Are gamers full of negativity? Why are there so many complaints in every game?

VestaxVestax Blends No. 27Joined: Posts: 1,501
Every now and then I like to read the community for the game I really like but half of the threads are full of rants and complaints up the ying yang. Even the great games have it. Maybe I'm an old fart but is the newer generation full of hatred or something? Do they feel self entitled or are they really passionate about their hobbies?
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  • chadouken!chadouken! less < more Joined: Posts: 5,159
    Yes.
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Yes, I'm still pissed. Yes, go fuck yourself Darkfaggotasshole.
  • po pimpuspo pimpus Beyond Anger... Ultra Rage Joined: Posts: 26,003
    Nick, you my boi... But I will legit dropkick anyone talking about Infinite DLC while using the words "good" and "game"... Two things of which it is neither.
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  • ShahenzanShahenzan to burn beasts Joined: Posts: 303
    People were always gonna bitch, proliferation of the internet just gave more of them a voice

    Besides that, gaming is a more common hobby these days, so the community went from mostly enthusiasts to mostly casuals

    Said casuals are used to getting a gold star and a juice box for installing the game, so when they play anything that kicks their ass and tells them to git gud they get disgruntled

    also business practices have gotten worse over the years and people (rightly) complain about that
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  • HecatomHecatom Aka Black Gorilla (・Д・)ノ Joined: Posts: 23,733
    edited October 21
    How to Growl? Good question OP
    Harsh growls are a touchstone of black metal, death metal, and other extreme forms of music. If you want to know what it takes to growl like your favorite singer, you can learn the ins and outs of exhaled and inhaled growls, as well as how to sing properly without hurting your voice.

    Method 1
    Exhaled Growls


    1 Breathe from your diaphragm. Sit with your back straight, and just hum with your normal voice and mouth closed. Put your hand on your stomach, just below your ribs, and hum a few times in short bursts. When humming, one automatically uses the diaphragm and abdominal muscles, so you should feel your abdomen goes in, while your chest and shoulders aren't moving. Breathe from that spot when you want to growl.[1]
    • Put your hand on your abdomen and hum with your mouth closed. Gradually increase the volume. Feel how your abs are shrinking towards the inside? This means that your diaphragm is relaxing and pushing air out. That's where the sound should be coming from.

    2 Pinch your throat. Open your jaw and make an "O" shape with your lips. Pull your tongue back to the back of your throat. The tighter you pinch the back of your throat, the higher the pitch of your growl will be. Move your tongue forward slightly and loosen the pinch, and your growl will be a little lower.
    • Try letting a little air out. It should rattle a little at the back of your throat, without really having to make much sound at all. Rattling is a sign that you've got the right shape.

    3 Exhale forcefully, but evenly. Practice breathing deep into your diaphragm and positioning your throat correctly, then try exhaling a few times, evenly but forcefully enough to get a good amount of sound from your throat. You should hear a good, low growl that sounds good for animal impressions and metal songs alike.
    • Draw out the growl for a few seconds and let it trail off. Practice bringing the volume up and down, and changing the pitch slightly. It'll take a little practice.
    • Keep your hand on your stomach to make sure you're breathing as deeply as possible, and pushing the air from deep in your diaphragm.

    4 Practice growling nonsense syllables. To help you channel your throat sounds into something that's like music, it's important to practice forming syllables and changing pitch. The following syllables are all good to practice in your routine, forming them as evenly and smoothly as possible:
    • Yo
    • We
    • Ah
    • Ra

    5 Don't chop the ends off. When you're growling, if you cut off your growl very abruptly, you'll risk losing your voice. The force necessary to stop the sound can wreak havoc on your vocal chords, and you'll end up with a sore throat if you cut off your growls suddenly, instead of letting them trail off.

    6 Practice changing the pitch. For black metal style vocals, you often want to growl with a higher pitch. Keep your tongue down and keep your head tilted up a bit, practicing pinching your throat enough to get the right kind of tone and change in pitch.

    Method 2
    Inhaled Growls


    1 Use inhaled growls for higher pitched songs. Generally speaking, inhaled growling sounds more "piggy" and slightly higher pitched, but it can also sound demonic and devilish, and you can do a whole lot with the technique. Really, it sounds a lot similar, but it's another little trick you can add to your extreme singing arsenal, to make your abilities a little rounder. It's only a minor difference from exhaled growls.

    2 Breathe from your diaphragm. Similar to the exhaled growl, your want to keep your focus on your diaphragm. With all singing, good breath support is important for a good tone. Put your hand on your stomach and feel your diaphragm going in and out as you breathe.
    • To inhale, expand your abdomen and lower back ribs, while not moving the chest and shoulders. Practice breathing from deep in your stomach, not from your throat, to make your growl as deep as possible.

    3 Make the throat pinch and inhale. Make an "O" with your lips, open your jaw, and bring your tongue back in the same way as you did for the exhaled growl. Start inhaling in the same way you exhaled, breathing deeply into your diaphragm.
    • Increase the volume and force gradually to get a sense of how much you need to breathe in to get the kind of sound and pitch you're looking for. Play around with it for a while until it feels comfortable to you.

