wakes up from a knockdown.
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    Does anyone else think that Thanos makes some of the funniest cries, roars, and grunts ever uttered in fighting game history in MVC:I? I mean, I laugh every time I play with or against him. I especially love his weird pain grunt and his growling noise he makes when wakes up from a knockdown.

    Lol yup. Also when he's a partner and talks shit when you are getting your ass beat. Thanos is godlike
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    The Mad Titan hits so hard! Haha. So these are my go-to BnB's with Thanos. The Corner variation I do and showed here DOES use the Palm Breaker move but it's not the typical Palm Breaker Loops we've been seeing/using. This is much easier for me to pull off consistently even tho I do pull off 2 reps of the "Loop" at the end! I'm sure I could crack the 7k barrier with 3 reps of a Loop but like I said I'm happy with this damage that I won't drop. Hopefully these help someone out who may be looking for some more Thanos footage or alternative combos
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