    5 Start with the syllable "we." The most common inhaled growl seems to be around the "we" syllable, because it feels the most comfortable. This is often used to start songs in the death or black metal genres, allowing you to let loose with a lot of volume. Start practicing around "we" until you get comfortable, then try more syllables as you're working on your growls:
    • Go
    • Ra
    • Die

    6 Practice alternating between exhaling and inhaling. A good metal vocalist can alternate between the two, so you can sing a whole lot at once, as the song calls for. The more seamlessly you can shift back and forth between exhaled and inhaled growls, the more seamless and virtuosic your abilities as a growler.
    • Write out some lyrics and practice singing half in an exhaled growl and half inhaled. Try out some Opeth[4] for practice: (Exhaled) "We enter winter once again" / (Inhaled) "Naked freezing from my breath."

    Method 3
    Growling Vocals


    1 Always warm up your voice first. Growling puts more strain on your throat than possibly any other type of singing. It involves your vocal chords less, but it can give you a sore throat pretty quickly. It's not always necessary to warm up your local chords with fancy exercises, but warming up your throat a little is important. Never start cold.
    • Drink warm tea with honey to help warm up your throat. Avoid drinking things like soda and milk, which can make your throat kind of mucous-coated, making it hard to sing.
    • Don't smoke. Lots of inexperienced singers think a couple cigarettes is the fast-track to a rough voice. It's really the fast-track to addiction and disease. The proper form will work a lot better.

    2 Try growling words. Even though they're hard to make out, eventually, you'll probably want to be growling lyrics instead of random syllables, right? To work on this, pick out some of your favorite metal lyrics and practice phrasing them and forming them in your growled technique.
    • Don't try to make it sound just like the original singer. Everyone's growl is different. If your's is lower or higher, that's not a bad thing. Embrace your unique voice.
    • If you don't want to ape someone else's song, pick a passage from a book you're reading, or some old English poetry that rhymes and might sound cool death metal style. It's just practice.
    • Write your own metal lyrics, if you want to work with something original. Good themes always include death, demons, dragons, snakes, winter, bitterness, and darkness. Go for it.

    3 Keep your body relaxed. Form the voice with your mind, express it with your folds. Don't try to force the vocal folds to do what they shouldn't do. Keep your throat relaxed.
    • Intense growling shouldn't hurt. If it does, revise your technique and make sure you're breathing from your diaphragm.
    • When you start out growling, you use muscles that you never used before at such a strong level. If the muscles around your neck or throat are tired, stop growling until its over and start again.

    4 Practice consistently. This is a lot like lifting weights at the gym. You use your muscles much more intensely than normal and then wait for them to restore before using them at a higher level each time. If you stop growling for a long period of time, your growling skills will decrease.
    • If you pick up on growling after a long break, take it easy, as your stamina will be much worse. Though, you will redevelop much faster than the first time.

    5 Record yourself. This is a really helpful way to find whether or not you're hitting the right volume, pitch and style. It's recommended to record, listen and listen again only after few hours, so your mind will be able to spot even the smallest mistakes.
    • It doesn't need to be fancy, or along with a musical track. Just use your phone and see how it sounds, or open up a GarageBand file or an Audacity file and sing along to a song you like to get a better sense.

    6 Do short sessions. Black metal type of vocals may hurt if pushing too hard or after very long and intense sessions. Practice no more than 10-15 minutes a day in the beginning, it will take time for your vocal chords to adjust to the abuse and eventually you will sound better.
    • If it hurts badly in the beginning though, stop and revise your technique. Maybe you're pushing too much.

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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Beyond Anger... Ultra Rage Joined: Posts: 26,003
    Because some people have the "stop liking things that I don't like" syndrome combined with too much free time and constant internet access.

    It's called taste and having standards...

    If you and your ilk had either, Capcpom would have stopped shitting the bed by now.
    "Capcom should listen to their fans... Mega Man is a cool character." -2048 President Elect Kevin at Age 10
  • DatSpardaUserDatSpardaUser Joined: Posts: 2,553
    d3v wrote: »
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Nick, you my boi... But I will legit dropkick anyone talking about Infinite DLC while using the words "good" and "game"... Two things of which it is neither.

    Game is good tho.

    Some tight ass gameplay for a first iteration game, will become even better with some tuning that will likely come.

    Lol at trying to explain that to him. He's the type that, if there wasn't the DLC issue and he was actually playing the game, would spend all day being a scrub complaining about Dante.

    Shame. Dante is fair tho. Gotta scrub complain about braindead ass Gamora.
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Beyond Anger... Ultra Rage Joined: Posts: 26,003
    edited October 21
    Why don't you go back to your hidey hole where Po can't say mean things about your shit game without getting banned.

    Your shilling has no power here.
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  • HecatomHecatom Aka Black Gorilla (・Д・)ノ Joined: Posts: 23,733
    I love how some idiots here are making stupid generalizations, almost like if they drink with gusto the coolaid about gamers here gamers that. :rofl:
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    ( •_•)>⌐■-■
    IT'S SURPRISE SEX! (⌐■_■)
    YEAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!
    "Orgasm is a simile for the emotional epiphany a woman has when the shame of penetration is eclipsed by the inherent virtue of servicing a man." ~ Kromo.
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    ( ಥ_ಥ)
  • WellmanWellman Joined: Posts: 3,997
    Two reasons.

    Sometimes folk are negative to either stand out from the crowd or to join it.

    Sometimes folk are negative because the game industry or big business in general at its core is negative.

    The big suits want money so they make plans to screw the consumers and the developers to save or make money.

    A portion of potential consumers have no qualms about screwing developers in terms of buying the product below fair market value or straight up stealing it.

    Developers will screw the consumer and big suits by not delivering the product they were supposed to. Whether through their own inability or half ass work while their real focus is on another project.

    Plenty of reasons for negativity. Also #TheInternet.
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  • GasarakiGasaraki Joined: Posts: 8,811 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    locoghoul wrote: »
    Is not "gamers" is just the current culture. Back in the day you'd study harder if you got a C- in school. Now you just bitch at the teacher for making a hard exam and demand for make up exams and shit like that.

    Videogames are just a reflection of what people want nowadays. Most of the time you get repetitive gameplay with eye candy graphics. Add in DLC and a sequel every year and that's 85% of the games released

    I would argue that that's any generation, just with different nouns.
  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,885
    "Are gamers full of negativity?"

    Yes.
    It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
  • FengShuiEnergyFengShuiEnergy Serving my robot overlords <3 Joined: Posts: 12,131
    edited October 21
    Full of negativity? Mmmmmmmmmmm...potentially. I think it boils down to nostalgia, entitlement and just overall greediness. Then factor in some companies being worse then others. I feel it's the opposite these days. Bad games (whether deemd by the playerbase or otherwise) are a dime a dozen whereas good games are hard to come by...depending on player of course. Unless it's cod.......then it's just bad everytime all the time.
  • AlegrettoAlegretto The King of Breakfast. Joined: Posts: 414
    Vestax wrote: »
    Every now and then I like to read the community for the game I really like but half of the threads are full of rants and complaints up the ying yang. Even the great games have it. Maybe I'm an old fart but is the newer generation full of hatred or something? Do they feel self entitled or are they really passionate about their hobbies?

    It's not a "gamer" thing, people are just more able to voice their opinions and preferences nowadays, and once you find a group of like-minded people your opinions on anything will move towards the extreme of that thing, even if you started out really tame.

    That's it. That's the secret. People are wired to form groups, and groups are wired to remove dissent. With those two factors at play, groups will move to the extremes by themselves. Soon, "this game is good but i liked the previous game better" becomes "this game sucks balls, this company has gone to shit", and there you have your complaints.
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  • locoghoullocoghoul Fuck Chun Joined: Posts: 4,049
    Gasaraki wrote: »
    locoghoul wrote: »
    Is not "gamers" is just the current culture. Back in the day you'd study harder if you got a C- in school. Now you just bitch at the teacher for making a hard exam and demand for make up exams and shit like that.

    Videogames are just a reflection of what people want nowadays. Most of the time you get repetitive gameplay with eye candy graphics. Add in DLC and a sequel every year and that's 85% of the games released

    I would argue that that's any generation, just with different nouns.

    ... bro videogames have only been around for like 30 years. If you count where home videogaming started then you can't really speak about "any generation" but perhaps a handful of them.

    unpopular opinion but think, then post
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  • GasarakiGasaraki Joined: Posts: 8,811 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited October 21
    locoghoul wrote: »
    Gasaraki wrote: »
    locoghoul wrote: »
    Is not "gamers" is just the current culture. Back in the day you'd study harder if you got a C- in school. Now you just bitch at the teacher for making a hard exam and demand for make up exams and shit like that.

    Videogames are just a reflection of what people want nowadays. Most of the time you get repetitive gameplay with eye candy graphics. Add in DLC and a sequel every year and that's 85% of the games released

    I would argue that that's any generation, just with different nouns.

    ... bro videogames have only been around for like 30 years. If you count where home videogaming started then you can't really speak about "any generation" but perhaps a handful of them.

    unpopular opinion but think, then post

    Uh, as I said, with different nouns. Even if you aren't talking about video games but music or whatever else. There is no back in the day. Back in the day older people complained about younger generations and things getting easier or whatever else too. That has been around for ages now.
  • locoghoullocoghoul Fuck Chun Joined: Posts: 4,049
    Raz0r wrote: »
    locoghoul wrote: »
    Gasaraki wrote: »
    locoghoul wrote: »
    Is not "gamers" is just the current culture. Back in the day you'd study harder if you got a C- in school. Now you just bitch at the teacher for making a hard exam and demand for make up exams and shit like that.

    Videogames are just a reflection of what people want nowadays. Most of the time you get repetitive gameplay with eye candy graphics. Add in DLC and a sequel every year and that's 85% of the games released

    I would argue that that's any generation, just with different nouns.

    unpopular opinion but think, then post

    So unpopular even you don't follow your own advice.

    i would had tagged you but that would imply you know how to read
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  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 25,989 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Good comeback.
    This is offensive.
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    Boredom and lack of exercise
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